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  1. #451
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    Quote Originally Posted by GABS View Post
    Bet you are a bundle of laughs post match in the pub
    ...........that's because he's forgotten where he has parked his car.............

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    Quote Originally Posted by GP200 View Post
    ...........that's because he's forgotten where he has parked his car.............
    Bullying at its best.

    I found the ground yesterday though, which I was very proud of, just need to remember where it is for Tuesday now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sheerwater Bee View Post
    There's was probably arounf 8.5K there today for our first home game of the season, with around 1400 away supporters. Not sure if we sold out any home game totally last season. People need to get real about whether it's the end of the world if we have a 17.K stadium or 20k. Just means the away supporters will have a smaller allocation and we might just sell it out on the odd occasion.
    Nail on the head for me mate. We will fill 17.5K on some occasions at LR, the obvious being Fulham, Rangers etc. But there will be a lot of games sub that figure in The Championship.

    No doubt the ability to purchase tickets with less restrictions will increase numbers as will the attraction of a shiny new stadium. But until we consistently sell out 17.5K in the Championship I'm not going to lose sleep over 17.5 or 20K.

    My only hope is we still have a stadium with some uniqueness and don't end up with a Colchester. I hope that the shape of the site at LR dictates that uniqueness.

    Ultimately anything has to be an upgrade on GP.

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  6. #454
    Quote Originally Posted by Doovster View Post
    Nail on the head for me mate. We will fill 17.5K on some occasions at LR, the obvious being Fulham, Rangers etc. But there will be a lot of games sub that figure in The Championship.

    No doubt the ability to purchase tickets with less restrictions will increase numbers as will the attraction of a shiny new stadium. But until we consistently sell out 17.5K in the Championship I'm not going to lose sleep over 17.5 or 20K.

    My only hope is we still have a stadium with some uniqueness and don't end up with a Colchester. I hope that the shape of the site at LR dictates that uniqueness.

    Ultimately anything has to be an upgrade on GP.
    Pretty much my take on it.

    It would be nice to have an option to expand to over 20k if needed.

    I know it was with the previous scheme, over the railway which would be expensive, but with premiership monies affordable.

    We still could be a few years away from the premiership yet.

    Most importantly they just need to get on with it and build the f@@king stadium asap.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doovster View Post
    Nail on the head for me mate. We will fill 17.5K on some occasions at LR, the obvious being Fulham, Rangers etc. But there will be a lot of games sub that figure in The Championship.

    No doubt the ability to purchase tickets with less restrictions will increase numbers as will the attraction of a shiny new stadium. But until we consistently sell out 17.5K in the Championship I'm not going to lose sleep over 17.5 or 20K.

    My only hope is we still have a stadium with some uniqueness and don't end up with a Colchester. I hope that the shape of the site at LR dictates that uniqueness.

    Ultimately anything has to be an upgrade on GP.
    My feelings exactly.

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    As it's all a bit pointless, can we stop all this niggling over new stadium capacities and design - there's nothing any of us an do about it.

    But can I keep the thread going by repeating that what is important, in my opinion, is the fact that the club gave secret information to a select few - leaving out the mass of other supporters (including, I should imagine, the majority of the hard core of 5,000 or so who followed the club back in the days of Division 4). That is unforgiveable.

    If it was a leak by an employee - MB should find him ands fire him (or her).

    If it was a deliberate policy by the club, then it is downright insulting to the majority of fans and is to be deplored.

    I'm sorry to repeat that, but it is something about which I feel quite strongly so I have no compunction about saying it again - despite the criticism when I first made the statement.

    In that respect, incidentally, I note that GeeBee has not yet come up with the back-up to his statement about my feelings towards Woking. Can I suggest - put up or shut up. In my opinion, his claim was false - in which case he should apologise and stop making malicious and libellous claims. Or doesn't he have the guts?

    *oh yes, as a little extra. I believe I have a card somewhere telling me that my long-standing membership of BFC has been renewed for this season (or am I mistaken?). If so, don't members fall into the special fans' category that must to be informed and sworn to secrecy on delicate club matters?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rebus View Post
    Couldn't agree more. We have got used to Griffin Park. Quite frankly it's a dump. Yes, our dump and we love it, but a dump none the less.

