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FIFA can, at their sole discretion, amend venues, kick-off times and World Cup competition rules. USA - Belgium has been moved from Seattle to
and USA will play right to left all game.
and USA will play right to left all game.
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R16: USA 1-4 Belgium
Yep hopefully every non US citizen on here will be hoping for Belgium tonight after the nonsense from yesterday regarding the red card being suspended
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Carri Bee Un
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When I was 17 my belgian girlfriend's mum offered me cocaine and I was too stunned to take her up on it.
In retrospect that was a miss but hopefully the Belgians don't miss tomorrow and justice is carried out.
Belgian till I die etc
In retrospect that was a miss but hopefully the Belgians don't miss tomorrow and justice is carried out.
Belgian till I die etc
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Similar here @bexleybee
Up ‘til this I was kind of ‘wouldn’t cross the road to p!ss on them if they were on fire’ but now I really don’t like them very much at all.
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I have a feeling that there will be some shocking refereeing decisions in this game and the USA will go through. Trump and FIFA just don’t care how it looks; they believe they’re beyond punishment.
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R16: USA 1-4 Belgium
Yet another reason to dislike usa even more.
I hope Belgium stuff them good and proper.
I hope Belgium stuff them good and proper.
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R16: USA 1-4 Belgium
Jaw dropping (if not surprising) from today’s Trump press conference:That wasn't a foul' - Trump
President Donald Trump on his phone call with Gianni Infantino: "I spoke to Gianni... I saw the play. I'm a person that loves sports and was a good athlete. I understand sports really well. Really well. That wasn't a foul. That was two guys running full speed that happened to crash into each other."‘Referee made a call nobody could believe’
Trump continues: "This referee, who is a little bit suspect. If you check his past, I don't want to say that because I don't like to create controversy, but very suspect... if you like I'll provide you with the past."He made a call that nobody could believe. Even people on the other side, they were saying 'we got lucky, wow'."
Red card 'very unfair'
Trump says Balogun is USA's best player, or one of their best players, adding: "He [Balogun] didn't do anything wrong. He's our best player, or one of our best players, and the referee gave him a red card. I didn't know what that meant. I didn't think it meant much."Then I started hearing that means he can't play in the next game - at least the next game. If it happened to another player that would have been unfair but when they take your best player or just about - they have some great players - and they say you can't play, that is very unfair."
I asked for a review by Fifa'
Donald Trump: "It's one thing to penalise somebody for the game, but how do you penalise them for a game that hasn't been played yet? It's very unfair, you can't do that."Yes, I asked for a review by Fifa. I spoke to a man who is highly respected, who's level of respect has gone up tenfold, and he was good before this started but he really pushed it in this country. I'm the one who got them to do it [bring the World Cup to America]. It was not [Joe] Biden. I got the Olympics and I got the World Cup. We gave a little piece to Canada, a little piece to Mexico, but I got that myself."
They made the right decision'
Trump continues: "All I did was I asked for a review because I didn't think it was a foul. Again, I'm good at this stuff. I didn't think it was a foul. I thought it was two great athletes who crashed into each other and got entangled. That was not a guy punching somebody in the face or anything that would be different."If they wouldn't allow a top player, maybe among the best players on the team, to play, I think it would have had a big stain and I related just that feeling. I didn't tell them what to do. I can't tell them what to do. I don't believe he [Infantino] made the decision, I think it was a committee that made the decision, and they made the right decision because number one it wasn't a foul, and you want to see a game with your best players. How would you feel if you took [Lionel] Messi, or [Cristiano] Ronaldo or Harry Kane out? You can't do that. We gotta have our best players and Belgium's got a great team by the way. We gotta have our best and they gotta have their best. And if we win or we lose, it's fair."
'Wow, that's a lot of power'
Trump continues: "I think the referee's call was horrible and nobody talks about that. The referee's decision to red card - I didn't know what the hell a red card was. When I found out I said, 'you gotta be kidding'. This guy just hands out... 'ok, your best player's next going to play next week or in the next game'. I said 'wow, that's a lot of power'. Then I looked at his [the referee's] past, and... it wasn't so great."
World Cup 2026: Balogun available for USA v Belgium after Spain play Portugal
Folarin Balogun to play for USA against Belgium as Lamine Yamal's Spain play Cristiano Ronaldo & Portugal at the 2026 Fifa World Cup.
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Asides from Trump continuing to plumb depths previously thought to be unplumbable it really tickles me for some reason that he actually knows who Harry Kane is. Not something I expected at all.
