Final Score Brighton 2 Brentford 0

[seanrs]

Being on a yellow, assumed it would be Ajer coming off when Collins came on but what do I know

 

[Ioweddie]

Can't watch anymore today

 

[Argus]

Yarmo and Collins on for Dango and Hickey

Alright then, let’s defend that 2-0 deficit

 

[taxi driver]

Exactly. This is the point. It was hammered by Liverpool after the Villa match. And since then we’ve had 3 red cards.

A media line that has influenced the match officials.

All of which were deserved however

A real lack of discipline collectively and individually in my opinion.

KLP seems to have not learned either.

 

[malkay]

It's simple isn't it... We can pull out all the clips of refs not giving reds for similar headbutting offences or not giving us penalties for numerous rugby tackles against the likes of Collins... BUT the reality is if we don't do the action that gives referees and VAR a decision to make, we don't get punished for it!

I get the frustration, I get the lack of consistency and I personally despise how VAR has ruined the flow of the Premier League... But the players are the masters of their own destiny, particularly in how they react and defend off the ball.

 

[Boston Bee]

We take of an attacking player for a center back down two goals. I guess the plan is to survive at 2-0. Very pragmatic to sit deep and hope they don’t run it up…

But I don’t have to watch it.

 

[HungryBee]

It's simple isn't it... We can pull out all the clips of refs not giving reds for similar headbutting offences or not giving us penalties for numerous rugby tackles against the likes of Collins... BUT the reality is if we don't do the action that gives referees and VAR a decision to make, we don't get punished for it!

I get the frustration, I get the lack of consistency and I personally despise how VAR has ruined the flow of the Premier League... But the players are the masters of their own destiny, particularly in how they react and defend off the ball.

Well said

 

[RhodeIslandBeeUSA]

We take of an attacking player for a center back down two goals. I guess the plan is to survive at 2-0. Very pragmatic to sit deep and hope they don’t run it up…

But I don’t have to watch it.

I’m only continuing because it’s the last match for 2 weeks

 

[TadB]

How is it the Brighton player jumps up from the ground and then pushes Thiago first, long after after the ball has disappeared.
Surely that is an act of initial aggression - a red for each would have been fairer.

So many times you see the instigator of a situation getting away with it.

It’s like the police prosecuting the victim, rather than the person who started it.

Oh well. A lot of matches to go this season, and we now need to really learn from all of this mess.

Not only does he get up and push Thiago but he makes a Head Butt movement towards him.
Remember Yarmoluk?

 

[teesbee]

Have thought for a few weeks that Keith needs more consistency in his team selection, our passing just isn't good enough. It's great that we have more of a squad now, but we dont have to change it up every week, IMO.

 

[A Real Mysteron]

Do you think he deliberately struck him in the face?

He deliberately put his arm into the player. Where it ends up is largely academic.

 

[NickThe(Half)Greek]

So it’s an attempt at damage limitation by bringing on Collins as well then.

 

[teesbee]

Being on a yellow, assumed it would be Ajer coming off when Collins came on but what do I know

Would be a true disaster if Ajer gets sent off.

 

[Untouchable]

He deliberately put his arm into the player. Where it ends up is largely academic.

This isn’t what the laws of the game say.

 

[Paul_T]

Away end singing red army at different speeds, sums up our afternoon

 

[lanzabee]

That is a ridiculous comment. The media haven’t told our players to commit violent conduct.

No, but they do keep pushing the line that we're physical (regardless of whether true or not). Repeat a line often enough and it starts to stick - whole profession of PR based on this. And refs consume media. Doesn't excuse either decision - both correct in modern game. But every manager, including Brighton's, trot out the Brentford are physical line pre match build up. Impossible to quantify what impact this has if any. But we now seem to have a reputation for being physical
At the same time it's hard not to observe how Thiago is reffed - gets f*** all week in week out. But agree both decisuons today down to the players.

 

[DodoPatak]

What are the odds of Brighton doing a Leicester this season? Arsenal not looking convincing Man city collapsing Liverpool erratic...

I wouldn't compare it with Leicester because they barely saved themselves the season before, so it was completely out of the blue. On the other hand, Brighton is consistently good for the last five seasons, so it would be much less of a surprise.

