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DJ: Good business threads (merged) - inc Greenholme's rant

Lets look at a balance sheet after yesterday’s events.

On the positive side:
* We have got half a million quid for a player we paid £5,000 for barely six months ago. Not a bad bit of business. (and yes I do know we have to give Yeading a bit)
* Steve Bruce has paid out half a million quid for a player two divisions below who has only been a regular starter for about 6 weeks… Good luck DJ, really wish you well, but you might just be the nail in Bruce’s coffin.
* Sam – bless his cottons – has decided that he will be better off with Brentford than Saints. Sam is fully entitled to look to his own future and nobody can deny him this, the fact the he chose BFC over Soton can only be good.
* We have Callum Willcock. By all accounts, a big, bruising lower division fighter – just what you need to get out of the lower half of the league. Well done MA!
* Swansea lost at home last night!
* QPR lost at home last night!!


Negatives:
* DJ’s undoubted ability. But we do have other good players, and he has only been scoring regularly for a few weeks. Players go off the boil as well.
* PR value, a bit. DJ big news and going to pull in maybe a good 1,000-1,500 floaters, and now not. A nuisance, but a week is a long time in football, as they say. Let Willcock score 2 against Walsall and he will be the new DJ, and all will be well. We are, after all, a rather fickle bunch!!

All in all, we still have a good chance against Charlton, and we should still at the very least be in the play offs. You Bees!!
 

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longdistancebee said:
Lets look at a balance sheet after yesterday’s events.

On the positive side:
* We have got half a million quid for a player we paid £5,000 for barely six months ago. Not a bad bit of business. (and yes I do know we have to give Yeading a bit)!!
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totally agree, gutted, but the best bit of business this club has ever done as long as we have not allowed ourselves to get tucked up again.

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* Steve Bruce has paid out half a million quid for a player two divisions below who has only been a regular starter for about 6 weeks… Good luck DJ, really wish you well, but you might just be the nail in Bruce’s coffin.)!!
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I have faith in his ability, I doubt this will be a nail in the coffin. IMO I think dj is worth 4-6M when compared to some of the foreign dross that these prem side squander mega bucks on. They spend 5M on a player who sits on the bench for 2 years then skulks off back home on a free a few years later. I am still amazed that they coughed up as much as they did, usually we accept 100K for our best players paid in 20 year installments dependent on winning the world cup!

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* Sam – bless his cottons – has decided that he will be better off with Brentford than Saints. Sam is fully entitled to look to his own future and nobody can deny him this, the fact the he chose BFC over Soton can only be good.
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delighted and stunned!, particularly as sam is no spring chicken, maybe he knows the premiership awaits rather than a **** poor champ side heading nowhere this season. Good man!


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* We have Callum Willcock. By all accounts, a big, bruising lower division fighter – just what you need to get out of the lower half of the league. Well done MA!
* Swansea lost at home last night!
* QPR lost at home last night!!
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All good news.


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Negatives:
* DJ’s undoubted ability. But we do have other good players, and he has only been scoring regularly for a few weeks. Players go off the boil as well.
* PR value, a bit. DJ big news and going to pull in maybe a good 1,000-1,500 floaters, and now not. All in all, we still have a good chance against Charlton, and we should still at the very least be in the play offs. You Bees!!
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Can't help feeling that dj left before we got a chance to really see what he could do for us, before we got a chance to show off to other clubs what we had found and before we saw the best of him. In 6 months time bruce will get all the plaudits about what a great manager and talent spotter he is!

I doubt we would suddenly have got 1500 extra people through the turnstiles after last weeks press to be honest!

Also Danny murphy has joined spurs and he was their best player pre season!
 

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The sale of DJ was excellent for the clubs survival and recovery plans, it buys some breathing space for us, don't forget we struggled to pay the wages a couple of months back. DJ is in the middle of a great run at the moment. The club has cashed in on his high profile in the media. MA has invested a disproportionate amount of time developing DJ into what he is now. It is for this reason only that DJ is worth a potential £1m. He was able to tap into the talent that DJ has, good coaches can do this, but not all players will respond.

