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No wonder India doesn't have an umpire on the elite panel...
 

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The review has been given back so they've admitted the error (as if we can't all see it)

England finished day 1 of the first test on 263-3 so must be feeling very positive about the current position.
 

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The review has been given back so they've admitted the error (as if we can't all see it)

England finished day 1 of the first test on 263-3 so must be feeling very positive about the current position.
Oh and we also had the batsmen with the big score not out overnight too.

TBH I haven't seen anything in this India team to suggest they can dig in and score a super high, match winning score. The same is probably true of England apart from Joe Root
 

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Erm how many reviews last test match was reversed? None !
That was shocking from the third umpire though, I can accept human error from the on field umpires but to not even check what England appealed for is really bad.

The third umpire must have been relieved when Rahane got out the next over!
 

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Erm how many reviews last test match was reversed? None !
No. Which has been good.

It was just a poor process the third umpire followed. Thankfully, it didn’t really cost any runs. Plus, England got the review back.

All good.
 

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Throughly enjoyable first day. Good contest between bat and ball. This pitch probably won’t last 5 days but better than watching bowlers bowl on a road as the first two days of the first test.

Rohit will get the headlines but vital innings by Rahane. Rant will come out and bat as he does tomorrow morning and look to extend last 350.

England’s best bowler - Joe Root.
 

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That was shocking from the third umpire though, I can accept human error from the on field umpires but to not even check what England appealed for is really bad.

The third umpire must have been relieved when Rahane got out the next over!
It was a shocking decision but I have seen plenty in England, Australia and around the world. Not sure a comment like ‘ no wonder no Indian umpires etc ..,, was called for !
 

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Throughly enjoyable first day. Good contest between bat and ball. This pitch probably won’t last 5 days but better than watching bowlers bowl on a road as the first two days of the first test.

Rohit will get the headlines but vital innings by Rahane. Rant will come out and bat as he does tomorrow morning and look to extend last 350.

England’s best bowler - Joe Root.
Harsh on Leach who bowled very well IMO.
 
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It was a shocking decision but I have seen plenty in England, Australia and around the world. Not sure a comment like ‘ no wonder no Indian umpires etc ..,, was called for !
What did you think of the Rohit stumping then? Nothing behind the line?
 

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It was a shocking decision but I have seen plenty in England, Australia and around the world. Not sure a comment like ‘ no wonder no Indian umpires etc ..,, was called for !
I'm still not convinced either way. Neither was the third umpire, therefore...

Good day for India, but not a disaster for England. They still have the possibility to get rid of India for 350 which would be a decent effort. The toss has probably already decided the outcome of the test, but just how close it will be depends on whether England are able to do the above, then establish a first innings lead. I doubt they'll manage either tbh, but you never know.

If India bat first in the third test, England may have to look at employing a toss coach. Any suggestions for great tossers of the past who might qualify for the role?
 

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Out FACT with added trueness but either way fabulous to watch a specialist wicketkeeper ply their trade. Such a rare sight these days 👏
Agree completely. Wonderful to see. Wicket keeping is an art - these days one needs to bat well also. I have been crying out for Foakes for the last two years. His keeping today was streets ahead of Pant whom is a poor wicket keeper (gradually getting better) in comparison.

Plus I do like how Foakes is always talking. Can’t seem to shut him up
 

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Agree completely. Wonderful to see. Wicket keeping is an art - these days one needs to bat well also. I have been crying out for Foakes for the last two years. His keeping today was streets ahead of Pant whom is a poor wicket keeper (gradually getting better) in comparison.

Plus I do like how Foakes is always talking. Can’t seem to shut him up
Matt Prior on Talksport commentary today singing Foakes’ praises for both his keeping and how he encourages his teammates, and brings incredible energy to the side.
BF - Good Surrey boy!! :)
 

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It was a shocking decision but I have seen plenty in England, Australia and around the world. Not sure a comment like ‘ no wonder no Indian umpires etc ..,, was called for !
Agree. From what I saw in the first test the umpires did well. We are in unusual times and seeing home umpires on the whole doing well is a credit to cricket.
 

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Agreed, the umpiring has been excellent. That though was a total f*** up.
 

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I'm still not convinced either way. Neither was the third umpire, therefore...

Good day for India, but not a disaster for England. They still have the possibility to get rid of India for 350 which would be a decent effort. The toss has probably already decided the outcome of the test, but just how close it will be depends on whether England are able to do the above, then establish a first innings lead. I doubt they'll manage either tbh, but you never know.

If India bat first in the third test, England may have to look at employing a toss coach. Any suggestions for great tossers of the past who might qualify for the role?
I think it was a very good day for India. As a purist I am never a fan of pitches turning from the morning session in day 1 but that is what you get sometimes in sub-continent conditions. Where India did really well is that they scored quickly all down to Rohit. This is something England may need to do also is ensure even with any wickets going down the score is ticking along.

I don't agree win the toss win the test match. One only wins test matches by ensuring a good first innings batting performance. England did that superbly in the first test and India (Rohit and Rahane) did for India today. India are delighted with day 1 and would have taken 300-6 start of the day.