 

[I'll Bee Damned]

Not only have we self destructed and had big decisions go against us, every lose ball has fallen to them too. Just not our day

 

[Freebee]

Do you think he deliberately struck him in the face?

If you don't swing it you don't hit anything.It may not have been deliberate but it connected.

 

[walterbee]

Someone get Kev a deckchair. Zero passes to him and no chance against 2 or 3 defenders.

 

[Ioweddie]

I'm watching again from behind the sofa

 

[Untouchable]

.It may not have been deliberate but it connected.

The laws of the game require the strike to the head to be deliberate.

If it isn’t deliberate it isn’t violent conduct.

 

[A Real Mysteron]

This isn’t what the laws of the game say.

 

[aawharris]

Not watching but it sounds like Brighton are this weeks recipients of the "random officiating decisions bias"

 

[Mikey Bee]

We're winning on the hair band count.

PMA.

 

[davebee]

Is that not a red for Dunk? Two footed straight through the man...

 

[Freebee]

The laws of the game require the strike to the head to be deliberate.

If it isn’t deliberate it isn’t violent conduct.

There wouldn't be a debate if he hadn't reacted.He'd already won the free kick and they got a yellow.

 

[Banana]

They're down to 10 men for a minute now. Let's do this!!!!!!

 

[CTBee]

Fair play to the fans who have gone to the game, can still hear them making noise in support of the team.

 

[JosephBFC]

Vuskovic, what a w***er

 

[ladbroke]

If im being cynical here, dunk was off the floor when challenging schade

 

[beeeehive]

That was an awful tackle

 

[To Bee Someone]

In it's very nature, VAR is wrong..they will look at every nuance of the game to the point that flashpoints ie Yarmo and Thiago are at risk of being red cards. The disappointment is in a Arsenal Liverpool game...it's laughed off as competitiveness. That's the annoyance
That said, we have to be better. I don't think we are ill disciplined, we just have to be smarter. The same applies to KLP. 2nd penalty this season he's given away that's soft but it's valid.

 

[LongLostBee]

Bad timing for the club WhatsApp-spam.
Matthias Jensen into the greats….as he spanners in a truly woeful free-kick

 

[lanzabee]

Did Dunk get a card for that?

 

[davebee]

The sky commentator can f*** off as well.

 

[CTBee]

I know they're very good but these commentators are incredibly far up Brighton's arse.

 

[A Real Mysteron]

Did Dunk get a card for that?

Yes. Correctly a yellow.

 

[Justheretoread]

Do you think he deliberately struck him in the face?

He doesn’t need to have deliberately struck him in the face though.

 

[JosephBFC]

Better Bees. Schade putting one hell of a shift in, completely isolated up top. Keep pushing

 

[ladbroke]

What were we singing just then about Michael Oliver?

 

[Untouchable]

He doesn’t need to have deliberately struck him in the face though.

From Law 12:

“In addition, a player who, when not challenging for the ball, deliberately strikes an opponent or any other person on the head or face with the hand or arm, is guilty of violent conduct unless the force used was negligible.”

 

[johndub]

Not pick the f***ing ridiculous line up he has picked. Pathetic attempt at trying to be to clever

Maybe you should offer your services to the club. They’re probably unaware of your managerial nous.

 

[CTBee]

What were we singing just then about Michael Oliver?

It's all about you

 

[badgerbee]

If the media are saying we are more aggressive and physical maybe it is because they are watching us and it is obviously true.

4 Yellows for Brighton so far this game.
What are media saying about them??

 

[davebee]

From Law 12:

“In addition, a player who, when not challenging for the ball, deliberately strikes an opponent or any other person on the head or face with the hand or arm, is guilty of violent conduct unless the force used was negligible.”

He didn't deliberately strike him in the face? He deliberately struck him in the chest and accidentally caught him in the face.

(I am not sure if I am agreeing or disagreeing with you BTW!!)

 

[coconino]

What were we singing just then about Michael Oliver?

“Michael Oliver, it’s all about you”

 

[LongLostBee]

That was moronic from Schade.
Seriously not helping our cause.

 

[Sheerwater Bee]

We are for Brighton, what Bournemouth are for us.....

 

[brooks]

Schade trying to get sent off