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Qite honestly that was the biggest load of crap I've paid to see in my entire life - promotion they'd be lucky to stay up if that had not won games earlier in the season - what on earth has gone wrong with this side - its a shadow of its former self - something terribly amiss here and two more defeats at Mk Dons and Colchester and thats another season down the pan ..........
 

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A week is a long time in football and look where we are now compared with last Friday. £ defeats and the last 2 were both spineless performances.

Everything was wrong about today.

The team selection - was Sodje dropped, injured or had he arrived late as someonew intimated?

Hutch and Newman together at home _ Christ how creative!

No Rankin or Rhodes, OK maybe neitehr deserved to start but not on the bench too - why, injured or dropped?

Gayle up front with Owusu - hoofball regned supreme.

We were awful and created nothing in the first half and barely got into their penalty area. Gayle shot wide from distance and crossed across an empty net.

nelson made 2 decent saves on the interval and Brooker had time but hit a first time shot towards the corner flag.

Just after halftime Tabb was put through at an angle and his shot hit the keeper - ourt chance had gone.

Donnie then realised how crap we were and hammered us hitting the post, bar and forcing a fantastic save frim Nelson.

We thought we had weathered the storm and Tabb curled a great free kic=k to the top corner but it was well saved.

Donnie then scored, we dithered and the ballw a scrossed to Thornton who bobbled it in off the post. Game over.

3 subs came on Pillock, Prat and Peters (without Lee) - all lived up tot heir names.

We created nothing and never put them under any pressure. This madse Tuesday look good.

Nelson did well - he had to

Smith was awful, really awful, negative, weak in the tackle got forward once, yes once and put his cross into the crowd from a good position. Completer waste of space

Turner and Frampton were solid and uninspired

Tillen adequate but wasted crossing chances

Brooker - weak limp wristed and poor (subbed)

Newman (subbed) average

Hutch (subbed) played like my choccie lab, keen eager, chased around after the ball and achieved nothing

Tabb - head went down near the end as he had run himslef into the ground with no luck or support

Owusu - crap

Gayle - won balls early on ended up at left back - average

Pratley - gave the ball away

Peters - starved of the ball

Willock - invisible

It looks as if results went our way today but who cares, we need to sort ourselves out first.

Wally would have been ashamed of todays performance - very little effort, craft, creativity and imagination.

Their keepewr dozed in the rain and could have brought an umbrella out with him so untroubled was he.

This was awful. What is going on ?
 

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The chickens have come home to roost. Anybody who thinks we are going up is a complete mad man.

Nelson - OK

Framps - Average, often not strong enough in the tackle
Turner - Distribution woeful
Smith - Average contributed nothing going forward.
Tillen - Average defending, but passing and crossing crap
EH - Not a professional footballer, I suggest the building game
Newman - Please just go away and write a book about your glorious career and don`t come near TW8
Brooker - 3year contact for this ****.:eek:
Gayle - no legs left :wave: :wave: :wave:
Owussu - Tried 110% but simply isn`t good enough anymore
Tabb - fantastic efforts but can`t finish

Lost to thew better team.:(
 

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You enjoyed it as much as I did then? Nothing further to add except I couldn't understand why we changed so much tactically 2nd half. Pick the best 11, play 4-4-2 football on the floor.

We had poor midfielders playing centre forward, centre forwards ending up left back, 3 at the back, 5 up front, 5 in midfield and in the end disappeared up our own arsehole.

Back to basics and let the players play Martin.
 

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Performance was woeful. a few bright moments from Tabby but other than that we were poor. Smith can **** off back to Bristol City. Lacked any effort, heart or clue..........is Mousinho injured??. Turner was ok today, had a few stray passes but if he werent there would have been far worse. 3 defeats out of 3, we are in danger of throwing this away. MK and Colchester performances HAVE to be better and we HAVE to get something out of these games. Newman.............:nono:
 

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Les Beeavinu said:
You enjoyed it as much as I did then? Nothing further to add except I couldn't understand why we changed so much tactically 2nd half. Pick the best 11, play 4-4-2 football on the floor.

We had poor midfielders playing centre forward, centre forwards ending up left back, 3 at the back, 5 up front, 5 in midfield and in the end disappeared up our own arsehole.

Back to basics and let the players play Martin.

