Bristol City Selected for EFL International Live Game

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Not sure if this is the best place to mention this but it looks like the Brentford v Bristol City game is the EFL international live game for next Saturday. It is showing on the New Zealand Sky Sport 7 schedule. So no doubt to be shown elsewhere internationally.
 

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No it wasn't :)

Burying news in an old thread isn't what we should do. Please start a new thread when there is material new news such as this. Thanks.
 

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So another game that won't be shown on iFollow in most countries. Great. :banghead:

The season pass should be renamed to something more descriptive.
 

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No it wasn't :)

Burying news in an old thread isn't what we should do. Please start a new thread when there is material new news such as this. Thanks.
I don't think everyone has access to start a new thread do they, I don't think I have?
 

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I don't think everyone has access to start a new thread do they, I don't think I have?
If anyone is registered as a member, then they can start a new thread. Even I, as a non technophobe have managed it a few times!
 

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It will, but it won't now be available on the international subscriptions that me and pixie have. It's a little annoying.
So much for their support your club, dont use illegal streams messaging. Leaves overseas Bees who have paid for a season pass with little other option.
 

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If anyone is registered as a member, then they can start a new thread. Even I, as a non technophobe have managed it a few times!
I Can't see anywhere where it states new thread or something similar, ah just stumbled across it!
 

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Should the international ifollow pass be a fixed price when you don't know how many games you will get?

Maybe a prorata refund or credit towards your renewal would be fairer?
 

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Not really, the reason it is unavailable on iFollow is because you have a legal way of watching it locally by a broadcaster who paid for it
You have to then pay this local broadcaster though, having already paid for ifollow. They are not free to air channels, but a foreign Sky equivalent.
 
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Should the international ifollow pass be a fixed price when you don't know how many games you will get?

Maybe a prorata refund or credit towards your renewal would be fairer?
Would have said so yes. At the moment, the better the team does and the more live sky games we feature in the less we get for our money. Seems counter intuitive.

Arent many products you pay for in advance without knowing what you're going to actually get. Apart from drugs maybe.
 
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You have to then pay this local broadcaster though, having already paid for ifollow. They are not free to air channels, but a foreign Sky equivalent.
Yes but I was challenging the point that there is no option other than illegal streams. I think we are extremely lucky in the UK that iFollow still shows Sky games for ST holders, there is no way that would happen anywhere else or in the Premier League.
 

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Yes but I was challenging the point that there is no option other than illegal streams. I think we are extremely lucky in the UK that iFollow still shows Sky games for ST holders, there is no way that would happen anywhere else or in the Premier League.
If you live abroad there's no option
 

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You have to then pay this local broadcaster though, having already paid for ifollow. They are not free to air channels, but a foreign Sky equivalent.
The same happens here in normal circumstances. We can only watch in the UK on iFollow as a STHer during a global pandemic.
 

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The same happens here in normal circumstances. We can only watch in the UK on iFollow as a STHer during a global pandemic.
I know, but you are getting that for free though? We pay upfront for ifollow without knowing what we will get in return. And when selected for sky then have to use illegal streams, which I'd rather not do
 

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The same happens here in normal circumstances. We can only watch in the UK on iFollow as a STHer during a global pandemic.
Yes, although they don't sell an Season Video pass in the UK only Audio.
 

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I know, but you are getting that for free though? We pay upfront for ifollow without knowing what we will get in return. And when selected for sky then have to use illegal streams, which I'd rather not do
I think this is a fair point.

The FSA are engaging with iFollow on this. A few of us have been talking with the FSA re iFollow, this seems another wrinkle to be addressed.
 

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I think this is a fair point.

The FSA are engaging with iFollow on this. A few of us have been talking with the FSA re iFollow, this seems another wrinkle to be addressed.
Be great if you could, thanks. I'd rather give more dosh to the club than use the streams, but perhaps dont tell them that bit!
 

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I think this is a fair point.

