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Scott Flinders, Hartlepool Keeper - Right or Wrong?

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Peter G said:
Brentford Football Club would like to place on record their full appreciation of the excellent behaviour of their fans at the final whistle for not encroaching on the pitch and thus allowing Andy Scott and his squad of players to take the plaudits for a tremendously satisfying season.

Thank you each and every one of you
The club have issued a thank you to the fans for not running on the pitch at the end of the game but the usual over-zealous moderation has decided that it is a duplicate thread to this one which is the complete opposite.

Well done Mods (Mod) for getting it wrong yet again.

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Yes i agree a fine coming our way:sad: but i bet its no where near as much as the OVER THE TOP police bill, did we really need that many coppers ?
they earned their money outside the griffin. do we have to pay for the fertilizer the horses donated to the pitch though?
 

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totally agree what the keeper done getting then off the field but should not have throw then to the ground
 

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At the time I thought the keepers actions were all rather amusing and the subsequent reaction from the tools in Ealing Road was completely unnaceptable.

Having thought about this for a while.........

.......I still think the same. Play with fire and you'll get your fingers burned.


At the end of the season it used to be traditional to have a good natured pitch invasion after the final whistle. Thanks to the idiots, pikeys, chavs and generally thoughtless morons that seem to inhabit Griffin Park these days, that's now impossible and it's a shame that the well behaved kids (ie mine!) can't experience what I used to be able to do in the good old days.
 

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Oh FFS. I know it's late :zzzzz:

I wasn't counting, but I certainly felt it was closer to 20 than 12 as offered by you. Therefore you might like to infer that my impression what that it was "15 or more" which may or may not be close to the facts.

As for charging for GPG usage. You don't need to use it. Rather like a pub toilet, no-one compels you to use the facilities.

please bar me...

i said 5, you said nearer 20. i think its was nearer 5 than 20.... i wasnt counting but i definitely noticed a few.

in fact BAR ME please.. it seams that one can't resign, and as you count every member when you want to, i'd rather not be here... please email me when you have ta

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please bar me...

i said 5, you said nearer 20. i think its was nearer 5 than 20.... i wasnt counting but i definitely noticed a few.

in fact BAR ME please.. it seams that one can't resign, and as you count every member when you want to, i'd rather not be here... please email me when you have ta

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Your request will be passed to the GPG Fuhrer, one Carri Bee Un. I have no control over him. What he decides is out of my hands (especially if he's a fan of The Eagles)
 

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At the time I thought the keepers actions were all rather amusing and the subsequent reaction from the tools in Ealing Road was completely unnaceptable.

Having thought about this for a while.........

.......I still think the same. Play with fire and you'll get your fingers burned.


At the end of the season it used to be traditional to have a good natured pitch invasion after the final whistle. Thanks to the idiots, pikeys, chavs and generally thoughtless morons that seem to inhabit Griffin Park these days, that's now impossible and it's a shame that the well behaved kids (ie mine!) can't experience what I used to be able to do in the good old days.
When you children get to the age of about 13-14 and come to brentford with there mates, and for some stupid reason , lets say for a dare or a bet run on the pitch, would you still feel the same way about a 6ft 2 bloke chucking your son like that?
 

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I just can't believe all this sh*t about not getting on the pitch after the last game of the season.To wait for a pointless lap of "honour" ? What is wrong with jumping on the pitch at the final whistle and feeling the turf beneath you feet for one time in the season? In the old days if there was anything to celebrate the team got themselves up in the Braemar after the game and got the plaudits from the fans below. During the so called "lap of honour" the team raced around no even bothering to come anywhere near the fans. It was the usual GP end of season yawn.I used to really look forward to jumping on the pitch at the end of the last game of the season when i was a kid. but not before. The three assholes who ran on deserved everything they got, well done Flinders, and I hope they feel bruised and battered. They should be made to apologise to the goalie and to all the fans at GP first game of next season. As for the bigger assholes who threw bottles at Flinders even bigger shame on you- I hate to think I stand anywhere near you dickheads. Anyway, apart from all that it was a sh*t game but great to have a traditional last match of the season drink at the Globe and really looking forward to August as England will typically screw up during the summer.
 