For tomorrow, India will be looking to bat deep in the first session. 45 mins to 1 hours plus of Pant would edge India above 350. England also know one quick wicket tomorrow morning (that is Pant) then India have a long tail and could easily be all out for 315-320. Their objective thereafter will be to get as close to India's first innings score as possible. Will be another fascinating day ahead.
 

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I don't agree win the toss win the test match
I would rather that whoever wins the first test gets the decision in the 3rd test and the other team decide what to do in the 2nd and 4th test. Any 5th test should be a new toss.

However that might lead to certain pitches being produced by the home country.
 

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Today was a good advert for and what I like about Test Match Cricket. Two team having good and bad moments, more of the same please
 

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I would rather that whoever wins the first test gets the decision in the 3rd test and the other team decide what to do in the 2nd and 4th test. Any 5th test should be a new toss.

However that might lead to certain pitches being produced by the home country.
I like the system as it is. India won the toss in the first test in Australia and Australia won the remaining three. The team that won the toss didn't want any of those games.

The only occasion where I felt in recent years the toss has been the key deciding factor was the test match at Lords between England and India with also favourable weather conditions.
 

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The thing is most countries prepare pitches to suit their own players and rightly so. As long as the pitch is fair (ie supports the chance of a decent match) then all good.

The only way that alternate choice would work, imo, is if the pitch was prepared to order by a neutral (in the same way that world cups are/supposed to be).

That or the pitch is kept completely hidden and is revealed after the toss-winning captain has said bat or bowl. Maybe it could work a bit like blind date and a screen is pulled back with the camera zoomed in on the captains face to reveal his horror/delight. 😎
 

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The thing is most countries prepare pitches to suit their own players and rightly so. As long as the pitch is fair (ie supports the chance of a decent match) then all good.

The only way that alternate choice would work, imo, is if the pitch was prepared to order by a neutral (in the same way that world cups are/supposed to be).

That or the pitch is kept completely hidden and is revealed after the toss-winning captain has said bat or bowl. Maybe it could work a bit like blind date and a screen is pulled back with the camera zoomed in on the captains face to reveal his horror/delight. 😎
Ditto with me. I never have any issues with the home country preparing pitches that works for them. The really good test match players should be able to play in all conditions.
 

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The thing is most countries prepare pitches to suit their own players and rightly so. As long as the pitch is fair (ie supports the chance of a decent match) then all good.

The only way that alternate choice would work, imo, is if the pitch was prepared to order by a neutral (in the same way that world cups are/supposed to be).

That or the pitch is kept completely hidden and is revealed after the toss-winning captain has said bat or bowl. Maybe it could work a bit like blind date and a screen is pulled back with the camera zoomed in on the captains face to reveal his horror/delight. 😎
Unlikely that they could stop the home captain and the groundsman from communicating in some way, shape or form.
 

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can’t see England scoring over 300 on a quickly deteriorating wicket. Hope I’m wrong and would like to see Ben stokes / joe root take on the Indian attack. Fascinating series this and the time difference is perfect for my daily wake up at 4am malarkey
 

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Got no problem with home sides producing whatever pitch they like. No more difficult test than a seaming English pitch so fair enough if we have to play on a dry turner. Be a bit boring otherwise.
 

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can’t see England scoring over 300 on a quickly deteriorating wicket. Hope I’m wrong and would like to see Ben stokes / joe root take on the Indian attack. Fascinating series this and the time difference is perfect for my daily wake up at 4am malarkey
Ditto - I hope they do as it will be a fascinating watch. India's spin options is more attacking that the first test and will be a good contest. Already told my wife tomorrow lunch will be slightly earlier between 12-12:30. Cricket in the morning and watching the Bees early afternoon. A well spent Sunday hopefully will bring a week of content.
 

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Watched the highlights again this morning.

Still don't understand why there was no off-side shot from point directly to the crease for Rohit's stumping chance. On the leg-side evidence, I can't see what led to the not out decision. Nothing grounded behind the line. What happens if there's a run out at that end and the best angle is from the off-side?

For this Test, the pitch is the pitch. It's a bit much to expect the groundsman to produce something extraordinary when he's had only four days to do so, and the previous five to that has had fielders traipsing all over it in spikes.
 

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love watching Pant bat, glad we disposed of his partners quickly this morning. Game on for a great day of sport.
 

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No idea what the umpire was doing giving that. Going down leg if ever I've seen one. So what if it hit snicked the stumps.
 

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What a gift to a young spinner, to be invited to make your test debut on a wicket like this. 🎁
 

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This wont go more than 3 days - 8 wickets in a session is not test cricket and the TMS commentators are not happy with the pitch at all. England will be lucky to make the follow on here.
 

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How anybody is supposed to concentrate with all the high pitched squealing and general antics going on around the bat is beyond me.
Also that pitch is an absolute disgrace. It was flaky by tea on the first day.
 

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England should have attacked the way Pant did, just hit out and take the chance. Poking and prodding around was never going to work.
 

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