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What’s everyone thinking?

I’d like to see Fosu given a chance at right back, not necessarily as a permanent solution - but we know Henrik is no longer a wing back and also no longer capable of playing at 100% in a 3 game week. Plus, I think Mbeumo will find it easier to cut in on his left if he’s got a pacy wing back overlapping him.

I also think Marcondes is due a start. Ghoddos failed to impress enough to retain his midfield spot but we do need more goals than Jensen offers currently.

Finally, I refuse to pick between Ghoddos and Canos for left wing because neither deserve to start. Hence my inclusion of Joe Adams. I know he obviously won’t play, it’s just me making a point. We’ve got Valencia, Dervisoglu and Zamburek out on loan at the moment, I reckon all three would be a shout to start there atm.

Raya
Fosu Jansson Pinnock Henry
Janelt
Marcondes Dasilva
Mbeumo Toney Adams
 

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My starting 11 v Barnsley

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Pontus
Dalsgaard

Janelt
Da Silva
Jensen

Fosu
Toney
Forss

- Leaving out Mbuemo is harsh as for getting 5 assists's so far this season but isn't beating his man as a winger should and isn't being constant enough and isn't starting for international teams(only coming on as a sub for France u21)

Giving Forss a chance on the wing could be quite handy as he can change his position to play with Toney and keep the pressure high unlike Bryan

Toney needs ball-playing defenders to pass the ball between the lines as we did with Watkins last season and Pinnock

Although Sorensen did well vs Wycombe i still think he is handy and if pinnock is still injured with his 'Dead leg' then I would switch them out.
 

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Don't think Fosu did much when he came on but Canos just looks lost at the moment so we need to try something different. Even if it's only to confirm we need to get someone in in Jan.. Movement up front was massively lacking and we didn't get any midfielders in the box so I'd bring Marcondes back in to help bring that energy and support for Toney. Janelt back in too so JDS isn't so deep.. Pinnock back if fit please. MBS did very well again but we could do with someone bringing the ball out a bit from defence and currently Pinnock is the only one capable..

Raya, Dalsgaard, Pontus, Pinnock, Henry, Janelt, DaSilva, Marcondes, Fosu, Toney, Mbeumo.

Subs: Daniels, Thompson, Stevens, Sorenson, Jensen, Canos, Ghoddos, Forss, Joe Adams (B team winger)
 

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Don't think Fosu did much when he came on but Canos just looks lost at the moment so we need to try something different. Even if it's only to confirm we need to get someone in in Jan.. Movement up front was massively lacking and we didn't get any midfielders in the box so I'd bring Marcondes back in to help bring that energy and support for Toney. Janelt back in too so JDS isn't so deep.. Pinnock back if fit please. MBS did very well again but we could do with someone bringing the ball out a bit from defence and currently Pinnock is the only one capable..

Raya, Dalsgaard, Pontus, Pinnock, Henry, Janelt, DaSilva, Marcondes, Fosu, Toney, Mbeumo.

Subs: Daniels, Thompson, Stevens, Sorenson, Jensen, Canos, Ghoddos, Forss, Joe Adams (B team winger)
Agree with this, just one swap and that would be Jensen for Marcondes. Don’t think Fosu is up to it but there’s no one else good enough to play there atm.
 

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Agree with this, just one swap and that would be Jensen for Marcondes. Don’t think Fosu is up to it but there’s no one else good enough to play there atm.
I agree with this but I'd only bring Marcondes on for janelt after 65 mins + only because it gives Da Silva and Jensen creativity and enough to get in and have shots. (unlike today)

Just cause Jensen was doing most of the heavy lifting and its starting to become more and more visible of how much we miss Norgarrd
 

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I'll be honest, for the first time in a good few years, I'm not really bothered who he picks, as I can't see what difference it's going to make. Having CN back will clearly strengthen the middle, but it won't solve all our problems. All I know is recently, various combinations haven't worked and there are too many players either out of form, lacking in confidence or not up to it. I would just like TF to have a system which the players know and understand and go back to letting the oppo worry about our attacking threat. How they do this, I haven't the foggiest.
 
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Stick to the tried and tested 433. Pinnock in for MBS if fit.

Janelt for Ghoddos.

God knows who to start on the wing.

