Thomas Frank (ex-Spurs head coach) (36 Viewers)

[Invipai]

Nothing...but Palace is probably about as good as he's going to get now. He swung and he missed.

 

[marvelous007]

Nothing...but Palace is probably about as good as he's going to get now. He swung and he missed.

I dont know what the levels of expectation are at Palace, but they have won 3 trophies in the last cpuple of seasons. Would they be content just to stay up this season? I agree he probably not get a better offer at the moment.

 

[Kingston Bee]

I dont know what the levels of expectation are at Palace, but they have won 3 trophies in the last cpuple of seasons. Would they be content just to stay up this season? I agree he probably not get a better offer at the moment.

I think staying up is huge. The financials alone are a massive incentive, and who is to say Palace wouldnt go into free fall once relegated from the PL, especially after having to sell 3 or 4 key players.

 

[Invipai]

I think Palace got above their station for a couple of years. They were always a club content just to stay in the Premier League, but the right manager and a few good players allowed them to win an FA Cup and then Europe from there.

I would suggest they are back at their normal levels now, or even slightly worse given that squad has lost Guehi, Eze and Munoz in the last 12 months. It will be a bit of a job for whoever comes in.

 

[Untouchable]

Looks like this will happen.


View: https://x.com/skysportsnews/status/2120520492146717179?a=JM_u1QouoiTy_hMXogo&s=46

 

[brentfordfc4ever]

Looks like this will happen.


View: https://x.com/skysportsnews/status/2120520492146717179?a=JM_u1QouoiTy_hMXogo&s=46

I've never seen so much open public talk about owners talking to other managers whilst they have one employed!!

Horrible industry

 

[Les Beeavinu]

I've never seen so much open public talk about owners talking to other managers whilst they have one employed!!

Horrible industry

I do wonder sometimes whether a manager ever has grounds to sue a club for breach of contract. It would be if it was the other way round.

 

[Phreebee]

I have a bad feeling about this. Thomas might be a great manager if he’s given the time to introduce his own culture. But I don’t think he’s necessarily the guy you want in a relegation dog fight, with the pressure rising and games running out.

Assuming he hasn’t borrowed Martin Allen’s speedos.

 

[David Brentford]

I have a bad feeling about this. Thomas might be a great manager if he’s given the time to introduce his own culture. But I don’t think he’s necessarily the guy you want in a relegation dog fight, with the pressure rising and games running out.

Assuming he hasn’t borrowed Martin Allen’s speedos.

Agreed. I'm not sure they have the players or the money or the patience

 

[Jay Bee]

What is it about Crystal Palace that would allow Thomas to do better there than he did at Brentford?

Not much, which is why he wouldn't have left Brentford for Palace (at least I would have been very sad and very confused if he had).

As he's out of work he needs to go somewhere that will take him, and that is likely to be the bottom half of the PL.

 

[Westlad]

It'll be his first experience of ever managing in the premier league zelegation zone

 

[Jay Bee]

I dont know what the levels of expectation are at Palace, but they have won 3 trophies in the last cpuple of seasons. Would they be content just to stay up this season? I agree he probably not get a better offer at the moment.

It's funny how the community shield does or does not count as a trophy depending on the point being made.

Arteta didn't win a trophy at Arsenal for six years (because Community shields don't count)
But Pep won 20 "major trophies" at Man City (because Community shields do count).

I'm very happy that the community shield is not a trophy worth adding to anyone's list of honours but Palace have done well to win TWO trophies in recent years.

 

[Bigbee]

I have a bad feeling about this. Thomas might be a great manager if he’s given the time to introduce his own culture. But I don’t think he’s necessarily the guy you want in a relegation dog fight, with the pressure rising and games running out.

Assuming he hasn’t borrowed Martin Allen’s speedos.

I agree , and he was already learning the culture under Smith , and when he got the gig he was hardly an instant hit .Only Brentford knew to stick by their appointment . Palace need a Dyche or some one , but I think Dyche is fed up of being Dyche and wants media work now

 

[Les Beeavinu]

Thomas and Sean Dyche are good friends I think, maybe they should both do it!

 

[Twickenhamben]

I do wonder sometimes whether a manager ever has grounds to sue a club for breach of contract. It would be if it was the other way round.

I strongly suspect that Sarge’s severance and contract termination is all done while they talk to TF separately. Just a matter of announcing it.

