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Read his book whilst on holiday last year and began to get a different view of him, then I came back and he was suspended from Rangers. Now this.

I now want a refund....
 

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I'm letting personal opinion get in the way of principle, if I let my personal opinion lead me and I was involved he would have got a life bad.

Remember this is the guy who stubbed a cigarette out on a trainee.

Scum, lack of respect of the establishment.

Come to think of it I would probably have had him put down.:horns:

Thanks feel better now.
 

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How anyone can defend him is beyond me, how many times is he going to **** up? He makes a valid point about the f.a being hypocritical with regards to attitudes towards gambling but the rest is nonsense. Betting on his team to lose just because he didn't get picked lol. So many rubbish excuses in his statement. Now he's been banned he can bet on what he likes and spend more time trying to deal with all his anger and addictions. There's so many sports and events to bet on without needing to put your career in jeapordy and he's lucky it's taken them this long to catch him when he was doing it so openly. Even worse he's betting on matches involving his own team, even the audacity to bet on himself to score first. I have no idea how it took betfair that long to suss him out when he bet above moderate sums , using his own name and address and verified his account with his passport. Fully justified ban imo.
 

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How anyone can defend him is beyond me, how many times is he going to **** up? He makes a valid point about the f.a being hypocritical with regards to attitudes towards gambling but the rest is nonsense. Betting on his team to lose just because he didn't get picked lol. So many rubbish excuses in his statement. Now he's been banned he can bet on what he likes and spend more time trying to deal with all his anger and addictions. There's so many sports and events to bet on without needing to put your career in jeapordy and he's lucky it's taken them this long to catch him when he was doing it so openly. Even worse he's betting on matches involving his own team, even the audacity to bet on himself to score first. I have no idea how it took betfair that long to suss him out when he bet above moderate sums , using his own name and address and verified his account with his passport. Fully justified ban imo.
Agree, I think The FA have just had enough of him, time after time he brings the game into disrepute for one serious matter or other and it is always him who seems to be the victim or somebody else's fault in his eyes.

The game is better off without him, I just hope he doesn't end up as a pundit with some channel after cheap viewing figures.
 

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I note the stakes are missing from his list of bets he published on his website...
 

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do you get less for taken drugs in football, an over the top ban..
 

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Good riddance to bad rubbish. Another thick footballer caught out.
 

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.....i dont mind the fella.....working class la'......nae underclass....from the rough side of the mersey......sure he's not perfect......but who is......he's led a colourful life......more than most on here have......including me......but betting on glasgow rangers winning against celtic does make me question his mental health.......#joeyisaninnocent.
 

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Not a Joey Barton fan...but don't think the FA have handled this appropriately either. All footballers bet in some way or form - even on their own fixtures - most of it throwaway bets on being the first goal scorer etc and Joey's bets mostly look like that to be honest!

Do the FA really think placing a fiver on a teammate to score the first goal is going to really influence play over the £20k plus salary and say £5k win bonus etc?

It does all look very silly from Joey, but definitely not sinister like some of the match rigging type betting where huge sums of money are being staked.
 

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no problem here. everyone knows the rules, it's a massive infringement of them, so he deserves a big punishment. muppet.
 

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Not a Joey Barton fan...but don't think the FA have handled this appropriately either. All footballers bet in some way or form - even on their own fixtures - most of it throwaway bets on being the first goal scorer etc and Joey's bets mostly look like that to be honest!

Do the FA really think placing a fiver on a teammate to score the first goal is going to really influence play over the £20k plus salary and say £5k win bonus etc?

It does all look very silly from Joey, but definitely not sinister like some of the match rigging type betting where huge sums of money are being staked.
They shouldn't, betting on your own match is a sure fireway to try to fix a match.
 

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They shouldn't, betting on your own match is a sure fireway to try to fix a match.
Even if you're not playing, if your team is involved you'll have inside info (who's carrying a knock, etc) about things that may influence the outcome.

Less clear why you can't bet on a football match in another country or 5 divisions below yours
 

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They shouldn't, betting on your own match is a sure fireway to try to fix a match.
All players stick a cheeky fiver on themselves for first goal scorer etc...seen players do this in the dressing room plenty of times! I mean really they are largely young competitive guys...and it's a bit of bravado/sport for a few buttons!

Agree in principle that they shouldn't though
 

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Less clear why you can't bet on a football match in another country or 5 divisions below yours
to make it bloody clear where the line is? footballers should not bet on football matches at all - young footballers, get it out of your mind, it is not an option for you. quite a clear message, innit :)
 

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to make it bloody clear where the line is? footballers should not bet on football matches at all - young footballers, get it out of your mind, it is not an option for you. quite a clear message, innit :)
To be honest they should get an annual briefing like the NFL does with its players...explaining how betting, drugs, drinking and social media can detrimentally impact their careers!
 

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To be honest they should get an annual briefing like the NFL does with its players...explaining how betting, drugs, drinking and social media can detrimentally impact their careers!
Doesn't seem to work though.

Google Josh Gordon,Randy Gregory or if you want to see a really adverse effect on your career Aaron Hernandez
 

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to make it bloody clear where the line is? footballers should not bet on football matches at all - young footballers, get it out of your mind, it is not an option for you. quite a clear message, innit :)
Or get a mate to put the bet on , stoopid footballers
 

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Or get a mate to put the bet on , stoopid footballers
Still breaking the rules if you do that.
Football is a business now and has been for a long time.
So just think of it in the same way you would about insider trading.
 

