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Sorry much as it pi**es me of to say so ...unless something cataclismic happens we are going down!!
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Don't ya just hate Division 4
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OK Nocoat I'm a bit pi**ed off at the moment but s**t why did we appoint a guy with no proper track record...other than of course relegating Torquay!
Mind you he speaks highly of his son
Mind you he speaks highly of his son
Les Beeavinu
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Leroy has a better track record than Martin Allen because he has managed to get a side promoted. Your hero Allen was unproven when he joined.
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OK Nocoat I'm a bit pi**ed off at the moment but s**t why did we appoint a guy with no proper track record...other than of course relegating Torquay!
Mind you he speaks highly of his son
He speaks highly of everyone apart from The Bees!!
Maddus Doggus was the best thing that happened to the bees in years, no matter why/how he left he done LOADS for us... he is on a different level than Leroy it is sad to say. IF MA was in charge with the same team, I have no doubt we would be in the top half.. there is just something about him.
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Where do we go from here?
No win in nearly 2 months.
Depressing defeats to Chesterfield, Rotherham and Oldham.
Is it the manager?
Is it the players?
What can we do?
No win in nearly 2 months.
Depressing defeats to Chesterfield, Rotherham and Oldham.
Is it the manager?
Is it the players?
What can we do?
Edmundo
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You can still support Martin Allen if you want to - go to the Hockey Stadium.
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Im not advocating that he goes now, there's no plan B, but how long will the board and the Bees fans give him? We cannot put up with shoddy performances and lineup problems like that again or its hello to League 2.
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Leroy Stay or Go or Give more Time..... You chose
Mods......Please put a poll on this thread as to whether the GPG'ers think Leroy should go now, stay and see it out till the end of the season or give more time to make the Bees a competitive side till christmas.
I go for go now. While we're still in touch with the mid table teams.
Mods......Please put a poll on this thread as to whether the GPG'ers think Leroy should go now, stay and see it out till the end of the season or give more time to make the Bees a competitive side till christmas.
I go for go now. While we're still in touch with the mid table teams.
tobyw
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who would anyone like to see as a replacement (if the board has the balls to get rid of LR)?
tobyw
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I don't know! :rackedwithindecisionsmilie:
can we have a 'give him another couple of months' option?
can we have a 'give him another couple of months' option?
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Hopefully not much longer. It is interesting that the general feeling on the GPG seems to be very anti-Leroy, whereas when Wally did a similar thing (great start, but then sh*t football and dropped like a stone) a large number of GPG'ers were still supporting him. Unfortunately, the table does not lie, and we do not look like winning any time soon.
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He has got until the New Year at least, Downes wasnt kicked out until we had one win in 20 odd games. :sad: 
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Go now.
Shocking team selection today - where was Brooker (who has been excellent all season)? Why have two 18-year olds in the team when there are more experienced players on the bench?
If you're going to play passing football, you need someone who can pass the ball (Pinault?) Having two battlers in the middle and two kids out wide is not a recipe for passing football.
I don't believe the team is motivated enough or physical enough, both of which you have to be in this division. I can't see how the Forest game next Saturday will result in anything other than a thrashing. We need someone who knows what he's doing and knows how to get the best out of players.
I was right when I was one of the first ones to call for Wally's head and I'm afraid I think I'm right now.
Shocking team selection today - where was Brooker (who has been excellent all season)? Why have two 18-year olds in the team when there are more experienced players on the bench?
If you're going to play passing football, you need someone who can pass the ball (Pinault?) Having two battlers in the middle and two kids out wide is not a recipe for passing football.
I don't believe the team is motivated enough or physical enough, both of which you have to be in this division. I can't see how the Forest game next Saturday will result in anything other than a thrashing. We need someone who knows what he's doing and knows how to get the best out of players.
I was right when I was one of the first ones to call for Wally's head and I'm afraid I think I'm right now.
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Les Beeavinu
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Sorry but playing Tomlin and Carde-Andrews was fundamentally wrong. I thought that last week and it's ludicrous to think that kids with barely a handful if games can go to Oldham and get a result.
My thoughts are the following : Everyone apart from the defence (including Griffiths and Osbourne) and Kuffour are not good enough.
to Brooker, Tillen, Wijnhard, Pinault, Skulason, Willock and Fitzgerald. Skulason may be a good player but he's not producing and along with Brooker is taking a sizeable chunk of wages. The rest aren't good enough (although I would reserve judgment on Pinault if a nasty bastard was playing next to him). Every one else is a reserve and shouldn't be near the first time.