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When you children get to the age of about 13-14 and come to brentford with there mates, and for some stupid reason , lets say for a dare or a bet run on the pitch, would you still feel the same way about a 6ft 2 bloke chucking your son like that?
The sh*tbags deserve it. no excuses.
 

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At the time I thought the keepers actions were all rather amusing and the subsequent reaction from the tools in Ealing Road was completely unnaceptable.

Having thought about this for a while.........

.......I still think the same. Play with fire and you'll get your fingers burned.


At the end of the season it used to be traditional to have a good natured pitch invasion after the final whistle. Thanks to the idiots, pikeys, chavs and generally thoughtless morons that seem to inhabit Griffin Park these days, that's now impossible and it's a shame that the well behaved kids (ie mine!) can't experience what I used to be able to do in the good old days.
Well said Bob. Totally agree.
 

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i don't know what makes me more sick, the bottle chucking or the sanctimonious halo polishing on this board. siding with a bloke mistreating kids half his size??? and don't make out that over 6,000 were backing him, because they weren't. yes he got a cheer when he apprehended the first kid, but he caused considerable anger throwing them like he did. i only wish we'd scored to send them down.
Don't make me sick. The sh*tbags desreved everything they got. Well done Flinders.
 

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When you children get to the age of about 13-14 and come to brentford with there mates, and for some stupid reason , lets say for a dare or a bet run on the pitch, would you still feel the same way about a 6ft 2 bloke chucking your son like that?
If they'd interrupted the game and acted like a c**t, then yes.

And then when he'd got home I'd pick him up and throw him on the floor again.
 

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If they'd interrupted the game and acted like a c**t, then yes.

And then when he'd got home I'd pick him up and throw him on the floor again.
Indeed. If I had done the same at 12 years old and my old man was in the stands...... I certainly wouldn't be heading home in a hurry!
 

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This country.................

Those kids and their guardians were out of order but Flinders had no right or need to get involved as there are people (supposedly) specifically employed to deal with those situations.

As it will soon be illegal to clap inside a football ground, I advise you all to consider voluntary amputation of at least one hand this Summer.
 

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Indeed. If I had done the same at 12 years old and my old man was in the stands...... I certainly wouldn't be heading home in a hurry!
:imwith: I wouldn't even have entertained it knowing what my old man would have done to me afterwards. My 13 year old son saw it all today and I know he wouldn't let me down by doing something so foolish.

My 7 year old godson was still in tears after the final whistle and it will be a long time before he will want to come back to GP.

I love my club and the game and I know it attracts people from all walks of life but some of the low life that I have witnessed in recent years are such an embarrassment to Brentford and football.
 

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don't agree Jim. not on this one.... sorry... if it was Woj, then we'd have been saying 'Well done' etc, and if you don't agree then fair enough, but I do think we'd be saying 'well done' and we'd be defending him to Hartlepool oiks coming on here..


and (as an afterthough to other stuff)
the fact is, due to these *****, were gonna get in trouble, and now after the bottle throwing were gonna get into trouble.... maybe the club should bill the 'fans' involved.... if it was 89 mins, it could be forgiven, but its 79 mins and is a deliberate act of defiance and can't be defended.
 

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Pity he didnt drop the little b*atards on their stupid heads.
BFC need to sort this Ealing Road minority out from day one next season
You have a good point there. Question to the do gooders. What if one of these kids fell on his head climbing over the railings and was badly injured?
to the bottle throwing cowards. **** off out of GP we don't want you here. Amd finally fans must have seen who the culprits were. Grass the pricks up.
 
