Post Match Thread Brentford 2-0 Coventry

[BFC1997]

Good performance. Coventry not great. Realistically, the win could have been by a wider margin.

Was good to see solid performances from what felt like a more settled side from the start. Toney in full flow now. Also promising cameos from Janelt and Ghoddos.

Downside is the game didn’t really feel like much of a challenge. Weaknesses from previous games not exploited. No-one in sky blue running at Henrik with pace, or pressing our “quarterbacks” in Jensen and Janelt. It was also frustrating to see Marcondes, Toney and Henry repeatedly drop to the floor with injury. Hopefully nothing serious there as we could do with as settled side as possible now that the window is shut.

End of the day, +3 and some positive momentum to take into a tough next two fixtures. Can’t say fairer than that.

 

[Mr Cynical]

Brentford came out flying from the off, looked like they wanted to make amends for the Preston game. Coventry sat back with a 5 man defence and tried to catch us on the break but they couldn't get out of our half for the first 20/25 mins. We should really have been 2 or 3 up. Good chances for Pontus. Marcondes and Toney came and went and some last ditch defending and good goalkeeping kept us out. Jensen was on fire, picking out passes left right and centre and finding space for himself with ease, even coming out with a Said-like chip over a Cov players head..

Brentford were dominant without really putting them to the sword and after a bit of a pause for an injury to Henry, Coventry started to feel they could get something out of it. They pressed higher up the pitch and started to cause us a few problems. We held out fairly comfortably and went in at HT all square..

Second half needed a fast start and we got that, a lovely counter with found Marcondes, his ball to Mbuemo looked a tad short but the Cov defender slipped trying to reach it and Mbuemo's shot ended up being the perfect cross for Toney to tap in. Suspicions of offside but 1-0 bees..

Toney got his second after an absolute peach of a cross from Marcondes on the left, picked out Toney at the far post between two defenders and Ivan powered it in. At this point it was looking like a question of how many for the bees..

Unfortunately Toney went down under a heavy challenge and eventually had to come off. Forss replaced him but not long after Marcondes picked up an injury and he was replaced by Janelt for his debut. Again this seemed to give Coventry a little impetus and they started to put us under pressure again. We'd lost our shape a bit, Henry and Canos were looking tired and they started to play the ball around us quickly creating opportunities. Raya mad a great save at point blank range and we generally defended well but we'd lost our outlet in Toney and we couldn't keep hold of the ball. Ghoddos came on to give JDS a rest but the last 10 mins were pretty much all Coventry. However we looked kind of comfortable and a bit more like our old selves defensively and saw the game out..

Much better than last week with some real positives. Jensen was superb with his range of passing, JDS looked strong and Marcondes found lots of space in behind Toney and supported him ably which meant we were generally on top in midfield. Raya returning was a huge plus as was Henry. Canos and Mbuemo both worked v hard and had their moments but it's not quite coming off for them, pretty sure Fosu and Ghoddos will get some time this week. Toney going off is a worry, hope it's just a precaution as he looks like he's going to score a bucketful for us this season. Forss is v promising but the ball didn't really stick once Ivan had gone off.. Janelt looked like a real find, really comfortable on the ball and a sweet left foot. Looks a big fella too and not lacking in pace.. Could well be the cover for Norgaard we need but also potentially when he's back another strong option alongside. V promising..

We're still getting to grips with our new lineup but there were plenty of signs that we're heading in the right direction. Two tough games v Sheff W and Stoke this week will give us a bit more idea if we're back on track. I thought Coventry actually looked a decent side and I don't think they'll be the whipping boys some people think...

 

[Voice from the Braemar]

good first 25 and should have been 3 up......2nd half we werent as good but we got a proper centre forward in toney who knows how to finish.......mom was rico with jds just behind......jensen was much better but it was against poor opposition so im looking at him in the next 2 games to prove he can play against physical stronger teams like sheff weds and stoke,.......mbeumo looks like a bloke gone missing.,......what the feck has happened to him ? canos tried. decent few passes but still not what we need if we are to progress.......pontus looked a lot happier and raya looked decent in goal,,,,,,,,marcondes is still a worry.....against one of the worst midfields weve seen so far he still doesnt look the part.....thank god rico was back and dalsgaard looked better for it too..........we need to improve in the next 2 games to get anything out of them and coventry will defo be in bottom 6 this season.......its a vital win but it wasnt great

 

[Leedsbee]

Disjointed performance but the three new boys looked really good, Jensen got involved and JDS looking immense. Not really clicking yet but we didn't at the start of last season until the Derby game. Haven't quite thrown off last seasons disappointments but I think we're exactly where we need to be.

