Clayton Donaldson

[favershambee]

I'm sorry based on Clayton's goal scoring record count me as one of the three votes for Clayton. However, long term I do feel that Gray has more potential.

I tell you what then, if you asked 10 Brentford fans who they would rather have upfront out of Donaldson or Gray I would say 7 would say Gray.

 

[Owlsmoor_Bee]

Anyway not wanting an argument over it, time will tell who got the better deal Birmingham or Brentford.

That isn't the point that's drawn amusement though is it. It's your total writing off his contribution during his time here that's so hilariously ridiculous. Crap players don't score 20 goals in consecutive seasons I'm afraid. The stats just make you look silly.

 

[buzzybees]

I doubt it and I'd say both please.

You could do a poll on here maybe?

 

[mundee4england]

That isn't the point that's drawn amusement though is it. It's your total writing off his contribution during his time here that's so hilariously ridiculous. Crap players don't score 20 goals in consecutive seasons I'm afraid. The stats just make you look silly.

Precisely! Sometimes people make a point in a 'debate' that destroys their entire argument without the need for a response.

 

[buzzybees]

That isn't the point that's drawn amusement though is it. It's your total writing off his contribution during his time here that's so hilariously ridiculous. Crap players don't score 20 goals in consecutive seasons I'm afraid. The stats just make you look silly.

He's not as good as people think, believe me. I wouldn't say I totally wrote him off tbh.

 

[buzzybees]

Precisely! Sometimes people make a point in a 'debate' that destroys their entire argument without the need for a response.

That must be why you responded then?

 

[mundee4england]

That must be why you responded then?

I didn't, I laughed!

 

[buzzybees]

I didn't, I laughed!

OK then.

 

[buzzybees]

Don't think he got 20 goals last season, maybe some Clayton fans could enlighten me?

 

[mundee4england]

Don't think he got 20 goals last season, maybe some Clayton fans could enlighten me?

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[N16Bee]

Brummie lot on train back to Waterloo seemed to think that taking him off had cost them points.

 

[BeeHomeSoon]

He's not as good as people think, believe me. I wouldn't say I totally wrote him off tbh.

Andre, come on, pack it in fella. x

 

[JumboJet]

If you booed him whatsoever you need to have a massive reality check.

What a ****ing joke.

He's an ex-player trying to score against us, are the kids meant to clap and cheer him on, or are they allowed to boo good naturedly???!

What an ****ing joke.

 

[Adam]

If you booed him whatsoever you need to have a massive reality check.

What a ****ing joke.

If you're getting worked up about a bit of booing it's you who needs a 'massive' reality check precious.

 

[badgerbee]

He's an ex-player trying to score against us, are the kids meant to clap and cheer him on, or are they allowed to boo good naturedly???!

What an ****ing joke.

Agree.

Can't believe some in New Road gave him a standing ovation when he came off!!!!
By all means a bit of polite applause before the game but once he crosses the white line he's just another opposition pkayer trying to deny us points.......

 

[We are Bees]

Some people seem to have forgotten he plays for Birmingham now.

Good player for us.

Nothing wrong with giving him a bit of stick.

He wasn't a cheat when he was winning them soft pens for us.

 

[pompeybee]

Agree.

Can't believe some in New Road gave him a standing ovation when he came off!!!!
By all means a bit of polite applause before the game but once he crosses the white line he's just another opposition pkayer trying to deny us points.......

I think much of the applause was just to counteract the negativity he was getting from other quarters.

 

[blackcountry bee]

I booed and clapped at the same time (but the clapping was louder !)

 

[Brentford_till_die]

With the greatest respect I know a a lot about the gamae and I will tell you now that Clayton has and never will be a good player as long as he has a hole up his ar**! I genuinely mean that as well mate.

rofl if you honestly believe he wasn't good for us, then I'm sorry you know naff all.

 

[buzzybees]

rofl if you honestly believe he wasn't good for us, then I'm sorry you know naff all.

