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Well this is me finally able to tell you how it is from my end. Firstly I'd like to say that it has been an absolute pleasure playing for the Bees since I arrived in November 1997. Although the beginning of my career here was probably one of the worst periods to join a club whose problems behind the scenes were far worse than I had appreciated.The fact that it's fortunes were turned round so dramatically and quickly must be realised and appreciated by all Bees fans, it certainly was by the players! The last couple of years here have been memorable not only by the club winning the 3rd Div. in style but we have also gone on to put together a formidable squad of great potential. Unfortunately due to injuries to many key players last season we were not able to continue our form for the last part of the season, because I and everybody at the club felt we were serious contenders for promotion again. Regretably from that moment on things at the club seem to have come to a bit of a halt in terms of consistency and hope, although recently our upturn in form has mainly been down to Ray Lew and Bully and Wally making everyone believe in their own ability and have confidence. How it has worked! This is why I feel particularly sorry for Ray because everyone can see he is capable of putting a good side on the pitch playing attractive footy, but unfortunately Ron has decided from a business view of the club that he must unload players to reduce the wage bill. He pays us our money and if he lets me know that I am no longer needed then I must realise that I haven't got a long term future at Brentford. With this in mind and the fact that I have a family to consider and support I felt that it would be foolish not to go to speak to Oxford who obviously wanted me and are clearly ambitious and building for the future. I understand it must be frustrating for the fans to know that players are available to go and that the side is being depleted rather than replenished but these are the facts. For the record I went to see Ron before Xmas and requested a new contract for 3 reasons. 1. I was enjoying playing and playing well 2. I wanted to be a member of the squad for a longer period because of the fact that I felt at home at Brentford 3. I wanted long term security for me and my family as I had 18 months left on my contract. Unfortunately the request fell on deaf ears, and several weeks later I was informed that if an offer was acceptable to Ron I would be able to go. On Tuesday an offer was accepted from Oxford and I was told and advised that it would be in my best interests to have talks with them. These talks along with the knowledge that a new contract was not in the offing led to my decision to accept Oxford's offer. They are clearly a club with ambition (new stadium ready for 2001/2002) and they have a very experienced management team who made it clear I was very much part of their plans not only for this season but for the next 2 seasons. You may think it is a backward step for me to go to the team at the bottom of the league but if the worst does happen this year I've every belief it will only be a short term situation. I leave Brentford with fond memories and many friends not only on the playing side but also the staff at Griffin Park who have always been helpful and supportive. Seeing Gibbo's comments shows the feeling of the players towards each other and the fact that there are so many young, good players emerging should give hope to Brentford fans. However even now that I have left I still seem to be getting unfair critisism from certain quarters (The H, Leicester Bee & SC). I would like to say that, yes, I have improved my contract but not by as much as is said, but ask yourself the question If you are told by your Boss that you can leave your job as soon as someone wants you, would you leave to secure your family's future and your career? After all a footballer's career is relatively short and my happiness and that of my family must be uppermost in my thinking when I consider a move. I have done that and am happy with the outcome in every aspect. Ideally this decision would have been made at Brentford but it wasn't to be. Thanks again for the good times, Scotty.
 

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Ignore the criticism Andy, it is not representative.

I think the vast majority of regular bees fans would like to thank you for being so honest and also for all your sterling efforts over the last few seasons. I hope we can carry on where we left off without you.

All the best for this season and the future with Oxford to you and your family.

You deserve it.
 

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Thanks Andy. I, for one, will really miss your presence in the team. I hope it works out for you at Oxford United and will keep an eye out to see how you're doing. Hopefully the rest of the squad will prove me wrong in suspecting that you will be a huge loss. I hope too that you remember the good times at Griffin Park more than the bad ones and that the fans outnumber the critics.
 

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Well played Scotty. We know it was Noades' fault for selling you and I really wish he would get his cash book out and see the club succeed. Two years ago he bought Hermann for 850k so what is the difference between him buying a player for that amount of money now when our finances were worse then? Crazy.
 

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Unfair criticism Andy ? Look, i'm sorry to see you go and if you speak to gibbo, he'll mention to you supportive posts etc I've given to all when sh*t was flying around earlier in the season. My comment was in direct reference to the comment about you being a proven goalscorer and the fact is that up until this season you ain't been. I hope its not a purple patch and you go on and score a hatful for Oxford (except if you happen to play us again in the future). Thanks anyway for your commitment since you've been a Bee - You'll be missed by most. Good Luck in the future
 

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All the best and good luck with Oxford. No-one on this board could say with their hand on their heart that they would not have done the same in your position. Just try not to score against Brentford when you next play us!!
 

