Bryan Mbeumo - Signs to June 2024

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He was slightly under the radar last season with the other two members of los amigos making the headlines.
 

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I haven't got time to delete but can we stop talking about the wider considerations of covid in this thread please, it's completely irrelevant to last night's game of football.
I disagree in this instance. Long Covid can cause fatiguing symptoms well beyond the original “ill period” and can affect people who were largely asymptomatic at the time. So it could be impacting Bryan who hasn’t seemed to be quite on his game since he was unwell on a consistent basis. He’s still a threat, yes, but he is not playing as well
 

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He's only recently turned 21 and for probably the first time in his short career he's a marked man by opposition players, it takes players time to learn how to deal with the added pressure of having 2 or 3 men on them every time, he's also now having to get used to having 2 new players up top with him and getting an understanding, again it takes time.

It's been made harder by the lack of time they've had on the training ground as pretty much every week will be recovery, plan for the next game, play game, recovery, plan for the next one - not a lot of time to work on things that they had last season with Ollie and Said. He's also been away on international duty each time which again would eat into the time spent on our training ground getting an understanding with Ivan and Saman/Sergi.

He still has 1 goal and 4 (I think?) assists despite being "poor" so think we maybe need to get off his back a bit but then I also think a growing section of our fans need to learn to calm down and cut every one some slack.
 

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I disagree in this instance. Long Covid can cause fatiguing symptoms well beyond the original “ill period” and can affect people who were largely asymptomatic at the time. So it could be impacting Bryan who hasn’t seemed to be quite on his game since he was unwell on a consistent basis. He’s still a threat, yes, but he is not playing as well
Keeping it to Mbeumo specifically, there was no suggestion that he had Covid-19. He had one positive coronavirus test in a sequence of negative tests. This caused him to miss a couple of weeks of training. The fact that he does not seem to have reached the height of his peak last season is more likely to be that defences are less concerned about our left side than him on the right and know that they must prevent him coming inside and having a shot.
 

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apart from the assist with his right foot!!
One assist with his weak foot doesnt mask the fact that he was slow and predictable.

If i was an away side i would ensure we show him the line and double up blocking the inside route. Job done.

He was pants last night and has been for weeks.
 

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One assist with his weak foot doesnt mask the fact that he was slow and predictable.

If i was an away side i would ensure we show him the line and double up blocking the inside route. Job done.

He was pants last night and has been for weeks.
He also provided the cross for our second best chance.
 

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Last night he was marked by Jacob Sorensen who was having his first game for Norwich and was only playing because their LB got injured in the warmup.
In 19/20 playing for Esbjerg in Denmark he played 23 league games in centre midfield.
Wouldnt we have hoped for a far better display from BM in this situation.
 

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Last night he was marked by Jacob Sorensen who was having his first game for Norwich and was only playing because their LB got injured in the warmup.
In 19/20 playing for Esbjerg in Denmark he played 23 league games in centre midfield.
Wouldnt we have hoped for a far better display from BM in this situation.
He set up our goal
 

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Not the player we saw last season, his form has been disapointing was expecting big things this season. Still time to see that.
 

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Not the player we saw last season, his form has been disapointing was expecting big things this season. Still time to see that.
The front three has changed significantly. That's going to have a big impact on the one remaining player in it and those who interact with it. It takes time to get used to how new players play when you're used to instinctively finding a player without a second thought. Toney's hit the ground running, yes, but he's a very different player to Ollie. Ghoddos has only just started to get fit and is slowly starting to show what he's about. Remember Mbuemo the first month here? He looked like he couldn't control the ball. All part of getting used to the role in the side. The goal we scored against Norwich is significant as it's the first that's involved the whole new front three (GMT if you like!) and that's massively encouraging. Also the period after we scored where our attacking play really started to flow. That's all about getting to know a new way of working. Bryan is also having to deal with a lot more attention. Players know he wants to get it on his left.. We've clearly been working on that as he's gone outside a lot more so far this season but it's obviously still a little alien to him. Worked on tuesday though so sure he'll try it again.. Give it time, he's quality and needs to play to make the magic happen....
 

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The Quest pundits said the Toney, Mbeumo pairing is working on and off the field.
 

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Not especially but I don't think he was as bad as being portrayed.
Fair enough. I just think some are getting an "easy time" on here and Twitter when players like Canos, Marcondes and Jensen (up until a few weeks ago) are berated week in week out.
 

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So you think he had a good game?
Don't think he was as bad as some paint it. He at least doesn't hide, and clearly worries opposition who mark him out as the big danger, by doubling up on him.
 

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I've got coats that are older than Bryan. I really don't know what some people want, you'd be nuts to discard a player that talented without trying to integrate him into the new forward line. There doesn't seem much wrong with his attitude or work rate, I think he's just frustrated that things aren't coming off at the moment. But he's still contributing.
 

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We played him into form last season and I suspect we'll do the same this season with some rest based on workrate as per the substitutions thread. Bryan & Ivan are the two clear class acts of our front three and need to be on the pitch as much as possible, especially while Ghoddos is settling in.
 

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Toney and Mbeumo have been, so far this season, the two most significant contributors to our goals, both scoring and assists, with Josh and Henrik next in line. It seems utterly preposterous to keep going on about other players. It's the left attack position that we should all be focused on. Get that side firing and the front three will be top of the scoring charts again.
 