    New stadiums see a 50 per cent uplift in home support. I don't see any difference in that stats for us moving, plus we can give more tickets to away fans.
    Sad but true, we need to leave GP to continue to grow and match the owners ambition.

  11. #458
    Quote Originally Posted by larrysigny View Post
    As it's all a bit pointless, can we stop all this niggling over new stadium capacities and design - there's nothing any of us an do about it.

    But can I keep the thread going by repeating that what is important, in my opinion, is the fact that the club gave secret information to a select few - leaving out the mass of other supporters (including, I should imagine, the majority of the hard core of 5,000 or so who followed the club back in the days of Division 4). That is unforgiveable.

    If it was a leak by an employee - MB should find him ands fire him (or her).

    If it was a deliberate policy by the club, then it is downright insulting to the majority of fans and is to be deplored.

    I'm sorry to repeat that, but it is something about which I feel quite strongly so I have no compunction about saying it again - despite the criticism when I first made the statement.

    In that respect, incidentally, I note that GeeBee has not yet come up with the back-up to his statement about my feelings towards Woking. Can I suggest - put up or shut up. In my opinion, his claim was false - in which case he should apologise and stop making malicious and libellous claims. Or doesn't he have the guts?

    *oh yes, as a little extra. I believe I have a card somewhere telling me that my long-standing membership of BFC has been renewed for this season (or am I mistaken?). If so, don't members fall into the special fans' category that must to be informed and sworn to secrecy on delicate club matters?
    For me and quite a few others the thing that's annoyed us is what you say in your second paragraph.

    If it's not Matthew Benham job to sort out the mess, which I don't think it is, we have others close to the club who should.Then it falls squarely on the desk of Mark Devlin( Mr Teflon) and Cliff Crown should tell him.

  12. #459
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    Quote Originally Posted by larrysigny View Post
    But can I keep the thread going by repeating that what is important, in my opinion, is the fact that the club gave secret information to a select few - leaving out the mass of other supporters (including, I should imagine, the majority of the hard core of 5,000 or so who followed the club back in the days of Division 4). That is unforgiveable.

    If it was a leak by an employee - MB should find him ands fire him (or her).

    If it was a deliberate policy by the club, then it is downright insulting to the majority of fans and is to be deplored.
    I'm sorry Larry but i have to disagree. The club have regular meetings with fans group including BIAS during which there is two way dialog.

    As a former chairperon of BIAS i know first hand just how much time and effort the Stadium Action Group put into securing the original planning application. Quite a few volunteers giving up to 25 hours a week to attend public meetings, to set up stalls at Fetes, to lobby and generate the vital support for the scheme.

    Im no longer involved with BIAS but imagine that the organisation is still attending the Lionel Road liaison Group meetings.

    There have been rumours about the new stadium for a few months. It is a small world and organisations outside of the club would have been involved as the club weighed up the options.

    It appears to me that the club finalised their decision and drew up a communication plan.

    There had to be an embargo of some sort. Its a bit like a daughter getting married and the Aunts and Grandparents being told first before a public announcement was made on Facebook.

    There will need to be a public meeting for the residents... London Irish will need to be told... The supporters trust will have to be informed etc... All of which takes time.

    We now know that change is coming... that changes are to be revealed and we will all be told on Tuesday when we can read first hand what the clubs plans are.

    This is a matter for the club to tell us about... and the club have ensured that they do so by bringing in those who could break the news on their websites so that the club has that honour.

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  14. #460
    Quote Originally Posted by westy View Post
    Pretty much my take on it.

    It would be nice to have an option to expand to over 20k if needed.

    I know it was with the previous scheme, over the railway which would be expensive, but with premiership monies affordable.

    We still could be a few years away from the premiership yet.

    Most importantly they just need to get on with it and build the f@@king stadium asap.
    judging by the first 3 games i'd say you are right!