Maybe Marcondes and Fosu.
We just have to hope the passengers start performing. .
 

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I am hoping Fin Stevens will get some game time, I just hope TF isnt going to wait for us to be 3-0 up before bringing him on. Who knows when or if that will happen
 

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Raya, Pontus, MBS (Pinnock if fit), Rico, JDS, Jensen, Toney start. Then it becomes a question of making the best of what we have. Janelt provides balance in midfield. No obvious replacement available for Henrik so he stays in.
Stick to the tried and tested 433. Pinnock in for MBS if fit.

Janelt for Ghoddos.

God knows who to start on the wing.

Maybe Marcondes and Fosu.
We just have to hope the passengers start performing. .
The problem at the moment is that some players are starting without earning that start. For any fringe player, this is surely their chance to cement a first team place. (Marcondes springs to mind. He should look to Mads Bech for inspiration) The coaches see what we see. The data tells a story. Repeated underwhelming performances will only result in loan moves away. Everything is to play for at the moment. This team isn't picking itself.
 

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HD PJ Pinnock Rico
JDS Janelt Jensen
Mbeumo Toney Ghoddos

Dont get the Mbuemo bashing, was the best out of the front three today. Would also try playing Ghoddos in the role we presumably bought him for.
 

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JDS Janelt Jensen
Mbeumo Toney Ghoddos

Dont get the Mbuemo bashing, was the best out of the front three today. Would also try playing Ghoddos in the role we presumably bought him for.
He was the better out of the front three today and was unlucky not to score today. wouldn't call it a bashing tho
 

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Can't see any harm putting Marcondes on the left of the front 3 tbh.
Not his best position but given a freer role in the way Said often played that role with cover from Rico then not a bad shout. Janelt will in turn give defence additional cover as well so allowing Rico to act as an auxiliary winger so Marcondes can support Toney
 

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Raya
Henrik Jansson Pinnock Henry
Jensen Janelt
Mbuemo Ghoddas Da Silva
Toney
 

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...said TF.
We've seriously missed his movement up front and pressing in the last couple of games. The front four were so static and no-one was getting close to Toney or making runs into the box from midfield.. Not sure left wing is ideal for him but at least it would get some mobility and variety into the attack. Not convinced swapping Canos out for Fosu isn't just going to bring in the same problems we have now..
 

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Raya
HD PJ Pinnock Rico
JDS Janelt Jensen
Mbeumo Toney Ghoddos

Dont get the Mbuemo bashing, was the best out of the front three today. Would also try playing Ghoddos in the role we presumably bought him for.
Agree that is the most likely team from TF, although he may rest Jensen for EM
 

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What’s everyone thinking?

I’d like to see Fosu given a chance at right back, not necessarily as a permanent solution - but we know Henrik is no longer a wing back and also no longer capable of playing at 100% in a 3 game week. Plus, I think Mbeumo will find it easier to cut in on his left if he’s got a pacy wing back overlapping him.

I also think Marcondes is due a start. Ghoddos failed to impress enough to retain his midfield spot but we do need more goals than Jensen offers currently.

Finally, I refuse to pick between Ghoddos and Canos for left wing because neither deserve to start. Hence my inclusion of Joe Adams. I know he obviously won’t play, it’s just me making a point. We’ve got Valencia, Dervisoglu and Zamburek out on loan at the moment, I reckon all three would be a shout to start there atm.

Raya
Fosu Jansson Pinnock Henry
Janelt
Marcondes Dasilva
Mbeumo Toney Adams
Toney Adams surely not ?😂😂
 

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Ghoddos has been a massive disappointment thus far IMO.
I am pleased it's only an option to buy and not an obligation that's for sure presently.
Cannot quite work out his best position but for me he is not a winger as has no pace.
 

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Ghoddos has been a massive disappointment thus far IMO.
I am pleased it's only an option to buy and not an obligation that's for sure presently.
Cannot quite work out his best position but for me he is not a winger as has no pace.
I thought it was stated that it was an obligation to buy (as SB), which personally I was concerned about.
Sorry but I have yet to see anything about the guy, he is 27 so I doubt there is developement potential
in him, we just have to hope that additional fitness and weight reduction gives us the player we hope he is.
 

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IMHO, there's two big question marks.