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Keeping it to Mbeumo specifically, there was no suggestion that he had Covid-19. He had one positive coronavirus test in a sequence of negative tests. This caused him to miss a couple of weeks of training. The fact that he does not seem to have reached the height of his peak last season is more likely to be that defences are less concerned about our left side than him on the right and know that they must prevent him coming inside and having a shot.
He was woeful when he came back after testing positive, was really surprised he kept starting, was getting worse each game. Looked dead on his feet and struggled with the basics.
 

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Sorry to his fans but IMO we are carrying him. Give Fosu a chance and put Mbeumo on the bench.
 

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Not at his best but better than anyone else in his position and,with his assists i'd suggest he's more likely carrying us.
 

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It's quite amazing that he's the player who is our highest rated wide attacker by a considerable margin on WhoScored, by all measures in the top 3 of all our squad, even defensive actions, and people want to drop him.
 

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I understand your concern but he is still creating chances. Can't really leave him out if he's laying on the spot for Ivan to score.
That was good but it doesn't excuse the overall poor performance. Maybe Fosu would have scored or done more.? We don't know. We will never know until he's given a chance.
 

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That was good but it doesn't excuse the overall poor performance. Maybe Fosu would have scored or done more.? We don't know. We will never know until he's given a chance.
I can guarantee you Fosu would not have had anywhere near the impact Mbuemo has had so far...
 

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4 assists 1 goal and opposition doubling up on him. Doubt Toney would have 8 goals and therefore may not have 11 points.
It was encouraging to see him twice beat his man to the right and set up the goal and the Toney header for the Dalsgaard chance. That has to be an ongoing part of his game as it had become too easy for defenders to predict his next move. We are third highest scorers in the league despite losing two elements of BMW. At the 8 game mark last season we had only scored 5 times.
 

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Has been pants for weeks and avoids some of the turgid abuse others get.
I for one don't see benefit in hurling abuse at any player. Pitch side or on GPG/social media.

MB needs to work hard on the training pitch and with the analysis team to find form again. Do that extra work before going into games.
 

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It's not even as if he is losing the ball trying to beat a man or trying to thread someone through on goal. A lot of the time it is just careless passing or being caught in possession in his own half. He will grow as a player and I have no doubt become a fantastic, well rounded player however I don't think we should be carrying players who are clearly out of form/low on confidence.
 

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Folks. Take a step back

The lad has just turned 21
Just over a year in a foreign country (Those on here with sons, think how they would have coped in France at 21 say. Mine :rolleyes: )
Over the summer he has lost his French cohort from the first team squad
He tested positive for COVID in June
Did he overperform last year?
Usually has two opponents on him. Freeing up space for others?
As @Gee Bee said, goal and assists while not his normal level

He will get much better
 

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Folks. Take a step back

The lad has just turned 21
Just over a year in a foreign country (Those on here with sons, think how they would have coped in France at 21 say. Mine :rolleyes: )
Over the summer he has lost his French cohort from the first team squad
He tested positive for COVID in June
Did he overperform last year?
Usually has two opponents on him. Freeing up space for others?
As @Gee Bee said, goal and assists while not his normal level

He will get much better


Remember Ollie was completely sh*t, gutless, wanted to leave and wasn't trying because he wanted out before last season. Oh, and will never be a centre forward either.

Every defeat is followed by the same rubbish, I am just waiting for the Brentford relegation thread to come back.

Just for the record, this covid stuff needs to stop. He was asymptomatic, also he has blood tests every day to check oxygen, fitness etc etc. If there was any adverse affect on him it would come through on his many fitness tests.
 

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The suggestion of him being affected post Covid is trying to find a reason he appears to be a shadow of his best. In early 2020 he appeared to be able to cut in on his left foot and find the top corner from 25 yards. We all want to see that confident BM back, but 9 months on his own self belief doesn’t seem to be there not in 1 game or 2 but in the 10 so far this season and the games post lockdown.
We don’t want to give up on him at all, but playing through it and his old self returning doesn’t appear to be happening. Should he drop to the bench or be tried on the left, I dont know. His assists are still ticking over, which is great and maybe the partnership between him and IT just needs a little more time to grow fully.
 

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He's the best wide attacker we've got so far this season. If the result of his actions leads to goals, whether scored himself, as assists, as key passes or just diverting the attention of defenders, then he has to be considered a starter. What other players might do but have not yet done is just speculative and down to the judgement of the coaching staff.
 

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As an attacking player it's easier to make an
Last night he was marked by Jacob Sorensen who was having his first game for Norwich and was only playing because their LB got injured in the warmup.
In 19/20 playing for Esbjerg in Denmark he played 23 league games in centre midfield.
Wouldnt we have hoped for a far better display from BM in this situation.

Could have joined us according to The Athletic
 

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no pre-match tweet from Bryan that I can see so maybe people have got their wish and he's on the bench? Either that or he's given up on social media for obvious reasons..
 

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Remember Mbuemo the first month here? He looked like he couldn't control the ball.
This. I was stunned that this was a reported £6M purchase. Fortunately, I had faith that we have good people running things and by and large, they're getting things right.
 

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Bryan Mbeumo assisted four of Ollie Watkins' 26 goals in the Championship last season. He's already assisted four of Ivan Toney's nine goals in the Championship this season.
 

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looked very good at times today.. getting back on it and how many assists is that? Wait until he hits top gear!
 

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