An absolute farce!! At one point we were playing 4-5-1 with Hutch up front FFS!! AT HOME!!! What is going on Martin? The moment the teams were read out I knew there was going to be no football on display, and so it proved. Donny were very average and there for the taking, but once they'd realised our only tactic was to hoof the ball forward for Gayle and Owusu to not flick on, then they took hold of the game and could and should have won by 3 or 4. Only some great stops from Nelson kept us in it.. If that's going to be our tactics for the rest of the season, I'm ****ed if I'm going to be watching it, and I doubt if most of the 7k who were there today will either..

Tabby, Turner and Framps only ones to come out with any credit. Though Turner/Frampton has to be the slowest centre back pairing in the division. Combine that with Newman/Hutch in the middle then it's no wonder that whenever we did break with pace through Tabb and Brooker there was never any other ****er near them to pass to!!

Aboslutely abysmal. If we play like that we won't even make the play-offs and we won't deserve to either..
 

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Rubbish game basically like Tuesday without the goals.

Newman close the door behind you son. Your no leader of men and definately not a professional football player.
 

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First half we probably shaded it on possession. Second half was dire.

Once they scored we just went backwards.Triple subs may have seemed bold but ultimately looked rather foolish as we took off two players doing OK (Brooker and Newman) and one modestly OK (Hutch) and replaced them with three who played very poorly.

What has happened since Barnsley??
 

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Still in a state of shock. Tactically inept which must go down to MA/AW. Just hearing the starting lineup and seeing what was on the bench did not inspire confidence. Disagree with others in that Donny are a good side who can play a bit as they showed after HT and they will hurt a few others and be a force in the div next season.

Expected a knee jerk reaction from MA after Tuesday. It's his style but not seeing Rankin or Rhodes even on the bench was shocker and playing Marcus up front at home was a joke decision. How unhappy does Jay look playing out wide?

Smith - waste of space. Two yards off the pace and with no pace which is why he never gets forward. Framps at fault for the goal but one of the few who put in 100%.

Was always going to go down to the last day. It's a Brentford thing.
 

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Nelson - 8 - Not helped at all by his defense. We would have lost this 5-0 were it not for him...

Tillen - 5 Poor game going forward, no urgency.
Framps - 6 - Very Solid but pulled out of position a lot.
Turner - 5 - Solid but distribution was shocking.
Smith - 0 - Rubbish. Rubbish, rubbish, rubbish. Showed the winger inside EVERY time! Not a single (legal) challenge. I actually AM better than him. I would play for free too...

Tabb - 8 - Ran himself silly. Really should have been in the centre. Great free kick.
Hutch - 5 - Not as poor as some would suggest.
Newman - 5 - Seemed to let himself get bossed about by the inneffectual Smith for some reason. Not anywhere near as influential as he should have been.
Brooker - 4 - Getting braver in the challenge. Getting worse on the ball.

Gayle - 2 - Why did he start?
Owusu - 6 - He did keep going, but tripped over himself too often. When he won it in the air, he had no support.


Peters - 3 - No service, thus, was anonymous.
Pratley - 3 - Bad day at the office. Again...
Willock - 6 - Some good runs. Good strength. Will get better. Start him on Tuesday.


Ref and Breamer lino were as poor as I've seen.

If the Bees had played with the, ahem, 'enthusiasm' of the stewards in the Paddock today, we'd have been fine...
 
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I can't believe people applauded that shower of shlt off the pitch.

We were woeful, spineless and brainless.

Mr Allen has to take his share of the blame too. He's supposed to pick the best team, he chooses the tactics, he's supposed to motivate them. He didn't do his job today.

PMA? Pointless Martin Allen (from the last three games anyway)
 

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Absolute sh*te.

It may not be time to start popping the pills but I'm certainly reaching for the packet.

Time to try something else up front, Owusu just isn't good enough by a long long way.

And if Hutchinson is the answer, god knows what the question is.

Allen clearly doesn't know his best team at the moment and it shows.
 

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Stanley said:
Triple subs may have seemed bold but ultimately looked rather foolish as we took off two players doing OK (Brooker and Newman) and one modestly OK (Hutch) and replaced them with three who played very poorly.

What has happened since Barnsley??

Brooker and Newman doing OK.:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:

How anybody can rate these two is beyond me and as a club captain he is a disgrace. The sad thing is we can`t even kick em out as they are on long contracts.:(
 

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I didnt like what I read in the chronicle today about the players shouting and swearing at each other after the Swansea game and MA just sitting and watching.
I feel there is no team spirit in the side at the moment and it shows on the pitch . No one wanted that game today except Tabby.
Sort it out Martin Allen sharpish.
our season is over
 

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love and mercy said:
I feel there is no team spirit in the side at the moment and it shows on the pitch . No one wanted that game today except Tabby.
Sort it out Martin Allen sharpish.
our season is over

Could well be, when Pratley came on no-one wanted to pass to him. Framps even dribbled round him in order not to.. something certainly seems amiss..
 