That wasn't a foul' - Trump
President Donald Trump on his phone call with Gianni Infantino: "I spoke to Gianni... I saw the play. I'm a person that loves sports and was a good athlete. I understand sports really well. Really well. That wasn't a foul. That was two guys running full speed that happened to crash into each other."
‘Referee made a call nobody could believe’
Trump continues: "This referee, who is a little bit suspect. If you check his past, I don't want to say that because I don't like to create controversy, but very suspect... if you like I'll provide you with the past.
"He made a call that nobody could believe. Even people on the other side, they were saying 'we got lucky, wow'."
Red card 'very unfair'
Trump says Balogun is USA's best player, or one of their best players, adding: "He [Balogun] didn't do anything wrong. He's our best player, or one of our best players, and the referee gave him a red card. I didn't know what that meant. I didn't think it meant much.
"Then I started hearing that means he can't play in the next game - at least the next game. If it happened to another player that would have been unfair but when they take your best player or just about - they have some great players - and they say you can't play, that is very unfair."
I asked for a review by Fifa'
Donald Trump: "It's one thing to penalise somebody for the game, but how do you penalise them for a game that hasn't been played yet? It's very unfair, you can't do that.
"Yes, I asked for a review by Fifa. I spoke to a man who is highly respected, who's level of respect has gone up tenfold, and he was good before this started but he really pushed it in this country. I'm the one who got them to do it [bring the World Cup to America]. It was not [Joe] Biden. I got the Olympics and I got the World Cup. We gave a little piece to Canada, a little piece to Mexico, but I got that myself."
They made the right decision'
Trump continues: "All I did was I asked for a review because I didn't think it was a foul. Again, I'm good at this stuff. I didn't think it was a foul. I thought it was two great athletes who crashed into each other and got entangled. That was not a guy punching somebody in the face or anything that would be different.
"If they wouldn't allow a top player, maybe among the best players on the team, to play, I think it would have had a big stain and I related just that feeling. I didn't tell them what to do. I can't tell them what to do. I don't believe he [Infantino] made the decision, I think it was a committee that made the decision, and they made the right decision because number one it wasn't a foul, and you want to see a game with your best players. How would you feel if you took [Lionel] Messi, or [Cristiano] Ronaldo or Harry Kane out? You can't do that. We gotta have our best players and Belgium's got a great team by the way. We gotta have our best and they gotta have their best. And if we win or we lose, it's fair."
World Cup 2026: Balogun available for USA v Belgium after Spain play Portugal
Folarin Balogun to play for USA against Belgium as Lamine Yamal's Spain play Cristiano Ronaldo & Portugal at the 2026 Fifa World Cup.
Jezybee
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R16: USA 1-4 Belgium
That wasn't a foul' - Trump
President Donald Trump on his phone call with Gianni Infantino: "I spoke to Gianni... I saw the play. I'm a person that loves sports and was a good athlete. I understand sports really well. Really well. That wasn't a foul. That was two guys running full speed that happened to crash into each other."
‘Referee made a call nobody could believe’
Trump continues: "This referee, who is a little bit suspect. If you check his past, I don't want to say that because I don't like to create controversy, but very suspect... if you like I'll provide you with the past.
"He made a call that nobody could believe. Even people on the other side, they were saying 'we got lucky, wow'."
Red card 'very unfair'
Trump says Balogun is USA's best player, or one of their best players, adding: "He [Balogun] didn't do anything wrong. He's our best player, or one of our best players, and the referee gave him a red card. I didn't know what that meant. I didn't think it meant much.
"Then I started hearing that means he can't play in the next game - at least the next game. If it happened to another player that would have been unfair but when they take your best player or just about - they have some great players - and they say you can't play, that is very unfair."
I asked for a review by Fifa'
Donald Trump: "It's one thing to penalise somebody for the game, but how do you penalise them for a game that hasn't been played yet? It's very unfair, you can't do that.
"Yes, I asked for a review by Fifa. I spoke to a man who is highly respected, who's level of respect has gone up tenfold, and he was good before this started but he really pushed it in this country. I'm the one who got them to do it [bring the World Cup to America]. It was not [Joe] Biden. I got the Olympics and I got the World Cup. We gave a little piece to Canada, a little piece to Mexico, but I got that myself."
They made the right decision'
Trump continues: "All I did was I asked for a review because I didn't think it was a foul. Again, I'm good at this stuff. I didn't think it was a foul. I thought it was two great athletes who crashed into each other and got entangled. That was not a guy punching somebody in the face or anything that would be different.
