Thomas Frank (ex-Spurs head coach) (30 Viewers)

[Les Beeavinu]

I presume that he will have to forego some of his Spurs pay off if he takes a new job.

 

[WesHa]

Loyalty

Loyalty is fine to a point, but having experienced what we have in the last 1 and a bit seasons would you still want TF here, i dont think so. There comes a point when every manager goes past their shelf life, my guess is Thomas knew this and more importantly the club knew this. New blood, new ideas etc etc is often uderestimated imo.

I remember when Steve Perryman was with us, Just before he had a chance and left word was he was going for a more direct style which Phil Holder adopted during his tenure. Similarly I got the feeling Thomas was going to utilise Mikel D more and more whilst not be so defensively minded which was somewhat disappointingly hindered by injuries. He regularly talked about adding layers but his previous approach served us well and we will always grateful for that. Keith seems to have upped it a level with great effect by and large been more attacking and long may it continue. Just my take on it but I think Thomas tactics were still evolving . You couldn’t accuse him of being too defensive previously in the championship.

 

[bexleybee]

if he takes them down, he’s truly a Bees legend and we build a statue

 

[Gee Bee]

I think somebody like TF, who everybody knows is very knowledgable and speak well on tv, will be fine

They used to say the same about Alan Curbishley

 

[Edmundo]

honestly, the mind of a football fan. Let’s cast our memories back…..

Now, whilst not true of the majority perhaps, myself included, there were numerous voices who after KA’s storming start made it know that they felt he was an improvement on TF. That Thomas had brought us as far as he could.

Cast your mind forward to his dismissal from Spurs. “Grass isn’t always greener”. “He had a brilliant set up here but gave it up”. “He knew the mess he was getting into”.

It’s easy to demand loyalty when you’re the ones moving forward. Are you honestly telling me there are some who would be upset, offended even, if Thomas was to attempt to get his managerial career back on track Despite the position we now find ourselves in, much of it down to what he achieved.

Would put a dampener on his achievements with us? What c**p

I wish Thomas every success as long as it’s not managing Putney, the pooperscoopers or Chelsea. If he takes charge of any of those, I will want him to lose every match. I wouldn’t want them to do well just because he’s the manager.

 

[Beelieve!]

His last home game for us was against Fulham I think
When they beat us 3-2

 

[Banana]

I'd just be concerned about how many names he remembers from our list.

chef won't have too far to travel either

 

[Les Beeavinu]

chef won't have too far to travel either

I was referring to players we have previously identified.

 

[BURFORD BEE]

Will go way down in my estimation if he goes there

He went down in mind when he left

 

[BURFORD BEE]

I know football is football and loyalty doesn’t seem to exist these days, but it would be such a stupid decision if he were to do it.

As much as some will be neutral about it, the meaning behind what he’s achieved with us would go out the window during the first derby, and the noise in the Gtech would make that pretty clear.

It would make the Harlee Dean moment seem minuscule in comparison.

I feel a song coming on.... now what rhymes with Frank

 

[Banana]

I was referring to players we have previously identified.

Yes but I expect we have a wider story to sell than just the manager on the day.

 

[Hullbee]

Yes but I expect we have a wider story to sell than just the manager on the day.

Indeed nothing can beat the pride of living and working in the London Borough of Hounslow

 

[EalingBrum Bee]

Still lives in Richmond, I believe?

I think this has an air of inevitability about it.

AFC Richmond need a new Head Coach as Roy Kent has gone to Chelsea.

 

[Jezybee]

I wonder if the padel courts are still up at Spurs training ground....

Added more more write offs to the Spurs balance sheet. Padel Bubble May Be Bursting as UK Courts Overexpand | Mike Knowles posted on the topic | LinkedIn
As someone who would like to spend their retirement playing tennis, can’t wait for this outdoor ping pong fad to be consigned to the dustbin of history.

 

[True Bee]

AFC Richmond need a new Head Coach as Roy Kent has gone to Chelsea.