 

[Stanley]

After the horror show in the second half against Preston a win today today was a must and the team delivered, with some ease in the end. We were worthy winners and even if it wasn’t a top top performance it was a good one against a side who could have made life difficult for us.

Happy with that and a confidence boost for the team going into two testing away games. We need to improve even more but I am sure we will.

 

[bexleybee]

Reading through some tweets, some Cov fans not happy with Toney’s airplane celebration. Any ideas why? Who was he taking the p1ss out of?

 

[PersianTactician]

Wasn't home to catch the game, but I'm glad for the win. from the comments, i read it was a nice start for Brentford with a lot of venom but less concentration on the last finishing to get that goal, still, 2 goals will be great to take for this game along with 3 points which will help! I predicted that Ghoddos would start on the bench and I'm hopeful of him meshing better with the team as time goes on. Let's keep the momentum and rock on!

 

[Wooburn Bee]

Reading through some tweets, some Cov fans not happy with Toney’s airplane celebration. Any ideas why? Who was he taking the p1ss out of?

Maybe very old reference to World War Two when Germany absolutely decimated Coventry with air raids (May have been one specific very heavy concentrated raid) including destroying their famous chathedral

 

[LostBee]

Maybe very old reference to World War Two when Germany absolutely decimated Coventry with air raids (May have been one specific very heavy concentrated raid) including destroying their famous chathedral

Seems extremely unlikely, why would anyone want to reference that in a goal celebration?

 

[AB]

Seems extremely unlikely, why would anyone want to reference that in a goal celebration?

Possibly very old beef based on Toney having played for Northampton and Coventry playing at Sixfields in a previous bout of homelessness? I doubt Toney or anyone else celebrates the razing of the historic city centre of Coventry nearly 80 years ago.

 

[rebus]

Seems extremely unlikely, why would anyone want to reference that in a goal celebration?

Exactly. Toney doesn’t exactly look like a war historian.

 

[WARFIELD BEE]

Good performance for 75 mins, but should have scored more goals, the next 2 games will show us where we are at, hope Toney is ok.

 

[jbee]

Reading through some tweets, some Cov fans not happy with Toney’s airplane celebration. Any ideas why? Who was he taking the p1ss out of?

Matty Godden, who is apparently known for this celebration.

 

[Wooburn Bee]

Seems extremely unlikely, why would anyone want to reference that in a goal celebration?

I didn’t mean Toney referenced it at all but Coventry supporters interpreted it totally wrongly

 

[A Real Mysteron]

Matty Godden, who is apparently known for this celebration.

I’ve honestly no idea who that is.

 

[hatfieldbee]

I’ve honestly no idea who that is.

Was playing for Coventry today.

 

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This afternoon's Bees Bulletin podcast is now online: Brentford V Coventry City | Bees Bulletin

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[super J]

You often hear managers talking about wanting the opportunity to quickly bounce back after a poor performance and defeat, but with the international break it must have been a long two weeks for Thomas Frank who probably hasn't been able to stop thinking about that second half shambles against Preston.

Following that display and the chaos of transfer deadline and Benrahma's departure, I think we all would have taken a scrappy victory. It turned out it was anything but scrappy and we produced a pretty impressive victory that could have been more emphatic than the scoreline. A similar game to the Huddersfield one last month, average opposition who came looking to frustrate and perhaps steal something on the break, we missed a host of chances with Toney, Marcondes and Canos all going close. Coventry came with 5 at the back looking to stifle but offered little threat and I'll be surprised if they finish above the bottom six.

Patience was the key and the pressure was always going to tell eventually, straight from the restart Mbuemo cuts in on his left as he loves to do, you expected the net to bulge but a suspiciously offside looking Toney poked out his right foot to divert into the net. Just a few minutes later and Marcondes curls in a delightful cross to the back post for Toney again to nod home and effectively it was game, set and match.

Sadly injuries began to take over and we were forced to make subs that lost our intensity with Toney, Marcondes and Henry all picking up knocks. We sat off and allowed Coventry the ball, Raya punched a cross straight to Coventry player who hit the bar and had that gone in it could have got interesting, but thankfully Coventry didn't have the quality to hurt us.

