Now the dust has settled it's time to forgive

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Now the dust has settled it's time to forgive

I think trotta has learnt from the experience sometimes the learning experience is difficult for those around but hey it's time to forgive and move on... I will one will be giving the lad a cheer when he enters the playing arena... Come on fellow bees we are supposed to be a tight knit club fans and players together what better way to de strategy this than by vocally forgiving trotta... I am sure the other players will as benefit from the forgiveness lift
 

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I agree - we are still in this and he is going to feature at some point in the next two games. It is a disservice to all the other players to do anything except get behind him.
 

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Agree entirely
 

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He has to earn my forgiveness. Most of the time he has played for us he's walked round like a half arsed league one Berbatov without the goals and assists most of the time. If he puts in a shift in the next couple of games and shows that he wants to make up for his mistake, then I may consider forgiving him. Unlikely to happen though. And if he comes back his same half arsed self and plays in the next 2 games at least the players know they can get away with murder under Uwe!
 

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Marcello....woooah, Marcello woooah

All is forgiven (though sadly never forgotten) now get yourself out on that Swindon pitch and grab us the winning goal to make up for it!
 

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He was so close to being a hero, he was the obvious best choice at the time (as I've already posted - our last pen scorer, fresh legs, confident, desire to take it). He also kept us in the running with an incredible individual goal vs Hartlepool and two superb goals vs Chelsea (one unfairly disallowed). My first reaction was to villify him given the heart-break and anger at the time but now it's all about regrouping and finishing off the job they've spent all season aiming for. Lets all get behind Trotta as he still has a role to play and behind our superb albeit somewhat inexperienced side. Come on you Bees! Come on you Bees fans!!
 

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Adam said:
He has to earn my forgiveness. Most of the time he has played for us he's walked round like a half arsed league one Berbatov without the goals and assists most of the time. If he puts in a shift in the next couple of games and shows that he wants to make up for his mistake, then I may consider forgiving him. Unlikely to happen though. And if he comes back his same half arsed self and plays in the next 2 games at least the players know they can get away with murder under Uwe!
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I won't boo him though, not a chance. He will still have my full backing while on the pitch.
 

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He'll have to earn my forgiveness. Will support all our players through the play offs. But, if we lose and he strolls around the pitch scratching his arse like he can do, then i reserve the right to hound him for the rest of his days..............
 

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Hasn't he gone back yet?

He can f**k right off !!!
 

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Whatever your opinion on Saturday's events, we need to get behind the team - everyone including Trotta. Singling him out for abuse would be counter productive and impact the team as a whole. Trust in Uwe and the management team to sort the situation out internally.

If you really can't bring yourself to cheer him then fine, but for the sake of the team don't boo. Contain your frustration for Trotta until after we've picked up the Play off trophy at Wembley
 

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its not missing the pen, its going against your captain, manager and team mates, I cannot forgive that. I do not want to see him in a Brentford shirt again. I know that sounds bad but that is how I feel at present, still very upset.
 

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Awaysocks said:
its not missing the pen, its going against your captain, manager and team mates, I cannot forgive that. I do not want to see him in a Brentford shirt again. I know that sounds bad but that is how I feel at present, still very upset.
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Absolutely bang on !! We will not achieve anything without discipline and respect throughout the team.

I would never boo a player in red and white. Having said that I am unable to make any of the play off dates.
 

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I despair at the constant negativity in the majority of GPG posts.
 

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I suppose that sounded a bit negative but it's time to rally ourselves and rally and get behind the troops.!
 

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Adam said:
He has to earn my forgiveness. Most of the time he has played for us he's walked round like a half arsed league one Berbatov without the goals and assists most of the time. If he puts in a shift in the next couple of games and shows that he wants to make up for his mistake, then I may consider forgiving him. Unlikely to happen though. And if he comes back his same half arsed self and plays in the next 2 games at least the players know they can get away with murder under Uwe!
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It would help if he is a "team player". From what I've seen he isn't and BWP is. If he scores againnst Swindon, and then the winner at Wembley he may rebuild a few bridges.
 

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Hold on hold on did clayton not miss against Crawley a few weeks ago after uwe ordered him that he never wanted him near a penalty again... Don't remember a who ha about discipline then why because we won... Let's get things into perspective!! At least he hit the dam thing and didn't dribble it into the arms of the keeper...


All acts of I'll discipline in the heat of the moment deserve abuse from us fans??
 

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he will learn from it..who cares he cost us big-time.....this forum represents a small percentage of our fans.he will be booed and whistled no doubt about it
 

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Marcello wooooaaaahhh marcello wooooaaaahhh
He came from Italy,he missed the penalty

Can't see that chant catching on, but time to forgive,forget and move on.