"If they wouldn't allow a top player, maybe among the best players on the team, to play, I think it would have had a big stain and I related just that feeling. I didn't tell them what to do. I can't tell them what to do. I don't believe he [Infantino] made the decision, I think it was a committee that made the decision, and they made the right decision because number one it wasn't a foul, and you want to see a game with your best players. How would you feel if you took [Lionel] Messi, or [Cristiano] Ronaldo or Harry Kane out? You can't do that. We gotta have our best players and Belgium's got a great team by the way. We gotta have our best and they gotta have their best. And if we win or we lose, it's fair."
'Wow, that's a lot of power'
Trump continues: "I think the referee's call was horrible and nobody talks about that. The referee's decision to red card - I didn't know what the hell a red card was. When I found out I said, 'you gotta be kidding'. This guy just hands out... 'ok, your best player's next going to play next week or in the next game'. I said 'wow, that's a lot of power'. Then I looked at his [the referee's] past, and... it wasn't so great."
World Cup 2026: Balogun available for USA v Belgium after Spain play Portugal
Folarin Balogun to play for USA against Belgium as Lamine Yamal's Spain play Cristiano Ronaldo & Portugal at the 2026 Fifa World Cup.
View: https://x.com/Osint613/status/2074137964032958654
GuyBee
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Agree with the sentiment, but surely that is going too far.....how about 'Belgian till Full time' etc
aawharris
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Correct me if im wrong, but i thought i saw something in the laws/rules stating that if a countries government/politicians get involved in FIFA rules then they are at risk of being removed from the competition.
Les Beeavinu
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R16: USA 1-4 Belgium
I think FIFA removing the USA may lead to one or two difficulties.
hanwellbee
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R16: USA 1-4 Belgium
Countries have been suspended from FIFA for political interference. Nigeria(?) springs to mind.
SC
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R16: USA 1-4 Belgium
The worse thing about that statement is he once again makes aspersions about someone's integrity in this case the ref saying he has examples of previous incompetence despite this being a decision prompted by VAR. Despicable human being now part of a despicable closed club.
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Did the president of Nigeria receive a FIFA peace prize from the then FIFA President?
Infantino is far more likely to suspend any countries that complain about his bestie.
aawharris
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Oh yeah, it wont happen, and just gives the Orange one more power to think he can do as he wishes.
Who knows how this all ends?
Edmundo
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R16: USA 1-4 Belgium
What odds can you get on the USA winning the World Cup? Because Trump may make sure it happens.
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“I didn’t realise that if the other team scored more goals it meant that they won. I mean what kind of lame garbage is that?”.
R16: USA 1-4 Belgium
Well, he's about to issue a $TRUMPWINSWORLDCUP meme coin, so quite possible.
stevendamico
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R16: USA 1-4 Belgium
I'll weigh in as a Yank here. The call was poor at best, and it certainly felt like some bias.
That being said, a rule is a rule, and I hate that this happened because when the US wins there will always be an asterisk next to it, distracting from a historic performance (by our standards). I mean that Tillman free kick goal was top shelf.
Sucks all around and I think Balogun should consider not playing.
At the same time, must be said that Ronaldo got to play two matches he shouldn't have too.
That being said, a rule is a rule, and I hate that this happened because when the US wins there will always be an asterisk next to it, distracting from a historic performance (by our standards). I mean that Tillman free kick goal was top shelf.
Sucks all around and I think Balogun should consider not playing.
At the same time, must be said that Ronaldo got to play two matches he shouldn't have too.
Edmundo
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R16: USA 1-4 Belgium
It was a harsh decision but not the first harsh decision and won’t be the last. Will the king get FIFA to overrule Quansah’s red card? It’s the blatant disregard for the rules in order to favour the USA that stinks so much. Pure corruption.
aawharris
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R16: USA 1-4 Belgium
Ronaldos was overturned by FIFA.
Not by politcal influence and interference
BuzzingBee95
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R16: USA 1-4 Belgium
It’s difficult to put the onus on Balogun over choosing whether or not to play. It’s a World Cup, he may not be in another.
I don’t think they’ll be an asterisk next to what the US has achieved so far.
But I think this’ll tarnish FIFA indefinitely. In 20 years time if the US win a World Cup this’ll be a ‘forgotten’ stain on the US, but it won’t on fifa
Bee(h)Iver
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I've treid and tried and unless it's pronounced mel-pre-uve it doesn't scan. Good thing the Graduate wasn't set in Brussels...
