Halil Dervişoğlu - (June 2024) - On loan to Galatasary until June 2021

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An interesting quote on FC Twente's web site regarding Halil's return:
Jan Streuer said:
If a player indicates that he would like to leave the club, then that is no problem if you can work it out together. Then it is a good solution for all parties. We want players who want to go for it 100% even in competition.
 

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I certainly want to see more of him, a year ago I was watching highlights of him playing for Sparta Rotterdam eager to see him in a Brentford shirt. However I was a little disappointed in what I saw, he seemed a little bit slow reacting to loose balls near him. Having thought about it since then, it was almost that he was playing on his heels rather than on his toes. I hope he quickly changes my opinion and becomes a player from the bench initially who can change a game.
There's a joke about clogs in there somewhere if you look hard enough.
 

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It will be interesting to see if we play him or if he is allowed to move to Turkey as has been rumoured in some circles ?
 

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Goal and assist on his first game back. Played generally, well too. Only 21, you feel there’s real high potential there.

Seemed to be on the cards he would leave (and maybe he still will in the summer) but he can contribute for the next few months, he has the quality. Just hope he’s not too frustrated with the high competition up front and his motivation stays high.
 

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Well done Halil. Impressive performance considering he’s only been with his team mates for a few days. I thought his work rate was very good which is something he needs to work on. Great assist and nice nice first time finish in a crowded box. I really hope he’s in our first team squad as I think we’ll need him.
 

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Well done Halil. Impressive performance considering he’s only been with his team mates for a few days. I thought his work rate was very good which is something he needs to work on. Great assist and nice nice first time finish in a crowded box. I really hope he’s in our first team squad as I think we’ll need him.
yes he did well. Except for that miss in the first half just before his goal. Really ran out of steam after 60 mins. But pleased for him. Hopefully he stays and fights for his place.... or that goal added a few hundred K onto his fee..
 
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Thought he was excellent, him and Fosu caused them a lot of problems. He dropped deep to link up with Ghoddos, took the goal well and a fantastic assist for the second. Think there's a lot more to come from him and hope we keep him here and play him now..
 

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I still don't think He has what it takes from what I've seen.. ..bit slow and not strong enough...
 

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I still don't think He has what it takes from what I've seen.. ..bit slow and not strong enough...
Needs more match time at Championship level to be considered a starter for league games. When on loan, wouldn't have had the intensity at the same level. However, another option off the bench, and get him more used to playing at our first team level.
 

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IHMO, he really gives us something different. He's not a starter from fully-available squad but the sort of player that can be brought on when oppositions defences have got the measure of our attack – he's not a like-for-like swap. He showed in glimpses yesterday that he has close control against a packed defence that could change a game. More minutes, particularly after a loan that didn't give him many, will give him more confidence, although he seems confident in his own ability anyway.
 

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Yeah thought he was understandably a bit rusty, but some good signs
 

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IHMO, he really gives us something different. He's not a starter from fully-available squad but the sort of player that can be brought on when oppositions defences have got the measure of our attack – he's not a like-for-like swap. He showed in glimpses yesterday that he has close control against a packed defence that could change a game. More minutes, particularly after a loan that didn't give him many, will give him more confidence, although he seems confident in his own ability anyway.
He’s a different sort of player to what we have and in his close control possibly gives us something we’ve missed from Said. I don’t know whether he’ll become as good as Said but he’s also a lot younger. I think he’s also got a bit of devilry in him which we’ve lacked since Neal left. For now an interesting bench option and you can see what the club saw in him.
 

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Was frustrating at times and missed a sitter but the technique for both goals was class. Wish he was a bit faster.
 

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It's easy to forget he's made only 9 appearances for us, totalling 314 minutes, which equates to just shy of 3 and a half full matches!

Equally easy to forget he joined us in Jan 2020 and had his season interrupted by both injury and lockdown. In fact, all three January signings (Baptiste, Dervisoglu and Fosu) have struggled to make an impact, Fosu only now starting to show more consistent form and he's the only one who hasn't been injured at all and is a lot older..
 

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Good in parts a great assist. Plenty to work with and needs to get fitter and stronger IMO
 

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Agree with this. Work rate nowhere near what it should be.
You’re not a fan of Eredivisie signings are you :rolleyes:

He got a goal and an assist yesterday.

Whoscored had him as the best player on the pitch for either team.

It was his first game back after very little football anywhere for several months.

Cut him some slack.
 
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Agree with this. Work rate nowhere near what it should be.
really? Thought he really put himself about. Certainly more than I’ve seen from him previously. It’s certainly the off the ball stuff that will define his career here but I thought yesterday was a step in the right direction..
 

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I think I've been spoilt With maupay ollie and now Ivan but halil and forss have a long way to go in the Work Hard area imo
 

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i dont think his work rate will be the issue for him, he just doesnt seem to excel in any department from what ive seen. Not quick or particulary physical, doesnt seem to have and tricks to beat his man. He may be a fox in the box type but we need more than that with the way we play
 

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You lot are crackers to have watched him yesterday and decided he’s not good at anything 😂
not saying he isnt good at anything but i just think the bar is higher than ever before and in the long run i cant see who he is going to displace in the team
 

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not saying he isnt good at anything but i just think the bar is higher than ever before and in the long run i cant see who he is going to displace in the team
Well he’s not going to displace Toney yet. Neither is Forss. Halil was comfortably better in every aspect than Forss yesterday. Do we bin him off too?
 

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Well he’s not going to displace Toney yet. Neither is Forss. Halil was comfortably better in every aspect than Forss yesterday. Do we bin him off too?
No, forss has had a quiet few games but i think forss has shown his finishing and is quicker, stronger and works extremely hard. Perhaps dervisoglu needs more time but just giving my opinion from what ive seen so far
 

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Shock horror: player written off after little game time😂😂😂

no idea whether he will be the dogs b***ocks or as useless as a retarded spider however by and large we don’t get much wrong so I will rely upon the coaches to decide
 

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Despite watching the whole game What exact position did he play? He and Fosu and Ghoddos seemed to interchange a lot.
He was nominally our inside right (where Mbeumo normally plays), with Fosu inside left, and Ghoddos as a "centre mid" alongside Gilbert (with Stevens CM too but more of an anchor role)
 

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i dont think his work rate will be the issue for him, he just doesnt seem to excel in any department from what ive seen. Not quick or particulary physical, doesnt seem to have and tricks to beat his man. He may be a fox in the box type but we need more than that with the way we play
That description could (and was, by some) have been applied to Neal Maupay, in his first season.
 
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