Keith Andrews (Head Coach) (8 Viewers)

[Les Beeavinu]

True, suspect no one will be more disappointed than Andrews. It was the comment regarding credit in the bank and that he’s using it up, I was replying too.

It’s not like we’re rooted to the bottom of the table, without a win in 15 games, that means he’s still in position based on past accomplishments. I doubt the key decision makers in the Club are too concerned with history. As the mantra goes “Past performance is not indicative of future results”

Indeed, we went to Brighton and lost like 90% of Bees fans and 99% of opposition fans expected. Why anyone would think a manager is under pressure as a result is beyond me.

 

[MJW1]

Indeed, we went to Brighton and lost like 90% of Bees fans and 99% of opposition fans expected. Why anyone would think a manager is under pressure as a result is beyond me.

I dont think these stupid international breaks help. Keep stop starting league games also is not helping, there is no consistency for the players.

 

[BURFORD BEE]

...we played Chelsea at the right time... similar to Spurs... absolutely fine in my book....points make prizes after all....but we were put in our place by BaHA today....we simply were.

Can't see how you can say that when the game plan goes out of the window when we played with 10 men. Second half was a draw. Who knows how the game would have developed

 

[To Bee Someone]

Great post match interview. And he's spot on. Frustrating afternoon. Let's hope he uses the international break well

 

[bluebirdccfc]

Stick or twist?

Plenty of talented managers in the Championship to poach from. Could be Chris Houghton leaving Brighton moment, despite him keeping them up

 

[taxi driver]

Keith can play who he likes but really sh*t decisions from players are going to negate any team selection issues.

I think Keith got it wrong and they seemed to have an extra player likely due to our tactical set up, however, It's ok for Keith to have the gameplay wrong but due to Thiago and KLP's interventions he had no real chance to change it.

The daft duo took away Keith's options.

 

[Untouchable]

Stick or twist?

Plenty of talented managers in the Championship to poach from. Could be Chris Houghton leaving Brighton moment, despite him keeping them up

There is zero chance of KA going anywhere.

Not sure why this should be of any interest to a Cardiff fan.

 

[upnorthbee]

Stick or twist?

Plenty of talented managers in the Championship to poach from. Could be Chris Houghton leaving Brighton moment, despite him keeping them up

One of the weirdest posts ever.... and it takes some doing.

 

[brentfordfc4ever]

We need to regroup and have a reset over the international break. We are certainly going backwards in several areas at the moment. None more so than the football on the eye. It's pretty dire at the moment.

 

[TorbayBee]

...we wouldn't have beat them with 12 men mate....they are a very talented football team... regardless of red cards... penalty...they are simply a better team..... sometimes you have to accept that.... tough as it is.

No , I do not have to accept that. You may believe it I do not. How things would have panned out 11 v11 is unknown . We started slowly and uncertainly but over 90 minutes momentum swings happen. I have a number of Brighton STs friends and they all say at the moment everything is going for them at the same time all their players are on fire. They do not believe it will last.
The game swung in 2 decisions , one by VAR and the other by the ref. They are good but not as good as you are making them out to be.

 

[Norfolk Bee]

Superb post match interview. Pushed all the right buttons, we need to do better and deplored what the top level professional game is becoming.

 

[taxi driver]

No , I do not have to accept that. You may believe it I do not. How things would have panned out 11 v11 is unknown . We started slowly and uncertainly but over 90 minutes momentum swings happen. I have a number of Brighton STs friends and they all say at the moment everything is going for them at the same time all their players are on fire. They do not believe it will last.
The game swung in 2 decisions , one by VAR and the other by the ref. They are good but not as good as you are making them out to be.

I'm with you on this.

I felt Thiago was getting the better of Dunk with his movement. Ajer had a chance from a corner.

They had lots of possession and had scored a great goal and we looked like we needed a formation change and being only a goal down would be very much still in the game with plenty of options on the bench.

I think Brighton are better than us overall but it wouldn't stop us getting a point or three as one decision,moment of madness or piece of sublime skill can change any game at this level.

 

[rogercross]

No , I do not have to accept that. You may believe it I do not. How things would have panned out 11 v11 is unknown . We started slowly and uncertainly but over 90 minutes momentum swings happen. I have a number of Brighton STs friends and they all say at the moment everything is going for them at the same time all their players are on fire. They do not believe it will last.
The game swung in 2 decisions , one by VAR and the other by the ref. They are good but not as good as you are making them out to be.