Jensen needed a performance after a poor display against Preston (he wasn't alone) and looked much more comfortable playing deeper and dictating play. Really liked the look of Janelt, cultured left foot who sprayed passes around and sat in front of the back four. I'd imagine he will come in midweek for a difficult away game. Toney now has 5 in 5 in the league plus the shoot out penalties and is looking more and more comfortable. Hopefully Rico is ok as we really are half the side without him.

 

[pompeybee]

Seems extremely unlikely, why would anyone want to reference that in a goal celebration?

You'd really hope he wouldnt be that crass. A bit like the Munich references against Man United. But, as you say, it seems pretty unlikely.

 

[Isleworth_Bee]

good first 25 and should have been 3 up......2nd half we werent as good but we got a proper centre forward in toney who knows how to finish.......mom was rico with jds just behind......jensen was much better but it was against poor opposition so im looking at him in the next 2 games to prove he can play against physical stronger teams like sheff weds and stoke,.......mbeumo looks like a bloke gone missing.,......what the feck has happened to him ? canos tried. decent few passes but still not what we need if we are to progress.......pontus looked a lot happier and raya looked decent in goal,,,,,,,,marcondes is still a worry.....against one of the worst midfields weve seen so far he still doesnt look the part.....thank god rico was back and dalsgaard looked better for it too..........we need to improve in the next 2 games to get anything out of them and coventry will defo be in bottom 6 this season.......its a vital win but it wasnt great

Jesus, cheer up Voice FFS.

 

[condorman]

Maybe very old reference to World War Two when Germany absolutely decimated Coventry with air raids (May have been one specific very heavy concentrated raid) including destroying their famous chathedral

There’s photos of him doing same celebration in a posh shirt if you do a google image search. Nothing to see here

 

[Les Beeavinu]

There’s photos of him doing same celebration in a posh shirt if you do a google image search. Nothing to see here

You wait until you see the celebration he's got lined off for Wednesday goading them about the demise of the steel industry in Sheffield.

 

[A Real Mysteron]

The bombing of Coventry.
Jesus H Christ. Are some of you for real?

 

[Lionel Bart-At]

There’s photos of him doing same celebration in a posh shirt if you do a google image search. Nothing to see here

Hopefully not against Coventry (only).

 

[Lionel Bart-At]

Wasn't home to catch the game, but I'm glad for the win. from the comments, i read it was a nice start for Brentford with a lot of venom but less concentration on the last finishing to get that goal, still, 2 goals will be great to take for this game along with 3 points which will help! I predicted that Ghoddos would start on the bench and I'm hopeful of him meshing better with the team as time goes on. Let's keep the momentum and rock on!

Ghoddos seems to be coming to the boil nicely. Not trying anything too flash yet, but doing the essentials very efficiently. Looks like he has a very solid foundation to his game. Played out a sound team role today, but looking forward to seeing what he really has in his locker. Like what I see of his attitude. Seems a team player.

 

[Mr Cynical]

A lot of people have said that Coventry were woeful but I don't think that was fair at all. They were very naive first half, sat back and allowed us (and Jensen in particular) to have the ball but they came back strongly towards the end of the first half and again in the second when two down. Whilst we saw it out we weren't THAT comfortable last 15. They passed it around nicely and with purpose and pressed us well at the end. If they'd got one of their chances in I'd think we'd have been justifiably worried. I think they'll do alright once they've got to grips with the division....

 

[Babbelfish]

You wait until you see the celebration he's got lined off for Wednesday goading them about the demise of the steel industry in Sheffield.

And the one for Stoke when he pretends to set light to a collection of short stories by Arnold Bennett

 

[TW3Bee]

Reading through some tweets, some Cov fans not happy with Toney’s airplane celebration. Any ideas why? Who was he taking the p1ss out of?

The second part of his celebration for his first goal was more worrying.

 

[TorbayBee]

And the one for Stoke when he pretends to set light to a collection of short stories by Arnold Bennett

And the Norwich match will see his pastiche of the 1274 riots which led to the City’s excommunication

 

[Banana]

Cardiff away celebrations of the 1911 Miners' Strike might be interesting. I hope it's still behind closed doors!