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Gutless, guileless, gormless effort (or should I say, lack of) for the whole 96 minutes. Please can we give up the Hoof-ball and at least try to use feet... brains may be a bit much to ask on today's showing.
 

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Possibly the worst performance since Tuesday..
MA Really has to get a grip of this before he becomes..'another Brentford Manager'.

A player confirmed Sodjie was too late for his name to be on the teamsheet, so lets tout him out now, get rid and fine him two weeks wages if this is his payback for being subbed on Tuesday?

People battered me for slagging Newman and Brooker as Noddy Holder once said 'Where are my doubters now?'
Both are a disgrace to wear the Red and White shirts.

The players were cluless, spineless and looked relegation fodder.

What a day to announce ticket price increases which are themselves a joke.

Brentford can kiss my arse next season if we blow this promotion.
Can you imagine, £20 to watch that sh*te, in a sh*te division?
 

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Just got back from having to drive there my self.

Woeful .We looked liked a relegation team .Tabb was the only one who gets any praise .Lloyd tried hard .I wonder if MA has " lost the dressing room " a bit ? I was speaking to my wifes cousin Stuart Robson on Thursday as a family funeral .He was at the Gillingham game reporting for " The League Paper " which is out tomorrow .He commented that when MA bawled out Sodje ,Owusu and Rankin they openly shouted back at him and told him to " **** off " .Theres some other bits which he cant put in the report ,but even so I dont think it will be pretty reading :(
 

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We were lucky to get out of that losing only 1 - 0 . Rovers hit the bar twice and had countless other chances.
Nelson , Tabb and Frampton done ok but a rubbish team performance. 3 defeats on the bounce .... not a good time of the season for that to happen. :sad:
 

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Greenholme Bee said:
A player confirmed Sodjie was too late for his name to be on the teamsheet, so lets tout him out now, get rid and fine him two weeks wages if this is his payback for being subbed on Tuesday?

If that's true, let's make sure we fine him. I'm not giving over my hard-earned to watch players take the ****.
 

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Les Beeavinu said:
If that's true, let's make sure we fine him. I'm not giving over my hard-earned to watch players take the ****.

I think a good few are mate, did you see Owusu tell MA to F*** Off in the first half?

I thought Martin was a hard man, it looks like he has a problem on his hands..
 

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Greenholme Bee said:
I think a good few are mate, did you see Owusu tell MA to F*** Off in the first half?

I thought Martin was a hard man, it looks like he has a problem on his hands..

OTT on the 'hard-nut' style? Oh dear, we have really fallen apart :( Martin to Sunderland :(
 

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If we all calm down, do people really think that there is a fundamental problem here now? Has MA lost the dressing room or is it just that we happen to be on a little bad run?

After recent displays it's hard to believe it, but automatic promotion is still in our hands. I'm not trying to be optimistic...in fact, I don't think we're going up. But is there really a deeper problem or are people just disappointed and getting a bit carried away?
 

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Greenholme Bee said:
I think a good few are mate, did you see Owusu tell MA to F*** Off in the first half?

If that is true then drop him for the rest of the season. We don't need him anyway for the little he contributes.
 

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Greenholme Bee said:
I think a good few are mate, did you see Owusu tell MA to F*** Off in the first half?

I thought Martin was a hard man, it looks like he has a problem on his hands..


This can be one of the pitfalls of having a small squad of so called
quality players. if they start playing the big i am you can't afford to
drop them because sometimes your reserves dont quite make the
grade........ mr hutchinson!!
 

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kendo said:
This can be one of the pitfalls of having a small squad of so called
quality players. if they start playing the big i am you can't afford to
drop them because sometimes your reserves dont quite make the
grade........ mr hutchinson!!

Watching Hutchinson give it his all every game fills me with more joy to be a Brentford fan that some half-arsed bunch of Brentford players that come and go, that may put in a good performance here and there.
 

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JTofBFC said:
If that is true then drop him for the rest of the season. We don't need him anyway for the little he contributes.


Put your hard hat on and be prepared for the 'Lloyd is still a half decent player posse' to launch :D

Lloyd has been sh*te for most of the season and it sickens me to think he is paid a basic of £1800 per week and has a guaranteed pay rise built into his contract for next season...
 