Trotta is the main scapegoat but if BWP hadn't have hit the post, Harlee had have headed that corner in or JD had not have missed a sitter we would be a championship team!

I beelieve that we are still capable of winning the play-offs and avenging all of the past failures!
 

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hanworthbee said:
he will learn from it..who cares he cost us big-time.....this forum represents a small percentage of our fans.he will be booed and whistled no doubt about it
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I certainly hope not. Although it was unforgiveable what he did he still has the ability to redeem himself and score the winning goal in the final. He must be feeling like sh*t today and we need everyone behind every player that dons the red and white.
 

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R141 said:
I would never boo a player in red and white. Having said that I am unable to make any of the play off dates.
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Had a brief chat with him last night and told him to forget it and score the winner at Wembley. He simply said 'thank you'. I must admit I felt sorry for him, he looked like he could burst into tears at any moment. Last night really brought home how young he - and indeed most of the players - are. I know they're professionals, I know they're very fortunate to earn great money for a a job most would kill for but the end of the day they're kids and and have an incredible amount of pressure on their shoulders. If anyone has ever seen the brilliant American football film Friday Night Lights, there are some definite parallels to be drawn. I was incredibly proud last night watching Simon Moore shake everybody's hand, introduce himself and ask how they were as people filed into the ballroom. No one had asked him to do it but he did it anyway. Adam Forshaw took time going from table to table to chat to guests. Again, he wasn't asked to, he just did it. To do that after what they'd been through 24 hours earlier was incredible. I asked myself if I would've conducted myself so well when I was their age and the answer was a definite no.

They are young lads, Trotta included. He has scored some crucial goals and hopefully he'll score one or two more and make himself a hero but that won't happen if he's villified. It's abig ask to forgive and forget in such a short space of time but his teammates will and the fans have to as well.
 

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Bizzy Bee said:
It would help if he is a "team player". From what I've seen he isn't and BWP is. If he scores againnst Swindon, and then the winner at Wembley he may rebuild a few bridges.
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Exactly. However I wonder if someone like Sir Alex was his manager if he would be given a second chance like Uwe is more than likely going to give him.
 

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Can't forgive him and certainly can't forget, having said that I won't boo him as that would be counter productive.

God help him if he comes back to GP with another team.
 

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TW3Bee said:
God help him if he comes back to GP with another team.
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Although coming back with his current employer in a league fixture might be quite amusing...
 

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Awaysocks said:
its not missing the pen, its going against your captain, manager and team mates, I cannot forgive that. I do not want to see him in a Brentford shirt again. I know that sounds bad but that is how I feel at present, still very upset.
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If he stays with us I won't boo him but for him to earn forgiveness he needs to score within seconds of taking to the pitch and as we parade the Play off trophy around Wembley I expect a Tees shirt emblazoned with " Sorry Bees, I hate Fulham". Then I'll consider forgiving but one thing is for sure I will never forget April 27th 2013
 

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Awaysocks said:
its not missing the pen, its going against your captain, manager and team mates, I cannot forgive that. I do not want to see him in a Brentford shirt again. I know that sounds bad but that is how I feel at present, still very upset.
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Absolutely. He must publically apologise or be sacked - if you can sack an on loan player, I don't know. If I was Rosler I would do my very best to make sure his card is marked in the future too. **** off back to Fulham!
 
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I might have missed it, but has he given a public apology (considering all the pain and cost he has caused) and an explanation of why he went against orders? I think it would help build some bridges with elements of the fans to hear his side of things and have a bit of understanding of his side of things.
 

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Even if he scored, he took that opportunity away from o'Connor.
 

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randello said:
I might have missed it, but has he given a public apology (considering all the pain and cost he has caused) and an explanation of why he went against orders? I think it would help build some bridges with elements of the fans to hear his side of things and have a bit of understanding of his side of things.
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If he does that I would be willing to try and forgive
 

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randello said:
I might have missed it, but has he given a public apology (considering all the pain and cost he has caused) and an explanation of why he went against orders? I think it would help build some bridges with elements of the fans to hear his side of things and have a bit of understanding of his side of things.
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No manager is going to saddle a young loanee with the responsibility for Saturday's events by making him issue a public apology and nor should he. I've no doubt it's been dealt with internally, in the proper way. It's up to the fans to move on from this and concentrate on helping the Team consign the penalty miss to just another talking point of the season we finally won at Wembley.
 

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After going against the Captain, team and Manager
and considering he is actually from another club,
I don't think he'll play again for us.
 