With debts of £9m and the chance to see £5k turn into £500k/£1m in 6 months you can't turn it down. How much would he be worth if he stopped scoring for a month.

Don't you think that it frustrates MA to see all his hard work go out of the door and especially as he probably realises that DJ won't get the same attention at Birmingham. Is Steve Bruce a better coach? I don't think so.

My only worry in the whole thing is that the other £500k is due after say 50 appearance or so many goals. I am not sure that we will see that money as I am not sure Bruce can tap into DJ's talent in the same way MA did.
 

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His sale was an excellent return on the intial investment.It wasnt good business .Will he be in Brumscums squad at Liverpool tonight ? After talking to a Reading fan who witnessed Heskey on Sat,Id put DJ in the starting 11
 

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The sale was very very bad business.
We had a team buzzing and looking forward to taking charlton on and beating them and that is worth a million at least million by getting through, now with the DJ gone the confidence of the team will go for that game and we have not just lost a player we have lost a potential 500k on getting to the 5th rd and lost at least a new 1000 fans and maybe lost our promotion hopes.
I will always be a bees fan but when will the day come when we will say no to selling our best assets.

Same old Brentford taking the ****. (out of there own fans)
 

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Yes good business...... but disappointed......................
 

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Also, as an aside, as has i think has been mentioned elsewhere, what if DJ got injured next game? Maybe a bit too hypothetical i admit, but how much would Rhodes be worth right now if he had a season and a half behind him? No, i think we cashed in on our investment at the right time. The value of your shares may go down as well as up.....
 

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I would like this thread to be left on its own and not combined with the others as its something I feel really strongly about.

I am devestated that DJ has left the club.

I never thought I would stick up for the Club but what the hell do you expect them to do?

A player who has turned out 20 times and cost £5,000 has been sold for a profit of £400,000 minimum and could be as much as £700,000??

We are £9 million in debt, and people are saying that they aren't coming anymore, they are sending season tickets back, and other sh*te?

Supporting a 'little' club is like this..get real.

It's a situation that however bad for the team it is inevitable and crucial for any chance of long time survival.

I am not being dis-loyal to my fellow fans but if before Saturday we could have got £300,000 for him and kept Sodjie we would have taken it.

As for the bloke who said to me I was talking out of my arse and if we had kept him until the end of the season we would have got £5million for him...Dream on mate! Who pays that sort of money for players in our divisions and in any case why take the gamble that hes going to stay that good.

Martin said to me last night that how can you keep a player like that when he knows of offers and there are agents crawling around the place?

For Dudley, theres an offer for you to play at Chelsea and Old Trafford next week, btw you'll be earning £5 k a week..or do you want to travel to Milton Keynes and hold onto £700 a week with the Bees??
 
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Bottom line is that DJ wanted to play Premiership football and media attention he got from Saturdays game put him 'up in lights' in the shop window, for some manager to come along. The reason it's good business is that MA has plugged the gap right away with Callum Willock and I'm pretty sure he will work his magic again!!! PMA
 

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I think the majority of people are agreeing with you now... at the time everyone is ****ed of, typical brentford etc etc kneejerk reactions, and it is fair enough...only a bufoon :eek: can really say its bad business.. a potential 150times our outlay for a player who has only been starting for a couple of months...

I would be interested to see if their is anyone who is still really really ****ed off now they have slept on it... Its not like we didn't start the season well without him either :sorted:
 

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Agreed, I was going mental over losing Sam.
Losing DJ is massive but losing them both would have been suicidal.
We have/had goals coming from many areas and CW was bought to hopefully help with this, losing Sam would IMHO mean't goals from all over the place from the opposition. Turner and Sodje compliment one another very well and they can be the key to promotion.:sorted:

Promotion is still on.
 

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So, what are you doing Saturday NB? :wave:
 

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Jimbee said:
So, what are you doing Saturday NB? :wave:
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Buying you a pint for my "pathetic" tantrum mate.:wave:
I'm serious on that one.:sorted:

Can you get me 3 tickets for Charlton please.;)
 

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As you asked nicely........ :yes:
 

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A few mates of mine sent some hysterical emails to me about the whole saga yesterday afternoon but I could not see the problem. I’m actually quite chuffed with the DJ deal – 500k upfront plus a further 500k on appearances etc for just 20 odd appearance and a 5k outlay. That’s more than we got for Dean Holdsworth and we paid a hefty fee for him in the first place.