First (and I think away at Barnsley it's a must), in the absence of Nørgaard, start Janelt in the midfield holding position and not try to use any other player combination sitting there. That also allows our best two midfielders in the forward midfield positions to actually play in the forward midfield positions, Jensen and Dasilva, although I can see an argument for starting Marcondes there for rotation.

Second, what to do about the left attacking place? Clearly, Canós needs to be rotated but also he's just not delivering in the position. Ghoddos has been tried but to little effect, similarly Fosu. As Les suggests, maybe put Marcondes there but that's a bit 'square peg/round hole'. Given the players available, I can't see an answer. Toney, with Forss central? Henry, with Thompson left back?
 

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Make no mistake Barnsley are not a poor side, they are one point behind us and will be brimming with confidence after their last encounter with us. I wouldn't like to guess TF's starting line up but please no Marcondes or Canos.
 

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IMHO, there's two big question marks.

First (and I think away at Barnsley it's a must), in the absence of Nørgaard, start Janelt in the midfield holding position and not try to use any other player combination sitting there. That also allows our best two midfielders in the forward midfield positions to actually play in the forward midfield positions, Jensen and Dasilva, although I can see an argument for starting Marcondes there for rotation.

Second, what to do about the left attacking place? Clearly, Canós needs to be rotated but also he's just not delivering in the position. Ghoddos has been tried but to little effect, similarly Fosu. As Les suggests, maybe put Marcondes there but that's a bit 'square peg/round hole'. Given the players available, I can't see an answer. Toney, with Forss central? Henry, with Thompson left back?

a FBT front three maybe a good shout .Or Thompson and Henry as you say
 

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IMHO, there's two big question marks.

First (and I think away at Barnsley it's a must), in the absence of Nørgaard, start Janelt in the midfield holding position and not try to use any other player combination sitting there. That also allows our best two midfielders in the forward midfield positions to actually play in the forward midfield positions, Jensen and Dasilva, although I can see an argument for starting Marcondes there for rotation.

Second, what to do about the left attacking place? Clearly, Canós needs to be rotated but also he's just not delivering in the position. Ghoddos has been tried but to little effect, similarly Fosu. As Les suggests, maybe put Marcondes there but that's a bit 'square peg/round hole'. Given the players available, I can't see an answer. Toney, with Forss central? Henry, with Thompson left back?
Jeez, desperation really is setting in if Marcondes on the left suddenly becomes the solution: his abilities have clearly improved significantly during his run out of the side!

Less of a 'square peg/round hole' scenario would be for us to play ostensibly a midfield four with JDS advanced on the left, and Ghoddas (or Marcondes if we must) behind the strikers (Toney and Mbuemo) and in front of Janelt and Jensen.
 

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Marcondes

433, no going long, no long throws, go back to what served us so well last season.
I agree overall but perhaps a positional switch between DaSilva and Marcondes. For me we need the left attacking outlet and Josh at times in games has shown he can provide it. If it doesn't work, the switch back to your formation can be done during the game.
 

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I'd consider a diamond midfield and 2 upfront to allow both Toney and Forss to play together, but Barnsley away probably isn't the place to try that.

So I'd keep the 4-3-3 and try to improve our wingers. Not sure which one to go for, but I think our best options are:

1. Start with one of Forss and Toney on the left. They're both very much number nines, but at least they're in form and could swap during the game.

2. Move Dasilva to the right wing and play Mbeumo on the left. That would leave Jensen and Emiliano to play centrally. We might miss Dasilva in the middle, but we know he can be really effective out wide.

3. Stick with Ghoddos on the left and hope he plays himself into form with more Championship game time.
 

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I agree overall but perhaps a positional switch between DaSilva and Marcondes. For me we need the left attacking outlet and Josh at times in games has shown he can provide it. If it doesn't work, the switch back to your formation can be done during the game.
Seems our posts coincided and suggested pretty much the same thing!!! :imwith:
 

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Seems our posts coincided and suggested pretty much the same thing!!! :imwith:
Marcondes and Da Silva are clever players and certainly can change roles during a game one paying left of attack (starting with Marcondes) and switching as and when. Da Silva set up the Mbeumo chance by effectively playing as a left winger.

Use Canos as a sub for the right side of attack where he feels and looks more comfortable.
 

