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A letter to Uwe

Dear Uwe

I would like to thank you , the players and your coaching and medical team for bringing us a season of almost unbearable excitement and tension.

We have come a long way in a fairly short time and we met your preseason objective of reaching the end of season Playoffs.

What is more we possess a heady blend of youth and experience and our squad is probably the most technically gifted that I have ever seen at the club.

Players such as Donaldson, Logan, Dean, Moore, Forrester, Forshaw, Reeves and Dallas are wonderfully talented and can only improve and I know that there are many more coming through the Academy.

Some of the loan signings were also inspired and we saw some very gifted players grace Griffin Park.

We try and play the right way and the team is well drilled and tactically flexible.

It made me proud to see how many times we came back from the dead and won points with late goals - we certainly never know when we are beaten!

The were so many memorable games and performances and the matches against Chelsea, Swindon, Sheffield United, Portsmouth and Southend will live long in the memory.

Yet for all this positivity this note has to be tinged with frustration given that promotion slipped through our fingers.

Lets not rehash the Doncaster and Yeovil scenarios yet again, what is more important is what we can learn from them and the season as a whole and what we need to do to ensure that we get over the line next season.

Given your attention to detail and thoroughness I am sure that you already have your own mental checklist of potential improvements but in no particular order I would be grateful if you would take note of the following points which are made in all good faith and in a spirit of positivity and gratitude for everything that we have so far achieved.

The most telling statistics were the number of matches we won by two goals or more - 3 as well as the number of games that we drew away from home - 10.

This implies that for all our possession and superiority we found it extremely hard to put teams away and I am hard pressed to remember any or many comfortable victories. To a degree this is testament to the overall strength of the division, our powers of recovery, determination to keep going until the final whistle and never say die attitude but it also makes me wonder about our approach.

Tactically we were very flexible and comfortable with a variety of formations, 442, 433, 451, 4231, 4141 to mention quite a few. Sometimes we used several of them in the same game.

To me this shows our strengths and weaknesses. Many times you changed things around and made key substitutions that made the difference between losing and winning- remember Walsall,away, MK Dons and Swindon at home and away in the League to name but a few.

It is crucial to know who and what we are playing against and their strengths but can you consider letting them worry about us and set us up in a more positive attacking formation earlier in the games rather than always seeming to seek to draw their teeth first before we sought to do them damage.

I totally agree with the concept of ensuring you don't lose if you can't win but I feel that we were many times guilty of setting ourselves up not to lose rather than going out to dominate and win.

I do not expect us to go Gung Ho every game but I just feel that several of those away draws could have been turned into wins with a more positive approach.

Playing only one upfront with Donaldson pulled back into a deep right sided midfield role was also frustrating for us and left our sole striker isolated and made it hard to retain possession. This was highlighted in the first half on Sunday where Trotta was left,alone to combat two huge Yeovil behemoths a move doomed to failure.

Sometimes we have to vary things and go long rather than try to play our way through teams and maybe we were a bit predictable at times which seems strange given the number of formations we employed.

I have no problem with squad rotation in a season of around 60 games and note that you tried where possible to retain continuity within the back four. Our injury and fitness record bears testimony that you got it exactly right.

I also have no problem in keeping all 11 players back for opposition corners and the zonal defence worked well until when it really mattered with 3 goals conceded from corners in our last 2 games. This needs to be revisited .

As does the number of goals conceded from 20-35 yards. Some were screamers and unstoppable, others weren't. I only blame Moore for the MK Dons opener but we seemed slow and inefficient at closing players down and content to back off. Why?

Conversely how many goals or even attempts did we have from similar distances. Logan and Dean were happy to have a crack from outside the box as were Forrester and Saunders but our goal scoring record from midfield was poor with barely ten goals coming from Forshaw, Diagouraga, Douglas and Adeyemi with only one from outside the box.