Quite frankly if we had sold Sam for that kind of fee I would not have been disappointed. Mousinho will turn out to be a very good centre back.

We need the money. Onwards and upwards.
 

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Greenholme Bee said:
I am devestated that DJ has left the club.

We are £9 million in debt, and people are saying that they aren't coming anymore, they are sending season tickets back, and other sh*te?

Supporting a 'little' club is like this..get real.

It's a situation that however bad for the team it is inevitable and crucial for any chance of long time survival.

I am not being dis-loyal to my fellow fans but if before Saturday we could have got £300,000 for him and kept Sodjie we would have taken it.
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Agree - though I think I'd rather have lost Sodje and kept DJ: I think it's easier to find good centrebacks than 20-goal a season players (Owusu excepted)
 

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Thats Better..we are all chilling...

Don't forget as Greg Dyke said..' Players, Manager, chairman, all come and go..The fans can't go anywhere else..'

We are Bees..
 

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We have won several games without DJ this season. Without Sodje, we're a shambles.
 

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Gutted that he's left, but it has to be good business for a club in so much debt. Were it not for the debt, I'm pretty sure that this deal would not even have been discussed.

Also, the fact that our FA Cup game is not being televised meant that we couldn't really turn down the offer - the TV companies have got a lot to answer for, IMO.

P.S. Can one of the mods put a poll on here perchance? Cheers:sorted:
 

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It would have been inappropriate to deny DJ his chance, but I'm not convinced it's good business (unless one means by that the comparison with what he cost us). I think our chances both of beating Charlton and of getting promoted have been significantly reduced, given that DJ seemed to be improving all the time. Also, what are the chances we never see the conditional 500k?
 

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I completely agree.

I can understand the emotion that people are feeling. In the last 5 weeks DJ has given hope to long and short serving Brentford fans alike that we can push forward for promotion. I dont believe it is the end of our season by any means but it does make things a little less exciting.

What does surprise me is the anger directed at the club when we have no idea how this transfer was negotiated. As you say if DJ gets an offer from a premiership club what do you honestly expect him to do? And therefore do you honestly believe the club are going to stand in his way? You simply couldnt do it. I too would like to think that If I were in DJ's situation I would want to stay and do a job at Brentford but in realitiy it is going to be a lot more complicated and everyone can understand him taking the opportunity whilst he can. Sodje stayed but I am sure that if his offer was from Fulham I 100% guarantee that he would have gone yesterday too.

Its frustrating but there is no point in getting angry at the club.

We were top of the table before DJ was scoring for us this season so as far as I am concerned we are still heading onwards and upwards. My only real concern is if we dont get promoted and MA understandably decideds that his time is up. If he gets a good offer when that happens I am sure most of us realise he will be going as well. That will be a sadder day.

Heads up Lads. Out time will come.
 

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DJ was on the radio this morning saying that MA said he would be silly to turn the offer down.
 

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Jimbee said:
We have won several games without DJ this season. Without Sodje, we're a shambles.
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Yep.
 

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eghambee said:
DJ was on the radio this morning saying that MA said he would be silly to turn the offer down.
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And MA's right of course, despite the fact that he would have loved to have kept him.
 

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absolutelly right..its OUR club now it may not feel like it at times but yesterday was when cold hard reality set in wed all like to forget the £9m debt but sadly the creditors wont it needs servicing and this is the first time ive been taken aback at how MUCH rather than how little weve got for a player...dj is totally unproven and represents a modest punt by brum..very much like it was for us...good luck to him hes lucky to get his chance so soon...as for the future...the trick is to get used to this type of thing happening and trust that the deals that are done in the future are good ones and we dont get continually shafted like we always used to....Crewe are a good role model for us..they are always selling players for big money and have that reputation..plus theyve spent several years at championship level with the odd relegation/promotion thrown in..those looking to blame anyone should look no further than No£des..the recent mismanagement has only acted as a minor irritation compared to his rape of the club...plus in the short term it would have helped to pull out Man U away our unnerring success at avoiding the really big paydays in the cup meant that the sale was inevitable !!...we can still go up...we can still save this club !!
 

