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We need this break badly. A lot of tired bodies both mentally and physically. We will have Pontus and hopefully Christian back in two weeks time.

So, Colin’s sides are always brick walls. God awful football. Can’t remember many thrillers against him over the decades.

The false nature of the competition this season is showing. I’m sure there are players in our squad that thrive off a crowd but they are getting no appreciation or confidence boost. Who doesn’t get that after a round of applause? It’s nowhere to be seen since March.

Perhaps my bar is low but moving into a new stadium in the middle of a pandemic is enough to be getting on with; I’m just glad of a mid-table place this season and anything else is just a bonus.
Good post. I'm heartily sick of many posts over these last few days. No account given to lack of crowds, virtually no pre-season, a ridiculous schedule of games. It's as though people think the players are machines that you switch on and can toss out if the mechanism goes wrong. Plus of course, this is after 3 DRAWS, not crushing defeats. So far, I'm pretty much hating this season and not just because it's an entirely alien concept but I'm sorry to say, some of our fans piss me of no end. I had someone PMing tonight whining about something or other - apparently he thought I might give a sh*t. I don't. I do some stuff on a website, I'm not a ****ing agony aunt.
 

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I think we are hampered by TF concerned about defending our goal then being a threat to the other one. We drop too deep and our press isnt as high.

This is allowing teams to come onto us.
I agree to some extent. If we had Norgaard I understand playing him because of his passing ability, but I don’t think Janelt was needed today for his defensive contribution.

Gets a lot of stick, but I think Marcondes would have been good addition today
 

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We need this break badly. A lot of tired bodies both mentally and physically. We will have Pontus and hopefully Christian back in two weeks time.

So, Colin’s sides are always brick walls. God awful football. Can’t remember many thrillers against him over the decades.

The false nature of the competition this season is showing. I’m sure there are players in our squad that thrive off a crowd but they are getting no appreciation or confidence boost. Who doesn’t get that after a round of applause? It’s nowhere to be seen since March.

Perhaps my bar is low but moving into a new stadium in the middle of a pandemic is enough to be getting on with; I’m just glad of a mid-table place this season and anything else is just a bonus.
Look forward to your bonus which will come at the end of the season.
 

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Thought Mads was great, Janelt another steady game, (he was having to stretch to get to the ball for his missed chance),
wingers and Ghoddos really poor, I wouldn't be at all surprised if we don't exercise the option on Ghoddos.
I think the option is to do with his confrontation with FIFA rather than his playing ability. Anyway we need to give the lad time to adjust, and to get fit. He is in a new country, a new club, and a new style of football, plus he has hardly played during the past 12 months. Injury, suspension, and Covid will have taken their toll. We gave Dasilva a full 12 months and look how he turned out.
 

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Good post. I'm heartily sick of many posts over these last few days. No account given to lack of crowds, virtually no pre-season, a ridiculous schedule of games. It's as though people think the players are machines that you switch on and can toss out if the mechanism goes wrong. Plus of course, this is after 3 DRAWS, not crushing defeats. So far, I'm pretty much hating this season and not just because it's an entirely alien concept but I'm sorry to say, some of our fans piss me of no end. I had someone PMing tonight whining about something or other - apparently he thought I might give a sh*t. I don't. I do some stuff on a website, I'm not a ****ing agony aunt.
...i reckon a gender change back to Sheridan will sort this problem out...bet you didnt get the same grief back then:judge:
 

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I think the option is to do with his confrontation with FIFA rather than his playing ability. Anyway we need to give the lad time to adjust, and to get fit. He is in a new country, a new club, and a new style of football, plus he has hardly played during the past 12 months. Injury, suspension, and Covid will have taken their toll. We gave Dasilva a full 12 months and look how he turned out.
Seem to remember you were always telling us how good Josh Mac was, BTW where is he now haven't heard of him being some great success.
 

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So, Colin’s sides are always brick walls. God awful football. Can’t remember many thrillers against him over the decades.
We haven’t beaten one of his sides since 1998 (or so today’s commentators said).
 

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Seem to remember you were always telling us how good Josh Mac was, BTW where is he now haven't heard of him being some great success.
You have got me mixed up I do not ever remember posting about JM good or bad. To be honest I felt he never fitted in but even so I have no doubt I would have given him time to settle in before slagging him off.
 

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A few thoughts:

Raya, Pinnock, Sorenson, Henry, Dalsgaard, Da Silva, Toney. That's 7 players playing anywhere near their potential.