This has to be addressed as we are sorely limiting our goalscoring options. Getting more players in the box would also result in our scoring more goals !

Can we sort out our penalty strategy please? With a conversion rate of around 50% allied to the repeated confusion as to who is actually taking the kick, we are simply shooting ourself in the foot.

You are such an organised person that our poor performance with penalties throughout the season as a whole simply beggars belief.

Maybe it would help if we had an obvious leader on the pitch, someone who leads by example and by sheer force of personality ensures that your instructions are carried out?

As the team grows up I expect us to manage games better and know when to slow things down and even stop the game where necessary, something Yeovil did so well to break up our momentum. This doesn't mean a license to cheat. We picked up several bookings for diving, some unjustified but others were not. Cut it out please.

As well as Dean and Craig performed it has to be said that 2 of the 3 promoted sides each had a pair of beasts playing at centre half and we struggled against them. Legge wasn't good enough on the ground to give us this option but I really think we need that option to help us dominate in both penalty areas. Burn was exceptional as he won everything and was never outpaced too.

Dean scored 4 goals all season and Craig none. Enough said!

I know that we are running the risk of losing some players but that is part of the way of life at this level but I am certain that we can bring in replacements who can do as well and change is inevitable but I really don't think that it will take much to get us out of this league and finish in the top 2.

It will take a slight change of approach from you and a greater confidence that as this squad matures they can be trusted to win games and start them on the front foot rather than concentrating on not conceding and giving the initiative to the opposition.

Our finishing is not clinical enough which I am sure is a common complaint at this and indeed probably every level and Clayton had a wonderful season and showed us just how good he is and he worked nonstop for the team but he needs better support and not just from the strikers.

Uwe this is not meant to be a long mantra of moans, more a recognition of just how good a job you have done and an acknowledgment that it really won't take too much to bring us the success we deserve.

I honestly feel that you are well on the way to becoming a true Brentford legend and I thank you for how proud you have made me feel of this wonderful club of ours but please take note of some of the points I have made and trust in our players more to take control of games and start on the front foot, they are more than good enough to take this division by storm.
 
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thanks for the suits, the highs, the ups, the downs.

UWE ROSLER'S BARMY ARMY!!!!!
 

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Nothing about not taking f@@@@m c@@ts on loan? :confused:
 

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Why did you sign that ejit from the nonce statue worshippers
 

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A simple 'not good enough! Sort it out Rosler!' Would suffice!
 

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Good luck with that NLB. Uwe doesn't like written correspondence although he will probably invite you to the training ground so you can explain the shortcomings you have identified to the players direct and get their feedback.

Don't disagree with any of that though although I would have added that we need players in the side who can head the ball so we make more of the hundreds of corners we get each season. I know that 50p Head Harlee scored a couple recently but we don't get on the end of nearly enough from set pieces.
 

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Sounds like the agenda for the next board meeting.

I've been wondering who might be a good candidate to replace Greg as Chairman!
 

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3rd place in his first full proper season.

and we've got some people moaning.

you lot don't know what you've got sometimes to be honest.
 

A letter to Uwe

3rd place in his first full proper season.

and we've got some people moaning.

you lot don't know what you've got sometimes to be honest.

Don't want to be picky but it was his 2nd season. He was appointed on 10th June 2011.

Don't see the problem with a bit of constructive criticism. You could just ignore the many shortcomings that meant the best team in the division (us) didn't go up or you could choose to discuss them.
 

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3rd place in his first full proper season.

and we've got some people moaning.

you lot don't know what you've got sometimes to be honest.

north london bee did his best to explain where uwe's gone wrong. he was only trying to help.
 

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I suspect NLB that everything you say is well known to Uwe.;) One thing Uwe has brought is consecutive years of improvement. We aren't the finished article and I expect that we will make progress with some of the areas you identified. I doubt we will sort them all but I think the key to next year is eliminating defensive errors. Not sure what you can do about failing to take chances other than finding a better finisher somewhere[ maybe Farid will provide]. Re defensive approach, I suspect that any manager will try and shut the shop away from home if the team is ahead or drawing. We just weren't that good at seeing out games but we are learning.Nice post :).
 