Burnley would be a good fit for Thomas, smaller club, rock bottom of the Championship and the only way would be up along with Ben Mee as his assistant and far enough away from Fulscum and Chelski

 

[Hullbee]

Burnley would be a good fit for Thomas, smaller club, rock bottom of the Championship and the only way would be up along with Ben Mee as his assistant and far enough away from Fulscum and Chelski

No way he is far better than that in my mind and would take serious offense in his mind tgat Burnley are now his level

 

[horshambees]

AFC Richmond need a new Head Coach as Roy Kent has gone to Chelsea.

Michael Appleton has applied.

 

[hanworthbee]

Next destination palace

 

[Boston Bee]

Next destination palace

I absolutely could see this happening

 

[Gawain]

Burnley would be a good fit for Thomas, smaller club, rock bottom of the Championship and the only way would be up along with Ben Mee as his assistant and far enough away from Fulscum and Chelski

Can't agree with that.

Burnley's problems all stem from when Mike Garlick sold the club to some Yanks who clearly know nothing about football, and are acting like "Pound shop Glazers" i.e. buying in then piling the debt onto the club itself.

But while eg Man U are a big enough cash machine to withstand that, Burnley most certainly aren't, especially when outside of the PL. So that when even Sean Dyche couldn't see a way of carrying on under the new lot, what hope could there be for an outsider like Thomas?

I'd say we're looking at another Wigan here, maybe even a Leicester - unmanageable.

 

[Untouchable]

Being linked heavily with the Palace job with Sage expected to be sacked.


View: https://x.com/skysportsnews/status/2119540166322766033?a=QE5C721R3mH2YIAeJqI&s=46



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[Hullbee]

A bit scummy of Thomas negotiating (potentially) when the other guy is still in post

 

[80s Bee]

A bit scummy of Thomas negotiating (potentially) when the other guy is still in post

I think it’s completely normal practice. If he waits for a job where there is no incumbent then he might never work in football management again.

 

[Les Beeavinu]

A bit scummy of Thomas negotiating (potentially) when the other guy is still in post

I doubt he rang them.

 

[Banana]

A bit scummy of Thomas negotiating (potentially) when the other guy is still in post

Nothing in those tweets suggest that the two parties have been in touch.

 

[Wooburn Bee]

I think it’s completely normal practice. If he waits for a job where there is no incumbent then he might never work in football management again.

They will have to pay him a signing in fee to compensate for mitigation monies lost from Spurs. Suspect that runs out end of season so he would be free and clear then to accept another job.

 

[Jezybee]

Nothing in those tweets suggest that the two parties have been in touch.

See you’re holding out for a more lucrative Agent’s fee

 

[Banana]

View: https://x.com/henrywinter/status/2118948858986107095?a=l_-qZPMde-_ty-b_Xmc&s=20

 

[Banana]

Only one appearance on MotD, correct?

 

[beeeehive]

Massive odds on favourite to become Palace manager

Sage set to be fired today

 

[coconino]

Definitely looks like a good fit for TF.

 

[Wouldbee]

Definitely looks like a good fit for TF.

do you think so? they are bottom, heart ripped out of them. I doubt hes the type to deliver immediate wins in that situation. Hes more of a build and patience manager isnt he?

 

[KenCootesNephew]

Sage set to be fired today

He's off to Scarborough Fair

 

[GuyBee]

Only one appearance on MotD, correct?

Was he on last?

 

[coconino]

do you think so? they are bottom, heart ripped out of them. I doubt hes the type to deliver immediate wins in that situation. Hes more of a build and patience manager isnt he?

I was thinking along the lines that it’s a club in London (wouldn’t need to move the family), with a toe in Europe, but already on the slide so it wouldn’t hurt his reputation if it didn’t work out but would boost it if it did. I agree though, it would need Palace to show some forbearance and imagination.

 

[stevil]

Sage set to be fired today

Looks like they weren’t prepared to give him thyme…

 

[HMDBFC]

Looks like they weren’t prepared to give him thyme…

another season.....?

 

[Banana]

Maybe he should hold out for the Manchester United job...

