Covid and the future of games (6 Viewers)

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Throw the book at them. Incredibly selfish

... We all know how this will play out. Contrite Ora-esque Twitter posts saying “Oops, I’m so sorry [I got caught]” followed by fines. The thing that never ceases to amaze me - given that the actual offences no longer do - is the stupidity in allowing photos to be taken 😱. Still, three Spurs players who won’t be available on Tuesday 😊
 

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... We all know how this will play out. Contrite Ora-esque Twitter posts saying “Oops, I’m so sorry [I got caught]” followed by fines. The thing that never ceases to amaze me - given that the actual offences no longer do - is the stupidity in allowing photos to be taken 😱. Still, three Spurs players who won’t be available on Tuesday 😊
Reguillon on the bench today. Unbelievable.
 

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A spokesperson for Tottenham said: "We are extremely disappointed and strongly condemn this image showing some of our players with family and friends together at Christmas particularly as we know the sacrifices everybody around the country made to stay safe over the festive period.

How can they say they "strongly condemn it "'and put him on the bench?
 

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A spokesperson for Tottenham said: "We are extremely disappointed and strongly condemn this image showing some of our players with family and friends together at Christmas particularly as we know the sacrifices everybody around the country made to stay safe over the festive period.

How can they say they "strongly condemn it "'and put him on the bench?
Surely even the useless sweet FA will charge them with bringing the game into disrepute. Oh, hang on....
 

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Am I right that Monday is the first round of mandatory testing for EFL clubs for quite a while?

From a selfish perspective I’m slightly concerned about what that might mean for us is when we get the results ahead of the Spurs game.
 

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Just saw Matt Rhead very animated in breaking up a goal celebration even tho he made it. He had a go at one of his own for throwing arms around him too. Some belated thinking here.
 

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Bit more here about EFL protocols being revised (from The Guardian):

The postponements came after updated coronavirus protocols were emailed to all clubs by the EFL.

Players must arrive for training sessions in their kit, while indoor facilities including changing rooms and canteens must be closed, gymnasiums and other indoor areas used only if well ventilated, and clubs have been asked to consider using separate or multiple vehicles to travel to fixtures.

The measures essentially revert to steps taken upon the outbreak of the virus and clubs face an increased risk of being sanctioned if found to be in breach of the guidelines.
 

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... We all know how this will play out. Contrite Ora-esque Twitter posts saying “Oops, I’m so sorry [I got caught]” followed by fines. The thing that never ceases to amaze me - given that the actual offences no longer do - is the stupidity in allowing photos to be taken 😱. Still, three Spurs players who won’t be available on Tuesday 😊
Agree with all your points.
In today’s papers:
Lamela ‘I want to apologise....on reflection I understand the seriousness of my actions....I feel ashamed knowing I’ve let people down’
Lo Celso ‘I want to apologise....I understand the great sacrifices people are making....’
Lanzini ‘ I want to apologise for a big mistake I made....I know people have been making difficult sacrifices...’
These are a not spur of the moment errors of judgement in the heat of the moment. These are well planned events where conscious decisions have been made with all the known facts and context being very clear.

A more honest statement may have been ‘ I’m really sorry that one of my friends was stupid enough to circulate a photo of our Christmas bash that we arranged as we thought it was more important for us to have some fun even if it meant breaking the silly rules and also putting at risk other people in our workplace and possibly lead to the cancellation of football matches that thousands of ordinary people look forward to as just about the only distraction from their sad lockdown in their poky little houses and flats’
 

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Agree with all your points.
In today’s papers:
Lamela ‘I want to apologise....on reflection I understand the seriousness of my actions....I feel ashamed knowing I’ve let people down’
Lo Celso ‘I want to apologise....I understand the great sacrifices people are making....’
Lanzini ‘ I want to apologise for a big mistake I made....I know people have been making difficult sacrifices...’
These are a not spur of the moment errors of judgement in the heat of the moment. These are well planned events where conscious decisions have been made with all the known facts and context being very clear.

A more honest statement may have been ‘ I’m really sorry that one of my friends was stupid enough to circulate a photo of our Christmas bash that we arranged as we thought it was more important for us to have some fun even if it meant breaking the silly rules and also putting at risk other people in our workplace and possibly lead to the cancellation of football matches that thousands of ordinary people look forward to as just about the only distraction from their sad lockdown in their poky little houses and flats’
Very true and the statements issued in no way look like they were done by a PR consultant
 

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Agree with all your points.
In today’s papers:
Lamela ‘I want to apologise....on reflection I understand the seriousness of my actions....I feel ashamed knowing I’ve let people down’
Lo Celso ‘I want to apologise....I understand the great sacrifices people are making....’
Lanzini ‘ I want to apologise for a big mistake I made....I know people have been making difficult sacrifices...’
These are a not spur of the moment errors of judgement in the heat of the moment. These are well planned events where conscious decisions have been made with all the known facts and context being very clear.