Regardless of who we try in the other spots, Jensen, Marcondes, Canos, Ghoddos, Goode and Janelt are all underperforming via inconsistency.

Jensen is incredibly frustrating as he has bags of ability, but to my mind, he is very weak mentally. He fades, hides even in games as is just not demanding enough of himself I feel. Some people have drive and some don't. I think Da Silva is a player who suffers naturally from a lack of drive, but is pushing hard to improve this aspect and use his ability and strength to influence games. At least he is pushing his own weakness, but Jensen is not.

Canos is appearing alarmingly naiive in possession. Poor decision making is reducing his effect on games. His exuberance is not enough on its own in the Championship. He needs to have a think about his performance first 10 games and resist flicks and nutmegs in preference to making effective use of possession.

Marcondes too. Talent but a lack of application in games.

Its not that they are not trying, its more a lack of drive in their own contribution.

Dalsgaard has a terrible record as captain in terms of wins I believe. I'm not sure who was talking today, who was driving for the win. Da Silva had his moments where he just drives right at them, but for me, I'd like to see this 4 out of five times, not 1 out of 5 times from him. He has the ability to take this division by the scruff of the neck like no other midfielder in the league, but we need 80 effective minutes from him, not just 30-40.

Lots to do for Thomas. I'd like to see 442 until Norgaard is back at home for sure. Forss can help Toney, as at the moment he is starved of service.

The wide players are the big issue, as all are way off their best right now.

Off the Pitch: There's a danger fans and club are losing touch. We need iFollow commentary to be uplifting, and it really wasn't today. I don't want them to sugarcoat bad performances or be sycophantic to their paymasters at the club, but I do expect presenters to be positive in their tone. Mark sounded depressed today, and might also need a break. Clearly, football without fans is annoying him, but It can't dominate his performance as his descriptions of the atmosphere and game are all we've got right now. I found him a hard listen today I must be honest.

I'd like Thomas to vary his post-match comments a little too. We need to know he sees the dropped standards and is aware and is pushing. For me, Fosu has to have a run of games now, else when will Frank play him? If its not now, when all our wingers are not delivering, when will it be? Else, he's an unused signing and I would have preferred another right back as Dalsgaard has played almost every game for 3 seasons now, plus the World Cup. I feel Dalsgaard is increasingly being caught high up the pitch as he's trying so hard to assist on the wing.

Not my favourite game today, that's for sure.
I agree with a lot of what you have said. However I feel the commentators today said it as they saw it. It was a drab, unexciting game. To be fare i Feel the standard of play throughout this season has been far worse than last. I watched our winning goal against Middlesbrough from last season it was an assured fast flowing move out from the back with intelligent quick passing, ending in a clinical Ollie Watkins goal. I have not seen any of our performances come close to that move.

So for me it was a breath of fresh air to hear the commentary reflect the game how it was and not put a spin on it. If we can’t be honest in the analysis of our performances then as far as I’m concerned we can’t improve. Football is about entertaining people and that Is why I have really enjoyed following this team over the past few years, unfortunately in that regard we seem to have lost our way. So for me it’s not the commentary that is the problem, it’s the standard of play.
 

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I agree with a lot of what you have said. However I feel the commentators today said it as they saw it. It was a drab, unexciting game. To be fare i Feel the standard of play throughout this season has been far worse than last. I watched our winning goal against Middlesbrough from last season it was an assured fast flowing move out from the back with intelligent quick passing, ending in a clinical Ollie Watkins goal. I have not seen any of our performances come close to that move.

So for me it was a breath of fresh air to hear the commentary reflect the game how it was and not put a spin on it. If we can’t be honest in the analysis of our performances then as far as I’m concerned we can’t improve. Football is about entertaining people and that Is why I have really enjoyed following this team over the past few years, unfortunately in that regard we seem to have lost our way. So for me it’s not the commentary that is the problem, it’s the standard of play.
Spot on. If we tried and failed playing attractive football like last season then I think I could stomach it, but we’ve been properly spoilt the last few years and I feel we just look like everyone else this year.
 

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I hope the players and coaches are given a few days off. Heavy legs and minds.
We have a lot of players out there that have played a lot of football in the space of a very short time and need a rest, but unfortunately these same players are going to be away with their countries on international duty so won’t be getting the rest needed.
 

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A write-off in terms of memorable games.

There’s always 1 or 2 of these each season - usually a nondescript cold day, where’d you’d be a bit peeved having travelled for that, so you order a curry when you get home to give the day some excitement.
 
