RIP Ron Greenwood

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RIP Ron Greenwood

BBC sport reporting Ron Greenwood has passed away aged 84. :( One of Brentford's greats and after his move to Chelsea in 1952 won the Championship at Stamford Bridge.

The Harper-Hill-Greenwood half-back line was considered of Brentford's finest.

Won an England B cap whilst at Brentford.

RIP Ron. :sorted:
 

RIP Ron Greenwood

Sad news indeed RIP...
 

RIP Ron Greenwood

RIP.:(
 

RIP Ron Greenwood

Sad news and a decent England Manager.
 

RIP Ron Greenwood

This is very sad indeed. The first game I ever attended at GP was the Ken Coote Testimonial Match, Ron bought a full West Ham side fresh from their victory in the European Cup Winners Cup Final – including the soon-to-be World Cup Trio of stars.

Ron spent a lot of time signing autographs for impressionable youngsters(!) like myself and set a standard in his modesty and dignity.
 

RIP Ron Greenwood

Met the man in his England magement days at Griffin Park.

A sad loss, RIP Mr Greenwood
 

RIP Ron Greenwood

stedders said:
This is very sad indeed. The first game I ever attended at GP was the Ken Coote Testimonial Match, Ron bought a full West Ham side fresh from their victory in the European Cup Winners Cup Final – including the soon-to-be World Cup Trio of stars.

Ron spent a lot of time signing autographs for impressionable youngsters(!) like myself and set a standard in his modesty and dignity.
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How right you are Stedders, the man was a real gentleman. Pity the likes of today, could not take a leaf out of Rons book.
 

RIP Ron Greenwood

Best wishes and condolences to all his family.

A sad loss, although too young to remember him as England manager, he is still someone I have always had respect for.

RIP




(Ps Sorry for the duplicate thread)
 

RIP Ron Greenwood

A very sad day as a youngster I watched him play for the Bees,
he was a class player as well as good man
 

RIP Ron Greenwood

Ron Greenwood was a true gent, a very decent and respectable man. I think one of his svery first game in charge for England, he choose 8 players from Liverpool.

RIP
 

RIP Ron Greenwood

My (late) father would often talk of that 50s team. He thought they were better than the one under Harry Curtis in the 30s. As someone above says, the Harper-Greenwood-Hill half-back line was one of the best in its day.
 

RIP Ron Greenwood

longdistancebee said:
My (late) father would often talk of that 50s team. He thought they were better than the one under Harry Curtis in the 30s. As someone above says, the Harper-Greenwood-Hill half-back line was one of the best in its day.
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Boxing Day 1951 was one of the biggest turning points in the club's history. Brentford were top of the old Second Division and challenging for promotion. During the game Saints centre-forward Frank Dudley (who later played for Brentford) cut inside our defence and scored .

After the match, which Brentford lost, a furious row developed between manager Jackie Gibbons, Jimmy Hill and Ron Greenwood over the goal from Dudley with the later pair handing in transfer requests. Jimmy of course moved to Fulham with Ron getting a move to Chelsea.

We never recovered that lofty position and were relegated in 1954.
 

RIP Ron Greenwood

That is sad news. RIP
 

RIP Ron Greenwood

Very Sad News - Can still remember singing were Big Rons 22, this time......

Odd that BFC say he was 82
 

RIP Ron Greenwood

Bought from Bradford for £9,000 in 1949 and sold to Chelsea for £6,000 in 1952.
 

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markbfc said:
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After the match, which Brentford lost, a furious row developed between manager Jackie Gibbons, Jimmy Hill and Ron Greenwood over the goal from Dudley with the later pair handing in transfer requests. Jimmy of course moved to Fulham with Ron getting a move to Chelsea.
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I'm sure you are correct Mark although Jimmy Hill says in his memoirs of that season,"Far from being at the bottom of the league at Christmas,we were near the top.Soon after this,as we slipped down the league,there was an upset at the club between the manager and the players.Ron Greenwood and I,sticking to our convictions,found ourselves on the transfer list".