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A simple 'not good enough! Sort it out Rosler!' Would suffice!

Really ? 2 inches from automatic promotion . Harsh to call that not good enough mate IMHO.
 

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Really ? 2 inches from automatic promotion . Harsh to call that not good enough mate IMHO.

Nick, you saw the games mate, we had so many teams on the run in their own backyards, possession coming out of our ears but as pretty as we were we dropped points, we fecked it on the road if you throw in Stevenage and Carlisle who hadn't won in donks plus our record v the bottom 4. It's all been said but some think 3rd was an overachievement whereas after missing 4 league games all season I thought we blew it.
 

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Excellent work NLB. A very balanced and well thought out piece of polemic. Don't understand the opinion that it is impossible to offer a constructive critque of Uwe's time as manager whilst recognising the strides forward the club has made under his tenure.
 

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Nick, you saw the games mate, we had so many teams on the run in their own backyards, possession coming out of our ears but as pretty as we were we dropped points, we fecked it on the road if you throw in Stevenage and Carlisle who hadn't won in donks plus our record v the bottom 4. It's all been said but some think 3rd was an overachievement whereas after missing 4 league games all season I thought we blew it.

Having been fortunate enough to go to all the games this season I also think we blew it, the away games at Carlisle, Doncaster, Tranmere and even Yeovil early on all stand out as games that we were looking really comfortable but ending up either losing or drawing. Having said that not sure we underachieved, but cannot give you a solid argument why, its just my gut feeling that we werent quite good enough with the current squad but we are well on the road to getting there :) . (I can also think of games where we got out of jail - Preston away, Walsall away, Portsmouth at home) sure there were others in both categories but my memory is awful and they all merge into one!
 
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3rd place in his first full proper season.

and we've got some people moaning.

you lot don't know what you've got sometimes to be honest.

Or to put it another way, we know exactly what've we got/had and Uwe didn't utalise it properly, and now we have to rebuild again as the league will be a lot tougher next year.
 

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Or to put it another way, we know exactly what've we got/had and Uwe didn't utalise it properly, and now we have to rebuild again as the league will be a lot tougher next year.

As it stands we don't need to rebuild.

In all my time as a bees fan we have only gone north to the division above once. It is always tough.
 

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A good letter NLB, a bit long winded, but you do make some valid points.

Let us know if you get a reply.
 

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I think the only game he really screwed up was Stevenage away. I was in box with 7 stevo supporters one Bee and a couple of neutrals and when we were handed the team sheet I just said - we're screwed. And we were! I thought a very good letter from NLB. Hope he sent it.
 

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Really ? 2 inches from automatic promotion . Harsh to call that not good enough mate IMHO.

It should have been sorted long before the Doncaster game, mate. It's a season of negative tactics and concerns about the opposition (in a weak division) that did for us.

The business end of the season was a complete disaster.

That said, I did watch the whole of Sunday's game again on Sky. We played a lot better than I thought at the time. But, even Andy Hinchcliffe was confused why we only had one up top and Clayton out wide!
 

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Dear Uwe,
There are some people out there who think they can manage a football team better than just about anyone. I am sure you know where it went wrong. At least, if you don't then it will become obvious next season. I look forward to next season knowing that you wanted it as much as we did.
Regards,
The slightly tipsy oriental from the Big Red Ball
 

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Dear Uwe

I would like to thank you , the players and your coaching and medical team for bringing us a season of almost unbearable excitement and tension.

We have come a long way in a fairly short time and we met your preseason objective of reaching the end of season Playoffs.

What is more we possess a heady blend of youth and experience and our squad is probably the most technically gifted that I have ever seen at the club.