Only then can we think about replacements who would be (a big ask) two direct wingers with pace and a Stewart Talbot type midfielder.
Moore shows promise. He must start until Lloyd gets back because no-one else has proved any better. Wijnhard especially.
As for the manager - I don't know where the problem is. If the players don't want to play for him he has to go. However, he has some players like Heywood, Griffiths and Kuffour who clearly do care and put in the effort. perhaps if was allowed to replace the big names like Brooker and Skulason we might get a turn around. But he's on the thinnest of thin ice. And I don't care what people say about Allen - he takes some of the blame for his appalling signings.
Whatever happens, we must stay up - because I have real fears that we will end up adrift like Orient were for 10 years of we don't.
Probably incoherent, rambling and not well though out all, but I that's how I feel..
My thoughts are the following : Everyone apart from the defence (including Griffiths and Osbourne) and Kuffour are not good enough.
to Brooker, Tillen, Wijnhard, Pinault, Skulason, Willock and Fitzgerald. Skulason may be a good player but he's not producing and along with Brooker is taking a sizeable chunk of wages. The rest aren't good enough (although I would reserve judgment on Pinault if a nasty bastard was playing next to him). Every one else is a reserve and shouldn't be near the first time.Only then can we think about replacements who would be (a big ask) two direct wingers with pace and a Stewart Talbot type midfielder.
Moore shows promise. He must start until Lloyd gets back because no-one else has proved any better. Wijnhard especially.
As for the manager - I don't know where the problem is. If the players don't want to play for him he has to go. However, he has some players like Heywood, Griffiths and Kuffour who clearly do care and put in the effort. perhaps if was allowed to replace the big names like Brooker and Skulason we might get a turn around. But he's on the thinnest of thin ice. And I don't care what people say about Allen - he takes some of the blame for his appalling signings.
Whatever happens, we must stay up - because I have real fears that we will end up adrift like Orient were for 10 years of we don't.
Probably incoherent, rambling and not well though out all, but I that's how I feel..
WILTSHIREBEE
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So lets get in more debt to pay leroy off,then more debt to hire someone else,then more debt when the new man wants to bring in some more players.
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Gazza Bee
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Well if we dont have 25 points by Christmas we are in big trouble so I would say until then. We just don't look like we will ever win away again based on the last few performances
WILTSHIREBEE
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Leroy wont be going anywhere coz that would mean the board have to admit they've f*cked up.
We will be in league 2 next year but who cares as long as we survive
We will be in league 2 next year but who cares as long as we survive
Les Beeavinu
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After Christmas if the results don't improve. Nothing a new manager can do about the players until then. Any new manager must be given some flexibility in the transfer market though - the players we have aren't good enough or hungry enough.
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get it right
my post did request 3 choices
thanks though for putting the poll on the thread...... you got something right, hope fatherhood is better than the Bees at the moment........ wait till you have 3 little blighters asking for money, topping up phones etc etc.... thats fatherhood !
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After the outrageous statement re "an ethnic minority Manager" by Brian Burgess recently together with the big 'up' by Greg Dyke at the outset, we can't sack him just yet so prepare yourself for a few more spineless defeats!
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get it right
my post did request 3 choices
thanks though for putting the poll on the thread...... you got something right, hope fatherhood is better than the Bees at the moment........ wait till you have 3 little blighters asking for money, topping up phones etc etc.... thats fatherhood !
Sorry guv
My kiddy may have to go back STILL haven't won a game since Griffin came on the scene
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thing with leaving it till january is, the new manager won't have much time to assess the squad and still be able to get players in who will help get us out of this sh*te. it'll be a rush job. Now would be better........
tobyw
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give him another couple of months then, if we're still not getting results, I'm afraid he'll have to go.
If he does go, will someone else be able to get any more out of this group of players? We sure as hell can't afford to get any new players in, and no one seems to want any of our excess baggage in order for us to free up some cash...
If he does go, will someone else be able to get any more out of this group of players? We sure as hell can't afford to get any new players in, and no one seems to want any of our excess baggage in order for us to free up some cash...
Wee Dave
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My kiddy may have to go back STILL haven't won a game since Griffin came on the scene
And he's not just talking about football
BoroBee
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I hear young MA is doing good things there - let's get him back!
or ...... I hear young Walter Downes is doing good things just down the M4 - let's get him back!
