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Then start next season on -12.they will be desperate to finish 12 points clear of relegation obviously now.
Then start next season on -12.they will be desperate to finish 12 points clear of relegation obviously now.
i,d say the reverse. How can you motivate yourself when you might be out of a job and/ be in League 1.? Hammer blow.They are going to be up for this now...
I wondered that...or I wonder if they'd particularly care? You'd assume a lot of their better players probably know they don't have much in the way of a future there now?oh my word. and they were on such a good run too! that is really disappointing for them.
also potentially bad news for us - they will be desperate to finish 12 points clear of relegation obviously now. They'll have 4 points to make up currently... and based on their current run they will totally believe they can do it. They'll be playing for their lives.
No danger of that at this late stage.What if they don't complete the season and their playing record expunged, how will that affect things?
Is Whelans grandson still chairman?They only stopped getting parachute payments two years ago..... unbelievable mismanagement.
Whelan snr sold them and they were immediately sold again. Coffee smell wake up FLOnce again players & supporters see their team possibly relegated through no fault of their own. The EFL have to take responsibility at how clubs are administered. Maybe run the league as a franchise.
It might not be the "fault" (responsibility) of fans or players when this happens (though I can't recall many fans protesting against their club signing a player on the basis that "We can't afford him").Once again players & supporters see their team possibly relegated through no fault of their own. The EFL have to take responsibility at how clubs are administered. Maybe run the league as a franchise.
One for the administrators to decide i'd imagine.Hopefully a few of their key players walk out before Saturday :shrug:
Unless that is COVID related, how on earth are they in a position where they owner needs to put in £36.5 million a year?Sheffield Wendys could be next - apparently their owner Chansiri having to put in 100k PER DAY and some players not paid today - could severely impact us if they can't be arsed against WBA later.
https://www.owlstalk.co.uk/forums/topic/290511-swfc-finances-a-major-worry/#comments
Its fine the chairman has promised to pay them what is owed and a bonus if they win todaySheffield Wendys could be next - apparently their owner Chansiri having to put in 100k PER DAY and some players not paid today - could severely impact us if they can't be arsed against WBA later.
https://www.owlstalk.co.uk/forums/topic/290511-swfc-finances-a-major-worry/#comments
Fire Sale more likely - administrators will want their fee before anything else apart from the tax man who get first dibs..Hopefully a few of their key players walk out before Saturday :shrug:
Tax man does not get first dibs. In September 2003 the Inland Revenue and VAT's preferential status was abolished under the Enterprise Act 2002.Fire Sale more likely - administrators will want their fee before anything else apart from the tax man who get first dibs..
What? Our chairman (or owner)?Its fine the chairman has promised to pay them what is owed and a bonus if they win today![]()
Thanks for clarifying. Thought it was back already. Think a lot of people will take 'advantage' of going bust before December, then!Tax man does not get first dibs. In September 2003 the Inland Revenue and VAT's preferential status was abolished under the Enterprise Act 2002.
They get back their status in Dec 2020 however.
Don't "football" debts get settled first and the HMRC stand in line like every one else?Tax man does not get first dibs. In September 2003 the Inland Revenue and VAT's preferential status was abolished under the Enterprise Act 2002.
They get back their status in Dec 2020 however.
I think he is probably right as he nearly always is.Current owners only in place a few weeks and club losing circa £9m pa so need significant funding. By going into administration they will significantly reduce their liabilities.
Simon Jordan does not accept Covid-19 as a reason and believes it to be somewhat sharp practice, points out missing just a few home games only amounts to a small amount of money in comparison with the overall losses.
Hardly likely to say they were fed up and were going to roll over and have their tummies tickled were they?a couple of their players have already come out and said something to that effect.
yes.Don't we prefer clubs who come looking to win rather than park the bus?
I agree, the only way I can see to deal with this is an upfront bond made at the time of purchase by the purchasing body. Would change the game overnightIt might not be the "fault" (responsibility) of fans or players when this happens (though I can't recall many fans protesting against their club signing a player on the basis that "We can't afford him").