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*Stands up and applaudes Andy Scott*

*remembers Andy never answered my call to join De-Generation Bees
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Good luck mate, shame to see you leave but as you say family comes first, keep in touch on the board!


ANDY ANDY ANDY SCOTT.............
 

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First of all, my apologies to Andy if you feel that I have unfairly criticised you. I honestly have been one of your greatest fans over the last few years. My recent criticisms on this board have been borne out of sheer frustration, and also I have been trying to see a better situation out of you leaving.
I have no doubts that you are making the right move, as I have expressed on numerous occasions on this board, and having seen you at the Swindon game in the player's lounge, I desperately wanted to speak to you, and let you know how appreciative I was of your commitment to the club since you arrived.
I'm sorry that you are leaving with the impression that I am ungrateful for the service you have given, and I sincerely assure you that I am extremely grateful for what you have done, and the way you (and Quinny) have taken the flak like true professionals.

Good luck at Oxford, i mean it, and I hope you go on to fulfill any goals that you have within football, and also for your family.
 

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All the best Andy. I for one don't blame you for leaving, and understand your reasons for doing so. You have been a great asset for Brentford football club, and I for one am absolutely gutted to see you go. Hope you have a succesful career with oxford and for yours and Quinny's sakes steer Oxford cleer of relegation.
 

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Andy,
Credit to you for coming on here and giving us such an honest appraisal of how things have unfolded. No one in their right mind would seek to criticise you for taking the move. Your priority had to be to secure your future (and that of your family) and, given the circumstances at Brentford, you did absolutely the right thing.
I for one will miss seeing you in the team and want to thank you for your contribution at Brentford. You won't remember but you gave me one of my best Bees moments when you scored at Peterborough and we celebrated together.
All the best for the next step in your career.
 

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Thanks a lot for letting have the story from the horse's mouth. I believe that you have been our best player this season and have always played your heart out for the Bees, which is more than can be said for some of the players I have seen in over 20 years of supporting the team.

It is indeed a sad day for Brentford, but I wish you all the best at Oxfordf and for the future.
 

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This is Quinny here which may surprise a few people.I just wanted to come on here and say my goodbyes.I have meant to come on before but have just chose to sit back and read what is being talked about.I know that I am not everyone's cup of tea but I know my strenghts&capabalities and when I have played my preferred midfield position,I think my performances have better than at other positions.I had never played full-back in my career but I always want to play and give my best.I have no problem with certain criticism,I'm lucky enough to get paid to do something I enjoy,It's part&parcel of the job.The Kingstonian game did hurt us&I could hear all sorts,some very unfair in my opinion.My contract was up in june and there was no certainties&with mortgages to pay the deal couldn't really b turned down.Saying this I didn't want to leave Brentford because I believe we could/still might get into the play-offs,with a bit more financial backing&the team has been playing well recently.The dressing room spirit is excellent&will stay that way.Thanx for those who have fought my case&everyone get behind the lads on saturday.I'm off for a new challenge which I'm looking forward to.

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Thank you both for ur performaces while u have been at the club. Qunniy - u have definitely been one of our most reliable and consitent players over the past few years, and trust me, the majority of us appreciate what u do for the team.

Andy - thanks for ur goals and performances from practically every position on the pitch. We have always known what we are getting from you two.

Good luck to u both.
 

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Good luck guys and thanks untill you meet us in the league ! Andy go easy on us with your goals and Rob ease up on your pace eh ?

Just one thing,while your still around ,if youve read Gibbos postings you'll understand,can you give him some ' help '
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Your postings are quite eloquent/

Keep in touch,

( Andy ,youve got to wear Kevin Francis's boots )
 

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Fair play to Scotty and Quinny for posting their messages.

Cheers for your efforts for BFC.

All the best for your futures lads.
 

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Ultimate respects to the 2 of you and thank you.
From what Andy and Quinny are saying Ron was planning this for at least a month.
Please explain how you do not give your top scorer an improved contract?
The players with expiring deals are now probably putting out feelers for new clubs and I don't blame them.
 

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Quinny, remember what I told you after Swindon? I stand by my comments now, and I hope you go on to better things. I know that I have criticised you and praised you, but what I said was from the bottom of my red and white heart.
Good luck to you, and sorry to see you go.