Players such as Donaldson, Logan, Dean, Moore, Forrester, Forshaw, Reeves and Dallas are wonderfully talented and can only improve and I know that there are many more coming through the Academy.

Some of the loan signings were also inspired and we saw some very gifted players grace Griffin Park.

We try and play the right way and the team is well drilled and tactically flexible.

It made me proud to see how many times we came back from the dead and won points with late goals - we certainly never know when we are beaten!

The were so many memorable games and performances and the matches against Chelsea, Swindon, Sheffield United, Portsmouth and Southend will live long in the memory.

Yet for all this positivity this note has to be tinged with frustration given that promotion slipped through our fingers.

Lets not rehash the Doncaster and Yeovil scenarios yet again, what is more important is what we can learn from them and the season as a whole and what we need to do to ensure that we get over the line next season.

Given your attention to detail and thoroughness I am sure that you already have your own mental checklist of potential improvements but in no particular order I would be grateful if you would take note of the following points which are made in all good faith and in a spirit of positivity and gratitude for everything that we have so far achieved.

The most telling statistics were the number of matches we won by two goals or more - 3 as well as the number of games that we drew away from home - 10.

This implies that for all our possession and superiority we found it extremely hard to put teams away and I am hard pressed to remember any or many comfortable victories. To a degree this is testament to the overall strength of the division, our powers of recovery, determination to keep going until the final whistle and never say die attitude but it also makes me wonder about our approach.

Tactically we were very flexible and comfortable with a variety of formations, 442, 433, 451, 4231, 4141 to mention quite a few. Sometimes we used several of them in the same game.

To me this shows our strengths and weaknesses. Many times you changed things around and made key substitutions that made the difference between losing and winning- remember Walsall,away, MK Dons and Swindon at home and away in the League to name but a few.

It is crucial to know who and what we are playing against and their strengths but can you consider letting them worry about us and set us up in a more positive attacking formation earlier in the games rather than always seeming to seek to draw their teeth first before we sought to do them damage.

I totally agree with the concept of ensuring you don't lose if you can't win but I feel that we were many times guilty of setting ourselves up not to lose rather than going out to dominate and win.

I do not expect us to go Gung Ho every game but I just feel that several of those away draws could have been turned into wins with a more positive approach.

Playing only one upfront with Donaldson pulled back into a deep right sided midfield role was also frustrating for us and left our sole striker isolated and made it hard to retain possession. This was highlighted in the first half on Sunday where Trotta was left,alone to combat two huge Yeovil behemoths a move doomed to failure.

Sometimes we have to vary things and go long rather than try to play our way through teams and maybe we were a bit predictable at times which seems strange given the number of formations we employed.

I have no problem with squad rotation in a season of around 60 games and note that you tried where possible to retain continuity within the back four. Our injury and fitness record bears testimony that you got it exactly right.

I also have no problem in keeping all 11 players back for opposition corners and the zonal defence worked well until when it really mattered with 3 goals conceded from corners in our last 2 games. This needs to be revisited .

As does the number of goals conceded from 20-35 yards. Some were screamers and unstoppable, others weren't. I only blame Moore for the MK Dons opener but we seemed slow and inefficient at closing players down and content to back off. Why?

Conversely how many goals or even attempts did we have from similar distances. Logan and Dean were happy to have a crack from outside the box as were Forrester and Saunders but our goal scoring record from midfield was poor with barely ten goals coming from Forshaw, Diagouraga, Douglas and Adeyemi with only one from outside the box.

This has to be addressed as we are sorely limiting our goalscoring options. Getting more players in the box would also result in our scoring more goals !

Can we sort out our penalty strategy please? With a conversion rate of around 50% allied to the repeated confusion as to who is actually taking the kick, we are simply shooting ourself in the foot.

You are such an organised person that our poor performance with penalties throughout the season as a whole simply beggars belief.