For a while before this incident Ron Greenwood became interested in coaching and was taken on part time by Ealing Grammar School.Unfortunately he was very keen on the techniques of the game and we,the erstwhile team members were more interested in playing matches.He usually won out because,after all,he was one of our local heroes.He was a patient,kind man and I'm sure that he took to the England job some of those lessons learnt when dealing with the spotty kids of Ealing.
R.I.P.Ron
 

RIP Ron Greenwood

I spent a part of the late seventies / early eighties "lost" while I followed West Ham more than the Bees. At that time, the Acadamy was looking more like a school for special needs but they always tried to play true to Ron Greenwood's beliefs. In many ways, they struggled because of it as the golden age of Moore, Peters and Hurst was long gone. When he got the England job the common view from Upton Park was "We won you the world cup once, now you can have our manager so that you can do it again".

I must confess I wasn't aware of just how strong the Brentford connection was so I can see now that this was all down to his good education.

A proper football man. RIP Ron.
 
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RIP Ron Greenwood

RIP Mr Greenwood - the world has lost a true gentleman
 

RIP Ron Greenwood

A very sad day for Brentford and the Greenwood family. Ron Greenwood and Jimmy Hill were my Brentford heroes as a teenager at Griffin Park. They made a superb half-back line along with Harper and after Hill left, Bill Slater joined the club to maintain that high standard. I was heartbroken when Jimmy and Ron were transferred and could not understand what the management were doing to the club. Fifty years later I'm still trying to figure that out!!! Thanks for all the great memories Ron. RIP.
 

RIP Ron Greenwood

Some factfile on Greenwood on the Sportinglife site! A complete void between 1945 and 1955 including Ron's time with Brentford of which there is no mention.
 

RIP Ron Greenwood

Roo Bee said:
Bought from Bradford for £9,000 in 1949 and sold to Chelsea for £6,000 in 1952.
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Bradford Park Avenue..sorry to be pedantic!

Agree with a minute's silence on Saturday. Do we have to make a request to Bristol City? I would guess one will be held at all grounds anyway.
 

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Streetboy said:
Bradford Park Avenue..sorry to be pedantic!

Agree with a minute's silence on Saturday. Do we have to make a request to Bristol City? I would guess one will be held at all grounds anyway.
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Ex-England manager dies? I would hope so.
 

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Streetboy said:
Bradford Park Avenue..sorry to be pedantic!

Agree with a minute's silence on Saturday. Do we have to make a request to Bristol City? I would guess one will be held at all grounds anyway.
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If you're going to be picky, It's Bradford (Park Avenue) which was not the official title but the name of their ground was often appended to the name Bradford to distinguish that club from Bradford City. Curiously the latter is now frequently referred to as plain Bradford.

"Bradford Association Football Club was formed in 1907 and used the name of its ground, Park Avenue, to distinguish itself from Bradford City AFC and Bradford Northern RLFC.". The club now refers to itself as Bradford (Park Avenue) and use "The Avenue" frequently on its website.

On 3 May 1974 the shareholders agreed to liquidate the company with debts of £57,652. The supporters then registered the name as a company and began again in the Bradford Amateur Sunday League Division Four playing in the old kit of the former club. It does not state what the official name now is but the implication seems to be that it is Bradford (Park Avenue).

They remark in the website that around 2003 "Bradford (still the preferred title of the Club for many older supporters) established themselves in the top 10 clubs in the Premier Division of the Unibond League". The club now plays at the Horsfall Stadium just a mile from the old Park Avenue ground.
 

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Ron will always remind me of one of the best England squad songs, before pop stars and celebs were hired to sing them.

---from memory--
Hear the roar
we are Ron's 22
Feel the force
of the red, white and blue

this time
more than any other time, this time
we are gonna find a way
find a way to get a way this time
we know together, we'll make it through

etc

**SmiffyBee sings it slowly and sheds a tear**
 

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SmiffyBee said:
Ron will always remind me of one of the best England squad songs, before pop stars and celebs were hired to sing them.

---from memory--
Hear the roar
we are Ron's 22
Feel the force
of the red, white and blue

this time
more than any other time, this time
we are gonna find a way
find a way to get a way this time
we know together, we'll make it through

etc

**SmiffyBee sings it slowly and sheds a tear**
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Best football song ever. FACT.
 

RIP Ron Greenwood

markbfc said:
Best football song ever. FACT.
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:nono: World In Motion. John Barnes shows a composure in front of the camera never repeated since.
 

