Signed Darwin Guagua (Mid, Independiente del Valle, 18)

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Darwin Guagua (Mid, Independiente del Valle, 18)

Although the topic of this piece is about Premier League clubs recruiting 18-year-olds from EFL and Scottish academies, there’s a lot that’s relevant to recruiting an 18-year-old from South America.
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Premier League: Why clubs are targeting EFL academy players

Premier League clubs are continuing to recruit young players from EFL and Scottish academies for their U21 and B-team squads.
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Darwin Guagua (Mid, Independiente del Valle, 18)

jlove said:
I does seem like it’s BFC really wanting this player, so I assume he’s got outstanding potential for a position that always been a challenge to fill. We’ve now got some experience in gaming the system and making use of a club BIA owns alongside BFC to introduce a Spanish-speaking player to Europe.
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Interesting take.
 

Darwin Guagua (Mid, Independiente del Valle, 18)

BAGSHOTBEE said:
Exciting but also sad that we are not promoting more local talent within the academy rather than going abroad to make new signings.
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I have no doubt they they scoured the Hounslow and District Sunday morning league before going to Ecuador.
 

Darwin Guagua (Mid, Independiente del Valle, 18)

he will be about 6 inches taller.
 

Darwin Guagua (Mid, Independiente del Valle, 18)

SmiffyBee said:
His name means " bus " in Spanish, which might be appropriate.
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Spanish word for bus in Cuba or Canary Islands not Spain, but hope he doesn't park it. With his electric pace that's not likely.
 

Darwin Guagua (Mid, Independiente del Valle, 18)

grepo said:
Spanish word for bus in Cuba or Canary Islands not Spain, but hope he doesn't park it. With his electric pace that's not likely.
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An electric bus, you say ?
Where will he park in the London Borough of Hounslow?
 

Darwin Guagua (Mid, Independiente del Valle, 18)

WARFIELD BEE said:
The majority of our B team players do not make top level.
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TadB said:
That is the essence of the problem, why not?
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Because the majority of all B players form everywhere else don’t make it either. But if you can get a JDS, Yarmoulouk, Roeslev or Kevin Rapley along the way, and sell the rest for a small profit, it probably works or no one would do it.
 

Darwin Guagua (Mid, Independiente del Valle, 18)

Adam said:
Interesting he only played for the national team to get him a visa to play in the UK/Europe. Wonder how many other countries are trying to game the system.
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Brown paper envelopes 'arry style? Surely not. 😉
 

Darwin Guagua (Mid, Independiente del Valle, 18)

Adam said:
Interesting he only played for the national team to get him a visa to play in the UK/Europe. Wonder how many other countries are trying to game the system.
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Did he just play the one game? I'm not sure transfermarkt is 100% on this stuff, but on there it looks like he got 60 mins in a 0-0 away to Chile in a world cup qualifier and that was it for competitive games (plus one friendly).
 

Darwin Guagua (Mid, Independiente del Valle, 18)

WARFIELD BEE said:
The majority of our B team players do not make top level.
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This is true however its surprising as there is an abundance of talent in the London area. Hopefully our Academy will start delivering in years to come now it is cat 1. I love to see great young players come into the club, just wish it was more home grown.
 

Darwin Guagua (Mid, Independiente del Valle, 18)

BAGSHOTBEE said:
This is true however its surprising as there is an abundance of talent in the London area. Hopefully our Academy will start delivering in years to come now it is cat 1. I love to see great young players come into the club, just wish it was more home grown.
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Without going too far off topic. You only have to book back at our last effort with the academy.............. Poveda, Bouli (sp) and a couple others snatched up by the big clubs.
 

Darwin Guagua (Mid, Independiente del Valle, 18)

Isleworth_Bee said:
Without going too far off topic. You only have to book back at our last effort with the academy.............. Poveda, Bouli (sp) and a couple others snatched up by the big clubs.
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Ah, yes but to mix up a well known phrase, it's Game Keeper, turned Poacher.
 

Darwin Guagua (Mid, Independiente del Valle, 18)

WARFIELD BEE said:
Basically because they are not good enough, all the top prospects get mopped up by the big six.
eg Saka comes from Greenford, signs for Arsenal.
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Whereas Chris Mepham has much more sense than that!
 