If you fancy reconsidering?
 

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Thank you both for your service to the Bees & also for being honest & coming on here & explaining the situation (Unlike others we could mention) Now we've played & beaten your new mob twice (& once in cup), we won't cross paths again this year so good luck in the battle ahead., & I for one will give you both a good reception when/if Oxford come back to GP
 

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Thanks for the statements lads it is really good to know the real story although it is not pleasant reading for Bees fans.

I for one have never questioned your commitment which I believe you amply demonstrated by the number of different positions you played for the club.

Now you have left the club would you tell us what you really think of Ron Noades as both a chairman and a team manager?

Goodbye and Good Luck!
 

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Appreciate the time you have taken to explain your positions and put some clarity on this sorry business. Most of us just can'tb believe it really.

The vast majority of fans will wish you both good luck and bear you no ill for leaving. If you feel you have had some abuse at times this is from a small, but vocal minority. The other 4000 or so fans appreciated your contribution to the red and white stripes, paricularly this season.

Andy you will always be remebered for those late, late goals.
 

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i am sick of all this bullshit
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1) Andy Scott : congratulations on a fantastic season so far, where you have surpassed expectations. I hope you do well in your future career. I fully understand the reasons for your move as set out from your point of view, as i can from Uncle Ron's

2)I will not pretend to have always been a fan of yours however. I've often thought of you as lazy and disinterested. I've only been able to get to five games this season, and the oxford home game was easily the best i've seen you play. I thought you started the championship season fairly well, until an unfortunate injury. Before that I'd eternally doubted your heart and commitment up until the Luton home game, April 98, where you got in a barney with their keeper over a loose ball you had no right to. I'M NOT SLAGGING YOU OFF, but being honest here, something i feel proud of, and i hope the others on here who've criticised you before will stop bullshitting you too

3) Mr Quinn : as with Andy, i wish you luck at Oxford and wherever you end up. It's a shame you couldn't stay with the superbees, but i'm sure you'll get over it
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4) lol, i'm gonna sound like one of these bullshitters, i will look for old quotes of where i've defended you, but... i've always rated you mate, i saw your debut for palace against norwich (ages ago!!), you were superb!! since you've been here, all has not been rosy, but has been said quite a bit, every team needs their quinny, a workman in the midfield. Sorry to say, i'm sure we'll replace you, we have quite a few midfielders here!!!

thank you for the vent, hope you enjoy div 3 lads
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I can quite honestly say that I have nevr slagged off Scott and Quinn on this or any other message board. Whent hey first came neither of them looked that brilliant but after time when given their correct roles they showed what they could do.

Thank You and Goodbye.

You were not the weakist link.
 

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Sorry Dan, who the f**k do u think u are!!!

So anybody who has ever criticised a weak performance on an Internet message board cannot wish these two guys well because u regard that as bullshitting!!! HMmmmm.

Well I wish both of them well, I have never thought either of them set the world alight and have said so on occasions but they are honest guys and this is not the time to be sitting on some pretentious high and mighty fence saying "im the guy who always rated Quinny and only I can wish him well at Oxford". That is bullshit of the highest order as much as anything.

Why cant you just let evryone have their say without getting on your fuc***g high horse about the fact that they are not everybodies favourites.
 

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Andy and Quinny, Thanks guys, both for your honesty and your performances (this season you have been excellent) I hope the future pans out for you guys and also for us your former teamates and fans. Keep thinking of us especially when we play you! Cheers
 

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okay its all been said but just like to say my own personal good luck message to quinn and scotty, and respect for letting us know the score. leaves us all with a bit of a sour taste in the mouth as to ron's ambitions for us though dont it? lets hope we dont have another 'strip brentford of its assets and bugger of' situation a'la w£bb. wouldnt it be refreshing to have a chairman commited to the future of brentford football club?
 

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Thankyou both for taking the time to tell it how it really is.So often fans are left to draw their own conclusions- it's good to know the real reasons for you going.
Good luck to you both-you deserve to be at a club where you are valued by everyone.Hope it works out for you.
 

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Thanx for the memories guys. Its been great. Good luck at Oxford. And a big thanx for coming on here and explaining your side of the story.
 

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Scotty and Quinny are true professionals, thank you both very much. I'll definately make the short trip to the Manor Ground to watch you play. Good luck!
 