A more honest statement may have been ‘ I’m really sorry that one of my friends was stupid enough to circulate a photo of our Christmas bash that we arranged as we thought it was more important for us to have some fun even if it meant breaking the silly rules and also putting at risk other people in our workplace and possibly lead to the cancellation of football matches that thousands of ordinary people look forward to as just about the only distraction from their sad lockdown in their poky little houses and flats’
A song by Rihanna springs to mind. Can’t remember the title but the lyrics included a line words to the effect of “Don’t say that you are sorry coz you’re not, you are just sorry you got caught”
 

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Quest were saying that all EFL clubs will be tested twice a week now - if correct could it mean more games postponed and a higher risk of the lower leagues struggling to finish.
 

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Man City seem to be doing ok even with all their covid cases....
 

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Agree with all your points.
In today’s papers:
Lamela ‘I want to apologise....on reflection I understand the seriousness of my actions....I feel ashamed knowing I’ve let people down’
Lo Celso ‘I want to apologise....I understand the great sacrifices people are making....’
Lanzini ‘ I want to apologise for a big mistake I made....I know people have been making difficult sacrifices...’
These are a not spur of the moment errors of judgement in the heat of the moment. These are well planned events where conscious decisions have been made with all the known facts and context being very clear.

A more honest statement may have been ‘ I’m really sorry that one of my friends was stupid enough to circulate a photo of our Christmas bash that we arranged as we thought it was more important for us to have some fun even if it meant breaking the silly rules and also putting at risk other people in our workplace and possibly lead to the cancellation of football matches that thousands of ordinary people look forward to as just about the only distraction from their sad lockdown in their poky little houses and flats’
Those who are caught will have been told by their clubs to issue these types if statement. Possibly even issued them purporting to be the player... .
 

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So Afc Wimbledon v Wigan was postponed for Covid at Afc Wimbledon in November

Now Afc Wimbledon v Wigan has been postponed again for Covid at Wigan in January
 

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I did write this on another thread, which was the wrong one. There is every chance that this season will not finish. We are experiencing the same issues as last March, but 2 months earlier and much sooner in the season in terms of games played. I ask the question whether there will be any appetite to delay the end of this season and have the same knock on effect to the 21-22 season? This COVID thing is not going away any time soon, even with vaccines. The number of postponements starting to build up across all divisions is likely to lead to some tough decisions in the very near future. Quite what will be left afterwards remains to be seen, but it will not be a 92 team Premier/ EFL set-up. Any thoughts?
 

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I did write this on another thread, which was the wrong one. There is every chance that this season will not finish. We are experiencing the same issues as last March, but 2 months earlier and much sooner in the season in terms of games played. I ask the question whether there will be any appetite to delay the end of this season and have the same knock on effect to the 21-22 season? This COVID thing is not going away any time soon, even with vaccines. The number of postponements starting to build up across all divisions is likely to lead to some tough decisions in the very near future. Quite what will be left afterwards remains to be seen, but it will not be a 92 team Premier/ EFL set-up. Any thoughts?
the prem and champ will carry on i reckon. No reason why not if they are getting tested twice a week.
Hopefully leagues 1 and 2 can get proper testing in place.
 

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After Boris announces a national lockdown tonight I reckon tomorrow night will be called off and all forthcoming fixtures until an improvement in the R rating.
 

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After Boris announces a national lockdown tonight I reckon tomorrow night will be called off and all forthcoming fixtures until an improvement in the R rating.
Strongly doubt it.
We will see.
 

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After Boris announces a national lockdown tonight I reckon tomorrow night will be called off and all forthcoming fixtures until an improvement in the R rating.
better fecking not stop the football , we need SOMETHING.

Tier 5 hopefully ?
 

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I did write this on another thread, which was the wrong one. There is every chance that this season will not finish. We are experiencing the same issues as last March, but 2 months earlier and much sooner in the season in terms of games played. I ask the question whether there will be any appetite to delay the end of this season and have the same knock on effect to the 21-22 season? This COVID thing is not going away any time soon, even with vaccines. The number of postponements starting to build up across all divisions is likely to lead to some tough decisions in the very near future. Quite what will be left afterwards remains to be seen, but it will not be a 92 team Premier/ EFL set-up. Any thoughts?
Been hearing this for nine months and no League teams gone to the wall yet
 

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Been hearing this for nine months and no League teams gone to the wall yet
Yes, I really hope you are right and it doesn't happen. Sadly the longer it goes on, the more likely it is and I don't know, but would suspect that several clubs are getting really close now. The problem is that if it is the banks holding the debt, given that the problems at each club are likely to be very similar, once one goes others may follow quickly. I cannot see how clubs can survive for over a year with no income, possibly up to 18 months+. The Furlough scheme cannot carry on much longer and I can really see this disruption lasting at least until the end of this season and maybe into the start of next. It's impossible for there to be no effects, financially. Having said all I really hope i'm wrong.
 