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Owlsmoor_Bee said:
No manager is going to saddle a young loanee with the responsibility for Saturday's events by making him issue a public apology and nor should he. I've no doubt it's been dealt with internally, in the proper way. It's up to the fans to move on from this and concentrate on helping the Team consign the penalty miss to just another talking point of the season we finally won at Wembley.
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He's a big boy - he disobeyed orders of his manager, he has to answer.
 

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Bizzy Bee said:
It would help if he is a "team player". From what I've seen he isn't and BWP is. If he scores againnst Swindon, and then the winner at Wembley he may rebuild a few bridges.
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I think that this will fire Trotta up if crowd opens support him . He could be really dangerous in play offs then. I think BWP also supported the Trotta decision. Kevin just back from long lay off and playing centre half . Trotta proven goal score fresh legs and alread scored couple of penalties for us this season. Reality was very different unfortunately. It needed a cool head
 

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westwing said:
After going against the Captain, team and Manager
and considering he is actually from another club,
I don't think he'll play again for us.
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I think your wrong & that would hurt the reputation of our club as being a good place for young talent to shine. & it would also be poor management of a young talented player. IMO
 

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TuckerBee said:
I think your wrong & that would hurt the reputation of our club as being a good place for young talent to shine. & it would also be poor management of a young talented player. IMO
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FFS????

I'll tell you what poor management is....
 

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Ghost said:
He's a big boy - he disobeyed orders of his manager, he has to answer.
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To the Manager and his team mates, yes, but not to us he doesn't.
 

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After the way this nutty season has gone he wll probably go and score the winner that takes us up......
 

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Travel Tavern Bee said:
After the way this nutty season has gone he wll probably go and score the winner that takes us up......
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Nothing would surprise me anymore, I have visions of losing out on pens after a 3-3 draw vs Sheff Utd at Wembley.....................having been 3-0 up from a Trotta hat trick. Not funny but think negative and I won't be too upset.
 

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Owlsmoor_Bee said:
To the Manager and his team mates, yes, but not to us he doesn't.
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After the play offs, whether we go up or not ..I would at least like him to give his side of it otherwise I will never forgive.
 

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hanworthbee said:
he will learn from it..who cares he cost us big-time.....this forum represents a small percentage of our fans.he will be booed and whistled no doubt about it
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And will you be one of those booing and whistling then.

Tell you what if Trotta does get on the pitch in the play off's and you think giving him stick will help our cause in the slightest you and anyone else who thinks it will help go right on ahead.
 

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Guildford Bee said:
Had a brief chat with him last night and told him to forget it and score the winner at Wembley. He simply said 'thank you'. I must admit I felt sorry for him, he looked like he could burst into tears at any moment. Last night really brought home how young he - and indeed most of the players - are. I know they're professionals, I know they're very fortunate to earn great money for a a job most would kill for but the end of the day they're kids and and have an incredible amount of pressure on their shoulders. If anyone has ever seen the brilliant American football film Friday Night Lights, there are some definite parallels to be drawn. I was incredibly proud last night watching Simon Moore shake everybody's hand, introduce himself and ask how they were as people filed into the ballroom. No one had asked him to do it but he did it anyway. Adam Forshaw took time going from table to table to chat to guests. Again, he wasn't asked to, he just did it. To do that after what they'd been through 24 hours earlier was incredible. I asked myself if I would've conducted myself so well when I was their age and the answer was a definite no.

They are young lads, Trotta included. He has scored some crucial goals and hopefully he'll score one or two more and make himself a hero but that won't happen if he's villified. It's abig ask to forgive and forget in such a short space of time but his teammates will and the fans have to as well.
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Great post! You put it all into perspective......still feel crap though....
 

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Trotta has joined the ranks of Rowlands et al.
He's not brentford never should be ever again I for one can never forgive him
 

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Really, crikey, there are some strange ways of dealing with things, almost like he missed on purpose
 

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maddogging said:
Really, crikey, there are some strange ways of dealing with things, almost like he missed on purpose
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It's not the miss itself , it's the circumstances. If Kev had missed it would be different.
 

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I don't blame Trotta, I was more than happy for him to take it as the lazy and arrogant twonk has looked composed with his previous ones, as it turns out he was a naughty boy but IMO was the chap to take it, we're sh*t at pens and he was 100% until that moment.
I blame Uwe for messing up a season, all those crap selections and negative stuff at the start of the season that I was told to forget coupled with the mad sides at Stevenage, Hartlepool and others towards the end turned a top 2 side (IMO) into one that has the POs to deal with.
 
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After talking to O'Connor yesterday it will take him a very long time to forget. He is kinda forced to forgive, but I didn't see him anywhere near Trotta all night.
As for me, I coulden't get myself to ask for Trotta's autograph. Just coulden't.. Because what has been said before (going against manager + long serving captain, ego, etc etc.. not only because he missed the penalty).
 
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