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It is simply a perfect storm of far too many games in a short period of time linked to no atmosphere and rabid crowd support, too short a preseason leading to too many injuries plus a natural feeling of let down after what happened last season.

Of course we are suffering a general malaise and hangover but the next two weeks will give us a bit of breathing space.

Remember, every other team is also hurting too. We are chugging along and not properly firing but still in contention.

I think we have to manage and lower our expectations this season and accept that the free flowing football of the recent past might be seen far less often but the fight is still there and I do expect us to mount a challenge when players return to fitness and there is some strengthening in January.
 

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People can make all the excuses they want but, the fact of the matter is
we don't learn how to play against teams that stop us playing our way.
More and more teams are working us out I feel our performances will
continue to fluctuate until the lesson is learned.
 

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A write-off in terms of memorable games.

There’s always 1 or 2 of these each season - usually a nondescript cold day, where’d you’d be a bit peeved having travelled for that, so you order a curry when you get home to give the day some excitement.
Usually against a Warnock style side.
 

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Tiredness.......Injuries.......No Supporters.......To many matches being played in quick succession. These are all having a major impact for all Teams on the Quality/Product on offer this Season.
For our own playing style, last season Benrahma/Henry produced a major threat on our left hand side. As far as I can see our options to get this avenue up and running again are limited until the transfer Window reopens. We could though bring Thompson in and move Henry up to the left sided attacking role.
I am waiting to be shot down in flames about this but somehow the team needs to move the ball quicker and find a way to create more chances.
 

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It is simply a perfect storm of far too many games in a short period of time linked to no atmosphere and rabid crowd support, too short a preseason leading to too many injuries plus a natural feeling of let down after what happened last season.

Of course we are suffering a general malaise and hangover but the next two weeks will give us a bit of breathing space.

Remember, every other team is also hurting too. We are chugging along and not properly firing but still in contention.

I think we have to manage and lower our expectations this season and accept that the free flowing football of the recent past might be seen far less often but the fight is still there and I do expect us to mount a challenge when players return to fitness and there is some strengthening in January.
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Sensible post. With the ridiculous fixture schedule of this season plenty of games Inthis league will be non events. Coupled with short pre season and not a huge squad, we are seeing the inevitable. I think we will be there or thereabouts come the end of the season, but it could be a grind.
 

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You have got me mixed up I do not ever remember posting about JM good or bad. To be honest I felt he never fitted in but even so I have no doubt I would have given him time to settle in before slagging him off.
You quoted Josh Da Silva as an example, he was a player who had only played academy football and was 19, you are comparing him to a 27 year old
who was brought in as a replacement for SB at a fairly high price, I hope we don,t have to wait a year for him to produce.
 

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Usually against a Warnock style side.
I don't think any other Championship side plays like a team set up by Colin. If we could get something out of a game where every player except the centre backs is man-marked, then we could score against anyone but that set-up just throws a blanket over the opposition – play for 0-0 and hope for a chance, in their case a free kick as Coulson crumples to the ground, to snatch something. Our full backs were jumped on if they approached the half-way line, Jensen was followed everywhere by a faithful puppy, a back four with Howson one foot in front, so a five, it was like a horror movie. The only thing that seemed to disrupt them was a centre-back bringing the ball out. Maybe next time we should play Nørgaard as one of the centre backs...
 

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Good post. I'm heartily sick of many posts over these last few days. No account given to lack of crowds, virtually no pre-season, a ridiculous schedule of games. It's as though people think the players are machines that you switch on and can toss out if the mechanism goes wrong. Plus of course, this is after 3 DRAWS, not crushing defeats. So far, I'm pretty much hating this season and not just because it's an entirely alien concept but I'm sorry to say, some of our fans piss me of no end. I had someone PMing tonight whining about something or other - apparently he thought I might give a sh*t. I don't. I do some stuff on a website, I'm not a ****ing agony aunt.
Spot on Les. People are expecting way too much. Our young squad is shot to bits. They gave it their all at the end of last season. I bet they are still ******d from that.
 

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I don't think any other Championship side plays like a team set up by Colin. If we could get something out of a game where every player except the centre backs is man-marked, then we could score against anyone but that set-up just throws a blanket over the opposition – play for 0-0 and hope for a chance, in their case a free kick as Coulson crumples to the ground, to snatch something. Our full backs were jumped on if they approached the half-way line, Jensen was followed everywhere by a faithful puppy, a back four with Howson one foot in front, so a five, it was like a horror movie. The only thing that seemed to disrupt them was a centre-back bringing the ball out. Maybe next time we should play Nørgaard as one of the centre backs...
And this is the fact of the match. You could see our midfield were man marked out of the game. Not pretty but Boro were well drilled in this. JDS and MJ had a player following them everywhere. And then the wide players were rapidly closed down as soon as it went wide.

