Ground Share if we reach Premiership before LR

[Gee Bee]

Would we get priority use of Wembley though as required by the Premier League. Come to that could we get priority use of any of these grounds?

Sorry England you can't play today, the Bees have a match on... lol

When England play there are no premier games. Hence this weekend being boring.

 

[PhilE]

When England play there are no premier games. Hence this weekend being boring.

True - but I guess there are always other events e.g. NFL games which would then have to play second fiddle.

Its not just the event day - it's the set-up / remarking of pitch / concert set up etc. you need to factor in.

 

[Guildford Bee]

True - but I guess there are always other events e.g. NFL games which would then have to play second fiddle.

The Wembley NFL games are always a Sunday.

 

[maxcavellera]

Hayes and Yeadings ground should be completed by then ...

 

[kevalutonbee]

I'm sure we could come to some agreement that everyone is happy with. After all when Froch v Groves II was on at Wembley they had 14 hours to turn it from a soccer venue to a fight venue:xmas:

 

[PhilE]

The Wembley NFL games are always a Sunday.

But there is considerable set-up and I imagine the players use Wembley the day before - and of course PL play on a Sunday.

Have added Poll (just for fun - don't bite)

 

[bees66]

Simply reduce the capacity of Griffin Park if we get there to 8,000.

700" season ticket holders and 1000 away!!

We will make plenty of money and frankly I don't care of we get relegated!!

NO LEAVING GP UNTIL we have the keys to our new home!!

worse post on this thread so far..

 

[Banshee Mildew]

I think everyone needs a reality check.....we won't be in The Premier league in the foreseeable future.

 

[BURFORD BEE]

Don't know my grounds that well but presumably there must be at least one other Championship club with the same problem?
I cant see how it would be viable trying to bring GP up to standard for a season or two, even if it were possible which I don't believe it is . there are just too many obstacles.
The only acceptable option would be Chelsea. We don't have any history with them, have a good relationship according to MB and its reasonably accessible to most Bees fans. The Old Bill would never allow Fulham or QPR. There would be crowd trouble every week and how would we stop their fans from getting tickets for the Bees end, if they were hellbent on doing it.
Personally I think the chances of it happening anyway are remote, certainly in the timescale we are looking at, although if things went really well just possibly we might tie in promotion with the move to Susan. Just in case I think we all need to start being real nice to Jose and the Russki!

 

[BURFORD BEE]

I think everyone needs a reality check.....we won't be in The Premier league in the foreseeable future.

Not that many years ago when Andy Scott replaced Butcher you could very well have said the same thing about us being in the Championship. The Conference looked a much more likely scenario and that was if we actually still had a club to support. Its a funny old world and an even funnier old game and you never know anything for sure.

 

[PhilE]

Again I have to say that I think the likelihood is low but by no means impossible (currently we are about 11-1).
However it is interesting to note from the link on the post some way back that ALL championship clubs have to make representation in January of each year to indicate how they would accommodate Premiership promotion - not wait until May. So the question is very much relevant for the club - what will they be saying to the powers that be? "Don't worry that's not going to happen, We don't have a plan"

 

[AB]

Don't know my grounds that well but presumably there must be at least one other Championship club with the same problem?
I cant see how it would be viable trying to bring GP up to standard for a season or two, even if it were possible which I don't believe it is . there are just too many obstacles.
The only acceptable option would be Chelsea. We don't have any history with them, have a good relationship according to MB and its reasonably accessible to most Bees fans. The Old Bill would never allow Fulham or QPR. There would be crowd trouble every week and how would we stop their fans from getting tickets for the Bees end, if they were hellbent on doing it.
Personally I think the chances of it happening anyway are remote, certainly in the timescale we are looking at, although if things went really well just possibly we might tie in promotion with the move to Susan. Just in case I think we all need to start being real nice to Jose and the Russki!

Would there be crowd trouble every week? Fulham managed to share Loftus Road for 2 seasons while both they and QPR were in the PL. They're rivals but I'd much rather get 15k-20k in Craven Cottage or Loftus Road and have a decent atmosphere than be in a more than half empty Stamford Bridge in what would be our best season since just after WWII.

 

[barry]

I think everyone needs a reality check.....we won't be in The Premier league in the foreseeable future.

Never say never, with Matthew in charge...

 

[nick logan]

I think everyone needs a reality check.....we won't be in The Premier league in the foreseeable future.

