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SmiffyBee said:
Is it prolonged holding ?
Is it impacting the play ?
Is the attacker backing in, or holding as well ?

These are possible reasons why it is not called as a foul.
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Yesterday our players got no joy out of this. Wrapping arms around a player is a foul, its holding and Tiago and Anthony had it happen to them on multiple occasions.
 

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Griffingreen said:
Sh*t referee yes, but there were a few times he ignored a Liverpool player rolling around after a tackle with little or no concern, so maybe not so bias
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Then went back and booked or sent one of ours off....
 

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SmiffyBee said:
Is it prolonged holding ?
Is it impacting the play ?
Is the attacker backing in, or holding as well ?

These are possible reasons why it is not called as a foul.
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Do you watch our games?
 

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I've now slept on it for 2 nights but still can't shake the image of Brooks doing the 'talking hand' gesture to Vitaly as he booked him for dissent. Can you honestly imagine him doing that to Van Dijk? It just wouldn't happen.
 

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I didn’t think it could get any worse. I’m off to lie down in a dark room.

Hull City v Brentford

Referee: Rob Jones.
Assistants: Akil Howson, Alex James.
Fourth official: Andrew Kitchen.
VAR: Tim Wood.
Assistant VAR: Alex Chilowicz.
 
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Untouchable said:
I didn’t think it could get any worse. I’m off to lie down in a dark room.

Hull City v Brentford

Referee: Rob Jones.
Assistants: Akil Howson, Alex James.
Fourth official: Andrew Kitchen.
VAR: Tim Wood.
Assistant VAR: Alex Chilowicz.
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That Lino will just be a blur.
 

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Untouchable said:
I didn’t think it could get any worse. I’m off to lie down in a dark room.

Hull City v Brentford

Referee: Rob Jones.
Assistants: Akil Howson, Alex James.
Fourth official: Andrew Kitchen.
VAR: Tim Wood.
Assistant VAR: Alex Chilowicz.
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Was just thinking, last weekend, while weeping, that it had been a while...
 

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Mr Tree said:
Was just thinking, last weekend, while weeping, that it had been a while...
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I think it been almost a year since we’ve had him as referee.

In the interim he’s cemented his place as one of the worst. From Dale Johnson in April:

“KMI panel statistics show that Jones has been responsible for five of the 12 errors this season regarding second yellow cards not being shown. All of his mistakes should have resulted in red cards.

The other cases listed to involve Jones are Malick Thiaw (Newcastle at Bournemouth), Ruben Dias (Manchester City at Nottingham Forest), Rodri (Manchester City at Tottenham) and Cole Palmer (Chelsea v Leeds United).

Jones has the joint-most errors on second bookings in the past two individual seasons, with three recorded in 2024-25 and two in 2023-24.

Of 42 cases regarded as mistakes across the three campaigns, Jones has made 10 of them.”
 

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Untouchable said:
I think it been almost a year since we’ve had him as referee.

In the interim he’s cemented his place as one of the worst. From Dale Johnson in April:

“KMI panel statistics show that Jones has been responsible for five of the 12 errors this season regarding second yellow cards not being shown. All of his mistakes should have resulted in red cards.

The other cases listed to involve Jones are Malick Thiaw (Newcastle at Bournemouth), Ruben Dias (Manchester City at Nottingham Forest), Rodri (Manchester City at Tottenham) and Cole Palmer (Chelsea v Leeds United).
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Strange how all of those "missed 2nd Yellows" benefitted the 'bigger' team in every case.....🤔
Or maybe not....
 

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badgerbee said:
Strange how all of those "missed 2nd Yellows" benefitted the 'bigger' team in every case.....🤔
Or maybe not....
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I'm sure it's just a strange coincidence and nothing to do with any sort of big club bias 🤥
 

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Untouchable said:
I think it been almost a year since we’ve had him as referee.