Colin did it at Cardiff, stifle the oppo, hope for one goal from a set play then sit back for the remainder.

Its so effective at this level, but he gets found out everytime in the league above.

Meh, point gained move on.
 

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How can Colin spend his whole football career churning out sshit like he does . Effective , yep ,stopping team playing cos he cant make his sides attacking and entertaining . I hope he's pleased with what he's achieved in his 1500 games in charge .Dinosaur needs shooting .One dimensional
 

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How can Colin spend his whole football career churning out sshit like he does . Effective , yep ,stopping team playing cos he cant make his sides attacking and entertaining . I hope he's pleased with what he's achieved in his 1500 games in charge .Dinosaur needs shooting .One dimensional
It's comparative. He goes to a club that's a train-wreck, stabilises it and get them winning points by not losing. Many fans like that but it really needs him to move on and get a more expansive coaching team in to move that club on from there. The best clubs have made a good judgement on that moment.
 

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A write-off in terms of memorable games.

There’s always 1 or 2 of these each season - usually a nondescript cold day, where’d you’d be a bit peeved having travelled for that, so you order a curry when you get home to give the day some excitement.
Agree with that. Our game relies on pace & movement which is hard to maintain at a rate ofl
Good post. I'm heartily sick of many posts over these last few days. No account given to lack of crowds, virtually no pre-season, a ridiculous schedule of games. It's as though people think the players are machines that you switch on and can toss out if the mechanism goes wrong. Plus of course, this is after 3 DRAWS, not crushing defeats. So far, I'm pretty much hating this season and not just because it's an entirely alien concept but I'm sorry to say, some of our fans piss me of no end. I had someone PMing tonight whining about something or other - apparently he thought I might give a sh*t. I don't. I do some stuff on a website, I'm not a ****ing agony aunt.
 

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You quoted Josh Da Silva as an example, he was a player who had only played academy football and was 19, you are comparing him to a 27 year old
who was brought in as a replacement for SB at a fairly high price, I hope we don,t have to wait a year for him to produce.
OK if it makes you feel better give him plenty of stick. Don't concern yourself with the fact hat he has hardly played in the past 12 months. The fact that we paid a couple of million for him means that because he did not turn up fully tuned for instant success means we should all slag him off, and get him out of the club. I am out, you carry on supporting the club.
 

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How can Colin spend his whole football career churning out sshit like he does . Effective , yep ,stopping team playing cos he cant make his sides attacking and entertaining . I hope he's pleased with what he's achieved in his 1500 games in charge .Dinosaur needs shooting .One dimensional
He’s won eight promotions in his career, including getting his teams promoted to the top flight on four occasions, most recently 2 years ago when he was 69.

That’s something to be pleased with.
 

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Good post. I'm heartily sick of many posts over these last few days. No account given to lack of crowds, virtually no pre-season, a ridiculous schedule of games. It's as though people think the players are machines that you switch on and can toss out if the mechanism goes wrong. Plus of course, this is after 3 DRAWS, not crushing defeats. So far, I'm pretty much hating this season and not just because it's an entirely alien concept but I'm sorry to say, some of our fans piss me of no end. I had someone PMing tonight whining about something or other - apparently he thought I might give a sh*t. I don't. I do some stuff on a website, I'm not a ****ing agony aunt.
A very sensible post and with a clear head would have to agree to a certain extent. A lot said the championship would be a poorer standard this season and it's there for any half decent team to make a push. To be honest my view from day one was with a lack of crowds, financial cutbacks, the ridiculous schedule of games this would for once see the three teams who came down open up a gap and compete amongst themselves for the top 2.

As we head towards mid November looking at the table the three clubs are starting to show their strength in depth and I predict by Christmas those three will be out of reach.

Our aim like 7 or 8 others is to get ourselves into one of the play off positions and try to beat one of the relegated sides in those play offs at the end of the season - so far we're competing for those places and won't be too far away. Top 2 will be impossible this season and fans should be realistic about that.
 

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OK if it makes you feel better give him plenty of stick. Don't concern yourself with the fact hat he has hardly played in the past 12 months. The fact that we paid a couple of million for him means that because he did not turn up fully tuned for instant success means we should all slag him off, and get him out of the club. I am out, you carry on supporting the club.
Just where did I SLAG HIM OFF, or suggest getting him out of the club, if he has hardly played in the last twelve months then perhaps he should not be
playing until he gets nearer fitness. we cannot afford to have players who are unfit playing for months if we want to compete.
 