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    Is it a shortage of money or just space which necessitates the reduction in the capacity if indeed that is what we are to be told on Tuesday.

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    Sorry Ayes B, but as a former member of BIAS, BU, Lifeline (and possibly even as a member of BFC) I have never (repeat never) had any communications on matters of this sort. These days, for personal reasons I am not able to get to Griffin Park, so I can't hear any of the 'news' gossip first hand, even though it may be common knowledge.

    Like many others, I am remote and being kept in ignorance of what is happening. It seems that only a specialised few are allowed in on the club's secrets - I mean, why one fan's website and not the GPG?

    If the club wishes something to be known, it should make a statement - to all. That's the correct way of doing things - not leaking it out in dribs and drabs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave Bond View Post
    Is it a shortage of money or just space which necessitates the reduction in the capacity if indeed that is what we are to be told on Tuesday.
    I would be stunned if the original stadium design which was worked up in significant detail by a very capable professional team was found not to fit on the site having secured planning permission. That's not to say that it must be a lack of funds either but it certainly won't be due to the original design being unbuildable.

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  20. Quote Originally Posted by spirebee View Post
    How do we get 25,000+ at Wembley every few years?...from under the mattress?
    How did Fulham go from 3K to 25K, Reading from 7k to 25k, Brighton from 8k to 30K?
    You seem to be into your history. It's recorded how quickly we filled the new GP back in the 20's and 30's and were soon worried that 40K wasn't big enough. How much has the catchment area grown since then?
    Build it and they will come.
    QPR, Fulham etc come along too i know quite a few that have been to bees Wembley appearances

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    I am prepared for very very bad news on Tuesday and so just bad news is going to be a bonus.

    What I will say is that if the news is terrible, I don't believe that BIAS and BU can be criticised but not MB and BFC.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ace Face View Post
    I am prepared for very very bad news on Tuesday and so just bad news is going to be a bonus.

    What I will say is that if the news is terrible, I don't believe that BIAS and BU can be criticised but not MB and BFC.
    Maybe you can't criticise Bias or BU, but it makes you wonder what purpose they are serving?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ace Face View Post
    I am prepared for very very bad news on Tuesday and so just bad news is going to be a bonus.

    What I will say is that if the news is terrible, I don't believe that BIAS and BU can be criticised but not MB and BFC.
    What do you class as bad news?
    dream as if you will live for ever, live as if you will die today

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    Quote Originally Posted by BFC1997 View Post
    Maybe you can't criticise Bias or BU, but it makes you wonder what purpose they are serving?
    I did not say that BIAS and BU can and should be criticised but so should MB and BFC.

    Anyway let's all hope it is just a reduction to 17,500.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ace Face View Post
    I did not say that BIAS and BU can and should be criticised but so should MB and BFC.

    Anyway let's all hope it is just a reduction to 17,500.
    It's not though is it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Isleworth_Bee View Post
    What do you class as bad news?
    3 x single level stands, or even worse, 4 !!

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    Quote Originally Posted by westwing View Post
    3 x single level stands, or even worse, 4 !!
    The current design has 3 x single level stands

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    Quote Originally Posted by Banana View Post
    The current design has 3 x single level stands
    I was under the impression that the stands behind the goals were two tiers the same as Westwing.

    I know you may have signed a NDA, but are you able to give an update on a fans forum being mooted, for fans to question directly BFC?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ace Face View Post
    I was under the impression that the stands behind the goals were two tiers the same as Westwing.

    I know you may have signed a NDA, but are you able to give an update on a fans forum being mooted, for fans to question directly BFC?
    Oh Maybe, I can't remember TBH.

    I've signed nothing you silly billy.

    There's a tentative date of before the Wolves match.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Banana View Post
    Oh Maybe, I can't remember TBH.

    I've signed nothing you silly billy.

    There's a tentative date of before the Wolves match.
    If you haven't signed anything why can't you tell us how bad or how very bad the redesign is, what can BFC do? Not invite you to a similar briefing in 125 years.

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    Won't we find out on Tuesday?

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