Club Statement on Racist Video

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Don't let him back in the ground..................oh, hang on.
 

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Are we assuming it was a male?
 

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I’ve seen the video - it’s appalling.

And it involves a fan who was involved in the farewell tours.
 

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A lot of peoples internal thoughts have surfaced during the BLM protests...shows why the movement is needed.

Saw someone reply on the Facebook post asking if it's ok to be a working class white guy going to the games, I don't understand that mentality of acting like the victim there. It's not about you! If you got offended at any of the taking the knee gestures, that says more about you than anyone else. I was personally proud to see football taking that on in a meaningful way.
 

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The clip is appalling.. seems as this individual had also been convicted of a football hooligan offence as well which was known prior to his employment in the farewell tours. Hope the club takes decisive and appropriate action..
 

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Jon Varney hired him? Really?
 

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I’m not defending what he said at all here. But before the character assassination starts please remember that there is a person behind the story, someone who has struggled with mental health as well, people sometimes say things they instantly regret, sadly in the days of social media and trial by the mob, mistakes and errors of judgement can follow you around for a long time.
 

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A rather unpleasant video and thing to say....I'm not sure the club's reach extends to outside the ground though surely ?
 

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A rather unpleasant video and thing to say....I'm not sure the club's reach extends to outside the ground though surely ?
Pretty sure the club has the right to refuse admission/ticket sales to anyone it wants. And I believe there may be another complicating factor here...
 

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I've not seen the video. Didn't know there was one in circulation. Clearly been dealt with quickly.
Same here. I can imagine the content from what has been said above.
 

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I’m not defending what he said at all here. But before the character assassination starts please remember that there is a person behind the story, someone who has struggled with mental health as well, people sometimes say things they instantly regret, sadly in the days of social media and trial by the mob, mistakes and errors of judgement can follow you around for a long time.
IF its who my mind has gone to he has worked damn hard to rebuild.himself
 

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I’m not defending what he said at all here. But before the character assassination starts please remember that there is a person behind the story, someone who has struggled with mental health as well, people sometimes say things they instantly regret, sadly in the days of social media and trial by the mob, mistakes and errors of judgement can follow you around for a long time.
If it’s the same video I saw yesterday he said the ‘N’ word in a very aggressive manner. So the person behind the story in my eyes is a racist. Found it repulsive especially with the high number of black players we have had at the club over the years.

People always regret things when they are caught.
This isn’t a trial by a mob and the the club have made their zero tolerance policy clear.
Hope he can reflect and appreciate the diversity not only the fan base but the players that put on a red and white shirt.
 

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Why not name the idiot and just ban him from home matches,unfortunately difficult to do at away games.
 

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If it’s the same video I saw yesterday he said the ‘N’ word in a very aggressive manner. So the person behind the story in my eyes is a racist. Found it repulsive especially with the high number of black players we have had at the club over the years.

People always regret things when they are caught.
This isn’t a trial by a mob and the the club have made their zero tolerance policy clear.
Hope he can reflect and appreciate the diversity not only the fan base but the players that put on a red and white shirt.
Agreed. And it sounds like someone is getting in their excuses early. Was staggered to see him working on the tours given his history. I wish I could say I was surprised to hear what he was saying on the video too, which the most vile racist words I can imagine anyone using.

As for the excuse of "saying things when you're drunk", you are entirely responsible for your actions when drunk. Such as drunk-driving, or GBH etc. It's no excuse. But alcohol does lower one's inhibitions doesn't it.
 
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If it’s the same video I saw yesterday he said the ‘N’ word in a very aggressive manner. So the person behind the story in my eyes is a racist. Found it repulsive especially with the high number of black players we have had at the club over the years.

People always regret things when they are caught.
This isn’t a trial by a mob and the the club have made their zero tolerance policy clear.
Hope he can reflect and appreciate the diversity not only the fan base but the players that put on a red and white shirt.
Completely agree.. swift and decisive action needed
 

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I take it the Video is a recent one ... not something surfaced from a past life?
Regardless, good that the club are open and upfront about it.
Let's hope they are also transparent with the outcome of their investigation.
If the person is guilty, need to make it public. A quiet under-the-carpet ban does nobody any favours.
 

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I take it the Video is a recent one ... not something surfaced from a past life?
Regardless, good that the club are open and upfront about it.
Let's hope they are also transparent with the outcome of their investigation.
If the person is guilty, need to make it public. A quiet under-the-carpet ban does nobody any favours.
The video is clearly very recent as a Brentford FC Covid Mask was being worn, but removed for the nasty words.

I agree that the outcome needs to be transparent so that people know how seriously (or not) the club are taking egregious acts such as this.
 

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Agreed. And it sounds like someone is getting in their excuses early. Was staggered to see him working on the tours given his history. I wish I could say I was surprised to hear what he was saying on the video too, which the most vile racist words I can imagine anyone using.