Maybe it would help if we had an obvious leader on the pitch, someone who leads by example and by sheer force of personality ensures that your instructions are carried out?

As the team grows up I expect us to manage games better and know when to slow things down and even stop the game where necessary, something Yeovil did so well to break up our momentum. This doesn't mean a license to cheat. We picked up several bookings for diving, some unjustified but others were not. Cut it out please.

As well as Dean and Craig performed it has to be said that 2 of the 3 promoted sides each had a pair of beasts playing at centre half and we struggled against them. Legge wasn't good enough on the ground to give us this option but I really think we need that option to help us dominate in both penalty areas. Burn was exceptional as he won everything and was never outpaced too.

Dean scored 4 goals all season and Craig none. Enough said!

I know that we are running the risk of losing some players but that is part of the way of life at this level but I am certain that we can bring in replacements who can do as well and change is inevitable but I really don't think that it will take much to get us out of this league and finish in the top 2.

It will take a slight change of approach from you and a greater confidence that as this squad matures they can be trusted to win games and start them on the front foot rather than concentrating on not conceding and giving the initiative to the opposition.

Our finishing is not clinical enough which I am sure is a common complaint at this and indeed probably every level and Clayton had a wonderful season and showed us just how good he is and he worked nonstop for the team but he needs better support and not just from the strikers.

Uwe this is not meant to be a long mantra of moans, more a recognition of just how good a job you have done and an acknowledgment that it really won't take too much to bring us the success we deserve.

I honestly feel that you are well on the way to becoming a true Brentford legend and I thank you for how proud you have made me feel of this wonderful club of ours but please take note of some of the points I have made and trust in our players more to take control of games and start on the front foot, they are more than good enough to take this division by storm.

Wow my thoughts exactly wish I could be quite so eloquent well done brilliantly put.
 

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3rd place in his first full proper season.

and we've got some people moaning.

you lot don't know what you've got sometimes to be honest.

lol

are you uwe's agent ???

if you dont go up you might as well be 19th as 3rd....3rd doesnt mean eck all now.....we had 2 great chances to get promotion and we bollardsed both of em.........if he stays, we have to go up next season or its time to bring someone else in to have a go ;)
 

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Some of those moaning that we were negative Sunday also have stated that we should start the game with the same team as we did against Swindon, which we did, sadly the team I believe were overawed by the occassion at the start.
Others wanting 4-4-2 have also recently stated that Clayton has scored more goals when playing wide. We played 4-3-3 that can also be a 4-5-1.
Fine margins dictate football matches. As much as we dropped points, I believe we lost the fewest in the league and so its not the losses that we should concern ourselves with as all the teams around us lost more, but turning just 2 of the draws into wins would have seen us over the line automatically and I can think of Hartlepool and Orient at home, which we should have been home and hosed in.
It really was fine margins either way that defined something that could have been another average season (think of our late goal tally) a very good season (think of our many penalty misses) Or what turned out a good season without that small fine margin in our favour turming it into a stunning one.
I understand those that saw many more away games than me, will have a slightly different view, but it is not possible to play well each and every week. This is a young side, with ability, but also flaws and maybe theri abilities did raise our expectations above where they really should have been.
 

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One important point that shouldn't be lost is that nearly everyone I know suggested that the draw at Hartlepool was just what the doctor ordered as it didn't offer us the draw v Donny to get up. This idea was rife as the worry was " You know what he'll do if we have the draw on offer!" I didn't get it then or now but I think it shows up something quite bad.
 

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Automatic promotion was lost during the season; Doncaster and Yeovil were additional chances which came when we were on another non-winning run. The inability to score when presented with opportunities is what cost us and I would willingly trade possession and "looking dangerous" for just scoring.

It's difficult to blame the management. With our new striker injured so early, we've had a succession of strikers who, on paper, should have done better and one who has done more than his fair share while, on paper, was less gifted. I'm sure this is front of mind with Uwe and, as I've noted elsewhere, we need to discover our own Madden. Let's hope we do.
 