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Wrong, very wrong. People on here get all misty eyed about the naughtyness that went on when they were a lad because boys will be boys, all part and parcel of it, etc etc. Two CHILDREN make a mistake by running onto the pitch. Stupid but harmless. Not helped by adults around them singing "on the pitch, on the pitch". It does not give Flinders the right to dish out his own retribution. It was up to the police and the stewards to deal with. Also, even if he felt compelled to get involved, just pull them off the pitch. No need for such forceful aggression on kids by a grown man. As I said in another thread, if I did that to a kid on the streets, I'd be arrested. I know the kid was fine and worse happens in the playground but he could have seriously hurt someone if they had landed at an angle.

Bottle throwing disgraceful, will cost the club. Verbal abuse to Flinders, deserved. Can't blame people for being angry about that.

Overall, silly behaviour from young children. But disgusting aggressive behaviour by a grown man.

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First kid looked like he fell on his neck.
New Road there was a load of cheers and clapping for Flinders but ****ing hell he could of just held the kid and handed him to a steward.

But BFC need to loo kat the stewarding, like I said in a previous thread, not one of them stewards is forecful and who where the boys in blue hiv viz's today, When the keeper and invasion was going on one baldy head blue boy was right next ot the kid at one point and made no attempt to get him ! It's a joke.

To sum up:

Stupid kids. Looks bad for BFC again, isnt this the 3rd or 4th bottle / throwing incident this year?

Flinders OTT but did the right thing getting him off, then we al lwould have clapped and would be laughin at the kids and no bottles woulda been thrown.
 
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I would have done something similar if somebody came into my workplace when important things were happening and the security people were unwilling to remove the individual. The 'keeper can claim his safety was threatened and the stewards were not acting. My child thought his actions were fair.
I'm not defending the kids in any way, but these were youngsters prancing around the pitch like a pair of w*nkers behind the GK, in no way was his safety in question. They were half his bloody size and age!
 

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This country.................

Those kids and their guardians were out of order but Flinders had no right or need to get involved as there are people (supposedly) specifically employed to deal with those situations.

As it will soon be illegal to clap inside a football ground, I advise you all to consider voluntary amputation of at least one hand this Summer.
But not the right hand.........;)
 

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If the keeper had handed the kids over to the stewards and not thrown them to the ground, this thread would'nt exist! No bottles would have been thrown etc........:nono:
 
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If the keeper had handed the kids over to the stewards and not thrown them to the ground, this thread would'nt exist! No bottles would have been thrown etc........:nono:
If the kids hadn't been on the pitch in the first place this thread wouldn't exist.
 

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They were half his bloody size and age!
indeed, no child in london under 6 foot and under 16 years old has ever stabbed anyone else, the keeper should know there is no such thing as knife crime in our capital city.


still furious about the bottle throwing cowardly scum. we have a 250 + post thread condemning luton and yet some of our number behave like this. at least the luton had the bottle to actually have a real go instead of acting like our bunch of faggots.
 

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It was funny when he caught them but the throwing was mental. They could have been seriously hurt, stupid for them to run on in the first place.
Bottle throwers were waankers, have a look at yourself this morning, I hope you don't like what you see.
 

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Children should only be allowed in if they can write a gramatically correct sentence.
 

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Don't think keeper was wrong at all, just a bit ott with the 2nd Moron. Would have helped if the stewards had something quicker. I for one applauded Flinders.
 

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Not a BIAS statement

Flinders was right, right and right again. Maybe he should have tried drop kicking the second one over the Ealing Road stand but I'll settle for both of them being dumped on their backsides. Doubtless a weeping mother somewhere is busy telling the Hounslow Chronicle how her boy has never done anything wrong in his life and is very kind to animals and will then move on to an assault charge against the 'keeper. Personally, I'd like to hire him as Head of Security.

Amazing that after all those years of pleading for us to stay off the pitch with stewards, police and horses being deployed, this is the first year I can remember people actually staying off the pitch. And it's the first year that someone has actually done something about the junior league morons. What a coincidence.