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Parliament is being recalled on Weds
So the changes will need to be voted before they get imposed

Game ON Tuesday then...
 

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better fecking not stop the football , we need SOMETHING.

Tier 5 hopefully ?
Have a feeling that full lockdown is very much on the cards and if it does come then quite frankly I can’t see how their can be any justification for football, particularly as we have all seen how various players seem oblivious of the rules. If the players had kept to the rules then arguments could be put forward regarding the well-being of the Nation by having sport to enjoy however the selfishness of a few probably puts the argument out of the window.

Very annoying for sports fans but if a total lock down can give us some control over the virus then the short term pain will be worth while
 

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Have a feeling that full lockdown is very much on the cards and if it does come then quite frankly I can’t see how their can be any justification for football, particularly as we have all seen how various players seem oblivious of the rules. If the players had kept to the rules then arguments could be put forward regarding the well-being of the Nation by having sport to enjoy however the selfishness of a few probably puts the argument out of the window.

Very annoying for sports fans but if a total lock down can give us some control over the virus then the short term pain will be worth while
not if it costs us promotion :eek:
 

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Football was suspended last time before lockdown started.
 

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Scotland have gone full lockdown, although believe their football still going ahead?
 

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Parliament is being recalled on Weds
So the changes will need to be voted before they get imposed

Game ON Tuesday then...
Can't they vote by Zoom, everyone else has to adapt. Why delay stuff, delaying stuff has already caused mayhem.
 

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I'm puzzled that so many footballers are even testing positive at all, if they're staying within the "bubble" of their club. They don't need to see anyone outside of that and shouldn't be travelling to anywhere other than home/training ground/stadium. Anyone testing positive should be asked to explain themselves!
 

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I'm puzzled that so many footballers are even testing positive at all, if they're staying within the "bubble" of their club. They don't need to see anyone outside of that and shouldn't be travelling to anywhere other than home/training ground/stadium. Anyone testing positive should be asked to explain themselves!
I think they're probably still allowed to see their family! Who will be going to the supermarket, gym, school etc. You can't keep a bubble like they did for the cricket for the whole football season.
 

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Have a feeling that full lockdown is very much on the cards and if it does come then quite frankly I can’t see how their can be any justification for football, particularly as we have all seen how various players seem oblivious of the rules. If the players had kept to the rules then arguments could be put forward regarding the well-being of the Nation by having sport to enjoy however the selfishness of a few probably puts the argument out of the window.

Very annoying for sports fans but if a total lock down can give us some control over the virus then the short term pain will be worth while
The vast majority of footballers have been abiding by the rules just a selfish minority.

I expect a national lockdown but can see Premiership and at least Championship being able to continue playing. The big difference with the first lockdown is that the majority of the leagues in Europe were suspended. I don’t see this happening this time.
 

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Currently no impact on Scottish sports, they've also announced a nationwide lockdown. Could be promising for elite aspects in England.

 

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Football was suspended last time before lockdown started.
Since that times though football has well established Covid procedures, probably better than any organisation outside of the NHS.
 

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And elite sport in England is also not expected to be affected by the new lockdown that Johnson will unveil later this evening.

Whitehall sources have told Sportsmail they expect professional football matches to continue behind closed doors.

Looks like sport will continue for now .
 

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...i'm just getting very emotional at the number of rangers jerseys i'm seeing on this thread....thanks GPG....means a lot.
 

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Parliament is being recalled on Weds
So the changes will need to be voted before they get imposed

Game ON Tuesday then...
They don't need to vote on this. It has to be considered by delegated legislation within 28 days of implementation. The vote on Wednesday will be an expression of opinion unless it has been decided that legislation is necessary which is unlikely. They require Parliament to be unified behind the changes which makes sense.
 

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the prem and champ will carry on i reckon. No reason why not if they are getting tested twice a week.
Hopefully leagues 1 and 2 can get proper testing in place.
Championship Clubs don’t get tested. Only Premier League.
 

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Championship Clubs don’t get tested. Only Premier League.
EFL introduced tests twice per week 2 days ago. I could link the Daily Telegraph but it is behind the paywall or most regional newspapers also have it
 

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