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Bee(h)Iver
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R16: USA 1-4 Belgium
So - say Balogun plays, USA win, it goes to appeal and eventually it's decided that he was ineligiable what happens? In the past the team has been thrown out of the competition, a 3-0 win awarded to the othere team but this could be weeks after the WC has finished.
I feel sorry for the lad, not least because in my view it was a harsh red but because he's now become the focal point of al the furor. Harsh or not, the rules should apply equally and not get reversed because the person involved is a preening primadonna or because the leader of the host nation doesn't like it. Otherwise...what's the point?
I feel sorry for the lad, not least because in my view it was a harsh red but because he's now become the focal point of al the furor. Harsh or not, the rules should apply equally and not get reversed because the person involved is a preening primadonna or because the leader of the host nation doesn't like it. Otherwise...what's the point?
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No, it's if they "get involved" with their national FA. Not FIFA.
aawharris
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stevendamico
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R16: USA 1-4 Belgium
If you don't think politics and piers Morgan had something to do with that, I've got a bridge to sell ya. I don't think either of them were defensible.
SanFranciscoBee
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There’s no winner in this whole scenario. On a day that should be the biggest in our country’s history in this sport, there’s a sour taste. Everyone is a loser. No one on any side of the coin deserves the corruption and distraction away from the actual competition.
The only thing us USMNT supporters can do though is back the boys.
The only thing us USMNT supporters can do though is back the boys.
stevendamico
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R16: USA 1-4 Belgium
I mean, Trump disregarding rules to suit himself is a daily occurrence & we're used to it over here. I have greater contempt for those who go along with it. I don't see what Infantino gets out of this.
jlove
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Dinner at the White House and a dip in the reflecting pool?
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aawharris
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Lets be honest, we all know what Infantile is getting out of this....
R16: USA 1-4 Belgium
Mate, I read this through and thought you'd written an awesome bit of satire. Then I clicked on the article link! Wow!
That wasn't a foul' - Trump
President Donald Trump on his phone call with Gianni Infantino: "I spoke to Gianni... I saw the play. I'm a person that loves sports and was a good athlete. I understand sports really well. Really well. That wasn't a foul. That was two guys running full speed that happened to crash into each other."
‘Referee made a call nobody could believe’
Trump continues: "This referee, who is a little bit suspect. If you check his past, I don't want to say that because I don't like to create controversy, but very suspect... if you like I'll provide you with the past.
"He made a call that nobody could believe. Even people on the other side, they were saying 'we got lucky, wow'."
Red card 'very unfair'
Trump says Balogun is USA's best player, or one of their best players, adding: "He [Balogun] didn't do anything wrong. He's our best player, or one of our best players, and the referee gave him a red card. I didn't know what that meant. I didn't think it meant much.
"Then I started hearing that means he can't play in the next game - at least the next game. If it happened to another player that would have been unfair but when they take your best player or just about - they have some great players - and they say you can't play, that is very unfair."
I asked for a review by Fifa'
Donald Trump: "It's one thing to penalise somebody for the game, but how do you penalise them for a game that hasn't been played yet? It's very unfair, you can't do that.
"Yes, I asked for a review by Fifa. I spoke to a man who is highly respected, who's level of respect has gone up tenfold, and he was good before this started but he really pushed it in this country. I'm the one who got them to do it [bring the World Cup to America]. It was not [Joe] Biden. I got the Olympics and I got the World Cup. We gave a little piece to Canada, a little piece to Mexico, but I got that myself."
They made the right decision'
Trump continues: "All I did was I asked for a review because I didn't think it was a foul. Again, I'm good at this stuff. I didn't think it was a foul. I thought it was two great athletes who crashed into each other and got entangled. That was not a guy punching somebody in the face or anything that would be different.
"If they wouldn't allow a top player, maybe among the best players on the team, to play, I think it would have had a big stain and I related just that feeling. I didn't tell them what to do. I can't tell them what to do. I don't believe he [Infantino] made the decision, I think it was a committee that made the decision, and they made the right decision because number one it wasn't a foul, and you want to see a game with your best players. How would you feel if you took [Lionel] Messi, or [Cristiano] Ronaldo or Harry Kane out? You can't do that. We gotta have our best players and Belgium's got a great team by the way. We gotta have our best and they gotta have their best. And if we win or we lose, it's fair."