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Dear Uwe

We have come a long way in a fairly short time and we met your preseason objective of reaching the end of season Playoffs.

That is the problem with the season in a nutshell.....we had modest, conservative objectives before pre season was even complete and ultimatley sold ourselves short. Those objectives seemed fair at the time but by the time we went to top of the table/undeafeated Tranmere in September it was clear objectives werent ambitious enough. I went to Tranmere thinking a point would be a great result, Tranny were stunningly woeful and a team that had a "skys the limit mentality" would have beaten them comfortably that day. Wer had a "lets not rock the boat, or dream to big attitude" We had to get the play offs and count our blessings, believing we were capable of more was greedy and impatient. I think we went through this season with the handbrake on tbh and that is what hurts most becuase this league is so sh*t.

After the Tranny game, where we seemed embarrassed and apologetic to be so comfortably in control of the divisions "top side" we should have revaluated our season objectives and aimed higher.....yes we have a young inexperienced side but there were good enough to give it a go. Pre season modest objectives should have been thrown out the window and the bar should have been raised. We werent brave enough.

Look at Yeovil, Bournemouth (when Howe came in), Stevenage last season, Blackpool under Holloway, Wigan in the Cup this year for teams that dont stifle their own potential...they didnt pigeon hole themselves into modest obvjectives like "a season of stability" etc or shackle themselves down and maintain the status quo. Im not suggesting we break the bank, expect we win every game, boo at half time if were not winning or sack Uwe if we have a dodgy month. All im asking is that we are open to the possibility of being the best and striving for that...dont settle for second best or squirm if some suggest we can do better. I think years of failure have left us all setttling for second best or always appreciating what we have got without being allowed to want more....perhaps now the whole club needs to dream bigger...there is no reason not to.
 

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One important point that shouldn't be lost is that nearly everyone I know suggested that the draw at Hartlepool was just what the doctor ordered as it didn't offer us the draw v Donny to get up. This idea was rife as the worry was " You know what he'll do if we have the draw on offer!" I didn't get it then or now but I think it shows up something quite bad.

I was one who wasn't overly 'fussed' about drawing at Hartlepool. For me it meant that it made Uwe's team talk before Doncaster relatively simple.........he and the players knew what they had to do. Needing a draw against Donny would maybe have led to a... 'do we hold on to what we start with?'........ state of mind and our concern would likely have been not to concede rather than knowing we had to score. I'd prefer to have to go for the win and I thought you had just spent a whole season on here espousing the same philosophy.
Having said that and having been at Hartlepool then if we had needed to win there to go up we could and would have done in my view and knowing that a draw was enough to get us into the final Saturday still with everything to play for probably affected the players approach to the game which with the best will in the world is not always that of the manager at any level of football. It comes back to the discussion on here post Hartlepool re whether the players knew the other results and whether a draw kept us in the chase. I asked Mark Warburton at Hartlepool and he told me they did.
 
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I hope Uwe doesn't see that letter. A couple of inches from automatic promotion for a guy who played over 600 professional games, played for his country and has managed for 9 years is getting advice on how do his job by fans? Do me a favour! Yes we lost games because of poor tactical decisions at times, but I have seen plenty of times over the years were the likes of Man U, Chelsea, Man City etc managers have done the same, I wonder if SAF got letters moaning about it?! I'm guessing no. Let the guy do his job, and when he needs advice I am sure he will ask someone who is actually in a position to give it.

Do you honestly think he watches his team waste set pieces and thinks it is okay? Of course not and he obviously tries to address the problem. Craig is not great in the air and Dean struggles to direct his headers, but the truth remains they are both great defenders. Would you prefer we got two average defenders in but who are more of a threat from set pieces?
 