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I'm worried about this speak of MA losing the dressing room. I was living in Reading when he was assistant and the talk when he got sacked was that he was over aggressive and the squad turned on him.
 

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What we need is a little honesty from this club towards its fans. That includes Bees Utd,BIAS and everyone else connected with the club and the programme.
Why was there nothing in the programme today about the Gillingham match, fracas between pratley and fans and sodge?
Do we need to remind all that we fund this club. We put money in buckets and attend away games at Swansea and gillingham midweek - 800 fans.
We deserve better than this total lack of information. Hardly anything on the website from the reverred MA except something about "no sulking". Why nothing for us fans about the above?
Lets also deal with the ridiculous team selection today,Gillingham and Swansea accompanied by ridiculous substitutions. Why no MA comment? Maybe he who enjoys the acclaim ( broadly deserved but a bit excessive at times) could at least expalin to us his thinking. I also wonder whether an apology to the fans regarding tuesday night might be appropriate. Guys give up work to travel to the depths of Kent and make all sort of sacrifices. I personally have organised my professional work around being able to go to these away games. Why did I bother? If they play badly or lose through bad luck then thats part of life but when they do not bother- that is unacceptable.
I make 2 asks here. Firstly more information from all that allegedly serve us. Secondly some sort of explanation from MA re these recent events. We will not get into the play offs at this rate.
 

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I literally staggered to the game with acute sciatica and a damn useless right leg (no sympathy please). Without my 2 fine friends it would have been impossible. I turned up but the team didnt. Still shaking with fury and at time close to tears.
 

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I want Lloyd bombed out in the summer, hes utter utter sh*te, I dont want a player who is known as a 100 %'er, who wins headers in non dangerous areas of the field, who doesnt shoot and doesnt pick up loose balls in the box...

and were only just in the play off positions too
 

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Ronan said:
OTT on the 'hard-nut' style? Oh dear, we have really fallen apart :( Martin to Sunderland :(

Didnt you read this from my earlier post ?

Rankin and Sodje dropped today ,maybe Lloyds next then ?


He was at the Gillingham game reporting for " The League Paper " which is out tomorrow .He commented that when MA bawled out Sodje ,Owusu and Rankin they openly shouted back at him and told him to " **** off " .Theres some other bits which he cant put in the report ,but even so I dont think it will be pretty reading
 

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Sodje apparently turned up at 2.20,not good enough Sam:nono:

Martin Allen has to take an element of makor blame today.Starting with Gayle and Owusu up front is never effective.Why buy Willock and leave him on the bench:confused:

I think i will blame Brooker as every one else uses the poor sod as a scapegoat:mad1:

Have we got the bottle,no-not on todays showing:sad:
 

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North London Bee said:
was Sodje dropped, injured or had he arrived late as someonew intimated?
Arrived @ 2:15, 15 mins after the team sheet had to be put in - he was on the original...

North London Bee said:
No Rankin or Rhodes, OK maybe neitehr deserved to start but not on the bench too - why, injured or dropped?
Rankin had a 'flu bug', Rhodes needs 'more training'.
 

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A Downesque performance

Thats it ! Thats that what it was like , they had all ,except Tabby given up
 

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Lets crystallise the comments on here. The players are not trying and the ones that are are not good enough.
Newman,Hutchinson ,Gayle,Brooker - would all struggle to get into a conference side. It has been appalling judgement to play any of these folk and as for signing Newman,Brooker and Fitzgerald????
As above MA needs to openly tell the folks that pay his wages ( us) what exactly is or is not going on.
 

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Bigbee said:
Didnt you read this from my earlier post ?

Rankin and Sodje dropped today ,maybe Lloyds next then ?


He was at the Gillingham game reporting for " The League Paper " which is out tomorrow .He commented that when MA bawled out Sodje ,Owusu and Rankin they openly shouted back at him and told him to " **** off " .Theres some other bits which he cant put in the report ,but even so I dont think it will be pretty reading
I was posting after reading yours :grey:
 

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Brickie Chap said:
Put your hard hat on and be prepared for the 'Lloyd is still a half decent player posse' to launch :D

Lloyd has been sh*te for most of the season and it sickens me to think he is paid a basic of £1800 per week and has a guaranteed pay rise built into his contract for next season...

I'm ready for it, I know he has a devoted following who think a couple of flick ons every game is enough.