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Still breaking the rules if you do that.
Football is a business now and has been for a long time.
So just think of it in the same way you would about insider trading.
Maybe , but he wouldn't have got found out !
 

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its a shame JB didn't place all his 2.5k bets with "smart odds" MB would have enough money for the extra 3000 seats
 

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Should have stuck to the dogs and horses if he had a gambling problem,maybe JT Mum could have given him some counselling:sueme:
 

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His statement stunk of the usual Joey Barton chip on shoulder.

Blaming the FA for allowing betting advertising?

Does this mean we should ban vodka at Asda for a £10ner on the tv because an alcoholic may watch it?

He could of bet on anything else if his issue was that serious but no. He bet on football games he was involved in!!

He is a complete tool. A nasty human being and I am hopeful I will never see him again. But unfortunately this is giving him more air time.

Good bye.
 

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He said he wasn't playing in the games he had a bet on...seems a very harsh punishment to me especially as he's offered mitigating circumstances in his addiction.was betting not allowed back in 06? I personally think it's a harsh sentence because of who he is as other cases have had much lighter sentences albeit for not as many offences.
So he bet on himself being first scorer when not playing. Deserves ban for gross negligence of not understanding a bet
 

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I imagine the FA carried out a sort of " totting up" punishment, he has been in front of them so many times from stubbing a cigarette out on a youngster through various other major and minor misdemeanours that they looked at the maximum punishment and gave it to him.

Now that may not be the correct application of the FA rules and no doubt Mr Barton objects to it however as he has totally failed to follow the rules himself it is somewhat arrogant to complain if others don't

Have heard all sorts of " professionals " supporting him, generally all ex footballers or football media darlings, however none have suggested what sort of punishment he should have got,

Now maybe I am old fashioned and was brought up in the dim distant past where personal responsibility and following the rules was standard behaviour as well as honesty and respect for others, somehow all of this has passed him bye

As for his carping about betting companies sponsoring football: so what if I am caught speeding can I blame the manufacturers for making a car that goes quickly??? If I eventually pass away due to smoking my pipe to much can I blame the tobacco company??? It's all about personal choice and he made his fully aware of the potential penalties

I have no sympathy whatsoever
 

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The FA often gets a bad press that it is not "doing something" to clean up football etc. ( e.g. the thread on Leyton Orient) On this issue they have taken a very firm stand to try and avoid the match fixing and like that affects so many leagues overseas. The rules are absolutely clear and affect not just the players but anyone working in the club and even the Community Trusts I believe.

Barton knew the score and in his usual way stuck two fingers up to the authorities and continued betting against the rules extensively and in a premeditated and deliberate manner. I can see why the FA believe that not only have they been fair in their penalty but have let him off lightly. a longer ban from all footballing activities could have been an option.
 
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Or get a mate to put the bet on , stoopid footballers
Maybe not that easy to do really though Nick with the sums he was betting. Those large amounts going through someones bank account might raise questions about money laundering or from the taxman. Just a guess.
 

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The FA often gets a bad press that it is not "doing something" to clean up football etc. ( e.g. the thread on Leyton Orient) On this issue they have taken a very firm stand to try and avoid the match fixing and like that affects so many leagues overseas. The rules are absolutely clear and affect not just the players but anyone working in the club and even the Community Trusts I believe.

Barton knew the score and in his usual way stuck two fingers up to the authorities and continued betting against the rules extensively and in a premeditated and deliberate manner. I can see why the FA believe that not only have they been fair in their penalty but have let him off lightly. a longer ban from all footballing activities could have been an option.
Yep fully agree. I heard that it was not the heaviest sentence that could have been handed out, but what made it worse was JBs attitude throughout the hearing where he would not accept any wrong doing, and that was taken into consideration. Pleased to see that he has been made an example of, just an absolute idiot.
 

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I can't remember their names but 2 Sheffield Wednesday Players got banned for life in the 60's but don't know if that was for betting or match fixing. Anyone else remember better details? I know one had his ban reversed after about 10 years and did plan league football again.
 

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This....is the most random appointment I've ever heard! I know Rosler had flaws, but give me him any day of the week over Barton, as little as I know of his coaching knowledge.

Certainly will be interesting....although I suspect he may be 'relieved of his duties' by next Jan...
 

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Could work but there again leopards don't change their spots....
 
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Thanks for saving us Mr Sheridan and goodbye!

What’s the game coming to?
 

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That goodness. I thought given his location and past dealings with MB he was being looked at to take charge of the B team when KoC gets promoted
 

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Thanks for saving us Mr Sheridan and goodbye!

What’s the game coming to?
It might be Sheridan who has chosen to leave and was never going to be there next season. He's done such things before hasn't he?
 

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Lots of hard working coaches who've spent years honing their craft in preparation for a head coach opportunity must be wondering why they bother right now. Coaching is a skill that you LEARN it is not some intangible thing that is just a natural offshoot of 'leadership' or 'character' or whatever it is that people apparently see in Joey Barton.
 

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It might be Sheridan who has chosen to leave and was never going to be there next season. He's done such things before hasn't he?
about five times at Oldham but Opinions 5u is your man on that one
 

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