The FSA are engaging with iFollow on this. A few of us have been talking with the FSA re iFollow, this seems another wrinkle to be addressed.
Yes, I wonder how the revenue is split for overseas season sales. If it's it all paid upfront rather than per game this could be difficult to unpick.
 

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Yes, I wonder how the revenue is split for overseas season sales. If it's it all paid upfront rather than per game this could be difficult to unpick.
It's probably certain that nothing will change for this season. However this is an on-going issue it would seem
 

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To be fair it is a bit niche so i can understand it not being a high priority. It's still a good deal overall.
 

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Not really, the reason it is unavailable on iFollow is because you have a legal way of watching it locally by a broadcaster who paid for it
NO, I DON'T!! :banghead:

My local broadcaster, DAZN.com, only shows one Championship game a week of the 2-3 designated games, and never the 3pm Saturday game. But all of the designated games are blacked out on iFollow.
So I'm paying 2 subscriptions (iFollow and DAZN) and still miss about 6-8 games a year.

Apologies to all those who have heard this rant before.
 

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It's probably certain that nothing will change for this season. However this is an on-going issue it would seem
The issue described isn't a covid/this season issue. It's how things have always been for overseas fans.

The fundamental problem is that iFollow was conceived as a left over solution for overseas fans. The EFL selling the games they do to local broadcasters is the main money making event, making the rest of the games available via a product like iFollow is exploiting the left over opportunity as there is no 3pm blackout like we have in the UK. For season ticket holders this is why iFollow is just about good enough (for some anyway) as an experience as its the equivalent of buying a bag of broken biscuits.
 

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Just come up as being shown live on bein sports in Australia (along with Bournemouth and Tottenham games).
 

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Just come up as being shown live on bein sports in Australia (along with Bournemouth and Tottenham games).
Sadly, the quality of the picture on BeIn Sports Connect (which is the only way I can subscribe/use the service) is unacceptably poor. I'd be happy to pay a month's subs for 3 matches, but only if they provide a decent service, which they don't. Furthermore, I feel I have already paid to watch these matches through my annual iFollow subscription, the price of which went up by 40% this season. I have zero interest in getting up in the night to watch games that don't involve Brentford. I would be very surprised to find many people in Australia subscribe to BeIN Sports in order to watch generic Championship matches in the middle of the night.
 
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In New Zealand BeIN Connect is of a perfectly watchable quality with very few drop outs although not quite as good as directly from Sky. I have been able to watch most games directly from Sky but perhaps you don't subscribe Edmundo. And I watch very few games that don't involve Brentford.
 

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I agree, it’s annoying. The cost of the iFollow service here in Aus skyrocketed this season the cost was also poorly advertised as I didn’t see anywhere when I signed up that it was also going to be subject to GST so that only got added on after I had clicked ‘submit’.

I know that they now have replays and commentary but the cost has almost doubled since it first arrived a few seasons back.

I don’t subscribe to BeIN sports directly, but do subscribe to Kayo sports, that does give all of Foxtels sports channels, including BeIN. Being a Telstra customer I was able to take up an offer from them to have the cost of that reduced to $15 per month.

Kayo works great through my Apple TV box, usually.
 

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NO, I DON'T!! :banghead:

My local broadcaster, DAZN.com, only shows one Championship game a week of the 2-3 designated games, and never the 3pm Saturday game. But all of the designated games are blacked out on iFollow.
So I'm paying 2 subscriptions (iFollow and DAZN) and still miss about 6-8 games a year.

Apologies to all those who have heard this rant before.
Yup same here and to compound that further i have found the DAZN platform really unreliable, so ended up cancelling it
 

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I have paid for IFollow since its start in 2017/2018 season. Now, the full season pass is 166 € which is totally ok. I also pay 30 € per month for Viaplay which broadcasts every Brentford match (Championship and FA Cup) when they are not available via IFollow. I know it is a lot of money but, of course, I get much more from Viaplay (UFC, NFL, Premier League, and so on) so I would subscribe it anyway.