As to the behaviour of the people who threw bottles at him from the Ealing Road end and those who turned up at the front of the Club to abuse the Hartlepool goalkeeper and throw beer at him...words almost fail me. Apart from pleeeease will someone from the Club ban these people? They're looking for a fight, not looking to support Brentford and are an embarrassment for all of us.
I was going to write a comment but this so totally sums up my thoughts - people moan about the youth problem and then moan if anyone tackles it - never seen the players come back onto the pitch so quickly, lucky as I had work at 6.30pm - have to thank Flinders I guess!
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Let's remember that with all that went on yesterday kids on the pitch, bottle throwers, chavs chasing the keeper and scenes outside after the game are all what makes this country such a great footballing nation. After all they are only getting in training and warming up for the World Cup. :rolleyes::fishing:
 

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Our stewards are useless have not seen one ever mutter a word to anyone, dont know how much they get but I bet its atleast £10 per hour and thats not bad!
 

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This is a very long thread and I have given up half way through it.Kids running on a pitch during the match fully deserve any thing they receive.The bottle throwers are as bad.Our society is going down hill and taking our club with it.I was hoping for a new government who would try to re-install morals and responsibility along with tougher laws,the pc brigade make me feel sick as our once great country self destructs.
 

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Fact is, we ask to be treated like adults and not have OTT stewarding, then let ourselves down by not taking responsibility for our actions

End-of-season pitch invasions wouldn't be a problem if there weren't hundreds of brentford chavs running straight to the away end to goad and posture behind the safety of a police line.

I hate OTT stewarding but the more I see of our support's inability to act in a mature way the more I see us pushed towards col u-style robocop snatch squads targeting troublemakers and adopting the default position of everyone's a hooligan until proven innocent. I don't want to watch football in that environment every week, it's bad enough at away games.
 

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Our stewards are useless have not seen one ever mutter a word to anyone, dont know how much they get but I bet its atleast £10 per hour and thats not bad!
That's because most of them can't speak English
 

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I'm with Flinders, if I'd done that as a kid (which of course I wouldn't have), my father would have congratulated the keeper and probably done it again to me just to remind me what a ***** I was.

Also bottle throwers = ****s.
 

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It is worrying that over recent seasons we are begining to get a reputation for not being able to control our fans.

Standing in the Ealing Road I am saddened by the behaviour of the children that stand behind the goal, they are not funny and nor are they clever in their chants in the main, however that is perhaps more to do with society than anything else.

However there antics with bottle throwing are now begining to get beyond a joke and slowly Brentford is getting an reputation for trouble which has a 2 fold effect. On the one hand the number of fines the club receives increases and on the other new potential fans probably dont bother to return, both of these seriousley effect our chances of increasing the playing budget to get better players and eventualy play at a higher division.

I would hope that the mentally challenged children who stand behind the goal will today be considering their actions ....but I guess they will be too proud of themselves. Therefore it has been shown that Ealing Road supporters cannot behave so therefore some form of stewarding is now necessary untill such a time as these children grow up and can be trusted to behave in society.
 

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I wasn't there and haven't seen it; but whatever the rights and wrongs of the action he took one should make some allowance for his own 'state of mind' for want of a better word.

Doubtless he is as passionate about his Club and keen to do his best as Chesney and Charlie are about us; for the last third of the Season he has done his best to keep his Club up, more or less succeeded only to be b******ed by a stupid administrative foul up that cost Hartlepool three points. He wouldn't have known the precise state of play at Gillingham, Exeter and Tranmere and thought his Team had to get something from the game to survive.

Then some immature, stupid and unsupervised kids needlessly charge all round him and break his concentration; just like the Liverpool beachball kinda thing; potentially huge consequences leading from something stupid that should never have/been allowed to happen; he should be cut some slack IMHO and the real people responsible revolves around our Stewarding System.
 

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Three young 'fans' on the pitch in the last few minutes, shouldn't of been there. Though the reaction of the goalkeeper seemed completely ott. These were fans of around 10-12 years old and he completely man handles them, chucking them to the ground

We will probably get a fine from the reaction of ER pelting him with bottles, but did he insight this? Think he should of left the kids alone and let the stewards do what they are paid for.
The same stewards who sat and watched as they were running around the goalmouth? :wave:
 

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