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The title of your thread has a very anti fans feeling about it and I hope you can edit it.

You write a fanzine and then slag some fans off for having opinions on there club.
500k is a bullshit amount of money as 100k go to yeading.

500k could have been 1.2 million if we kept DJ as on the 18/02/2006 in 2 weeks we would have beat Charlton in the cup and got the 1.2 without selling,No DJ we will lose that game and go on for the rest of the season with Fitz scoring 1 goal and the bees in 12th place.
sh*te deal to be honest.
 

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Obviously as devoted fans we will all initailly look at this news and be disappointed to see DJ go. Goalscorers are hard to find and he was building up a very promising partnership with Owusu. It may affect our season in League One however DJ didn't feature much in the first few months of the season, when we were sitting pretty in the league, and has only just recently been scoring consistently.
It's difficult to separate the head and heart on these matters.
You have to realise these are real people we are dealing with, not just someone we pay to watch score goals for us. Could you really turn to DJ and say sorry mate, you have the opportunity to play at the highest level in probably the best league in the world and you'll be securing your financial future if you continue to knuckle down and work hard but we are going to keep you in the hope that we can get some more points on the board and maybe promotion?
I couldn't that's for sure. When you are a footballer you dream of a good move, it's your short career you are interested in and if there was ever a chance to progress then you'd take it, let alone someone who had a professional contract, let it slip, realised they made a mistake, was lucky enough to have another opportunity for a professional contract and then this!
The £500K is a decent fee, I think most would have appreciated this before the weekend. Anything more depending on appearances is even better. Of course it's good business for the club, you can't build a team, or club come to think of it around one player.This is the football food chain, how ****ed off do you think Yeading were when he left for £5000 to join us? If you had the chance to convert £5k into minimum £500K in 7 months I'm sure you'd see it as a good deal.
I'm gutted he's gone but BFC goes on, nows the time to work on the players we have. :sorted:
 

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Jimbee said:
We have won several games without DJ this season. Without Sodje, we're a shambles.
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Can't argue with that.

As Nocoat said only a bufoon would see this as a bad deal, once the interest was shown we had to get the best deal we could, I think we did quite well :sorted:
 

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Duplicate thread surely?

MA has had a clear policy from day one (including for himself) that players who can step up to a higher level will not be prevented from doing so. The Sodje position shows that if the player had not wanted to take the move it wouldn't have been forced. I don't think this will have an adverse effect on team morale because it is just another example of MA being straight with his players and delivering on his promise to improve them so that they can have a great career. He thrives on giving his players the self-belief to do this and the opportunity to prove themselves.
 

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I would still like to know who the "they" is? I have no problems with them accepting this particular offer although I'd like to know the exact details of the clauses for the extra 500k but I'd like to know who makes the decisions. At the moment Martin seems to be doing all the Board's PR work. His update mentions raising the money for the ground improvements. Any chance of BB or GD doing similar updates on the OS now that we're a fan run club?
 

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Jimbee said:
We have won several games without DJ this season. Without Sodje, we're a shambles.
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Nail on the head. In the cold light of day, losing DJ is dissapointing, but the money received has made it well worth it. If we had sold Sodje it would have been the end of our season - so it's smiles all round - and heopfully Willock will know where the back of the net is too :)
 

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it is good business, as we made money out of him, and got a return straight away. its just disappointing that it came out of nowhere, and the shock of it happening.
 

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Simon C said:
I would still like to know who the "they" is? I have no problems with them accepting this particular offer although I'd like to know the exact details of the clauses for the extra 500k but I'd like to know who makes the decisions. At the moment Martin seems to be doing all the Board's PR work. His update mentions raising the money for the ground improvements. Any chance of BB or GD doing similar updates on the OS now that we're a fan run club?
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Martin did the piece to ' cool things down' I think.
It was always going to sound better from him than the Directors, Chairman..

