Wiki Season 2026/27 Position Tracker

[Banana]

A lot of draws this week keeps us in the CL places...

 

[VML87]

Is this the justice league and data the top bosses use?

 

[Banana]

Is this the justice league and data the top bosses use?

No, it's the actual league table.

 

[VML87]

No, it's the actual league table.

Sorry, completely read it wrong

 

[SH]

No, it's the actual league table.

Out of interest, do the bees management think any of the publicly available data (e.g. Opta) is markedly better than any other?

 

[Banana]

Out of interest, do the bees management think any of the publicly available data (e.g. Opta) is markedly better than any other?

No idea really. 538 was well respected IIRC.

 

[SH]

No idea really. 538 was well respected IIRC.

Yes, it was a real shame when that was discontinued… by far the best I’ve seen.

 

[Untouchable]

Yes, it was a real shame when that was discontinued… by far the best I’ve seen.

Yes, in an era of an endless sea of websites with crappy football data, it’s a shame that they couldn’t find a way to keep the best one ongoing.

 

[Jezybee]

Came across BetRecon at the weekend Bet Recon
Predicts a 6th place finish with ~30% chance of top 5.

Doesn’t look overly sophisticated and seems mainly form led but they have relatively comprehensive notes on past performance and method behind the model. Other than registered in Malta, like many gambling related companies are, couldn’t find who is behind it.

 

[Banana]

Dropped to 7th. That's 5 places dropped in 3 games So by 9 games we'll be in the relegation zone. #momentum

Alternatively we're the highest we've ever been in the PL at this stage.

 

[N5022N122]

It's back! Cool. I didn't realise Nana did it?.

 

[badgerbee]

As an aside, 9 points after 5 games, is the best start we've had to a season (points wise) since promotion.
(Beating the 8 we had in our first season).

 

[Banana]

4th is by far the highest league position we've been in at this time of the season.

 

[kaebess]

14 game weeks to go, to know with some certainty where we will finish ( that’s within a couple of league places )

 

[N5022N122]

Where is the other tablets goes with this one from previous seasons?

 

[Banana]

Where is the other tablets goes with this one from previous seasons?

This one?

 

[kaebess]

I have it as after our final position after game week 19.

21-22 we were 13th after 19 games, finished 12th
22-23 we were 8th finished 9th
23-24 we were 16th finished 16th
24-25 we were 12th finished 10th
25-26 we were 9th finished 9th.

That’s all based from your tracker which is not questioned. The above is fairly consistent.
I have asked before if other clubs compare to this as well as I have no idea if we are the exception or not.
Know sky give out data like who’s bottom at Xmas goes Dow this % of the time. Same with who’s top of the league at the same time.

 

[kaebess]

This one?

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Love the Fulham addition

 

[N5022N122]

Yes but the other one had previous years paths too. At this stage it would look cluttered unless zoomed in.

 

[bexleybee]

Never has a team been in the top 6 after 5 games been relegated. Think we might be alright

 

[Oceanbee]

We are actually starting this next phase of the season in 3rd place, only 3 points behind Arsenal.

A big win at Villa, Brighton draw/lose, and we are 2nd!

Oh, the reason we are 3rd, not 4th, is because Man City is never going to end this season with all their points intact, or perhaps even their PL status!

 

[Banana]

Good progress this week

 

[N5022N122]

Can't finish lower than 7th.

 

[badgerbee]

Good progress this week

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How have you come up with 42 (?) as the likely number of points required to avoid relegation?
Seems too high.
Looks like it was about 32 on your previous graph, which seems more realistic.

 

[N5022N122]

Up to 6th predicted on Opta.

 

[Banana]

How have you come up with 42 (?) as the likely number of points required to avoid relegation?
Seems too high.
Looks like it was about 32 on your previous graph, which seems more realistic.

I'm using the Opta Predicted table. I agree it seems high.

 

[badgerbee]

I'm using the Opta Predicted table. I agree it seems high.

Yeah, other than last season, when 40 was needed, in the previous 10 seasons, 38 points was the most (with 26 the fewest, in 24/25), and an average over that period of only 33. And since the introduction of the PL the average has been 35.

 

[Banana]

Amazing to be in 4th at this stage. Normally we would have dropped down to just outside the European places by now.

Of course 4th is a real 3rd after City get done.




To get the CL places we probably needs to win the homes, and draw the aways. The only "old fashioned" table I can find is from an Ipswich Town site. Nevertheless we are 1 win for a draw down at home. So we need to beat Liverpool and Hull to get back on schedule. No problem!

 

[Jezybee]

76 points (average 2pts / game | Win at home draw away), would have seen us finish:
2023-24: 4th
2024-25: 2nd
2025-26: 3rd

Champions League 2027-28 plus going unbeaten all this season.

 

[Banana]

Champions League 2027-28 plus going unbeaten all this season.

on average!

 

[Jezybee]

on average!

What does that mean?
Can currently get 7/2 (4.5 | 22.22%) on a Brentford top 4 finish. Means the high street bookies think the real chance is somewhere around 4/1-9/2 (5-5.5 | 18.18-20%).

Edit just seen UCL (which is similar to top 4) 17.32% on the Opta table Banana posted - that doesn’t include chance / consequences of Man City points deduction.

 

[Banana]

What does that mean?
Can currently get 7/2 (4.5 | 22.22%) on a Brentford top 4 finish. Means the high street bookies think the real chance is somewhere around 4/1-9/2 (5-5.5 | 18.18-20%).

You need something better than 25% for correct odds......

 

[N5022N122]

Game week 9 to 16 seems to be a consolidation period at a lower level. Let's see what happens this year.

 

[Beelieve!]

The big spenders are, as expected, starting to move up the table

 

[Banana]

Confirmed now as 6th place. Highest ever at this stage of the season...

 

[jbee]

Confirmed now as 6th place. Highest ever at this stage of the season...

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5th once you discount the zombie club.

 

[Untouchable]

Almost a fifth of the way through the season and never outside the European places.

Something special is brewing.

 

[Banana]

 

[Banana]

A new world record of 6th place after 8 games. But times are so bad apparently.