Iraola actually said it out loud last week I am telling my players to dive on the ground if they are touched by an opposition player. Brighton got the same memo. Cheats proposer with knob jockey referees and incompetent Pratwell on VAR. The cheats need retrospective action and Brighton manager with the dodgy Barnet had already set this outcome up with his Brentford physical comment - he coached it and ‘the game is gone’ as JP stated on MOTD. (Fair play to him).

 

[Gee Bee]

2 losses, both when down to 10 for more than half a game and against opposition currently 2nd & 4th. We’ve played 6 of the top half and beaten two of them by 3 to nil. Our 3 wins are 8 to nil. It’s not too bad, we just need to turn spells where we look like when we played Spurs for longer spells. Games through to Xmas are not going to be easy. But overall we should be satisfied with first 25% played.

 

[Albee]

I think we need to bring a bit of perspective here. KA's 10 man Brentford lost 2-0 (with a soft penalty) to a Brighton side that stuffed the champions 3-0 very recently.

 

[Greybeard]

Got his tactics so wrong today and when he says post match we have to learn i think he should look at himself first he has credit in the bank but is using it up fast

He's only in his second year of management and will therefore make tactical misjudgements sometimes. We knew that when we appointed him. But he had countervailing qualities which justify his position.

As a relatively small club it is hard to attract elite managers so we have to find less experienced candidates with potential to grow. Andrews is such a candidate, one we already knew well, and has done pretty well so far. Now he needs our patience.

One thing that might help is to appoint a shrewd tactically minded coach to help him. I'm thinking of a senior figure, very experienced, possibly someone coming to the end of their career. Maybe on a part time basis. Just a thought. The opportunity may or may not arise.

 

[BURFORD BEE]

Stick or twist?

Plenty of talented managers in the Championship to poach from. Could be Chris Houghton leaving Brighton moment, despite him keeping them up

Feck off back to Cardiff

 

[Guildford Bee]

2 losses, both when down to 10 for more than half a game and against opposition currently 2nd & 4th. We’ve played 6 of the top half and beaten two of them by 3 to nil. Our 3 wins are 8 to nil. It’s not too bad, we just need to turn spells where we look like when we played Spurs for longer spells. Games through to Xmas are not going to be easy. But overall we should be satisfied with first 25% played.

Spurs were such a mess at the start of the season it’s difficult to read too much into that game.

It’s been an odd season so far, I feel like we haven’t played badly but for the most part haven’t played that well either.

We certainly lack fluidity and KA can no longer use the “it’s a new team” excuse.

 

[Adam]

Some strange comments, we started solidly and they didn't really have a sniff at goal until out of nowhere comes a screamer thats scored 1 in 100 times. Then 8 minutes later you are down to 10 men. Aside from an arguably soft penalty Brighton didn't muster much else. Not sure how anyone can blame KA for yesterdays defeat, its on Thiago and KLP for two lapses of judgement. Oh, and Brighton are 2nd, not some plucky lower/mid table team we should be beating.

 

[Bigbee]

At 11 V 11 were second best and their aggressive pressing was causing problems at the back .We looked nervous trying to play it out and I was shouting to get rid of it up the field .Ajer was put under pressure ,lost the ball then made a bad tackle trying to get it back and got yellow .He's a liability most games, a challenge he made shortly after made me cringe .I thought it was him who would get sent off .Who knows , we may of weathered it and played better . The tactics and formation werre wrong .I dont like KA trying to find place for Hickey

 

[jlove]

At 11 V 11 were second best and their aggressive pressing was causing problems at the back .We looked nervous trying to play it out and I was shouting to get rid of it up the field .Ajer was put under pressure ,lost the ball then made a bad tackle trying to get it back and got yellow .He's a liability most games, a challenge he made shortly after made me cringe .I thought it was him who would get sent off .Who knows , we may of weathered it and played better . The tactics and formation werre wrong .I dont like KA trying to find place for Hickey

Keith, the other coaches and the analysts must've known the way Brighton would come at us, the high press, especially when hesitating as we were playing out from the back.

That's the most disappointing thing and, to me, the team selection and the rather odd use of Lewis-Potter and Hickey was just wrong from the start. We were defending in a panic; their press and wide overloads shouldn't have been a surprise and they forced so many errors that stronger coaching and on-pitch leadership ought to have minimised.

As Keith said post-match: we need to learn the lessons from that.

 

[Bill Benn]

Thought his post match comments were spot on basically saying we are becoming naive in these premeditated incidents.Regarding the starting line up seems like the big issue with some was the inclusion of Hickey we will never know if the inclusion of a Damsguaard Jensen who have been underperforming of late would have made a difference.

 

[Chorlton Bee]

Stick or twist?