In the interim he’s cemented his place as one of the worst. From Dale Johnson in April:

“KMI panel statistics show that Jones has been responsible for five of the 12 errors this season regarding second yellow cards not being shown. All of his mistakes should have resulted in red cards.

The other cases listed to involve Jones are Malick Thiaw (Newcastle at Bournemouth), Ruben Dias (Manchester City at Nottingham Forest), Rodri (Manchester City at Tottenham) and Cole Palmer (Chelsea v Leeds United).

Jones has the joint-most errors on second bookings in the past two individual seasons, with three recorded in 2024-25 and two in 2023-24.

Of 42 cases regarded as mistakes across the three campaigns, Jones has made 10 of them.”
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That's bloody impressive.
 

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Untouchable said:
I didn’t think it could get any worse. I’m off to lie down in a dark room.

Hull City v Brentford

Referee: Rob Jones.
Assistants: Akil Howson, Alex James.
Fourth official: Andrew Kitchen.
VAR: Tim Wood.
Assistant VAR: Alex Chilowicz.
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Lino on VAR too.
 

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Rob Jones
31 yellows and 1 red this season in 8 games
No red cards at all last season.
Our record with Jones
W 2
D 4
L 7
 

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Old B said:
Is it the wording of the relevant “laws” that causes/creates an opportunity for different interpretations to be available? Would @Themepark have red carded Palmer?
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Personally I would put it in this category. Certainly the last paragraph, by running to him that to me would be classed as a deliberate action and then the striking of the opponent makes it w deliberate strike.
 

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If I'm honest, the football I want to watch would have had both incidents get a ticking off or maybe yellows all round. What infuriates me is that out of all of it, only the minor team ended up with the severest sanction. Jacquet didn't even get a yellow for his part in our incident. Ludicrously inconsistent.
 
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Les Beeavinu said:
If I'm honest, the football I want to watch would have had both incidents get a ticking off or maybe yellows all round. What infuriates me is that out of all of it, only the minor team ended up with the severest sanction Jacquet didn't even get a yellow for his part in our incident. Ludicrously inconsistent.
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I do agree, to an extent.
I think yellows all round to YY and Jaquet would have been sufficient, even if just to YY in that it shows he's was more of the "serious" one.
But head to head isn't always a headbutt. Using force like Gabriel did and even Palmer yesterday, just cause its not a head to head doesnt make it non forceful.
 

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So I wouldn’t call it brutality “Brutality means extreme, cruel, and violent behavior or an act that shows a complete lack of feeling for others.” but feel it comes into excessive force, which is where I suppose the subjectivenes arises. Don’t think he hit him on the head or face and wasn't with his arm.

I think we’d concur that if a bees player had made that action it would have been a red!

Same with Roger’s on Gallagher near the end.
 

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badgerbee said:
Brooks decisions:
Gabriel thrusts head into Haaland: No Red
Yarmoliuk brushes Jacquet's cheek: Red
Palmer "thighs" Spurs player (?) in the head: No Red

f***, the f*** off!!!
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I think it can be summed up this way -
Gabriel "i know you, no red"
Palmer "i know you, no red"
Yarmo " who the f*** are you - red card"
 

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Thought he was OK to be fair - didn't dish out the cards and I think all the big decisions were correct. It was a penalty but not a red as Hickey made an attempt to play the ball and the encroachment wasn't relevant to the play so shouldn't count as per the laws. Also thought the decision not to award them a penalty in the 2nd half was right as well - made a meal of it.
 

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Darren England on Saturday. He was the VAR against Liverpool! Another referee with an obvious #Big6Bias so hopefully not an issue against the Marinakis Moobs.