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Les Beeavinu said:
:nono: World In Motion. John Barnes shows a composure in front of the camera never repeated since.
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But the words were still written on a big card behind him, just like on Channel 5.
 

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I was staggered and appalled at the failure to hold a minute's silence for Ron Greenwood today. FFS he was the manager of England for five years. We've had minute's silences for people with no bloody football connection, so why not for one of England's finest? An utter disgrace. Was this a Bristol City decision or a Football League / FA decision? Who do I write to to express my disgust?
 

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Edmundo said:
I was staggered and appalled at the failure to hold a minute's silence for Ron Greenwood today. FFS he was the manager of England for five years. We've had minute's silences for people with no bloody football connection, so why not for one of England's finest? An utter disgrace. Was this a Bristol City decision or a Football League / FA decision? Who do I write to to express my disgust?
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Dont know but I would be very surprised if West Ham don't hold one on Monday night v Brum.

Assuming they do, it would be appropriate for Brentford to do the same on Tuesday night whether there is an FA directive or not. The bloke did play a hell of a lot of games for us irrespective of whether he was England Manager.

Hopefully those in charge of whether to do this at Brentford on Tuesday are capable of making an independent decision without waiting for the FA to give guidance ..............I'm sure West Ham will do their own thing and so should we.

I don't agree with holding minutes silences for just anyone as I think it debases the whole idea but there are occasions it really is appropriate and this is clearly one of them.
 

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There was a brief memorial before the match at Fulham today, a period of silence followed by a big cheer and applause.
 

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JTofBFC said:
I don't agree with holding minutes silences for just anyone as I think it debases the whole idea but there are occasions it really is appropriate and this is clearly one of them.
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Well exactly. If minute's silences aren't going to be held for former managers of the national team (excluding one game caretakers like Wilkinson or Taylor) then they should never be held at all.

As you say, Brentford should honour Greenwood on Tuesday.
 

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Brentford should not require the bidding of the FA to honour Ron Greenwood, a great Brentford player in his day who went on to serve the game and his country in admirable fashion. It would be shameful of the club to let his passing go by without public recognition.
 

RIP Ron Greenwood

California Bee said:
If you're going to be picky, It's Bradford (Park Avenue) which was not the official title but the name of their ground was often appended to the name Bradford to distinguish that club from Bradford City. Curiously the latter is now frequently referred to as plain Bradford.

"Bradford Association Football Club was formed in 1907 and used the name of its ground, Park Avenue, to distinguish itself from Bradford City AFC and Bradford Northern RLFC.". The club now refers to itself as Bradford (Park Avenue) and use "The Avenue" frequently on its website.

On 3 May 1974 the shareholders agreed to liquidate the company with debts of £57,652. The supporters then registered the name as a company and began again in the Bradford Amateur Sunday League Division Four playing in the old kit of the former club. It does not state what the official name now is but the implication seems to be that it is Bradford (Park Avenue).

They remark in the website that around 2003 "Bradford (still the preferred title of the Club for many older supporters) established themselves in the top 10 clubs in the Premier Division of the Unibond League". The club now plays at the Horsfall Stadium just a mile from the old Park Avenue ground.
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I, err, stand corrected. I think! Isn't the old ground now the Yorkshire Cricket Academy?

I too was puzzled about the lack of a minute's silence at Brizzle. Let's make sure there's one on Tuesday night. If we can hold one for a bloke who played a few games for Wycombe...
 
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RIP Ron Greenwood

markbfc said:
Best football song ever. FACT.
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Didn't it used to be played before matches at Griffin Park, around the mid/late 90s?
 

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California Bee said:
Brentford should not require the bidding of the FA to honour Ron Greenwood, a great Brentford player in his day who went on to serve the game and his country in admirable fashion. It would be shameful of the club to let his passing go by without public recognition.
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Seconded!!!
 

RIP Ron Greenwood

Whilst a minutes silence is respectful, a minutes applause and chanting of "Ron Greenwood" by name led by the fans (needing no official say-so) would be a means to celebrate the life of a bees fan, a club captain, a national manager and a true gentleman...if you cant celebrate that in the game then what can you?
 

RIP Ron Greenwood

Perhaps the Bees will have a minute's silence before tomorrow nights game.
 
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