Holysmit
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Those aren't questions at all. You don't piss about with the order after one game. Particularly when you have won comfortably.
Archer doesn't need to be rested and bowled well so why change it?
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Archer doesn't need to be rested and bowled well so why change it?
whyteleafebee76
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Great win for England, one of the best overseas wins ever I would say. Anderson's bowling is just ridiculously good and I do love a cartwheeling stump. Special mention for Leach who took a battering for 8 or 9 overs in the first innings but bowled well after that point.
How do we get Stuart Broad in this side!?
How do we get Stuart Broad in this side!?
SpiderBee
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Not even bothering with the criticism of Leach in this thread.
I would keep Archer in simply for the way he shook Ashwin up. Tough on Broad but, hey ho.
Unless Broad comes in for Bess with Root as second spin option. 4 seamers though????
I would keep Archer in simply for the way he shook Ashwin up. Tough on Broad but, hey ho.
Unless Broad comes in for Bess with Root as second spin option. 4 seamers though????
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Need 2 full time spinners in India period. We are just light on international class spinners to pick from.
I think the only order change would be to move Leach up in place of Archer. Leach is a better batsman and offers a partnership opportunity to those above him. He can bat a bit, certainly can hold the crease for a longer period.
SpiderBee
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Why do you think that is?
Delbee
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Isn’t Ali out there, Joe Root has a good habit of getting test wickets.Somwit Leach and Best we are not badly off
Banana
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Why?
Indian Bee
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Archer for an elbow injury.
I’ll be interested to see how the pitch plays on Saturday and more so if this test match holds up for 5 days. May see more turn from day 2 onwards.
One would expect also Shastri may have had a word in ear of the Ahmedabad groundsman for the 3rd/4th tests coming up.
I’ll be interested to see how the pitch plays on Saturday and more so if this test match holds up for 5 days. May see more turn from day 2 onwards.
One would expect also Shastri may have had a word in ear of the Ahmedabad groundsman for the 3rd/4th tests coming up.
Holysmit
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Ebony is an excellent pundit. I prefer her to Cook and Strauss personally.
Les Beeavinu
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All of the women commentators and summarisers are excellent imo. Don't like Straiss as a summariser, Cook always seems ill at ease.
Banana
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Because they are there on merit for commentating and summarising rather than having 100 caps.
Ball will swing all over the place after dark
Ashford Bees
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Jimmy time
Banana
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Is it a full moon?
Lionel Bart-At
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Broad doesn't swing it though, does he? Archer was getting some movement in the air in the first test. Anyway, that might be academic now.
Indian Bee
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So England have just beaten India and they rest Anderson and Bess on top of the Archer injury for the next test. Ever so confusing especially as Butler has already flown home.
nick logan
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Replaced by Broad and Ali is not bad though !
I’m surprised by this, it would seem Bess has been dropped for Ali. I don’t think Bess has done badly at all this winter, ok went for a few in the 2nd innings but took 4 wickets in the first innings and scored a few runs. Ali has question marks against him at the moment. I think Woakes will play in place of Archer.
Indian Bee
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Broad was always a shoe in for this test. But with Archer not playing thought Anderson would keep his place. Ali hasn’t played any cricket all winter and a bit harsh on Bess whom set up the wicket of Kohli brilliantly in the first innings.
I am sure the England management have their reasons and they haven’t done a lot wrong recently. Just surprising that’s all.
Les Beeavinu
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Bess bowled some real rubbish in the last game.
Bristolian Bee
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ianbees1
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I'm predicting a huge first innings score for England in the next test. Get to about 720 by tea on the 3rd day so we can all start bickering about why they haven't declared again.
HaylingBee74
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Do they use a 2 headed coin?
Banana
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" Fast bowler Mark Wood is being rested until the third Test. " according to the BBC, so all a bit difficult to understand what they are doing.
Gazza Bee
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I suspect Woakes will come in too which will strengthen the batting line up although not convinced he will be effective in Indian conditions with the ball...
Indian Bee
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Second tests starts tomorrow. Looking forward to it. My Saturday morning and next few mornings should be enjoyable.