 

[Hippobee]

The biggest problem TF has got if he wants a PL job is that he is only likely to be offered a job by a struggling club, like Palace. And a struggling club needs someone that can make an instant impact. That isn't Thomas.

If he went to Palace and took them down, I'm really not sure he would be kept on. if he did and was given a couple of seasons, he'd probably get them back up. And if he did take them down, I doubt he gets offered a PL job again.

I think his best chance at a PL job is to take a club up from the championship.

 

[Untouchable]

Maybe he should hold out for the Manchester United job...

Pochettino now being linked heavily with the Man U job.

IMO Palace is a good job for TF. There appears to be lots of off field problems at Palace and I think TF can fix those without being lumbered with the volume of dickheads he had at Spurs.

Different levels of expectation too. Survival will be the aim this season. That can be built on if Palace recruit better next summer.

 

[brentford born & bred]

TF's next move will be interesting since a narrative has built up in the media and fans in general that he can't manage a "big" club or even a smaller club without the support structure with regards to recruitment and specialist coaches he enjoyed at Brentford.
I don't know enough about Palace as to whether they have a good support structure. However on the journey back yesterday from my long weekend in Brighton an allegedly ITK Palace fan on Talksport appeared to indicate they didn't and he wasn't sure if TF was the man to build it.

 

[Greybeard]

I was thinking along the lines that it’s a club in London (wouldn’t need to move the family), with a toe in Europe, but already on the slide so it wouldn’t hurt his reputation if it didn’t work out but would boost it if it did. I agree though, it would need Palace to show some forbearance and imagination.

That will be the case whoever they appoint.

 

[Wouldbee]

I was thinking along the lines that it’s a club in London (wouldn’t need to move the family), with a toe in Europe, but already on the slide so it wouldn’t hurt his reputation if it didn’t work out but would boost it if it did. I agree though, it would need Palace to show some forbearance and imagination.

Forbearance and imagination you say ? Yes that sounds like every Premier league club ever (except the three B's)

 

[snowstormbee]

He's off to Scarborough Fair

Along with Parsley, Rosemary and Thyme, I presume

 

[Westlad]

I was thinking along the lines that it’s a club in London (wouldn’t need to move the family), with a toe in Europe, but already on the slide so it wouldn’t hurt his reputation if it didn’t work out but would boost it if it did. I agree though, it would need Palace to show some forbearance and imagination.

I think it would hurt his reputation if it didn't work out. The "Yeah but everyone does well at Brentford" (even though noone does well at spurs...) narrative will stick.

In fact you fear for Keith ever getting another job in football if Frank doesn't succeed at Palace...

 

[benfleetbee]

Along with Parsley, Rosemary and Thyme, I presume

Poor old Sage got left behind

 

[Beecareful]

I still hope he will return to us in some non- coaching capacity one day. Group managing director or similar.

 

[Jay Bee]

The biggest problem TF has got if he wants a PL job is that he is only likely to be offered a job by a struggling club, like Palace. And a struggling club needs someone that can make an instant impact. That isn't Thomas.

If he went to Palace and took them down, I'm really not sure he would be kept on. if he did and was given a couple of seasons, he'd probably get them back up. And if he did take them down, I doubt he gets offered a PL job again.

I think his best chance at a PL job is to take a club up from the championship.

You're right he could only get a job at a struggling club. That's the cost of failing at Spurs. Similar trajectory to Graham Potter - Brighton then, Chelsea, then a break, then West Ham.

Being honest his best chance at a PL job is to take the PL job that is offered to him.

If it goes wrong again he probably won't get another PL job but he could still take one in the Championship. No need to take another step down the ladder just yet. It is hard to take a club up from the Championship even if it appears to be a "good " club.

I told me Palace supporting friend that he tends to have a slow start but people have praised his motivational style and his positive mentality: A journalist said today Palace often drop their shoulders after going a goal down - he would be good for fixing that.

 

[Untouchable]

View: https://x.com/theathleticfc/status/2120283075666198786?a=Znmyf_ri7edMguCkBK4&s=46

 

[Edmundo]

What is it about Crystal Palace that would allow Thomas to do better there than he did at Brentford?