Plenty of talented managers in the Championship to poach from. Could be Chris Houghton leaving Brighton moment, despite him keeping them up

I’m going to pass on this one, and wait a few years for your next zinger

 

[aawharris]

Stick or twist?

Plenty of talented managers in the Championship to poach from. Could be Chris Houghton leaving Brighton moment, despite him keeping them up

I think you are on the wrong forum fella

 

[mhead bee]

I dont think these stupid international breaks help. Keep stop starting league games also is not helping, there is no consistency for the players.

And the injuries we pick up.

 

[mhead bee]

Stick or twist?

Plenty of talented managers in the Championship to poach from. Could be Chris Houghton leaving Brighton moment, despite him keeping them up

Only 2 narrow defeats all season and both when we have had a player unjustly sent off, and you think we are going t sack the manager, after the start we have had and after last season?

I think you need to stick to Cardiff as you know nothing on how our club us run. The club pick the right man for the job and a few results don't change that equation.

 

[BURFORD BEE]

Only 2 narrow defeats all season and both when we have had a player unjustly sent off, and you think we are going t sack the manager, after the start we have had and after last season?

I think you need to stick to Cardiff as you know nothing on how our club us run. The club pick the right man for the job and a few results don't change that equation.

Too polite by far just tell him to **** off !!

 

[nick logan]

Spurs were such a mess at the start of the season it’s difficult to read too much into that game.

It’s been an odd season so far, I feel like we haven’t played badly but for the most part haven’t played that well either.

We certainly lack fluidity and KA can no longer use the “it’s a new team” excuse.

He doesn’t need any excuses . We are top 8

 

[Jim Rourke]

Stick or twist?

Plenty of talented managers in the Championship to poach from. Could be Chris Houghton leaving Brighton moment, despite him keeping them up

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[BFC1997]

Stick or twist?

Plenty of talented managers in the Championship to poach from. Could be Chris Houghton leaving Brighton moment, despite him keeping them up

What compels a Cardiff fan to post this on here I have no idea

 

[maddogging]

Some strange comments, we started solidly and they didn't really have a sniff at goal until out of nowhere comes a screamer thats scored 1 in 100 times. Then 8 minutes later you are down to 10 men. Aside from an arguably soft penalty Brighton didn't muster much else. Not sure how anyone can blame KA for yesterdays defeat, its on Thiago and KLP for two lapses of judgement. Oh, and Brighton are 2nd, not some plucky lower/mid table team we should be beating.

We set up as the plucky lower mid table team, that’s the annoyance. They got in behind twice early on down the left side as Hickey and KLP had no idea on there spaces.
I hated the formation. Who knows what it would have looked like with 90mins at 11v11

 

[Adam]

We set up as the plucky lower mid table team, that’s the annoyance. They got in behind twice early on down the left side as Hickey and KLP had no idea on there spaces.
I hated the formation. Who knows what it would have looked like with 90mins at 11v11

I think there is also a case that we needed to weather the storm for the first 20-25 mins, Brighton have a habit of starting fast. We did a similar thing against Bournemouth (albeit we were sh*t throughout that day) and it got the result. Maybe Keith's plan was that if we kept it 0-0 early, then the game would come back to us. You can't factor a screamer like than and what Thiago did in your pre match plans though!

 

[lanzabee]

What compels a Cardiff fan to post this on here I have no idea

Another slooooow day in the valleys

 

[BuzzingBee95]

I find even the suggestion KA’s job might be under threat laughable.

To those who are pondering a change, have you not been watching us for the past 10 years let alone seen the chaos that often ensues the moment you start chilling and changing?

We’ve been spoilt as fans over the past decade. Spoilt. What we’ve achieved, given our resources, is nothing short of miraculous. Built on backing bosses, promoting from within. But now that there are a few demanding success more than ever, we should break from that. Ridiculous

 

[mhead bee]

Spurs were such a mess at the start of the season it’s difficult to read too much into that game.

It’s been an odd season so far, I feel like we haven’t played badly but for the most part haven’t played that well either.

We certainly lack fluidity and KA can no longer use the “it’s a new team” excuse.

I have never heard him make an excuse yet

 

[brentfordfc4ever]

At 11 V 11 were second best and their aggressive pressing was causing problems at the back .We looked nervous trying to play it out and I was shouting to get rid of it up the field .Ajer was put under pressure ,lost the ball then made a bad tackle trying to get it back and got yellow .He's a liability most games, a challenge he made shortly after made me cringe .I thought it was him who would get sent off .Who knows , we may of weathered it and played better . The tactics and formation werre wrong .I dont like KA trying to find place for Hickey

Ajer has not been a liability most games!