Brentford v Nottingham Forest
Referee: Darren England.
Assistants: Scott Ledger, Mat Wilkes.
Fourth official: Farai Hallam.
VAR: Andrew Kitchen.
Assistant VAR: Tom Nield
 

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Old B said:
Is it the wording of the relevant “laws” that causes/creates an opportunity for different interpretations to be available? Would @Themepark have red carded Palmer?
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For which incident? There’s been a few Palmer ones lately 😅

But yes there is an air of subjectivity with judging Careless/Reckless/Excessive Force or Brutality/Negligible Force although most have hallmarks and examples we try to base on to get as consistent as we can manage (though it’ll never truly be that as we all know/elect to forget so we have something to chew over etc)
 

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Themepark said:
For which incident? There’s been a few Palmer ones lately 😅

But yes there is an air of subjectivity with judging Careless/Reckless/Excessive Force or Brutality/Negligible Force although most have hallmarks and examples we try to base on to get as consistent as we can manage (though it’ll never truly be that as we all know/elect to forget so we have something to chew over etc)
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So there is no standard punishment for "excessive bo*locks to the face"?
 

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BTW I went to the Premier League as a rep of Brentford fans this week. Some chap was there from Proref. I've never encountered a more patronising person ever in the world. More interested in sandwiches than reading Law 12. "Can we get to the food now".

He wasn't a current ref though, just a previous ref that I didn't recognise and was there to bat away questions.

Absolutely pointless.
 

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Themepark said:
For which incident? There’s been a few Palmer ones lately 😅

But yes there is an air of subjectivity with judging Careless/Reckless/Excessive Force or Brutality/Negligible Force although most have hallmarks and examples we try to base on to get as consistent as we can manage (though it’ll never truly be that as we all know/elect to forget so we have something to chew over etc)
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Thanks for replying. The one where the Spuds defender fell on and handled the ball, Palmer then “walked” in to him with his knee/thigh.

Violent? Brutal?
Completely subjective unfortunately but one where a “name” gets the benefit of the doubt.
 

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Old B said:
Thanks for replying. The one where the Spuds defender fell on and handled the ball, Palmer then “walked” in to him with his knee/thigh.

Violent? Brutal?
Completely subjective unfortunately but one where a “name” gets the benefit of the doubt.
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Palmer challenge on the spurs player on the ground was a red card for most refs I'd suggest.
Dowman's red last night was similar in nature and with less force.
 

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This is how a narrative gets created by the Big 6. Liverpool spend the entire week before our match briefing that we’re aggressive and overly physical. End result is 2 Bees players sent off.

Max Dowman literally kicks his opponent who is on the floor and his actions are being defended live on Sky Sports. It’s just another attempt to influence the referees and how they approach the Big 6.

Wouldn’t surprise me if this is appealed by Arsenal and overturned.


View: https://x.com/jamesgreeninuk/status/2115351624013259018?s=46&t=SQP7mje7Pimu8X-ugPnQnQ
 

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Untouchable said:
This is how a narrative gets created by the Big 6. Liverpool spend the entire week before our match briefing that we’re aggressive and overly physical. End result is 2 Bees players sent off.

Max Dowman literally kicks his opponent who is on the floor and his actions are being defended live on Sky Sports. It’s just another attempt to influence the referees and how they approach the Big 6.

Wouldn’t surprise me if this is appealed by Arsenal and overturned.


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Absolute f***ing joke!!
No forensic analysis of "how minimal the movement" of Yarmo's head was in our game obviously............
 

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Can you imagine if it happened the other way round? Fleetwood would probably be kicked out of the competition.
 

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Untouchable said:
This is how a narrative gets created by the Big 6. Liverpool spend the entire week before our match briefing that we’re aggressive and overly physical. End result is 2 Bees players sent off.

Max Dowman literally kicks his opponent who is on the floor and his actions are being defended live on Sky Sports. It’s just another attempt to influence the referees and how they approach the Big 6.

Wouldn’t surprise me if this is appealed by Arsenal and overturned.


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John Brookes fault again, if he'd done his job properly on Saturday Arsenal's case would be much more difficult.
 

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So if this gets overturned we will know for sure (if we didn't already know) that the whole system is totally biased and unfit for purpose. I sincerely hope the club will be queuing up at Howard Webbs door demanding explanation, justification and correction. I'm sick of it.
 
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