But there has to be some penalty to prevent uncaring/idiotic/unscrupulous owners just spending money they shouldn't, then walking away when it all goes tits up.
And as we've seen for years now (eg QPR), financial penalties aren't good enough, especially for clubs which actually go into administration, where by definition you can't/won't get your money back anyway.
There is no problem, as long as it is someone else’s money.Crikey, the Wednesday thread is worrying. A major theme is that the losses aren’t the 100k per day in the headline.
It’s all rubbish they say - because when you do the figures the losses only work out at 75k per day over three years - so just relax and ignore the story.
Just 75k per day for three years, works out at less than £100 million, so what’s the problem?
You’re playing for a contact elsewhere. This could be our toughest game or they will collapse. Very hard to call this one, even before today’s news.i,d say the reverse. How can you motivate yourself when you might be out of a job and/ be in League 1.? Hammer blow.
There's bound to be the thought nagging at the back of Wigan players' minds even while they're playing: Will they still be at this club next season? Will the club still be in the Championship?I'm in the camp that reckon they'll be fired up, a couple of their players have already come out and said something to that effect. They clearly have ability and team spirit, I reckon they'll see it as a 'fighting against the odds' story. They're also 4 points off safety, not 10 or 11, they can do it and they know that!
As said earlier, we just have to go out and beat them. Feel for them yes, but let them recover in their own time. I hope that they do it...but not by beating us.
When I played football and obviously I wasn't a pro, when the game started I never used to think about what I was going to do after the game let alone that night or next season. I doubt they will be too distracted for 90 mins.There's bound to be the thought nagging at the back of Wigan players' minds even while they're playing: Will they still be at this club next season? Will the club still be in the Championship?
That said, it's better that they field a team performing to the peak of their ability and that Brentford beat them fair and square.
I strongly suspect a few of them already know the answer to thatThere's bound to be the thought nagging at the back of Wigan players' minds even while they're playing: Will they still be at this club next season? Will the club still be in the Championship?
That said, it's better that they field a team performing to the peak of their ability and that Brentford beat them fair and square.
Seems v low, given our current form!Since news of administration broke,Wigan’s odds of beating us have lengthened a bit to 6/1 (Skybet). Seems v high, given their current form.
Could have the opposite effect? They've put all that effort in over the last few months and suddenly they're back to square one, potentially not being paid etc etc.. Quite demoralising I'd have thought. Anyway, doesn't really change the fact that we need to beat them and that at our best we're more than capable of that..Honestly it's hard to predict whether it will make the game easier or harder for us, but my worry/instinct is it will actually make the game harder. It will galvanise them (it's absolutely none of the squads fault in any way remember) when they may have been about to start to relax somewhat being 8 points clear.
We just need to do our bit, show no sympathy unfortunately.
Or they'll try even harder.Didn't think hotel overnights were happening anyway ? Anyway I think this is excellent news for sat...players won't give a sh*t anymore
Hoop and stick.Hopefully it means that any hotel overnighter isn't happening any more, instead they will each by cycling down on the day
We could tell the EFL that everybody will save all round by them awarding us a 1-0 win and 3 points....Didn't think hotel overnights were happening anyway ? Anyway I think this is excellent news for sat...players won't give a sh*t anymore
Classic example of demotivation was when Noades informed half of our squad that their contracts wouldnt be renewed before our playoff with Stoke.You’re playing for a contact elsewhere. This could be our toughest game or they will collapse. Very hard to call this one, even before today’s news.
Supporters’ boat trip next year! In the unlikely event that we are in the same divisionThey are too late to travel on t' canal thy knows.
This is a trip of 254 miles, 2½ furlongs and 179 locks from Wigan Dry Dock Visitor Moorings to Brentford Marina.
This will take 129 hours which is 18 days, 3 hours at 7 hours per day.
Yep totally agree. I was the same. It was my escape from work and every day dross.When I played football and obviously I wasn't a pro, when the game started I never used to think about what I was going to do after the game let alone that night or next season. I doubt they will be too distracted for 90 mins.