Define forseeable ??

anyway it was light hearted until the fun police arrived

 

[Artixbee]

We all know this is hypothetical, but if we were to go up before LR and forced to groundshare, as MB intimates:

. Watford and Reading are too far away. Not an option.
. Stamford Bridge and Wembley are too big for us. We would loose all 'home advantage' and be subject to Wigan-esque ridicule. Not an option.
. After what happened in 1967, there is no way we can go begging in the Bush for a groundshare.

. That by process of elimination, leaves Craven Cottage. Realistic captivity, and dare I say it, reasonable location. Not ideal but all alternatives are much worse.

 

[wanderer paul]

Wembley

A soulless bowl. No thanks. :yuck:

Out sung by the visiting supporters too, unless we can get a singing section sorted.....

 

[BURFORD BEE]

Would there be crowd trouble every week? Fulham managed to share Loftus Road for 2 seasons while both they and QPR were in the PL. They're rivals but I'd much rather get 15k-20k in Craven Cottage or Loftus Road and have a decent atmosphere than be in a more than half empty Stamford Bridge in what would be our best season since just after WWII.

Trouble is its not you and I and most of the rest its the few mindless idiots who just want to fight. Even ignoring that there are a good few others who would find it repugnant to consider either of those places as a home ground for a season, myself included I'm afraid where QPR are concerned. I, for one have never forgiven them for that episode in the sixties.

 

[BURFORD BEE]

Again I have to say that I think the likelihood is low but by no means impossible (currently we are about 11-1).
However it is interesting to note from the link on the post some way back that ALL championship clubs have to make representation in January of each year to indicate how they would accommodate Premiership promotion - not wait until May. So the question is very much relevant for the club - what will they be saying to the powers that be? "Don't worry that's not going to happen, We don't have a plan"

I saw that and thought the same thing. Presumably Yeovil would have had the same problem last season though.

 

[horshambees]

First game at Lionel Road could be a Champions league qualifier.

Or am I jumping the gun?

 

[Leicester Bee]

In the unlikely event of promotion, we could consider the
stoop (twickenham). Although the stadium holds just under 15,000 and I read somewhere that they have plans to increase to 20,000. I thought they were increasing capacity to over 17,000 for the rugby world cup next year.

That was going to be my suggestion also. I believe that they are interested in redeveloping their temporary stand, which only has a lifespan of 10 years. And it's local and not tarnished by being Fulham or QPR.

 

[steven martin]

What about sharing at fc Miidjtyland, it would certaimly be rent free.

 

[absenteebee]

If not Griffin Park, I'd like to see us play at Gunnersbury Park.

 

[ruislip bee]

If not Griffin Park, I'd like to see us play at Gunnersbury Park.

enough space for 4 enormous temporary stands. Changing rooms already there and some car park space. You know it makes sense---

 

[Humblebee]

First game at Lionel Road could be a Champions league qualifier.

Or am I jumping the gun?

Be careful. The humour and irony police are about again, as I found out earlier.

 

[wanderer paul]

That was going to be my suggestion also. I believe that they are interested in redeveloping their temporary stand, which only has a lifespan of 10 years. And it's local and not tarnished by being Fulham or QPR.

Highly unlikely to play football at The Stoop, due to LB Richmond and local residents not wanting football being played at either Twickenham or the Harlequins. They didn't want it when Noades was around and I doubt they've changed their minds since either.

 

[rebus]

Highly unlikely to play football at The Stoop, due to LB Richmond and local residents not wanting football being played at either Twickenham or the Harlequins. They didn't want it when Noades was around and I doubt they've changed their minds since either.

There's more chance of stock car racing at Lord's.


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[ruislip bee]

There's more chance of stock car racing at Lord's.


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plenty of room on the out-field

 

['Ayes B]

We are struggling to fill GP at the moment, much to my disgust and MB disappointment.

We are not struggling to fill GP. We are struggling to accommodate the larger number of away fans who want to attend. If GOD was big enough we could have had 12-14k gates for all of our home matches so far

 

[NorthamptonBee]

Northampton.

 

[north wilts bee]

I would take over QPR and buy their ground, then create an amalgamated team from the bees and the rangers then call it Brentford 1967 and when we relocate to our new super ground fill it with concrete and call it Asda.