Clubs wouldn’t be stupid enough to invite a wrongful dismissal claim.

 

[brentfordfc4ever]

I strongly suspect that Sarge’s severance and contract termination is all done while they talk to TF separately. Just a matter of announcing it.

Clubs wouldn’t be stupid enough to invite a wrongful dismissal claim.

I'm not so sure anymore. I think you're right about Palace and their owners but Wilcox and Barreda at United are a pair of arrogant w***ers.

 

[Kingston Bee]

Thomas and Sean Dyche are good friends I think, maybe they should both do it!

I know Dyche was in talks with Jordan before Sarge was appointed, but maybe Thomas is the slight favorite.

 

[TadB]

I do wonder sometimes whether a manager ever has grounds to sue a club for breach of contract. It would be if it was the other way round.

Is that not the reason they usually receive large compensation?

 

[EGHAM_BEE]

I would prefer if he got the USA job, I cannot see too many positives for him taking the CP job. Parrish a different animal to Benham.

 

[Ghost]

United Job going Thomas..

 

[horshambees]

Sage set to be fired today

About Thyme too.

 

[Windmill Rd Bee]

This is vastly preferable to if he’d ended up at Fulham. I hold no ill will towards Palace beyond a simmering jealousy for their recent trophy-winning exploits.

 

[Ashford Bees]

This is vastly preferable to if he’d ended up at Fulham. I hold no ill will towards Palace beyond a simmering jealousy for their recent trophy-winning exploits.

Our time will come, fear not. I reckon Thomas a good fit for Palace. Rather he went there than Putney !

 

[Westlad]

About Thyme too.

Should have been given the season

 

[Ashford Bees]

Should have been given the season

Their fans can be a bit salty

 

[unBEEliveable]

Their fans can be a bit salty

Think they were hoping to spice things up a bit….

 

[cliffbee]

For Thomas, this is the hospital pass to end all hospital passes. Bottom of the table with two of their best players agitating to leave the club. Taking over at Palace in the summer would have been a good opportunity, but now? I'd be surprised if he saves them from relegation so where does he go career-wise from there? I wish him good luck as he's a great bloke. He's going to need it!

 

[BURFORD BEE]

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For Thomas, this is the hospital pass to end all hospital passes. Bottom of the table with two of their best players agitating to leave the club. Taking over at Palace in the summer would have been a good opportunity, but now? I'd be surprised if he saves them from relegation so where does he go career-wise from there? I wish him good luck as he's a great bloke. He's going to need it!

Don't necessarily agree. Trouble with Spurs was that fans didn't want him in the first place, a squad full of misfits and prima Donna's, and ridiculously high expectations. His methods couldn't work there. His skill was in getting the best out of a small squad without big names and egos. I think it might work.

 

[Paul_T]

Their fans can be a bit salty

I know a couple of Palace fans who are really keen for TF to come in

 

[Beecareful]

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Don't necessarily agree. Trouble with Spurs was that fans didn't want him in the first place, a squad full of misfits and prima Donna's, and ridiculously high expectations. His methods couldn't work there. His skill was in getting the best out of a small squad without big names and egos. I think it might work.

I wonder if he'll come knocking for any of our squad in January.?

 

[Gawain]

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Don't necessarily agree. Trouble with Spurs was that fans didn't want him in the first place, a squad full of misfits and prima Donna's, and ridiculously high expectations. His methods couldn't work there. His skill was in getting the best out of a small squad without big names and egos. I think it might work.

Agree he must have a chance. Indeed if you'd asked me 12 months ago, I'd have said "definitely". But two things concern me.

First, for what was obviously a well-run club previously, they look to have screwed up in losing Glasner the way they did, then appointing someone who was clearly unsuited to the challenge of replacing him. Which makes you wonder whether the American investors may be interfering more with Parish's running of the club than previously? (Unsure) Either way, while you may get away with one misstep, the PL is much less forgiving for the second, meaning whoever takes over now HAS to get it right.

And second, I daresay the small, ego-free squad may well be looking to someone like Thomas to "save" them, and so be receptive. But does it have the basic quality to compete in this league? I mean, they've sold some key players without replacing them adequately. And even if they are basically good enough, if it should take Thomas even (a not unreasonable) eight or ten games to get his ideas across, Palace could be so far behind in the relegation places that they'd need snookers.