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We need this break badly. A lot of tired bodies both mentally and physically. We will have Pontus and hopefully Christian back in two weeks time.

So, Colin’s sides are always brick walls. God awful football. Can’t remember many thrillers against him over the decades.

The false nature of the competition this season is showing. I’m sure there are players in our squad that thrive off a crowd but they are getting no appreciation or confidence boost. Who doesn’t get that after a round of applause? It’s nowhere to be seen since March.

Perhaps my bar is low but moving into a new stadium in the middle of a pandemic is enough to be getting on with; I’m just glad of a mid-table place this season and anything else is just a bonus.

Can't disagree with you on this one.

It is a game we wouldn't have won last season and thank god they never scored a free header from a set piece.

I am not giving up on this season but I don't want us to go up in an empty stadium. I still want to watch all the games but this empty stadium stuff is just crap, the sooner they can get some of us back in the better.
 

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Janelt another steady game, (he was having to stretch to get to the ball for his missed chance),
He will be having nightmares about that miss, just had to make contact not try to break the net, that doesn't mean the other 99% of his game wasn't quality though.


Ghoddos really poor, I wouldn't be at all surprised if we don't exercise the option on Ghoddos.
He is our player for three years in exactly the same way Benrhama is West Ham's, there are no "options". He is a quality player who hasn't played for over a year, he has just moved to a new country and is learning about a new kind of football in an empty stadium, please don't go writing players off after a few sub appearances. Haven't you learned anything from Sawyers, Maupay, Watkins, Jota, Benrhama, Gray, Pinnock, Hogan, Jenson, JDS, Mads, etc etc, not many walk in and make an instant impact.

Half of those players wouldn't have played for us again after their first 5-6 games if people like you were picking the team. :fishing:
 

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I don't think any other Championship side plays like a team set up by Colin. If we could get something out of a game where every player except the centre backs is man-marked, then we could score against anyone but that set-up just throws a blanket over the opposition – play for 0-0 and hope for a chance, in their case a free kick as Coulson crumples to the ground, to snatch something. Our full backs were jumped on if they approached the half-way line, Jensen was followed everywhere by a faithful puppy, a back four with Howson one foot in front, so a five, it was like a horror movie. The only thing that seemed to disrupt them was a centre-back bringing the ball out. Maybe next time we should play Nørgaard as one of the centre backs...
Tried playing Norgaard as a CB at Luton last season if i remember correctly and it didnt go well.
 

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He will be having nightmares about that miss, just had to make contact not try to break the net, that doesn't mean the other 99% of his game wasn't quality though.




He is our player for three years in exactly the same way Benrhama is West Ham's, there are no "options". He is a quality player who hasn't played for over a year, he has just moved to a new country and is learning about a new kind of football in an empty stadium, please don't go writing players off after a few sub appearances. Haven't you learned anything from Sawyers, Maupay, Watkins, Jota, Benrhama, Gray, Pinnock, Hogan, Jenson, JDS, Mads, etc etc, not many walk in and make an instant impact.

Half of those players wouldn't have played for us again after their first 5-6 games if people like you were picking the team. :fishing:
It is just an opinion, and I cant recall criticising any of the above, perhaps Mads when he was carrying more weight. also most of those players were
younger and likely to have more development in them.
 
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Good post. I'm heartily sick of many posts over these last few days. No account given to lack of crowds, virtually no pre-season, a ridiculous schedule of games. It's as though people think the players are machines that you switch on and can toss out if the mechanism goes wrong. Plus of course, this is after 3 DRAWS, not crushing defeats. So far, I'm pretty much hating this season and not just because it's an entirely alien concept but I'm sorry to say, some of our fans piss me of no end. I had someone PMing tonight whining about something or other - apparently he thought I might give a sh*t. I don't. I do some stuff on a website, I'm not a ****ing agony aunt.
Agree with you 100% on this. Finding this season very hard and not just because of the slow start on the pitch..
 

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For me, the most disappointing element was the lack of movement in front of the player on the ball. A number of times Jensen played a ball into space that you'd expect them to be moving into, only Toney seemed to be alert and mobile. Eventually, Jensen and even Dasilva just stopped and waited to see if there was movement – we can't carry on like that, it played into 'Boro's tactics perfectly.
I had similar feelings about the match. Our players are too often receiving the ball when stationary and that makes it easier to defend. If they could be moving before receiving the ball it gives them an advantage. When this does happen we look far more dangerous and have the defending team worried.
 

