Trouble with Torquay

Trouble with Torquay

"Seems to be some confusion as to who was involved, HE state it was Brentford fans & a Millwall fan appeared on our "Rivals" board claiming it was their fans! Roll Eyes

Quick scan of Torquay Youfs messageboard says it was Brentford & was down to our hooligan element being jumped in a suprise attack!"

That was from a Torquay messageboard.

My personal view is that the Brentford Youth Element or whatever they want to call themselves don't care about the football club and are just using it as an excuse to fight other youfs.
 
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BrentfordNutter said:
My personal view is that the Brentford Youth Element or whatever they want to call themselves don't care about the football club and are just using it as an excuse to fight other youfs.
My personal view is that I can't work out whether they are just embarrassing chavs, or potentially damaging to the reputation of Brentford as a safe club to follow.
 

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Edmundo said:
My personal view is that I can't work out whether they are just embarrassing chavs, or potentially damaging to the reputation of Brentford as a safe club to follow.

Both I should imagine. Trouble is, they're probably proud of it.
 

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A load of spotty oiks went to Paddington after the game to sort Torquay out?

I thought Jackanory finished years ago.
 

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If they are GPG'ers perhaps they could offer an explanation on here:(
 

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Edmundo said:
My personal view is that I can't work out whether they are just embarrassing chavs, or potentially damaging to the reputation of Brentford as a safe club to follow.

I think they're chavs looking for an excuse to fight. Sadly any incident involving Brentford will damage our reputation.
 

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BrentfordNutter said:
I think they're chavs looking for an excuse to fight

And how exactly would you know this,have you actually ever spoken to them?

There are one or two who are only after a scrap,but you cannot question their support for the club.

How can you say someone isn't a supporter because they have a row at Paddington,surely you do your supporting in the ground?
 

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LostBee said:
And how exactly would you know this,have you actually ever spoken to them?

There are one or two who are only after a scrap,but you cannot question their support for the club.

How can you say someone isn't a supporter because they have a row at Paddington,surely you do your supporting in the ground?

Some use the football as an excuse for a fight. They've seen it on TV and want to emulate it.
 

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20 problem fans? When we went to Sheff Wed in the play offs my brothers girlfriend was physically threatened by a sheff wed fan, and my other brother was attacked. On speaking to the police after the game an officer confirmed that out of the 1400 crowd there were 2 'problem' Bees. It is worrying that this number has increased ten fold since then. :(
 

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the real fans,us have to let the chavs/bye know that this great club of ours will not be a plaything for their pickled brains.
via the gpg & at the grounds, brentford must stay a family club & safe club to bring the kids.
 

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LostBee said:
And how exactly would you know this,have you actually ever spoken to them?

There are one or two who are only after a scrap,but you cannot question their support for the club.

How can you say someone isn't a supporter because they have a row at Paddington,surely you do your supporting in the ground?
I can question their support for the club if I choose too.

As Brickie Chap says, we should identify these scumbags and ban them from Griffin Park*

* except that the Chairman says we should welcome everyone to GP
 

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south coast bees said:
the real fans,us have to let the chavs/bye know that this great club of ours will not be a plaything for their pickled brains.
via the gpg & at the grounds, brentford must stay a family club & safe club to bring the kids.

Exactly
 

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lost bee should get lost if he can defend fighting, in a club name or on a friday night.
brentford fc is not a plaything
a fight must start here on the gpg telling anyone looking for trouble that bfc is not the place.
millwall are looking for chavs
 

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How could they have got there in time if they were at our match, find it hard to believe
 

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i think this kind of behaviour is a disgrace to brentford, jokz, i think its good that there is a bit of fighting, its only human, why is everyone worrying about the clubs reputation.
 
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well the link says they were on there way home and presuming they were not sight seeing in Barnet i imagine they left straight away
 

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hanworthbee said:
well the link says they were on there way home and presuming they were not sight seeing in Barnet i imagine they left straight away
Maybe they went for a drink first? Anyway, how long does it take to get from Barnet to Paddington? And how long does it take to get from Brentford to Paddington? I'll bet that the latter trip is quicker.
 

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well fighting Torquay fans is moronic, but there seems to be more Bees fans like this knowadays, Torquay is a decent club followed by a decent bunch of fans just like most of ours.
 

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torquay & brentford, where did this all start, darlington & brentford,leyton orient & brentford - do we hate everyone?.
the answer is yes if your a chav/bye, but then you don't know who your father is, do you?
 

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the h, spot on.
i think they should all get along to the new den.
if their mum will let them.
 