 

[nanny58]

no way . wont go to loftus road or craven cottage so looks like more fishing until l/r is completed

 

[Guildford Bee]

Trouble is its not you and I and most of the rest its the few mindless idiots who just want to fight. Even ignoring that there are a good few others who would find it repugnant to consider either of those places as a home ground for a season, myself included I'm afraid where QPR are concerned. I, for one have never forgiven them for that episode in the sixties.

As has been pointed out already, Fulham played at least a season at Loftus Road with no problems. For me that would be the last resort but I could live with is playing at Craven Cottage for a season if it meant we were in the PL.

I used to always think I would be happy just to be a stable championship club like, for example, WBA were for years. For me that was the dream. But now I want to see us at the Nou Camp!

 

[Womble Bee]

Highly unlikely to play football at The Stoop, due to LB Richmond and local residents not wanting football being played at either Twickenham or the Harlequins. They didn't want it when Noades was around and I doubt they've changed their minds since either.

Think the Stoop would be the sensible option

 

[Guildford Bee]

Think the Stoop would be the sensible option

But it would never happen for the reasons pointed out in the post you quoted.

 

[Herbert]

Charlton and Watford are more local than Reading in terms of mileage I would think, possibly even West Ham.
My worry would be groundsharing and getting delay after delay in the new ground similar to Southend.

Charlton ! Fuuuuuck that.what a mission for a home game.
I don't think there'll be delays in building the ground,once we actually start it will be done as quick as.
Why happened to Southend ?

 

[Womble Bee]

But it would never happen for the reasons pointed out in the post you quoted.

Thanks for pointing that out

 

[hobbsy]

Charlton ! Fuuuuuck that.what a mission for a home game.
I don't think there'll be delays in building the ground,once we actually start it will be done as quick as.
Why happened to Southend ?

Southend had complicated negotiations with Tesco to release the land from Roots Hall to raise the capital to build the ground.

Other than the previously stated delays in starting the development we have no economical reason why we would have to ground share.

If we have to as a result of Premier League regs then that will be entirely of the PL's insistence and not the clubs.

 

[Vid]

None if this is necessary...Nick Knowles and the Big Build team together with Melinda Messenger will have Lionel road up and open during the close season....sorted.

 

[Guildford Bee]

Charlton ! Fuuuuuck that.what a mission for a home game.
I don't think there'll be delays in building the ground,once we actually start it will be done as quick as.
Why happened to Southend ?

Yes, but the point is IF (and we're obviously playing a hypothetical game) we were to go up this season or next we would not be able to play PL football at GP and LR would not be ready.

 

[kainiemi]

Clearly its too much hassle. Therefore we should play all games behind closed doors and just accept the sky money for finishing 20th. I sincerely hope we do not get into the top league before LR.

 

[TW3Bee]

If you are going SE London way, does The Valley fit the criteria?

Certainly easy to get too, by train anyway, from GP.

 

[The H]

if Wembley was good enough for Orient, it's certainly good enough for us...

 

[Full Metal Jacket]

Will this site become the LRG - or even the CCG?

 

[sonofabee]

It's not a problem as it ain't gonna happen but God forbid we get there ahead of schedule, reckon the bets covered.
Don't insult the owner, there's ways and means

 

[Gee Bee]

Charlton ! Fuuuuuck that.what a mission for a home game.
I don't think there'll be delays in building the ground,once we actually start it will be done as quick as.
Why happened to Southend ?

Southend have had planning for new ground Sainsbury own their current one. More than 5 years now and still not a brick laid. At some point Sainsbury will want their superstore built or their money back. Not the same as MB but building delays could see a groundshare last longer than anyone would want.

 

[Hullbee]

Brighton would be a good stop

 

[brentfordwannabee]

Would we get priority use of Wembley though as required by the Premier League. Come to that could we get priority use of any of these grounds?

Sorry England you can't play today, the Bees have a match on... lol

Dam sight more entertaining

 

[hobbsy]

Southend have had planning for new ground Sainsbury own their current one. More than 5 years now and still not a brick laid. At some point Sainsbury will want their superstore built or their money back. Not the same as MB but building delays could see a groundshare last longer than anyone would want.

Thanks, I knew it was some sort of supermarket.

 

[hanworthbee]

perhaps we can defer promotion until lr is ready.....

 

[twickersbee]

Selfishly, I'm all for the stoop!