Why the **** wasn't he on the end of that ball across the box in the last five minutes............because he isn't an instinctive striker and never pops up with a goal when you need him to.

I know Rhodes hasn't been great in the last couple of games but he has more goalscoring instinct in his little toe than Lloydy has in his whole body.

Why did MA waste £50k on Willock. Kneejerk signing we will come to regret. Might as well put him in now though, he really can't be any worse.
 

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For what it's worth, my master plan for victory today was Owusu and Marcus up front as Lloyd is no target man and is not being used correctly at the moment. It's time for a large clearing of the air now, we deserve to be told if there is something going on behind the scenes and if some players are not giving 100% for whatever reason then they can sit in the stand for the rest of the season as far as I'm concerned. I always thought this team had character above everything else and four points from the next two games will show it. I'd rather finish seventh with players who care.
 

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FarnhamBee said:
Arrived @ 2:15, 15 mins after the team sheet had to be put in - he was on the original...


Rankin had a 'flu bug', Rhodes needs 'more training'.


Farnham ,can you get back earlier and post whats been happening please ? It maybe will save some of the rumours ,your just plain lazy :nono: Wheres your damn photos ? Its 7.36 :nono: ;)
 

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Ronan said:
Watching Hutchinson give it his all every game fills me with more joy to be a Brentford fan that some half-arsed bunch of Brentford players that come and go, that may put in a good performance here and there.

:imwith:

I don't want to criticise Allen, but I think some of the players are thinking they are better than they are and he needs to tell them some home truths... There again, perhaps he has and thats why they don't seem to care anymore..

Sodjie really should be pulled over the coals for his attitude today...
 

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Like it or not you can't replace quality (Sodje, Pratley, Rankin) with hard work endeavour and no ability(Hutch, The Brizzle reject who would make Ronnie Bull look good, Tillen!!)

Owusu and Gayle (and then Hutch!!!!) up front today must be the slowest forward line I have seen since Owusu and Gayle at Charlton (It didn't work then, why should it today??

Making 3 subs at once is an admission of defeat, does nothing to help those coming onto the pitch to settle into the game, and hands all initiative to the opposition..

Poor team, poor decisions, poor result. To use an MA quote, I wish I'd stayed home and dug the garden!
 

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Kids made their GP debuts today - oh dear! My son fell asleep during the second half - says it all really. Absolutely flat atmosphere for a totally flat and woeful performance - there was very little, if anything, to cheer about. As others have said, I thought we looked a relegation side - no passion; no passing, no idea. If we carry on like this, we can forget the play-offs. I'm not sure whether PMA can carry me through but those players sure need to find some and damn quick.
 

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Rod Gowers said:
Like it or not you can't replace quality (Sodje, Pratley, Rankin) with hard work endeavour and no ability(Hutch, The Brizzle reject who would make Ronnie Bull look good, Tillen!!)

Owusu and Gayle (and then Hutch!!!!) up front today must be the slowest forward line I have seen since Owusu and Gayle at Charlton (It didn't work then, why should it today??

Making 3 subs at once is an admission of defeat, does nothing to help those coming onto the pitch to settle into the game, and hands all initiative to the opposition..

Poor team, poor decisions, poor result. To use an MA quote, I wish I'd stayed home and dug the garden!

No, I also agree with everything you say above..
Martin got it wrong, however if Rankin was sick, Sodjie was late then theres two people he had to do without. The Gayle /Owusu front pairing was NEVER going to work and my Nan was available today which would have been better than Newman..
 

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beedeleted said:
Lets crystallise the comments on here. The players are not trying and the ones that are are not good enough.
Newman,Hutchinson ,Gayle,Brooker - would all struggle to get into a conference side. It has been appalling judgement to play any of these folk and as for signing Newman,Brooker and Fitzgerald????
As above MA needs to openly tell the folks that pay his wages ( us) what exactly is or is not going on.

i too would like to hear from the manager as to why a martin allen
team has gone out and lost two football matches without so much as a fight

i heard a rumour that there was some problem between
the players after swansea and i'm beginning to believe it was something significant

defeat is acceptable if the effort is there but lack of desire isn't
and if these attitudes exist in the dressing room
i call on martin allen to pick a team at milton keynes that wants to play for brentford

if that means tabb, charlie ide and other nine kids then so be it

we want players who will run through brick walls for brentford
there are other dj campbell and freddie eastwoods out there
 

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flowerpower bee said:
i too would like to hear from the manager as to why a martin allen
team has gone out and lost two football matches without so much as a fight

i heard a rumour that there was some problem between
the players after swansea and i'm beginning to believe it was something significant

defeat is acceptable if the effort is there but lack of desire isn't
and if these attitudes exist in the dressing room
i call on martin allen to pick a team at milton keynes that wants to play for brentford

if that means tabb, charlie ide and other nine kids then so be it

we want players who will run through brick walls for brentford
there are other dj campbell and freddie eastwoods out there

Best Post of the Night...
 

