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"Fish out of water" comes to mind.

It's like when you were a kid and the bigger lads won't let you join in.
Absolutely spot on,my thoughts entirely.Must be very difficult when you are suddenly surrounded by PL egos,and a management team that includes Nolan.
 

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It’s a bit sad. I always thought behind the brash, show off insta and Twitter posts he was a sensitive soul who needed nurturing. Although he’s no longer a bee it’s like seeing one of your kids starting a new school and finding it hard to fit in.
Since he left I always find myself trying to catch highlights of the games where he plays. I don't do that when Villa, Brighton or anyone else is playing: Just West Ham and only to see Saïd. He made a bigger impression on me than any other player who moved on to better(?) things
 

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Absolutely. Running around aimlessly behind Haller. Not seeming to know what his role is. Is this Moyes’ way of proving himself right?
Moyes has never liked flair players, just workers who have a job to do, I watched the whole game & it was as though Benrahma was told to forget all the clever stuff & just make yourself available, every time he got the ball I thought "here we go" but all he did was make a sideways pass, It was quite sad really.
 

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They won at Everton with Saïd in the starting XI and he played the whole game.
 

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Moyes has never liked flair players, just workers who have a job to do, I watched the whole game & it was as though Benrahma was told to forget all the clever stuff & just make yourself available, every time he got the ball I thought "here we go" but all he did was make a sideways pass, It was quite sad really.
Only saw about the last half-hour of the game and he did look a bit like a fish out of water. However he did play a very good through ball to Antonio in injury time and he fluffed the chance.
 

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They’re doing their best to turn him into the normal bog standard premiership hardworking drone.
When he’s got enough money in the bank to be set for life I wonder if he’ll eventually decide to play somewhere where he can express himself & show what he’s all about again.
 

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Wouldn't it be sweet if we get promoted and stay up, but they get relegated next season (or this one, but not looking likely ATM), having coughed up the readies for Said and we then offer them, say £5m, for him?
 

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Wouldn't it be sweet if we get promoted and stay up, but they get relegated next season (or this one, but not looking likely ATM), having coughed up the readies for Said and we then offer them, say £5m, for him?
Get him on loan for the first year at say 500k then the other 4-5 million over the next three years ...
 

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Will they be settling their bill in Jan? I thought that was the plan if the medical stuff all checked out etc?
 

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They just sold Haller for half of what they bought him for as he doesn’t fit into Moyes’ ‘mould’. Doesn’t bode well for Said if Moyes doesn’t fancy him.
 

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They just sold Haller for half of what they bought him for as he doesn’t fit into Moyes’ ‘mould’. Doesn’t bode well for Said if Moyes doesn’t fancy him.
Lets hope Hallers previous club gets paid and West Ham don't string it out till they are forced to pay up.
 

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west ham recruitment is awful..they probably bought said just because everyone said how good he was (and he is)
 

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west ham recruitment is awful..they probably bought said just because everyone said how good he was (and he is)
Makes you think when they are prepared to write off what they paid for Said on letting Haller go simply because he doesn't fit into their style of football.
 

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It's mad they Sell Haller with a massive loss as he's not a Moyes player, surely a player needs to be a West ham player as Moyes could be gone next week and the next manager could utilise Haller in a better way
 

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It's mad they Sell Haller with a massive loss as he's not a Moyes player, surely a player needs to be a West ham player as Moyes could be gone next week and the next manager could utilise Haller in a better way
Thats the problem with clubs in the transfer market and manager market come to think of it.
We hire managers to manage what we put in front of them for our system. We haven't, since Benham took over, hired a manager that doesn't continue the style, formation etc of our way. This has meant the players don't need to adapt to a new system or a team needs to be replaced frequently and costly.
West Ham, and other clubs, struggle as they have to change and adapt. Just look at WBA. The players are passing, possession type players. They've hired Sam Allardyce who plays hoofball. In that time he's managed 4 games, losing 3 and drawing one. Confeded 13 times and scored once. For them to succeed, they'll sell players that don't fit and replace with his style. Costing more money. Then in the summer, do they stick or twist with him and rebuild yet again?
 

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Thats the problem with clubs in the transfer market and manager market come to think of it.
We hire managers to manage what we put in front of them for our system. We haven't, since Benham took over, hired a manager that doesn't continue the style, formation etc of our way. This has meant the players don't need to adapt to a new system or a team needs to be replaced frequently and costly.
West Ham, and other clubs, struggle as they have to change and adapt. Just look at WBA. The players are passing, possession type players. They've hired Sam Allardyce who plays hoofball. In that time he's managed 4 games, losing 3 and drawing one. Confeded 13 times and scored once. For them to succeed, they'll sell players that don't fit and replace with his style. Costing more money. Then in the summer, do they stick or twist with him and rebuild yet again?
You know, when you put it like that, it's so bloody obvious. :sorted:

Yet so few club owners seem to understand it, with The Dildo Brothers having fewer excuses than most, having failed to learn this lesson at Brum, even before they took over at WHU.
 

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They need to pass to him and move the ball more quickly generally. He passes and moves then doesn't see the ball again. Far too much down the right hand side first half.
Benrahma wants to play quickly but West Ham slow everything down. 3 defensive midfielder vs a non league team. That tells a story in it self. Should of gone to Leeds then you would of seen the real Said. Maybe if we get promoted we could have him back. So So So wasted at West Ham. As long as they pay up.
 

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I liked this quote on Tw@tter "...Benrahma could nutmeg a mermaid"
 

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It's going to be a tough ask for Said under Moyse. He's not a Moyse player, and I'm not sure he really wanted to sign him. Always felt a little Jota to me, where you kinda knew deep down that Brentford would be the most fun he has for a while. Players get special connections to this club and the people in it, because we know who we are (plucky unfashionable club for West London). West Ham expect the world for some reason, and wont be happy until they're a top 6 club. With the chair people being who they are, and with Moyse in charge, I think they'll always be closer to bottom 3 than top 6, and I feel Said may be a luxury player for them.
 

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No other West Ham player is on the same wavelength as Said. He see's a pass and gets in the right place to receive it, but the man in possession does not.
He's much too good for West Ham.
How much of his magic have we seen since he's been there? None.
 

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West Ham are a negative team under Moyes, even last night they played with 3 defensive midfielders. Would love to have seen Benrahma at Leeds after we didnt go up. Maybe if we do go up we could get him back in a deal. Wishful thinking I know.
 

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It might be an unfashionable thing to say, but I think Moyes is doing a pretty decent job there.

They were in freefall when he arrived, and now they are comfortably mid-table.

Benny was never going to be the right player for a team whose only ambition is survival, more fool him for going there and the owners for paying £30m for him.
 

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