As for the excuse of "saying things when you're drunk", you are entirely responsible for your actions when drunk. Such as drunk-driving, or GBH etc. It's no excuse. But alcohol does lower one's inhibitions doesn't it.
We’ve all said and done silly things when we’re drunk that we wouldn’t when we were sober, however, they tend to be dancing enthusiastically, maybe flirting clumsily or even speaking home truths to someone who’s irritated or annoyed us...being drunk does not make someone shout and sneer racist slurs if it’s not something that’s harboured somewhere in their mind already.

The first two utterances in the video are things a number of bees fans may do when drunk and a little over exuberant, the third and racist bit is not and is indefensible.
 

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Why not name the idiot and just ban him from home matches,unfortunately difficult to do at away games.
You say it's harder to do at away games.

If the league are adamant and determined to eradicate it, maybe they should come up with a "register" of anyone banned for racial, discriminatory or sexist from one gets banned from all.
If pubs can do it locally in their neighbourhood scheme thing, then football clubs can.
It is very hard to manage, don't get me wrong (ie Joe Bloggs buys ticket for banned mate at away games and away stewards don't know who they are etc), but if they all club together something could be done.
 

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I’m not defending what he said at all here. But before the character assassination starts please remember that there is a person behind the story, someone who has struggled with mental health as well, people sometimes say things they instantly regret, sadly in the days of social media and trial by the mob, mistakes and errors of judgement can follow you around for a long time.
General question here... is the mental health "card" above or below the race "card" :unsure:

I'm not a fan of trial by social media.... but his names is out on there and he'll just have to accept the consequences and hope it doesn't have any long term impact.

Maybe he could volunteer to attend a session by "kick it out"
 

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General question here... is the mental health "card" above or below the race "card" :unsure:
People can see someone has mental health issues and then it's up to individuals to decide if that is, or isn't, enough to excuse behaviour. It's not a "mental health is more important than race" or "race is more important than mental health" hierarchy.

If someone comes out and apologises I think it's a different animal entirely, but people are still more than justified in not accepting an apology, no matter the extenuating circumstances.
 

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As appalling as this is I would like to know who was recording this and what was their intentions and who put it out there.Looks like he was set up.
you would assume that whoever recorded it sent it to someone else not expecting it to appear on social media and they sent it on to someone who sent it on etc etc
 

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As appalling as this is I would like to know who was recording this and what was their intentions and who put it out there.Looks like he was set up.
You might be right Bill. Having said that, to know the name of the QPR chap referenced, I assume it was another Bee who was familiar with Rangers mob and therefore a mate of the individual who was the star of the video.
 

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As appalling as this is I would like to know who was recording this and what was their intentions and who put it out there.Looks like he was set up.
No idea why you think he was "set-up". It's not like it was some sort of elaborate trap by an in character Sacha Baron Cohen for his latest film. He was asked some straightforward questions, which he answered. What happened to the video afterwards is not relevant either. If the video was never taken, or never shared, he still said what he said.
 

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No idea why you think he was "set-up". It's not like it was some sort of elaborate trap by an in character Sacha Baron Cohen for his latest film. He was asked some straightforward questions, which he answered. What happened to the video afterwards is not relevant either. If the video was never taken, or never shared, he still said what he said.
Without the the video you wouldn’t be discussing this now.
 

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No idea why you think he was "set-up". It's not like it was some sort of elaborate trap by an in character Sacha Baron Cohen for his latest film. He was asked some straightforward questions, which he answered. What happened to the video afterwards is not relevant either. If the video was never taken, or never shared, he still said what he said.
100% set up. Not condoning what he said at all, you cannot get away with that language in this day and age and he will pay the consequences. Some on other groups are already digging out his partner who has nothing whatsoever to do with this episode.
 
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As appalling as this is I would like to know who was recording this and what was their intentions and who put it out there.Looks like he was set up.
Cant see the point behind that BB.
 

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Regardless of who asked the questions, who filmed it and who shared it, someone has made racist comments whilst being identifiable as a Brentford fan. The club has made it clear that it will issue bans in these situations and has the right and responsibility to do so.
 

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I haven’t seen the video in question so please excuse my ignorance but what’s the basis upon which the club decided to make a statement? Is it because the person was wearing a Brentford FC branded mask? Normally such statements are reserved for employees or incidents that take place at a match etc.
 
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I haven’t seen the video in question so please excuse my ignorance but what’s the basis upon which the club decided to make a statement? Is it because the person was wearing a Brentford FC branded mask? Normally such statements are reserved for employees or incidents that take place at a match etc.
I suppose because the branding links the video to the club? Plus they were involved in the tours etc as was posted above.
 

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I haven’t seen the video in question so please excuse my ignorance but what’s the basis upon which the club decided to make a statement? Is it because the person was wearing a Brentford FC branded mask? Normally such statements are reserved for employees or incidents that take place at a match etc.
Probably because of all the above. Plus the fact the act itself is so egregious that it demands some sort of action from the club who can refuse admission to anyone.
 

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