Managerial Moves 2020/21

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The official statement references a “discipline” issue with Deeney. Suggests the players had a big say in his demise.
 

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It’s also not in the official statement, as was suggested.
You think Watford will say that?!! lol

It’s what the manager said, re Deeney, to the reporters. It’s out there......
 

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You think Watford will say that?!! lol

It’s what the manager said, re Deeney, to the reporters. It’s out there......
No, I don’t think Watford would say that. But this is what I originally responded to:

The official statement references a “discipline” issue with Deeney. Suggests the players had a big say in his demise.
I hope this helps your understanding of this exchange.
 

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I think Watford have always sourced the replacement Coach, before sacking the incumbent. They end up with caretakers when other factors cause delay.
All good for us anyway, and the new man could be worse!
It would be interesting if WFC were to invite applications next time. 1) Would they get any? 2) Who might they end up with? 3) Would dear old Tory have a veto?
 

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Cowley said it right on EFL prgramme that they have no defined style or joined up thinking. You could see it in their match against Brentford - total change in style 2nd half
 

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Cowley said it right on EFL prgramme that they have no defined style or joined up thinking. You could see it in their match against Brentford - total change in style 2nd half
Isn't that the elusive 'Plan B'? :)
 
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Tuchel gone from PSG!!

 
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Tuchel gone from PSG!!

Meanwhile over in North London, Mikel Arteta suddenly felt an inexplicable shiver down his back....
 

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Tuchel gone from PSG!!

Next stop Arsenal?
 

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Pulis gone from Sheffield Wednesday after 45 days.
 
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Billic to move in?
He could probably do better than a relegation scrap with them. There’ll probably be a vacancy at Watford early March.

I don’t think Bilic is a great manager but I rather like him for his obvious intelligence and enthusiasm- I remember him jumping onto the table in excitement while summarising a Croatia World Cup match for the beeb a few years back.
 

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I mean...ok. There is an impression that the likes of him, and Allardyce guarantee survival, but I think with how the game has developed that it is just not the case. A waste of time from Wednesday, and may well have cost them their Championship survival. Goodness knows who will take the role now...
 
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...with probably another big fat payout!
While I don't know about Pulis/Sheff Wed, most owners have long since stopped giving out contracts which force them to pay out fat compensation when they sack managers prematurely.

Probably the best example was Mourinho, who needed a wheelbarrow for the cash he trousered the first time he was sacked by Chelsea. Apparently it was a LOT different the second time!

If nothing else, the payout is almost always paid out in installments, which cease (or are reduced) if the manager gets another job during the severance period. For example, after being sacked by England, Sven Goran Eriksson waited for exactly 364 days before taking his next job i.e. after his 12 month severance package from the FA.

Which is why most managers jump from one job to the next just as soon as they can these days, since they've not had a huge lump sum from their last job, neither are they still due installments over a period.

And even if a contractual payment is due, sometimes clubs insert a clause requiring them to be compensated should the manager take a new job within a given period. Eg Pochettino left Spurs a year ago, he could easily have got another job before now, but has only being linked with PSG this last week. I'm pretty sure I read that Spurs were due several million(?) from whichever club he signed for within the following year.
 

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Just reading the BBC article about his sacking; the line from their Chairman of, "There are also other issues which have had a bearing on this decision." may mean there is more to this?
 

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Just reading the BBC article about his sacking; the line from their Chairman of, "There are also other issues which have had a bearing on this decision." may mean there is more to this?
Didn't like canned tuna ?
 
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Just reading the BBC article about his sacking; the line from their Chairman of, "There are also other issues which have had a bearing on this decision." may mean there is more to this?
According to 'Owlstalk', Pulis had been waiting for a proper meeting with the owner ever since he joined. Speculation is that he finally got it, told the owner how crap the squad was and how much it would take to fix it in January, at which point the owner took offence at the implied criticism of his stewardship of the club to date (as well as not having/wanting to spend the necessary money).

Could be nonsense, of course, but the very fact that so many people can give it credence suggests that Chansirai will only tolerate "Yes" men.
 

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Just been reading it thank god we do not have an owner like that.
 

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The Yorkshire Live notes are probably better in understanding the statements made by their chairman as the Owl Talks forum has too many member comments:

 

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The Yorkshire Live notes are probably better in understanding the statements made by their chairman as the Owl Talks forum has too many member comments:

Bizarre to think that he believed Pulis would change his style of play depending on the opposition.

Also interesting that 60% of fans asked for a refund which they haven't got yet. On one hand he blames cashflow for players wages and then says they have new software.
 

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what a car crash that is, sounds like he had the fans on side whilst discussing the pulis situation but then he turned on the fans. I believe him about pulis being an idiot but he is clearly a tool himself
 

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Pocchettino appointed the new head coach at PSG.
 
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I just think he was a manager with the right way of playing and did a good job pushing a clough Burton to the next step. Was a tad concerned with his move to QPR (same as MW) but as its been seen with the snake its the issues behind the scenes at that club that hold back every manager they put in control.
 

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