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isleworth bee, all i'm saying is i'm sure there are lots here who've criticised andy and quinny extensively, but are now sucking up to them and remembering what they want to so they can take up the general anti-noades stance

i'll get me coat
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look dan, Scotty was here for nearly 4 years. Ok, maybe he wasn't great at the beginning, maybe he made a few mistakes but in the last three seasons he's been one of our best players. He's had a great start to the championship season before he got injured, and he was superb when he got back to. Last season may not have been his best season here, but he played more out on the left wing (or in goal). Now this season he's been on top form, scoring goal after goal.

Quinny was at Brentford for over two seasons. He's been solid and reliable in midfield and defence.

Now they might not have been everyones cuppa tea but they always tried hard for us, they always did their best, and your critisising Brentford fans for thanking them for their services???
 

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thank you to two model professionals, all the best to you
 

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i wish i hadn't bothered now, but i was a bit angry whenever i posted that bullshitting thing.... i was just sick of all the praise being heaped on them by people who've previously slagged them, and owning up that i'd once slagged them off.... i wasn't criticising EVERYONE, just those who are being hypocritical, i couldn't put a finger on it and tell you who's who, but they know who they are....

the one thing i left off my andy scott goodbye, was i can only assume your improvement this year has been down to a lot of hard work, keep it up, and i hope you can carry on scoring
 

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Andy, cheers for the goals this year, and thanks in particular for the goal at Carlisle a few years back which made the million mile round trip worth it!!!
 

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No one can blame the two players - if they were surplus to requirements in the future they would find themselves on the dole. However, I wonder if they may have jumped a bit soon - there are a lot of risks in heading up the M40 - I get the feeling they are optimistic, but a little unsure. I wish them well.

Surely the events of this week and the players coming online etc. herald a new dawn in the role of the internet in supporting Brentford. Supporters seem to be able to know what is going on as soon as some of the players.
 

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Good luck guys. Sorry to see you go but fully understand the reasons why..

Never slagged you off Andy (honest), as you've been one of my favourite players at GP over the last couple of years.

Us left-footers have to stick together.

Now as you've played us twice, go and knock those Millwall bigheads off the top of the scorers league.
 

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Now as you've played us twice, go and knock those Millwall bigheads off the top of the scorers league.
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Good luck at Oxford, both of you, except against us, when I hope you both fall flat on your arses everytime the ball comes anywhere near you.

Thanks for the goals this season, Scotty - Cambridge definitely stands out - always thought you looked good at left back, Scotty, and some of Quinn's games in midfield this season were phenomenal.

Best of luck.
 

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I wish you both all the very best for the future and appreciate you coming on here to put us in the picture, a few people down at GP could learn a few things from you two.

Quinny, I think everyone knew you were never going to be a full back, you were made a victim of your own willingness to dig in for the good of the team, i'm just pleased that your last few games were played in the middle where you complimented Evo and Rowly superbly, and those who gave you stick could see for themselves what a good player you really are.

Scotty, you will be missed enourmously, I hope you score the goals to keep Oxford up because you are too good for Div 3, if it's any consolation, the woman next to me on the New Road was one of your biggest critics when you first joined, and just a couple of weeks ago she turned and told me she couldn't believe the turnaround in your form and commitment. take it as a compliment, because in 3 season's i've heard about 2 positive comments about anybody from her.

All the best lads, and we know you're both BRENTFORD TIL YOU DIE!
 

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It looks like we have picked up two decent and committed players who have the respect of true supporters. These are the sort of players that we've been crying out for at Oxford and I must say on Saturdays evidence you've lost two gems. Both looked very impressive and Scotty looked as if he and Gray had been playing together for ages. Good luck for the rest of the season. Your loss is our gain and I think you've lost out financially. I hope we can meet in the same division next year and with these guys we stand a chance of beating the drop.
 

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quinny for me a model pro and andy well top bloke, all that unfair stick.but he will remain for me the thinnest player ever to don a red and white shirt
 

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Thanks for your efforts over the years and I wah you well at Oxford. From a personal point of view I am glad that you are both bettering yourselves whilst at the same time disappointed that our promotion winning team is being weakend.

Please dont be starangers to this board and Quinny get on teh Oxford equivilent a lot a quicker (Players contributions are appreciated so much).

Don't be strangers... remember we alays predict the results, add your views to the current Stoke thread.

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good luck andy-and quinny to its terrible of ron not to offer you a new contract.if we do manage to get a play off spot then it would of beenyour goals that got us there.
 
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