 

[Les Beeavinu]

I wonder if he'll be getting the band back together again.

 

[Jay Bee]

I wonder if he'll come knocking for any of our squad in January.?

He poached 0 of our players when he was at big time Spurs so I'm not too worried.

I could have imagined him wanting reunion a with Norgaard if he was still on the bench at Arsenal but he's a window too late for that.

 

[Les Beeavinu]

He poached 0 of our players when he was a big time Spurs so I'm not too worried.

I could have imagined him wanting reunion with Norgaard if he was still on the bench at Arsenal but he's a window too late for that.

Matti?

 

[Gawain]

I wonder if he'll come knocking for any of our squad in January.?

Who knows, might do?

But for the more established Bees players, at least, I suspect they'd want to wait until the summer (to see whether Palace stay up).

 

[Banana]

I wonder if he'll be getting the band back together again.

Chef could be in for a massive rise

 

[Banana]

For Thomas, this is the hospital pass to end all hospital passes.

No. Spurs was.

 

[Jay Bee]

Agree he must have a chance. Indeed if you'd asked me 12 months ago, I'd have said "definitely". But two things concern me.

First, for what was obviously a well-run club previously, they look to have screwed up in losing Glasner the way they did, then appointing someone who was clearly unsuited to the challenge of replacing him. Which makes you wonder whether the American investors may be interfering more with Parish's running of the club than previously? (Unsure) Either way, while you may get away with one misstep, the PL is much less forgiving for the second, meaning whoever takes over now HAS to get it right.

And second, I daresay the small, ego-free squad may well be looking to someone like Thomas to "save" them, and so be receptive. But does it have the basic quality to compete in this league? I mean, they've sold some key players without replacing them adequately. And even if they are basically good enough, if it should take Thomas even (a not unreasonable) eight or ten games to get his ideas across, Palace could be so far behind in the relegation places that they'd need snookers.

I would suggest Palace are not in THAT much of a state, 7 defeats out of 10 looks grim but they are only 2 points from safety.

It will be a worry that all of the promoted teams are doing sort of OK but Hull and Ipswich both appear to be four games without a win now. Palace have got 28 games make up a 4 point gap on them and Man City's points deduction may be other spot sorted. Teams have stayed up after far worse starts, even Palace themselves.

 

[BaildonBee]

I think Palace got above their station for a couple of years. They were always a club content just to stay in the Premier League, but the right manager and a few good players allowed them to win an FA Cup and then Europe from there.

I would suggest they are back at their normal levels now, or even slightly worse given that squad has lost Guehi, Eze and Munoz in the last 12 months. It will be a bit of a job for whoever comes in.

They have only ever managed to get over 50 Pts from 38 games once in all the time they have been in the PL and that was 24/25 under Glasner when they won the Cup. Consistently mediocre otherwise with occasional periods where they flatter to deceive.

 

[Paul_T]

Palace fan at work says it is TF taking over apparently

 

[Banana]

Palace fan at work says it is TF taking over apparently

Where did he read that? The same place the rest of us?

 

[Paul_T]

Where did he read that? The same place the rest of us?

Don't think he read it, it's on the grapevine as it were

 

[Banana]

Don't think he read it, it's on the grapevine as it were

Do you think it's "on the grapevine" because it's been all over the press for the last 3 days?

 

[Banana]

I wonder if he'll be getting the band back together again.

Very very likely I would have thought. Not many of them are doing much AFAIK. Plus who wants to live in Sunderland when you can live in London?

 

[Paul_T]

Do you think it's "on the grapevine" because it's been all over the press for the last 3 days?

Why did you ask me where he read it then?

 

[Banana]

TF well ahead in the popularity contest

 

[JANORAK]

TF well ahead in the popularity contest

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A who’s who, but who’s Moo?

 

[gamidov]

I wonder if he'll come knocking for any of our squad in January.?

Like who? He didnt come in for anyone when he was at Spurs and i dont know why any of our team would want to go to Palace anyway.

 

[Mick.C]

You could see Thomas revisiting old players not necessarily our players, but a Wissa or a want home Watkins to replace the want away Mateta, from us you could only really see him going for maybe a Jensen as old history together from or Rico.

 

[WarrenBee]

It'll be interesting to see how he gets on with the European games, as well as fighting off relegation.