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NLB.........is this an 'open letter' to Uwe in the hope/expectation that someone will show it to him or have you actually delivered it? Uwe is hugely intelligent and articulate but I can assure you that he really doesn't respond at length to emails and letters. He values and reads them but he's far more likely to pick up the phone if he has a contact number for you. It's just that I'm not sure whether this is a GPG discussion exercise or was actually sent to draw a response from Uwe for publication on here. The comments would form the basis of an interesting Fans Forum debate.
 

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Maybe you can look at a different way, in that we lucky to have been in 3rd position on the final game of the season ?............. As others have said we did blow many good opportunities for 3 points, but on the flip side we also had a few " get out of jail" times as well.

I think sending letters to Uwe may make the author feel better but I doubt it will change Uwe's philosophy on how to set up a football team. I am another of those who have been unfortunate enough to have been at all the BIG 6 defeats and was surprised to feel an almost acceptance on the train home on Sunday. I watched it again on tele and saw how well we can play and also the weaknesses we showed when we had at least 3 very good chances to equalise, so I have come to the conclusion that overall we just weren't quite good enough.
 

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I also have no problem in keeping all 11 players back for opposition corners and the zonal defence worked well until when it really mattered with 3 goals conceded from corners in our last 2 games. This needs to be revisited .

Are you saying we need to revisit it and address a 'problem'? Or do you simply mean it needs to be revisited as in same again next season please? If it's the former, which is how it sounds, then that is unbelievable.

We conceded a couple of goals all season from set pieces and then we get 3 in the last couple of games and we need to revisit it? lol I guarantee you if we man marked from corners and we had conceded 7 or 8 goals from set pieces this season no one would even mention it! The man can do right for doing wrong!
 

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This was a cathartic offloading exercise for me which I needed after the traumas of Doncaster and Sunday and I have no intention of sending it to Uwe as I am sure it would appear to be the bleeding obvious to him as he is more than aware of the many things we did well as well as where we fell short. I just hope that things change slightly as that is all we need. I hope it does not come over as carping as I admire Uwe and what he has brought to the club and am very proud of his achievements.

Progress is all about evolution and we just need a little bit more which I fervently believe is forthcoming next season.
 

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Having said all of what I've said I'm still quite perky about it all, I have felt dead at previous losses in POs, the only times I thought we blew it were MA's 2nd season and this one, I sort of felt Coppell's lot may have done it but I think that bad egg Noades fecked it that season by simply breathing and being in the background. I thought the pen loss to Huddersfield was just pure bad luck and the rest of them were ones we might have won but we were really happy to be part of them and still have a chance. MA's 2nd season and this one felt like we shouldn't be in them, they were 2nd prize in the raffle for me.
 

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My letter to Uwe;

Hard luck mate. You did a pretty dam good job, and so did most of the lads.
Some of the footie was super, and we certainly had a few great moments, for which we very much thank you.
We wish you well with your efforts to build on that, for next season, and to strengthen and rectify, where needed..
We will be there for you all, again , and we hope fate is just that bit kinder to us .
Good luck and.. Up the Bees!
 

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Dear Uwe,

Thank you for a lovely season but next year can I have a happy ending - the only analogy I can think of is - If it was Christmas, it kind of feels that I was allowed to look at the present I was getting but in the end it didn't turn up. Please try and keep all the youngsters, get Clayton a new friend up front and see if you can find one of those lads a couple of years older we can look up to, ideally big, hard, scary and really good at football that referees respect who will make sure we don't get bullied. (Imagine VFTB and the New road - well one of them on the pitch)

Oh, I hope you enjoyed it and want to do it again with us next year

Sean (aged 50 and a bit)
 

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My letter to Uwe;

Hard luck mate. You did a pretty dam good job, and so did most of the lads.
Some of the footie was super, and we certainly had a few great moments, for which we very much thank you.
We wish you well with your efforts to build on that, for next season, and to strengthen and rectify, where needed..
We will be there for you all, again , and we hope fate is just that bit kinder to us .
Good luck and.. Up the Bees!