 

[condorman]

And the Norwich match will see his pastiche of the 1274 riots which led to the City’s excommunication

apparently he’s got a comedy additional finger to strap on for that one

 

[mhead bee]

Solid performance, Toney 5 in 3 is it?

Some stuff might concenrn other people like BM being a bit off key, we sat back a bit and they created for last 20 etc, but overall we were far superior and probably 7/10 all round.

Positives, Toney is the absolute nuts, the young German, fekk me, another absolute f***ing gem. EM buzzing and is really becoming a top player for us, M Jenson is better than any player who England have put out in the last three games and Sergi is not going down without a fight. Some don't think he has it but he scares the opposition and gives 100% every game and not many do that. Raya was proper mental at times but his control of the area and distribution was outstanding.

JDS is a top, top player, the next ya ya, he has it all.

 

[Wooburn Bee]

Solid performance, Toney 5 in 3 is it?

Some stuff might concenrn other people like BM being a bit off key, we sat back a bit and they created for last 20 etc, but overall we were far superior and probably 7/10 all round.

Positives, Toney is the absolute nuts, the young German, fekk me, another absolute ****ing gem. EM buzzing, M Jenson is better than any player who England jhave put out in the last three games amd Sergi is not going down without a fight. Some don't think he has it but he scares the opposition and gives 100% every game and not msny do that. Raya was proper mental at times but his control of the area and distribution was outstanding.

JDS is a top, top player, the next ya ya, he has it all.

Sergi will give 110 percent every single gameand that combined with the talent he has And the understanding of how we want to play makes him a key player for the club. It’s all about the team and not eleven individual players

 

[mhead bee]

A lot of people have said that Coventry were woeful but I don't think that was fair at all. They were very naive first half, sat back and allowed us (and Jensen in particular) to have the ball but they came back strongly towards the end of the first half and again in the second when two down. Whilst we saw it out we weren't THAT comfortable last 15. They passed it around nicely and with purpose and pressed us well at the end. If they'd got one of their chances in I'd think we'd have been justifiably worried. I think they'll do alright once they've got to grips with the division....

They tried to go 2 banks of 5 but were battered first half but didn't concede. When they attacked us second half (to be fair we were in consolidsation mode by then) they were fairly dangerous. We have been done 0.1 by many sides like this in the last 5 years and will be again. No mugs.

 

[Vid]

Maybe very old reference to World War Two when Germany absolutely decimated Coventry with air raids (May have been one specific very heavy concentrated raid) including destroying their famous chathedral

That's just silly. A Heinkel He 111 doesn't fly like that.

 

[TW3Bee]

5 Goals in Three games.

He's flying now, surely that is all it is.

 

[unBEEliveable]

Reading through some tweets, some Cov fans not happy with Toney’s airplane celebration. Any ideas why? Who was he taking the p1ss out of?

After the second goal my daughter made some reference to his celebration that sounded right out of TikTok or Snapchat so assume that it is far more likely to be some social media phenomenon than an obscure reference to Second World War Nazi bombing campaigns!

Really enjoyed today after the second half capitulation to PNE, comfortable win and a clean sheet which gives us something to build on going into two difficult away fixtures.

 

[moribee]

I wod have thought its just an "I am flying" celebration

 

[Leicester Bee]

After the Preston game, I didn't expect us to do much other than grind out a win, more so because of Norgaard's absence. Fortunately, Coventry came to defend, allow the freedom of the park to Jensen, and therefore were the ideal opponents for us.
That said, they had one big chance to score against us due to inept defending of a set piece, leaving their extra man completely to get a shot off. Had that gone in, I think our confidence might have drained.
But it didn't, and by and large, we were allowed to play. Coventry demonstrated that they'd set themselves up wrong from the off by showing that they could attack, but too little too late. No doubt, though, that even if we're not quite at our best, we'll beat most teams that come to defend against us. We're better equipped to do so, in my opinion, because Toney is a handful whether in the air, on the deck, linking up play, getting shots off, closing opponents down, etc. He's one of the most complete strikers I've ever seen at our club.
However, Coventry just didn't do their homework. Press hard and high, slow the game down, and then questions get asked of us.
So taking whatever positives there were from the game, we weren't tested.
Anyway, things to learn from the game:
We know that our back line is weaker without any one of the strongest four.
We know that Jensen is a good passer of the ball, but only if he's afforded the time. He is, in all honesty, another Josh MacEachran.
We know that Marcondes is a 6 out of 10 player, who does possess the ability to score goals and create assists.
We know that Sergi is a far weaker prospect going forward than Saïd was, but Sergi does work his nuts off for the team and that will create chances for us.
Mbeumo is simply not the player he was last season and is not really showing signs of recapturing his form......yet.
DaSilva is, simply, one of the hottest prospects we have right now. He's yet to completely dominate games, but by and large he's becoming a powerhouse for us.
Loved the cameo by Janelt. He clearly has a bit to learn at this stage but there is clearly a player in there. He'll probably be making much more of an impact in the second half of the season.
And not forgetting that we also have a decent bunch of players waiting in the wings.
So for me, we need to demonstrate what we're really made of against the tougher opponents. I fear we look a little light at this stage, but let's see. But bear in mind that this is going to be a tough season for the sheer frequency of games, so we need to be patient as the best squads will get promoted this season.