See how much we miss him this season then because if he was that good for us, wouldn't we notice him missing in the current side? because what I've seen so far it doesn't look to me that we are missing him much but you obviously disagree.

 

[Brentford_till_die]

See how much we miss him this season then because if he was that good for us, wouldn't we notice him missing in the current side? because what I've seen so far it doesn't look to me that we are missing him much but you obviously disagree.

Again different argument. If you fail to see he was a very important part of the jigsaw the previous 3 years you know nothing. I'm talking about the past, not that we are missing him now. I was gutted he didn't sign for us but moved on, I'm happy with what we have.

 

[buzzybees]

Again different argument. If you fail to see he was a very important part of the jigsaw the previous 3 years you know nothing. I'm talking about the past, not that we are missing him now. I was gutted he didn't sign for us but moved on, I'm happy with what we have.

Of course he played his part but the way people go on about him you would think he's world class, we have moved on since Clayton but a lot cannot see it, astounds me. I'm very happy with what we have as well.

 

[Tom the bee]

If you're getting worked up about a bit of booing it's you who needs a 'massive' reality check precious.

If it's unjustifiable and without reason I think there is a good reason to question why people booed today

m8

 

[Les Beeavinu]

we have moved on since Clayton but a lot cannot see it, astounds me.

The club were very, very keen to keep him (and thought that he was going to re-sign) and I can see why - he's a very good forward. People might choose not to clap an opposition player but boo Clayton? Nah, not for me.

 

[buzzybees]

The club were very, very keen to keep him (and thought that he was going to re-sign) and I can see why - he's a very good forward. People might choose not to clap an opposition player but boo Clayton? Nah, not for me.

It's your opinion mate.

 

[buzzybees]

When you say very good forward, do you mean at league one level?

 

[Les Beeavinu]

It's your opinion mate.

It's not an opinion that the club were very, very keen to keep him.

 

[buzzybees]

It's not my opinion that the club were very, very keen to keep him.

I must of missed that, just like I missed all of his Lionel Messi impersonations.

 

[Salford Bee]

With the greatest respect I know a a lot about the gamae and I will tell you now that Clayton has and never will be a good player as long as he has a hole up his ar**! I genuinely mean that as well mate.

Oh the irony. I wish we had more of these poor players that score a goal every three games.

 

[buzzybees]

Oh the irony. I wish we had more of these poor players that score a goal every three games.

Yeah that sort would get 1 in 5 in the Championship.

 

[buzzybees]

Maybe 1 in 6.

 

[Tom the bee]

We'll never know, but at L1 he certainly proved his worth and to demean him and call him sub-par after netting over 15 goals for us last season isn't OK

 

[mundee4england]

Yeah that sort would get 1 in 5 in the Championship.

I'd probably take that alongside his all round contribution!

 

[bobinman]

'Some of us in the New Road" applauded Clayton - Yes - to counteract the pathetic boos and to acknowledge that without his goals, tireless work rate and contribution to the team we simply would not be in the Championship now!! He went to Brum in much the same way we got him from Crewe!

 

[Salford Bee]

Yeah that sort would get 1 in 5 in the Championship.

Bring back Fola Onibuje, Clyde Wijnhard and Neil Shipperley!

 

[Salford Bee]

I'd probably take that alongside his all round contribution!

So would I.

 

[Tom the bee]

Bring back Fola Onibuje, Clyde Wijnhard and Neil Shipperley!

Callum Willock and Clinton Morrison would like a word.

 

[bobinman]

"I know a lot about the game"

Not from where I - and several others - are standing mate!

 

[Tom the bee]

"I know a lot about the game"

Not from where I - and several others - are standing mate!

..............I usually sit when i'm at my PC...........

 

[Les Beeavinu]

With the greatest respect I know a a lot about the gamae and I will tell you now that Clayton has and never will be a good player as long as he has a hole up his ar**! I genuinely mean that as well mate.