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that life but the boys (and they are boys,maybe never to be men) need a wake up call that if trouble is what they want look elsewhere in london.
brentford fc is not for hijacking.
the gpg is a starting point to tell them it is not big or clever to fight in the name of bfc or ?, grow up and make bfc a place & team to be proud of.
see you all at brighton tomorrow for a drink and a chat.
anything else p*** off ,bfc do not need you even for the money.
in yhe long term you will cost as.
up the bees!
 

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Edmundo said:
Maybe they went for a drink first? Anyway, how long does it take to get from Barnet to Paddington? And how long does it take to get from Brentford to Paddington? I'll bet that the latter trip is quicker.

Maybe. But I can't believe Torquay were complety innocent. There may have been a few phone calls made first
 

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SCARFER said:
Maybe. But I can't believe Torquay were complety innocent. There may have been a few phone calls made first
I really don't care about Torquay and don't feel their innocence or otherwise makes it any worse or better what the Brentford idiots did. And if there were phone calls first, that means it was definitely pre-planned. These idiots need to be condemned outright and not given mealy-mouthed excuses to try and justify their behaviour. Torquay fans would be at Paddington in order to get home. What was a mob of Bees fans doing there, if not looking for trouble?
 

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Does anyone not think that maybe their getting Barnet fans confused with Brentford fans. We're both called the Bees, remember.

Maybe it's sloppy reporting and they've just mixed up the two nick names
 

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imagine going to the effort to organise a fight with people from torquay! it just sounds so funny. other than basil fawlty i can't think of anything about torquay worth fighting for or about!

of course, it's all serious and the club's name is shamed etc.

but for some reason it tickles me, just the effort involved in terrific.
 

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Edmundo said:
The person who was arrested was from Ealing. What do you think?


Still think it's a load of rubbish. Don't believe a word of it.

Anyway, off to the seaside now for some footy and beer. Bringing the brolly as the weather looks iffy.
 

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Edmundo said:
The person who was arrested was from Ealing. What do you think?

It was Chelsea :confused:
 

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Sheerwater Bee said:
Still think it's a load of rubbish. Don't believe a word of it.
:no:

Surprised it look this long to be on here. :fishing:
 

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markbfc said:
:Surprised it look this long to be on here.

Yeah, there's one well known middle aged poster who gets a hard on by glorifying this kind of stuff, you would have thought he would have shown up by now.
 

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Banana said:
I can question their support for the club if I choose too.

As Brickie Chap says, we should identify these scumbags and ban them from Griffin Park*

* except that the Chairman says we should welcome everyone to GP



Ban them all
 

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Edmundo said:
What was a mob of Bees fans doing there, if not looking for trouble?
Maybe they were invited?:idea:

Disgusting, disgraceful, hanging's too good for 'em, blah, blah, blah..........
 

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Twyler said:
Yeah, there's one well known middle aged poster who gets a hard on by glorifying this kind of stuff, you would have thought he would have shown up by now.
Has he voluntarily shown you how glorifying this kind of stuff affects him? :eek:

Or do you gaze at other men's crotches whilst trying to slip football-related fighting into the conversation?:eek: :eek:
 

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Billy Hunt said:
Has he voluntarily shown you how glorifying this kind of stuff affects him?

He certainly makes it obvious he finds football hooliganism a bit of a turn on :fishing:
 

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i think this kind of behaviour is a disgrace to brentford, jokz, i think its good that there is a bit of fighting, its only human, why is everyone worrying about the clubs reputation.

:grey:
 

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How do we know this involved Brentford fans? How do we know that they weren't a bunch of other fans claiming to be Brentford? How do we know that, if it was Brentford fans, that they instigated the trouble?

Those who say that comparing football to the real world is a tired of cliche, but frankly I disagree. The amount of trouble that goes on in most town centres on the weekend is disturbing. The amount of trouble at football is relatively insignificant. You cannot get rid of violence anywhere. There's a limited amount of violence even at baseball games, there's an absolute shed load of it in other countries, it's prevolent anywhere. The fact that it is limited at Brentford should be applauded. I am sure the club and Police would do what they could to keep it this way, because we sure are not Millwall.

The fact that every time an incident happens, surely adds fuel to those who aspire to be a football hooligan? It's not obvious on matchdays, but the most publicity it gets is on here. Unless incidents involve innocent bystanders which is totally wrong, or occur within or the immediate surroundings of the stadium, then I don't see why "trouble" gets discussed so much. It goes on, it will go on. No solutions ever get discussed, and imho, the BYE are not a major threat to the enjoyment of my watching football. If people disagree with that, fair enough, but I can only talk from my own experiences. If it is really that bad at Brentford, then as I have said before, if everyone feels so strongly about it, make a protest to the club, make up a petition or something to show that it will not be tolerated by the vast majority of the fans.
 
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