For India, I said post the 1st test big questions remain but I expect they will go with the original starting line up that they had planned for the 1st test with Axar Patel (decent with the bat) coming in. Also expect that Kuldeep will start. Unlucky for Sundar to miss out. Rohit needs a score (likely to make way for Rahul if he doesn't for the final 2 tests) so does Rahane. The pitch is likely to turn from day 1. So spin will play a big part in this match. Some positive for India last test was Ashwin 6 wickets in the second innings and Kohli 78.
As for England. They have won 3 consecutive test matches in the sub-continent so they know what they are doing but am confused why you would change almost you whole bowling line up from the 1st test. Yes Archer was injured but surely Anderson needs to play. Think it may give India a boost not seeing both Anderson and Archer starting and Ali not played any cricket all winter coming in.
Win toss bat first but likely on this wicket if it turns from day one a first innings score of 300 may well be decent. India to bounce back is my prediction (I have been wrong before).
For India, I said post the 1st test big questions remain but I expect they will go with the original starting line up that they had planned for the 1st test with Axar Patel (decent with the bat) coming in. Also expect that Kuldeep will start. Unlucky for Sundar to miss out. Rohit needs a score (likely to make way for Rahul if he doesn't for the final 2 tests) so does Rahane. The pitch is likely to turn from day 1. So spin will play a big part in this match. Some positive for India last test was Ashwin 6 wickets in the second innings and Kohli 78.
As for England. They have won 3 consecutive test matches in the sub-continent so they know what they are doing but am confused why you would change almost you whole bowling line up from the 1st test. Yes Archer was injured but surely Anderson needs to play. Think it may give India a boost not seeing both Anderson and Archer starting and Ali not played any cricket all winter coming in.
Win toss bat first but likely on this wicket if it turns from day one a first innings score of 300 may well be decent. India to bounce back is my prediction (I have been wrong before).
Indian Bee
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I am not too sure. Dew may be a huge factor in India, especially in Gujarat. There hasn't been a day/ night test match yet in India so be interesting to see how it plays. I believe England always felt this the 3rd test was the one where they would be able to compete and win. They are already 1-0 up so be interesting to see whether they can keep the momentum into tomorrow's test with so many changes.
Bristolian Bee
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Excellent news. HD full throttle
Holysmit
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I would have disagreed with that as Broad was getting bounce when he dropped short.
Sharma didn't look comfortable against balls on the stump.
Stone looked to have the hurry up on Gill and he got lost at sea for that wicket.
Indian cricket at it's finest. Out of nowhere Leach gets Pujara. Crowd deliriously cheers as it means Kohli is in. 5th ball gets a beauty from Moeen, bowled, stands there in disbelief and waits for the umpire to confirm he's actually been bowled. Crowd stunned. 96-3
Indian Bee
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Amazing century for Rohit on a day 1 turner.
Mark H
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Going to be 1-1 in under 4 days .
Indian Bee
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As I said last night getting 300 would look to be a decent score first innings. It’s been Rohit v England so far. Been watching since second hour of the first session and been amazing to watch. However, not sure the pitch is up to test match standard.
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Have to say it's great to have fans back in the stadium, the noise just for Rahane getting a 50 was huge.
Judging by the pitch so far I'll be amazed if we get anything out of this test with the quality of India's spinners and us having to bat last on it.
Still can't understand the decision to not play Anderson.
Judging by the pitch so far I'll be amazed if we get anything out of this test with the quality of India's spinners and us having to bat last on it.
Still can't understand the decision to not play Anderson.
Lionel Bart-At
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Always looks relaxed and jovial, Rohit Sharma. Even when dropping catches.
Indian Bee
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Brilliant 150 for Rohit.
Indian Bee
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Think Rohit got the benefit of the doubt with that stumping.
Lionel Bart-At
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Agreed. Don't think he had definitive evidence to give it, so fair enough in my book. I'm assuming soft signal was not out (only half watching at the moment).
3rd umpire just made a shocking decision to not watch enough replays when England reviewed short leg catch that was out. Thankfully Ali just bowled Rahane anyway. Pitch looks like it's breaking up already, I think India are well on top here.