 

[bubb]

Maybe very old reference to World War Two when Germany absolutely decimated Coventry with air raids (May have been one specific very heavy concentrated raid) including destroying their famous chathedral

I’m not sure most people Ivan’s age are aware of the bombing of Coventry during WW2. And even if they are wouldn’t really think of using it against the football team. Silly of them to think his celebration was related to it.

 

[spirebee]

Reading through some tweets, some Cov fans not happy with Toney’s airplane celebration. Any ideas why? Who was he taking the p1ss out of?

More of a drone I'd say.....

 

[To Bee Someone]

Hope he doesn't score against Stoke. He might reanact that scene from Ghost with Sergi.

 

[Vid]

I was concerned to see the amount of strapping around Toneys’ legs at the start of the game and the support stocking when he went off.

 

[Bigbee]

Sounds like he's ok for Wednesday in the post match interview ?

 

[hatfieldbee]

Sounds like he's ok for Wednesday in the post match interview ?

No mention in TF or IT interview about his substitution.

 

[Beecareful]

Baby steps .... we have just lost arguably our two best forwards in the Club's history. So to win by two goals is ok in my book. Far to soon to judge the new signings but the omens are positive. They need time.

It is possible that this season will be one step back before two steps forward next season.

Enjoy the ride and remember the Championship is a very strong league and seemed to be the holy grail only a few short years ago.

 

[Untouchable]

Cardiff away celebrations of the 1911 Miners' Strike might be interesting. I hope it's still behind closed doors!

Ivan’s next celebration will be a playful mocking of the fat cat Benham and his new boat:

 

[jlove]

We started off much more like a complete team and, but for some wayward finishing and some exceptionally poor decision-making, should have scored in that first 30 minutes. Coventry by then changed, I think more to their natural style of play, with more composure, passing and playing much higher up the pitch – you could then see what got them so far in front in League 1. We seemed to have a bit a tweak of formation, with both Jensen and Dasilva behind Marcondes, playing more like a 10, which gave us more control.

The second half started with us much more focused on getting quality balls into the box and some superb work from midfield opened them up and Toney finished them off with real flourish... the boy done good. Eventually, Coventry went for it by going wide and crossing but (apart from Raya's rush of blood) we coped with it reasonably well, helped by Janelt's first appearance, which was mightily impressive, and another tweak to the midfield structure as Ghoddos came on as well.

Much more contribution needed from the wide attackers, although Mbeumo's assist (or goal attempt) registered. Jansson still gives me the jitters, though...

 

[West Wilts Bee]

Long way to go yet, Ivan has settled in, as Leicester bee says very inept defending, we defended a free kick, with a Coventry player right on the end of the line unmarked he got the ball and shot wide when it looked easier to score. This was school boy defending and needs to be ironed out. Not firing on all cylinders as yet, but i think perhaps a better start than this time last year. We have also lost two very classy players, so i expect it will take time to adjust . Very impressed with vitaly and reckon he is a star in the making. I have faith in this club and see us getting there in the end, maybe not this season, i hope i am wrong.

 

[West Wilts Bee]

5 Goals in Three games.

He's flying now, surely that is all it is.

Correct me if I’m wrong but why on earth would Ivan celebrate the Germans bombing coventry. He is an Englishman, and as it has been said that he is too young to remember it, and it would certainly not register very deep in his brain. I have seen that type of goal celebration loads of times, folk are so pc these days