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I am fed up with people making excuses on here a lot our injuries and how shot our squad is. it’s the same for all of the other teams. I am not one for slagging team and players off. But i have to say watching the team this season has bored me sh*tless, after watching the Sheff wed game i thought at last the team are at last getting a rhythm back, but alas we have now gone backwards. We are playing with little tempo, cannot string a phase of passing, and are 2nd best at 2nd balls. When we do have possession we are slow and predictable.we have players like Rico, Pinnock, Toney, Josh playing well consistently. The rest are blowing hot and cold. Sorry i cant sugar coat what I have seen this season so far,the sooner it changes the better.
 
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I am fed up with people making excuses on here a lot our injuries and how shot our squad is. it’s the same for all of the other teams. I am not one for slagging team and players off. But i have to say watching the team this season has bored me sh*tless, after watching the Sheff wed game i thought at last the team are at last getting a rhythm back, but alas we have now gone backwards. We are playing with little tempo, cannot string a phase of passing, and are 2nd best at 2nd balls. When we do have possession we are slow and predictable.we have players like Rico, Pinnock, Toney, Josh playing well consistently. The rest are blowing hot and cold. Sorry i cant sugar coat what I have seen this season so far,the sooner it changes the better.
We played very well against Norwich and then again at Luton. Swansea was a tough one where we didn't really turn up and Boro was always going to be a bore fest. Even the likes of Josh have struggled the last couple of games so I don't think it's a case of us just being sh*t.. It's difficult to compare with other teams without knowing how much they're rotating but certainly in the last couple the opposition has looked fresher.. It's still early in the season, we look quite similar to the side this time last year where it wasn't quite clicking (coincidentally when Norgaard and Said were unavailable/unfit). Think we picked up in November so hopefully the same will happen here. We've generally looked more than comfortable against the lower placed teams and have struggled a little against the form sides. I'm hopeful it'll pick up after the international break with Norgaard back. On the plus side we look like we've found a very solid CB pairing in Pinnock and Sorenson.
 
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Watching it on ifollow was a bit like being transported back 12 years or so.

Empty ground, drab football and some miserable bastards grumbling in your ear for 90 minutes.
Yes :rolleyes:
Bring back Cockram and Evans
 
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It was a dreadful game, but we haven't had too many of those in the last five years

On to the next game...
 

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I am fed up with people making excuses on here a lot our injuries and how shot our squad is. it’s the same for all of the other teams. I am not one for slagging team and players off. But i have to say watching the team this season has bored me sh*tless, after watching the Sheff wed game i thought at last the team are at last getting a rhythm back, but alas we have now gone backwards. We are playing with little tempo, cannot string a phase of passing, and are 2nd best at 2nd balls. When we do have possession we are slow and predictable.we have players like Rico, Pinnock, Toney, Josh playing well consistently. The rest are blowing hot and cold. Sorry i cant sugar coat what I have seen this season so far,the sooner it changes the better.
I wonder if the fact that our pre season was the shortest of any, and by the end of last season they were playing on empty having made a magnificent effort to get promotion explains our current “ jaded” look. I would also Chuck into the equation the mental fatigue occasioned by failure to secure promotion both automatically or via the playoffs.

You may consider that these are just excuses however personally I feel that combined with the sterile world of football it is having an effect on a predominately young squad
 

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We played very well against Norwich and then again at Luton. Swansea was a tough one where we didn't really turn up and Boro was always going to be a bore fest. Even the likes of Josh have struggled the last couple of games so I don't think it's a case of us just being sh*t.. It's difficult to compare with other teams without knowing how much they're rotating but certainly in the last couple the opposition has looked fresher.. It's still early in the season, we look quite similar to the side this time last year where it wasn't quite clicking (coincidentally when Norgaard and Said were unavailable/unfit). Think we picked up in November so hopefully the same will happen here. We've generally looked more than comfortable against the lower placed teams and have struggled a little against the form sides. I'm hopeful it'll pick up after the international break with Norgaard back. On the plus side we look like we've found a very solid CB pairing in Pinnock and Sorenson.
Must admit i missed the Luton game, and you cant knock a 3-0 away win. I do not agree with you on the Norwich game as it could and should have been 2 mill up for them in the ist twenty mins. There equaliser was a fluke though. Do not like having a go though, agree with you on Sorensen he is going to be good, and i hope we pick up soon as you say.
 

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