 

[Guildford Bee]

I have never heard him make an excuse yet

Excuse is the wrong word. But he made a point, a lot, last season we were a new team, particularly going forward, and would take time to click. IMHO we're not clicking going forward and haven't been anywhere near our best other than the first half of Leeds away. Since then we've played well in patches but not consistently.

 

[PGH_Bee]

Needs to institute a layer of discipline amongst the players. Players need to find the line between playing with passion and not reacting to obvious attempts to antagonize.

 

[Gawain]

I think you are on the wrong forum planet fella

Fixed

 

[JANORAK]

We set up as the plucky lower mid table team, that’s the annoyance. They got in behind twice early on down the left side as Hickey and KLP had no idea on there spaces.
I hated the formation. Who knows what it would have looked like with 90mins at 11v11

I don’t think I’ve ever seen a back 5 (if that’s what it was) intentionally set up with 3x full backs. I assume it was literally to stop BHA exploiting the spaces out wide. it was not successful in stemming chances, one leading to their early goal. Adjustments and changes had to follow by us, but BHA kept their width and had the freedom of Sussex all game.
I thought Brighton got bored in the second half, with the game already won.
What were we playing at the end? 4-3-1-1?

 

[Greybeard]

Needs to institute a layer of discipline amongst the players. Players need to find the line between playing with passion and not reacting to obvious attempts to antagonize.

Of course. It's not that hard. Laugh in your opponents face and walk away. Contempt not retaliation.

 

[TadB]

Of course. It's not that hard. Laugh in your opponents face and walk away. Contempt not retaliation.

Easy to say laugh, much harder implement that advice. Fooball is a game of passion most of those involved are playing on the edge.

 

[andyrew]

Another slooooow day in the valleys

Or perhaps he's uncomfortable at the prospect of their Irish star seeking pastures new in the next transfer window?

 

[PGH_Bee]

Of course. It's not that hard. Laugh in your opponents face and walk away. Contempt not retaliation.

Don't fully disagree, but when you play a combative style and are getting frustrated it can be quite easy to cross that line when pressed.

 

[Bangor Bee]

Needs to tone down the "playing on the edge" stuff, which is stoking a poor disciplinary record (surely everyone knows that a combative approach is needed in the Premier League?), and get back to focusing on the pass and movement style of football that we were playing pre-season and in the early games.

 

[Kingston Bee]

Needs to tone down the "playing on the edge" stuff, which is stoking a poor disciplinary record (surely everyone knows that a combative approach is needed in the Premier League?), and get back to focusing on the pass and movement style of football that we were playing pre-season and in the early games.

We have been on the wrong end of a few questionable decisions recently that has not helped. Dont think there us much wrong that a couple of tweaks and a bit of luck will correct. Keep the faith KA knows what he is doing.

 

[lanzabee]

Or perhaps he's uncomfortable at the prospect of their Irish star seeking pastures new in the next transfer window?

I wouldn't know mate, I don't follow lower league football

 

[jlove]

get back to focusing on the pass and movement style of football that we were playing pre-season and in the early games.

Even though we have an enlarged squad, that style of play has been restricted by the patchy availability of Jensen and Damsgaard. Without them (interchangeably), our passing is a bit 'stodgy' and those who are the potential receivers have become unsure of making their moves. Not having Collins at the back, who will also make passes forward quickly, is also a restraint. There's a lot of moving parts that need to gel together.

We're also continually affected by the lack of ball-carriers, like Carvalho, Milambo and Dasilva, to mix things up. Without variation, we become very predictable.

 

[JCMcBee]

Even though we have an enlarged squad, that style of play has been restricted by the patchy availability of Jensen and Damsgaard. Without them (interchangeably), our passing is a bit 'stodgy' and those who are the potential receivers have become unsure of making their moves. Not having Collins at the back, who will also make passes forward quickly, is also a restraint. There's a lot of moving parts that need to gel together.

We're also continually affected by the lack of ball-carriers, like Carvalho, Milambo and Dasilva, to mix things up. Without variation, we become very predictable.

Indeed....imo we haven't had a settled side this season... for various reasons as you point out... not a great deal KA can do about that.... and for me it's why we haven't been at our best recently... it must actually be a very difficult thing for KA to manage... but interestingly he never uses it as an excuse.. says a lot.

 

[Wilton Bee]

He needs to get out defence at corners sorted out better, the times KLP is having to mark a giant leaves him nothing to do apart from grapple with him. I know it's the modern thing for zonal defending, but surely we must realise teams have now sussed out where this weak link is at corners.