Don't anyone be mis-led, he was gutted last night.
But as I said in the other post, how can he keep a player when something like that is offered to him?

The Directors do the deals not Martin.
 

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Greenholme Bee said:
Martin did the piece to ' cool things down' I think.
It was always going to sound better from him than the Directors, Chairman..

Don't anyone be mis-led, he was gutted last night.
But as I said in the other post, how can he keep a player when something like that is offered to him?

The Directors do the deals not Martin.
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Which directors is what I'd like to know? We don't appear to have any executive directors anymore?

I know Martin has full control of any team updates on the site but the Board has been quiet since the takeover.
 

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Dangerous said:
The title of your thread has a very anti fans feeling about it and I hope you can edit it.

You write a fanzine and then slag some fans off for having opinions on there club.
500k is a bullshit amount of money as 100k go to yeading.

500k could have been 1.2 million if we kept DJ as on the 18/02/2006 in 2 weeks we would have beat Charlton in the cup and got the 1.2 without selling,No DJ we will lose that game and go on for the rest of the season with Fitz scoring 1 goal and the bees in 12th place.
sh*te deal to be honest.
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We had a really sensible conversation about this last night Dangerous?
I like you and I like your passion (don't tell the missus!) but we are not always going to agree are we?
 

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Jimbee said:
We have won several games without DJ this season. Without Sodje, we're a shambles.
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Hmmm, but Sodje's contract runs out in the summer so he can leave for free. And that will mean that he will also be able to command better terms for himself, so I'm not quite sure why people are considering him to be a saint (copyright Beesotted 2006). It was a perfectly sensible decision by Sodje and his advisers if you ask me.

Anyway, onwards and upwards
 

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Dangerous said:
The title of your thread has a very anti fans feeling about it and I hope you can edit it.

You write a fanzine and then slag some fans off for having opinions on there club.
500k is a bullshit amount of money as 100k go to yeading.

500k could have been 1.2 million if we kept DJ as on the 18/02/2006 in 2 weeks we would have beat Charlton in the cup and got the 1.2 without selling,No DJ we will lose that game and go on for the rest of the season with Fitz scoring 1 goal and the bees in 12th place.
sh*te deal to be honest.
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Have to say that IMHO you are talking crap.....Why makes you think that Charlton would be the push over you seem to think....I think you are getting carried away with the euphoria of beating Sunderland....Charlton will be a very different proposition...

It makes economic sense to accept the deal that was on offer....we are in a precarious financial position and think the banks might have had something to say had that sort of revenue been turned down.

I understand your frustration but we really have to be realistic as to where BFC stands at this moment in time.

Onwards and upwards ....:sorted:
 

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Have to say that IMHO you are talking crap.....Why makes you think that Charlton would be the push over you seem to think....I think you are getting carried away with the euphoria of beating Sunderland....Charlton will be a very different proposition...

It makes economic sense to accept the deal that was on offer....we are in a precarious financial position and think the banks might have had something to say had that sort of revenue been turned down.

I understand your frustration but we really have to be realistic as to where BFC stands at this moment in time.

Onwards and upwards ....:sorted:
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So when we get knocked out the cup and when we dont go up this season, and when you see DJ has scored 6 goals for Brum in the premier at the end of the season then you say I am talking crap.
I am just fustrated at the bees as I have seen the same with Forster when the bees was doing very very well why oh why do the fans have to put up with the crap dished out by the club we all love.
 

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Dangerous said:
The title of your thread has a very anti fans feeling about it and I hope you can edit it.

You write a fanzine and then slag some fans off for having opinions on there club.
500k is a bullshit amount of money as 100k go to yeading.

500k could have been 1.2 million if we kept DJ as on the 18/02/2006 in 2 weeks we would have beat Charlton in the cup and got the 1.2 without selling,No DJ we will lose that game and go on for the rest of the season with Fitz scoring 1 goal and the bees in 12th place.
sh*te deal to be honest.
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Is this the same Fitz that came in at the end of the season and scored a few vital goals to keep the Bees in League 1?