Darwin Guagua (Mid, Independiente del Valle, 18)

Are him and Gutavo Nunes competing here? In fairness I’d like to see Nunes get a fair crack first. This lad clearly a long term bet
 

Darwin Guagua (Mid, Independiente del Valle, 18)

joebee said:
Only gets 20mins in his first game before some GPG experts pass judgment and tell us he's pony.
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20 minutes? Lightweights! I can tell you without seeing him play at all, that this bloke is the Bees knees, the dogs wotsits.
 

Darwin Guagua (Mid, Independiente del Valle, 18)

Our squad is very stacked at the moment, so would be hard to see him getting any real first team opportunities this season. I guess, given he’s coming from a Spanish speaking country, the club feel year of men’s football in Spain, even if it is third tier, is better for his development than U21s football in a country where I’d imagine he probably doesn’t speak the language yet.

I imagine he’ll do very well there, and Merida getting promoted to the 2nd tier could also be beneficial to us when looking at future loans for B team / academy prospects.
 

Darwin Guagua (Mid, Independiente del Valle, 18)

bexleybee said:
Are him and Gutavo Nunes competing here? In fairness I’d like to see Nunes get a fair crack first. This lad clearly a long term bet
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Nunes is a winger, Guagua is a CAM, so no. It def puts pressure on Carv and Milambo.
 

Darwin Guagua (Mid, Independiente del Valle, 18)

TOXIC BEE said:
Our squad is very stacked at the moment, so would be hard to see him getting any real first team opportunities this season. I guess, given he’s coming from a Spanish speaking country, the club feel year of men’s football in Spain, even if it is third tier, is better for his development than U21s football in a country where I’d imagine he probably doesn’t speak the language yet.

I imagine he’ll do very well there, and Merida getting promoted to the 2nd tier could also be beneficial to us when looking at future loans for B team / academy prospects.
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Does give him a season to have him take English lessons... Is that something the club typically requires and provides?
 

Darwin Guagua (Mid, Independiente del Valle, 18)

TadB said:
That is the essence of the problem, why not?
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because the Premier League is the most talented league in the world

we all acknowledge that as the squad gets better and better, the pond we're fishing in to find players to improve it gets smaller and smaller. the same logic applies to the B Team. the quality of the player that is needed to challenge an established senior player for a spot on the bench, let alone in the lineup, gets higher and higher with every passing year.

20 yr old Mads Roerslev made 11 appearances in the Championship
21 yr old Mads Roerslev made 17 appearances in the Championship
22 yr old Mads Roerslev made 20 appearances in the Premier League
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I don't think it's controversial to say that if the 20 year old version of Mads Roerslev existed in the B Team today, he's not making 11 appearances in the PL for us this season. Those two years in the Championship gave him runway to find his feet and develop and grow with the club. But now to grow with the club, you need to be of a higher starting talent level than 20 year old Mads Roerslev. And I say all of this as a Mads Roerslev defender. It's all about the circumstances and they've gotten harder.
 

Darwin Guagua (Mid, Independiente del Valle, 18)

Ok so B team, loan or first team?
 

Darwin Guagua (Mid, Independiente del Valle, 18)

D_Fives said:
because the Premier League is the most talented league in the world

we all acknowledge that as the squad gets better and better, the pond we're fishing in to find players to improve it gets smaller and smaller. the same logic applies to the B Team. the quality of the player that is needed to challenge an established senior player for a spot on the bench, let alone in the lineup, gets higher and higher with every passing year.

20 yr old Mads Roerslev made 11 appearances in the Championship
21 yr old Mads Roerslev made 17 appearances in the Championship
22 yr old Mads Roerslev made 20 appearances in the Premier League
and so on

I don't think it's controversial to say that if the 20 year old version of Mads Roerslev existed in the B Team today, he's not making 11 appearances in the PL for us this season. Those two years in the Championship gave him runway to find his feet and develop and grow with the club. But now to grow with the club, you need to be of a higher starting talent level than 20 year old Mads Roerslev. And I say all of this as a Mads Roerslev defender. It's all about the circumstances and they've gotten harder.
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Really well put this.
 

Darwin Guagua (Mid, Independiente del Valle, 18)

Darwin Guagua (Mid, Independiente del Valle, 18)

Darwin Guagua (Mid, Independiente del Valle, 18)

He'll be going to Merida I guess for work permit reasons. I don't know the ins and outs of the rules. But if he gets capped X amount of times for his national side at U21 he stacks up points. Maybe I'm wrong.
 

Darwin Guagua (Mid, Independiente del Valle, 18)

We seem pretty keen to get him in by the looks of it - very rare we send out a new signing that isn't B team on loan straightaway
 
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