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flowerpower bee said:
and if these attitudes exist in the dressing room
i call on martin allen to pick a team at milton keynes that wants to play for brentford

if that means tabb, charlie ide and other nine kids then so be it

we want players who will run through brick walls for brentford

:imwith:

If they give it their all, and we lose fair and square, we can't blame the players' commitment.
 

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Mediocre first half and then the midfield completely disappeared as they won every second ball, out passed us and strolled around making Thornton look like Gazza in his hey day.

Don't often ctiticise MA but this time I think he has to share a large part of the responsibility for an inept performance.

Starting line up wrong IMHO, no way should we be starting a home game with Hutch and Newman as the central midfield pair, Tabby is wasted on the wing and Lloyd and Marcus up front just doesn't work as we already know.

Saw Sodje stroll in just gone two o'clock so not sure if injured or already aware he wasn't starting but seemed to be sat on his own in the naughty chair and while happy to see Rhodes and Rankin rested assumed that this was the time to start Willock.
The game was crying out for a flair midfielder to combat theirs but in all honesty Pratley was abysmal when he came on and if that bloke who reckons he's on £10K a week at Fulham is right than no wonder theres rumours about ill feeling between the players. He was gutless, clueless and and whinging from the moment he came on. Shame coz he could become a very good player but somethings not right.

My other concern is Smith who I was pleased we got as cover for Kev but his home debut compares with Talbots! I noted three contributions all game, his first touch when he was caught in possession and they broke away while he stood and watched. The second a tackle so late and telegraphed the Donny player had time to notify the ref it was coming before hurdling it and the third a lovely curling cross that nearly decapitated someone in the Brook Road upper. Truly awful and typical of the whole game today.

What's really worrying is that the up and at 'em spirit seemed missing from the start and the only positives for me were Jays runs.

Must admit thought the ref had a good game today and seemed to get most things right and think Tabby looked to go over too easily on both occasions. Other refs might have seen to book him him in which case he'd have been off for a second yellow.

If there is a positive, things can't get any worse and the others around us didn't really capitalise so beat Franchise and avoid defeat to Col U and it's still in our hands.

Ratings

Nelson 7 Did well but scared me again with kick rebounding off the forward

Smith 3 Truly awful and doesn't resemble a footballer yet

Framps 7 Did most things well especially in unusual berth

Turner 7 Timing of tackles excellent as usual but distribution poor

Tillen 6 Tried hard and got forward on occasions but final delivery poor

Brooker 7 Despite poor finish thought he did well and poor choice to sub

Newman 5 Plugged away but needs someone next to him to help

Hutch 4 Bless him 100% tryer but 99% crap, he's not a footballer

Tabby 8 Looked the best player on the park and worked his nuts off

Gayle 6 Done OK but we need better than OK players to get us up

Lloyd 6 Worked hard and got others involved but no threat today

Subs

Pratley 3 If we hadn't used 3 subs I'd have subbed the sub

Peters 4 Too light -Rhodes or Rankin surely a better option on the bench

Willock 6 Ran around and at least looked lively if not productive
 

Bees Vs Doncaster - Match Reports

For my match report - See my Gillingham report.

We are in a decline - No spirit, No Pride, No Effort, No Ideas, No Clue. (Although Turner and Frampton may be excused)

Thanks lloyd but your return did not work
Thanks Gale but you are past it
Thanks Newman but you are nowhere near what we need

I cant be bothered to go on - I am bitterly disapointed, angry, frustrated etc etc etc.

The honeymoon was over some time ago Martin - Now is the time to show us your managment skills.

I will be at MK.Dons though
 

Bees Vs Doncaster - Match Reports

Turner, tabb, nelson, hutch and frampton were the only ones to come out of that game with any credibility, the rest were woeful.
the amount of times the ball went in to their box with no one looking to stick a head on it was woeful, owusu pull your finger out!
As for the midfield , apart from tabb they seemed petrified of getting into the box. Newman must be replaced by Lewis or whats the point in having him
 
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