The most condescending post of the day. Make that the season. Owlsmoor_Bee only goes to matches up and down the country every season to look at players legs. FACT.

 

[Owlsmoor_Bee]

When you say very good forward, do you mean at league one level?

Oh I sense a distinct bit of hasty backtracking here You stated that he was "normally poor" when he played for us and that "he'd never be a good player whilst he had a hole in his a*se and yet now you seem to be on the verge of acknowledging his rather positive contribution to our time in League 1.

As Les has pointed out, if he was anywhere near as poor as you say, the Club wouldn't have tried as hard as they did to keep him would they ?

 

[Salford Bee]

Callum Willock and Clinton Morrison would like a word.

I liked Willock. He was poor for us but you felt he was trying at the very least and scored a few goals for us.

 

[Adam]

If it's unjustifiable and without reason I think there is a good reason to question why people booed today

m8

Yeah couldn't agree more. Not like he left for a rival team in the same division after stating he wanted to stay, made comments that wernt exactly glowing about his time here, and then went down easy for a pen on his return?

m8

 

[Owlsmoor_Bee]

The most condescending post of the day. Make that the season. Owlsmoor_Bee only goes to matches up and down the country every season to look at players legs. FACT.

I've been outed :blush

 

[Les Beeavinu]

I've just found a reason not to boo Clayton!!!!! :bound:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wPNrATYdglw

 

[Tom the bee]

Not like he left for a rival team in the same division after stating he wanted to stay

m8

Transfers are not atypical of football.

made comments that wernt exactly glowing about his time here

m8

I read his interview. No digs were made at us as a club and thus booing isn't warranted for him saying "it was the right time to move on".....

and then went down easy for a pen on his return?

m8

He's done that with us against other teams before, and to expect him to give us concessions just because he used to play for us is unrealistic. Besides, booes were present prior to the penalty.



I don't think he deserves this level of harshness Adam.

 

[mundee4england]

Transfers are not atypical of football.



I read his interview. No digs were made at us as a club and thus booing isn't warranted for him saying "it was the right time to move on".....



He's done that with us against other teams before, and to expect him to give us concessions just because he used to play for us is unrealistic. Besides, booes were present prior to the penalty.



I don't think he deserves this level of harshness Adam.

Good post.

I loved Clayton when he was with us and his contribution cannot be underestimated but his contract with his current employer ended and he chose to take employment with a new employer. Regardless of what he was offered etc that is **** all to do with us, people get too attached to the romance that footballers are like fans, they are not, they are employees and if out of contract have no allegiance to the club. It's not like we paid him through years of injury or tolerated sh*t form.... he gave us everything he had for three years and barely missed a game, whilst I would have loved him to stay and feel he could have conducted himself slightly better as part of his exit that would have been a bonus rather than an requirement and he didn't do anything 'wrong'.

I clapped him before the game and when he went off, during the game I wanted him to have a mare. He conducted himself well and accepted the applause and boos gracefully whilst also having a fairly average game.

Job done, he is now just another player in our league.

 

[Adam]

Transfers are not atypical of football.



I read his interview. No digs were made at us as a club and thus booing isn't warranted for him saying "it was the right time to move on".....



He's done that with us against other teams before, and to expect him to give us concessions just because he used to play for us is unrealistic. Besides, booes were present prior to the penalty.



I don't think he deserves this level of harshness Adam.

It was some ****ing booing. Jesus how sheltered must some peoples lives be to get upset over it!?!?! lol lol lol

Bet you booed Rowlands!

 

[The H]

i don't post very much nowadays. I did not boo or applaud Clayton at any time during 'stadiumtime'... My thoughts are, why are you booing someone who gave 3 years to the club and promotion, if you don't want to clap him, do nothing.... that's what I did.

Moses is 3 times the player...

 

[steve.bees89]

I've just found a reason not to boo Clayton!!!!! :bound:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wPNrATYdglw

I don't think I'll ever forget that goal.