Looks like we were typing similar at the same time mate
 

A letter to Uwe

A number of us here on the GPG have supported Brentford that long, that anything other than a relegation battle is viewed as a good season. So, thus to finish 3rd, even with all that that has entailed, is regarded as nirvana. But as NLB has indicated, and i know i am going to get some serious flak for this, but i think that we under-achieved this year. We had the players to get clear automatic promotion, but some curious tactics employed in too many games saw us chuck away points needlessly. Uwe has indeed done well, but we did have the potential to get promoted, and that should have happened.
 

A letter to Uwe

lol

if you dont go up you might as well be 19th as 3rd....)

I know we are all gutted mate , but thats just silly. Being 19th would mean a miserable season travelling home after loss after loss, the season was excellent this year. Only ever expected to lose the Chelsea games and have rarely if ever felt like that before.
 

A letter to Uwe

Of course we should have tried harder to win at Hartlepool. Remember a 1 goal defeat was no worse than a draw for us. We didn't want to lose by 2 but was that worth being so defensive.
Brilliant and comprehensive post by North London....only thing I would add is that we need to work on getting more possession from our own throw ins.
 

A letter to Uwe

i think uwe knows most of the points made and i believe he had to be disciplined with this side as of its age range and lack of a full seasons worth of competitive football in respects to allowing the squad to plan to open and allowing them to make tactical decisions i think he has done a superv job especially with regards to player improvement as the like of dean dave and donaldson and moore in particular have developed into some of the best players in this league i think also that ur right in the sense that sometimes the formations for the start of games has been negative however if we are loseing or needed points im delighted to say that tactically ive seen him play 4 3 3 later in these matches and be positive the point that i feel is most valid is the heading point as i feel that we do not win enough second and third balls due to the middle of the park sitting deep and also from corner and dead ball situations however this team is very young and has made me proud this year and i strongly believe its due to the man at the helm
 

A letter to Uwe

A number of us here on the GPG have supported Brentford that long, that anything other than a relegation battle is viewed as a good season. So, thus to finish 3rd, even with all that that has entailed, is regarded as nirvana. But as NLB has indicated, and i know i am going to get some serious flak for this, but i think that we under-achieved this year. We had the players to get clear automatic promotion, but some curious tactics employed in too many games saw us chuck away points needlessly. Uwe has indeed done well, but we did have the potential to get promoted, and that should have happened.

You said Uwe has done well, but that we under-achieved.
The two don't really go together, do they?
 

A letter to Uwe

I agree with NLB it was a tremendous season and if you look at alex ferguson and arsene wenger they send out their teams with the mentality
that we will play our way you worry.Why wait till half time im not advocating wreckless attack and if it looks shaky consolidate but have a go we can nearly
all live with that..but i expect to be told otherwise...lollol
 

A letter to Uwe

lol

are you uwe's agent ???

if you dont go up you might as well be 19th as 3rd....3rd doesnt mean eck all now.....we had 2 great chances to get promotion and we bollardsed both of em.........if he stays, we have to go up next season or its time to bring someone else in to have a go ;)

:rolleyes: This is a bit silly mate.

I agree, very silly.
Uwe Rosler, massive improvement this season, on last.
He has learnt a lot, brought in better players, improved the playing style, given us a fantastic season of mainly highs.
We finished 3rd and inches from the Championship - the best placing for over 20 years for a Brentford side.
Why anyone would want him to leave is beyond me. Unless they are this new type of impatient chelsea / armchair / sky TV fan...
Obviously no one has the balls to actually type "UWE OUT" on the GPG for fear of ridicule, but lets hope Uwe stays for continuity and growth of the club and success next season.

If he leaves, that's a massive step back and will be the start of another 2 year re-building effort by the next guy.....

This season has been a success. Not the ultimate success, but still a leap forward from 2010
 
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