Before Ifollow, I saw 2-3 Brentford matches a season from TV (Vsport / Viaplay). That was really frustrating. Since the start of 2017/18 season, I was at Griffin Park 16 times + one away match at Portman Road in September 2018. So, I have and I will spend much money to see Brentford playing.

If and when we will be promoted to Premier League, the whole pattern changes again as I am not able to see every match on TV (unless Covid19 will reign forever) and can not come to London to every match, unfortunately.

So, waiting for my sudden yet pleasant Lotto jackpot to be able to come to live in London, and get a season ticket to Brentford Community Stadium.
 

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I am totally aware of the issue that the selection of a Brentford Game for overseas broadcast has for our international fans of the club via iFollow. However, I was shocked to read that a full season video pass costs only 166 Euros. Do correct me if I am wrong but I assume that is for Brentford games home and away. If so that represents tremendous value at less than £4 a game - albeit you may have a blanket coverage ban for a few of our games in the season (i guess I would rather have that as it only means Brentford is making giant strides) , still that is amazing value. I spent near enough that price to go up to Newcastle to see us play the black and whites when they were in the Championship a few seasons ago. We were placed so high up the stand (about 14 flights of stairs I believe) that I ended up watching the big screen placed on the side of the stand.
 

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I am totally aware of the issue that the selection of a Brentford Game for overseas broadcast has for our international fans of the club via iFollow. However, I was shocked to read that a full season video pass costs only 166 Euros. Do correct me if I am wrong but I assume that is for Brentford games home and away. If so that represents tremendous value at less than £4 a game - albeit you may have a blanket coverage ban for a few of our games in the season (i guess I would rather have that as it only means Brentford is making giant strides) , still that is amazing value. I spent near enough that price to go up to Newcastle to see us play the black and whites when they were in the Championship a few seasons ago. We were placed so high up the stand (about 14 flights of stairs I believe) that I ended up watching the big screen placed on the side of the stand.
Yes, 166 € for all Brentford championship matches. The price was 130 € first three seasons but of course it was not as professional as it is today. Yes, I think that is fair price even with the matches not shown there. And still, I would rather be able to attend matches in London in regular basis. And pay much more but get a real deal.
 

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When ifollow started, the watch option didn’t have commentary and the reliability and picture quality was shocking. The sound and vision were usually several seconds out of sync, so you heard the cheers for a goal well before it went in the net. It made steady improvements but the breakthrough in quality only really happened when it was opened up to season ticket holders as a replacement for attendance after the covid interruption to last season. It cost me £140 for this season (up from £100 in the first three seasons) which is decent value, but the customer service is still sh*t and remember that most games happen in the middle of the night for me. As everyone knows, it’s a poor substitute for actual attendance. What is the cheapest season ticket at Lionel Road?
 

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When ifollow started, the watch option didn’t have commentary and the reliability and picture quality was shocking. The sound and vision were usually several seconds out of sync, so you heard the cheers for a goal well before it went in the net. It made steady improvements but the breakthrough in quality only really happened when it was opened up to season ticket holders as a replacement for attendance after the covid interruption to last season. It cost me £140 for this season (up from £100 in the first three seasons) which is decent value, but the customer service is still sh*t and remember that most games happen in the middle of the night for me. As everyone knows, it’s a poor substitute for actual attendance. What is the cheapest season ticket at Lionel Road?
Wow, it seems from your feedback iFollow was a poor service in terms of quality of feed in the past. One advantage from this pandemic is hopefully the service will have improved leaps and bounds. I have never used the video service before this season when I froze my season ticket - I remember having a monthly audio pass many years ago so I could listen to the away games and I loved that window of opportunity. During the Covid situation, I did have a few problems in the first couple of games in getting a picture and realised it was my anti-virus programme that caused the issues as it was blocking the video feed, since then no issues and a great product is what I have observed. The undesirable hours for you to view the games can't be helped by the club, but for around £3.50 a pop, if I lived thousands of miles from my club, I would love to have a window of opportunity to see my club play as such a small cost. A season ticket (seated) for me is just under £400 as I always buy it in the early bird window. I also buy my nephews too which is £100 as he is under 16
 

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