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I would be over the moon to see this starting 11, even though I know it won’t happen 👎🏻
 

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Make no mistake Barnsley are not a poor side, they are one point behind us and will be brimming with confidence after their last encounter with us. I wouldn't like to guess TF's starting line up but please no Marcondes or Canos.
Well our last two inept, flat, boring, toothless performances (which are as bad as its been for a long time) have been without him starting or getting minutes. So IMO its no coincidence that we've tailed off in the attacking third since he was dropped. Before that we conceded two very late goals to decent sides in Swansea and Norwich. Cant do any worse then some that have been out there in the last 2 games.
 

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Raya, Dalsgaard, Pontus, Pinnock, Henry, Janelt, DaSilva, Jensen, Marcondes, Toney, Mbeumo.
 

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Raya, Dalsgaard, Pontus, Pinnock, Henry, Janelt, DaSilva, Jensen, Adams, Toney, Mbeumo.

Subs: Daniels, Thompson, Stevens, Sorenson, Marcondes, Canos, Ghoddos, Forss, Valgeirsson
 

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Ghoddos has been a massive disappointment thus far IMO.
I am pleased it's only an option to buy and not an obligation that's for sure presently.
Cannot quite work out his best position but for me he is not a winger as has no pace.
We’ve bought him mate, the loan part means nothing. Hopefully he’ll find his feet soon , still early days
 

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Jansson
Dalsgaard
Janelt
Dasilva
Jensen
Fosu
Toney
Mbuemo

Subs: Daniels Thompson Marcondes Sorenson Stevens Canos Ghoddos Forss Hammar

Frankly the team should pick itself aside from the left hand side where nobody has put their hand up and showed enough to warrant a guaranteed start yet. Had enough of Sergi now so between Fosu and Ghoddos.
 

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At the moment there are eight players who I would automatically start with if fit - Raya, Dalsgaard, Jansen, Pinnock, Henry, Jensen, DaSilva, Toney. I would persevere with Mbuemo who I thought showed some encouraging glimmers on Saturday. Would also start with Janelt as defensive midfield to give Jensen and DaSilva more opportunity to get forward. We need their skill to transition effectively from defence to attack. Fosu probably deserves a start - difficult to judge his effectiveness when he gets such limited game time. Canos clearly needs a rest and Ghoddos is not making a mark. Maybe we should bring in Thompson at full back and put Rico forward. He has pace, strength, control and imagination - attributes that have sadly deserted Sergi but hopefully only temporarily. Think we should all remember that it's less than a month since we were unlucky not to beat Norwich who are now league leaders. No point in peaking too soon. Norgaard's return will be a huge boost and if we can get Baptiste and Roesleve back as well it will be like having three new signings.
 

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At the moment there are eight players who I would automatically start with if fit - Raya, Dalsgaard, Jansen, Pinnock, Henry, Jensen, DaSilva, Toney. I would persevere with Mbuemo who I thought showed some encouraging glimmers on Saturday. Would also start with Janelt as defensive midfield to give Jensen and DaSilva more opportunity to get forward. We need their skill to transition effectively from defence to attack. Fosu probably deserves a start - difficult to judge his effectiveness when he gets such limited game time. Canos clearly needs a rest and Ghoddos is not making a mark. Maybe we should bring in Thompson at full back and put Rico forward. He has pace, strength, control and imagination - attributes that have sadly deserted Sergi but hopefully only temporarily. Think we should all remember that it's less than a month since we were unlucky not to beat Norwich who are now league leaders. No point in peaking too soon. Norgaard's return will be a huge boost and if we can get Baptiste and Roesleve back as well it will be like having three new signings.
If you were to try Thompson and Henry on the left together, I would have Thompson in front of Rico as I thought his crossing was better.
 

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SUBS: Daniels, Mbuemo, Fosu, Janelt/Marcondes, Ghoddos, Stevens, Thompson, Canos, etc
 

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Don't forget we're also play Friday - just three days later. TF will want to keep some players fresh for that.
Terrible scheduling by the EFL given QPR have a 7pm KO at home t'row and we'll not got back until Wednesday early hrs......imo should never have been a Friday night game given the ridiculous schedule of fixtures this autumn.

PS....TF can't use that as an excuse if we get pumped by that lot on Friday night btw.
 

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