OK he hasn't made his mark, but he hasn't played a huge amount of games since. maybe now is the time to give him a few starts. Feeding off Lloyd may help.

As I have said elsewhere, If Lloyd had scored the two goals on Saturday, there would not have been the mass hysteria. Its a pi55er that he has gone. We have more cash for a player who has had less than 6 months in league 1 than we got for a proven goalkeeper.
 

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Dangerous said:
500k is a bullshit amount of money as 100k go to yeading.

500k could have been 1.2 million if we kept DJ as on the 18/02/2006 in 2 weeks we would have beat Charlton in the cup and got the 1.2 without selling,No DJ we will lose that game and go on for the rest of the season with Fitz scoring 1 goal and the bees in 12th place.
sh*te deal to be honest.
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Is this the same Dangerous who felt DJ wasnt worth £50 k ?


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Dangerous said:
He is not worth 50k let alone the silly figures been branded about, the man can not head a ball..
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Time and only time will tell. Decisions are made for reasons and sometimes the are difficult to take. DJ's gone and CW's in. Sodje's here to the end of the season and we are 5th in league one and in the 5th round of the FA Cup. We are not and never will be a one player team. Every player, plays for the management, for the team, for the club and for the fans. Personally, I think this will make the team stronger and onwards and upwards...we go
 

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Greenholme Bee said:
I would like this thread to be left on its own and not combined with the others as its something I feel really strongly about.
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Sorry GB - too many similar threads - trying to get them under control.
 

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Wee Dave said:
Sorry GB - too many similar threads - trying to get them under control.
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:eek: :D :D
 

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Putting it all in perspective. Depending on what the figures you read, we are forecast to loose £3-600,000.

The sale of DJ brings in £400,000
Fourth round win say - £150,000
Rounds 1-3 say - £100,000

So we could be between £50,000-£350,000 in front already. Thats without a potential £200k from the Charlton game.

If Brum stay up, thats another £500k.

We have the potential to turn a 3-600k loss into a £750,000 - £1,050,000 profit.

These figures are a very approximate guide and I accept absolutly no liablity as to their accuracy or inaccuracy;)
 

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Dangerous said:
So when we get knocked out the cup and when we dont go up this season, and when you see DJ has scored 6 goals for Brum in the premier at the end of the season then you say I am talking crap.
I am just fustrated at the bees as I have seen the same with Forster when the bees was doing very very well why oh why do the fans have to put up with the crap dished out by the club we all love.
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Surely the businessmen on the board don't deal with if's and but's, or otherwise they'd be gambling the very existence of our club. If you're asking them to take a risk, then our future depends on it. Just for once in our lives, whilst we have to bite the bullet, we finally have a chance to really grow and establish ourselves as a club that can be ambitious. We could never have been realistically ambitious under a greedy chairman who wanted to use us for his own gain. We can now, but we have to suffer for the previous regimes now.
I'm not prepared to support a club whose chairmen and directors actively gambled with our very existence. I am prepared to support the club now despite the adversity that faces us, because once the debt is nil, any future money that comes in is for the club, no-one else.
If the Board of Directors gamble with out future, based on what if's, then nothing has changed. Who knows what we could have gotten for DJ at the end of the season. We are dealing with the present, and the gamble is that DJ could have lost his form, could have been injured (a la Rhodesey), and that potential transfer money could have disppeared. That would have been a disaster and not acceptable for the future of our club. At least by taking the money now, we still have a future of some sort to talk about.
 

DJ: Good business threads (merged) - inc Greenholme's rant

King Bee said:
Hmmm, but Sodje's contract runs out in the summer so he can leave for free. And that will mean that he will also be able to command better terms for himself, so I'm not quite sure why people are considering him to be a saint (copyright Beesotted 2006). It was a perfectly sensible decision by Sodje and his advisers if you ask me.

Anyway, onwards and upwards
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Thats the way I see it. Far from being a hero, Sam was simply looking after his own interests first. In fact, you could consider that his selfish actions have cost the Club £300-£500k:sorted:
 
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