'Wow, that's a lot of power'
Trump continues: "I think the referee's call was horrible and nobody talks about that. The referee's decision to red card - I didn't know what the hell a red card was. When I found out I said, 'you gotta be kidding'. This guy just hands out... 'ok, your best player's next going to play next week or in the next game'. I said 'wow, that's a lot of power'. Then I looked at his [the referee's] past, and... it wasn't so great."
World Cup 2026: Balogun available for USA v Belgium after Spain play Portugal
Folarin Balogun to play for USA against Belgium as Lamine Yamal's Spain play Cristiano Ronaldo & Portugal at the 2026 Fifa World Cup.
aawharris
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I couldnt imagine a statement like that coming from somebody that has never watched football before, let alone somebody in his position.
That wasn't a foul' - Trump
President Donald Trump on his phone call with Gianni Infantino: "I spoke to Gianni... I saw the play. I'm a person that loves sports and was a good athlete. I understand sports really well. Really well. That wasn't a foul. That was two guys running full speed that happened to crash into each other."
‘Referee made a call nobody could believe’
Trump continues: "This referee, who is a little bit suspect. If you check his past, I don't want to say that because I don't like to create controversy, but very suspect... if you like I'll provide you with the past.
"He made a call that nobody could believe. Even people on the other side, they were saying 'we got lucky, wow'."
Red card 'very unfair'
Trump says Balogun is USA's best player, or one of their best players, adding: "He [Balogun] didn't do anything wrong. He's our best player, or one of our best players, and the referee gave him a red card. I didn't know what that meant. I didn't think it meant much.
"Then I started hearing that means he can't play in the next game - at least the next game. If it happened to another player that would have been unfair but when they take your best player or just about - they have some great players - and they say you can't play, that is very unfair."
I asked for a review by Fifa'
Donald Trump: "It's one thing to penalise somebody for the game, but how do you penalise them for a game that hasn't been played yet? It's very unfair, you can't do that.
"Yes, I asked for a review by Fifa. I spoke to a man who is highly respected, who's level of respect has gone up tenfold, and he was good before this started but he really pushed it in this country. I'm the one who got them to do it [bring the World Cup to America]. It was not [Joe] Biden. I got the Olympics and I got the World Cup. We gave a little piece to Canada, a little piece to Mexico, but I got that myself."
They made the right decision'
Trump continues: "All I did was I asked for a review because I didn't think it was a foul. Again, I'm good at this stuff. I didn't think it was a foul. I thought it was two great athletes who crashed into each other and got entangled. That was not a guy punching somebody in the face or anything that would be different.
"If they wouldn't allow a top player, maybe among the best players on the team, to play, I think it would have had a big stain and I related just that feeling. I didn't tell them what to do. I can't tell them what to do. I don't believe he [Infantino] made the decision, I think it was a committee that made the decision, and they made the right decision because number one it wasn't a foul, and you want to see a game with your best players. How would you feel if you took [Lionel] Messi, or [Cristiano] Ronaldo or Harry Kane out? You can't do that. We gotta have our best players and Belgium's got a great team by the way. We gotta have our best and they gotta have their best. And if we win or we lose, it's fair."
'Wow, that's a lot of power'
Trump continues: "I think the referee's call was horrible and nobody talks about that. The referee's decision to red card - I didn't know what the hell a red card was. When I found out I said, 'you gotta be kidding'. This guy just hands out... 'ok, your best player's next going to play next week or in the next game'. I said 'wow, that's a lot of power'. Then I looked at his [the referee's] past, and... it wasn't so great."
World Cup 2026: Balogun available for USA v Belgium after Spain play Portugal
Folarin Balogun to play for USA against Belgium as Lamine Yamal's Spain play Cristiano Ronaldo & Portugal at the 2026 Fifa World Cup.
But then nothing he says or does should surprise anyone
Kingston Bee
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R16: USA 1-4 Belgium
Thay maybe true, the biggest loser is the game itself. If this decision stands as it is now, the game has gone. Trump does not understand that imo.
larrysigny
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R16: USA 1-4 Belgium
In my ideal world, Balogun will be allowed to play and there'll be an honest ref (??) who sends him off after 15 minutes for a similar foul. 
Or am I just dreaming?
Or am I just dreaming?
SpiderBee
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R16: USA 1-4 Belgium
It has taken the edge of what has been a decent tournament.
Infantino should resign.
Infantino should resign.
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savvy 2210
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R16: USA 1-4 Belgium
The only responsible thing the yanks can do is bench him for the whole game. I cannot see them doing something ethical, I can only hope.
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