Delete which you prefer ...
wanderer paul
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Nice bit of merging Mr Nocoat, baby Griff not needing his feed yet ?..........
If LR can't get it right now he never will, i gave him time but these last few away games seems like he's got no idea.
If LR can't get it right now he never will, i gave him time but these last few away games seems like he's got no idea.
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IMO It's both, The players are not only not good enough, but they don't care either. apparently Leroy came highly recommended but that means nothing these days. In your post you say depressing defeats but some idiot will tell you it's all not doom and gloom because Chesterfield beat WHU and Rotherham thrashed the mighty Crewe.
Leroy was on a hiding to nothing as soon as he came here. Nobody at the club wanted another MA type here. Leroy as far as I'm concerned has only one option left. It's a road that he has publicly stated he does not want to go down. He needs to raid one of our premiershit neighbours to see if we can have one or two midfield players and a forward that knows how to take a shot at goal.
This for me is our only option, we are stuck with leroy, but he and the board have to move quick. The players we have are not up to the job. it's no good bringing three or four youngsters in, because thats not fair and will do more harm than good. One other option is to put Leroy on gardening leave and let Scott Fitzgerald do the job, he's got the balls for it.
Some of our board of directors should also face some responsibility.
I'm on record as doubting Leroys appointment, and nothing I have seen has changed my mind. I was told I would see some good attacking football, yes I have but I have seen some dismal defending, by all accounts we do not attack away from home.
No doubt the dogooders will tell me to **** off down the road to Fulham, and lets wait till the end of feb:sad: to pass judgement. Well bollox to that I know a sh*t team when I see one, staying in this division is essential as if we slip down now I can see us slipping down the season after. That really will be the end. I can only end by saying if I performed in my work the way ths embarrassment perform, I will be loking for a new job.
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I hear young MA is doing good things there - let's get him back!
or ...... I hear young Walter Downes is doing good things just down the M4 - let's get him back!
Delete which you prefer ...
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Who do people think though?
Tough decisions have to be made, can our board take them?
i wonder what abee's representative on the board will be saying in the next board meeting. let us know abee !!!!
hanworthbee
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I blame the players apart from Kev and Frampton the rest of them dont care enough
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i wonder what abee's representative on the board will be saying in the next board meeting. let us know abee !!!!
Paul USA
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Leroy has stated he wants the England job.
Well do us a favour Leroy, take it now and make sure you close the door behind you.
The players were keen on Fitzgerald to get the job when Allen left - Leroy OUT - Fitzgerald IN
And please do it now before it's to late (Although it may be already)
Well do us a favour Leroy, take it now and make sure you close the door behind you.
The players were keen on Fitzgerald to get the job when Allen left - Leroy OUT - Fitzgerald IN
And please do it now before it's to late (Although it may be already)
tobyw
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don't know about that - Kuffour, Heywood, Griffiths, Masters, Moore, all seem up for it to me
agree though that all the players should be up for it
flowerpower bee
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we can't afford to buy any new players or to sack the manager
so leroy needs to use the loan system to get two or three experienced
players in fast to stop the slide before it's too late
bfc will just have to organise it so that the loaning club covers the wages.
surely leroy can use his contacts at fulham and west ham!?
and our assistant manager who is so widely respected
throughout the game must have contacts also
the board should be having very serious talks with rosenior and griffin
now about what it's going to take to keep us up
so leroy needs to use the loan system to get two or three experienced
players in fast to stop the slide before it's too late
bfc will just have to organise it so that the loaning club covers the wages.
surely leroy can use his contacts at fulham and west ham!?
and our assistant manager who is so widely respected
throughout the game must have contacts also
the board should be having very serious talks with rosenior and griffin
now about what it's going to take to keep us up
wanderer paul
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has he been gagged then?
or does Bee H go on what he thinks is best? !!
Or does BB take it for granted that your guy tows the line with BB,JB,GD et al?
oh well...... looks like LR is going to take into a new dawn....... the conference one !
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Nottingham Forest
Crewe
Cheltenham
Doncaster
Tranmere
Port Vale
Carlisle
Millwall
Chesterfield
Anything less than 12 points from them and it's bye bye Leroy
Crewe
Cheltenham
Doncaster
Tranmere
Port Vale
Carlisle
Millwall
Chesterfield
Anything less than 12 points from them and it's bye bye Leroy
Les Beeavinu
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Whilst I accept that the board may not sack Rosenior, i really hope that this happens. It's no good the board burying their head in the sands, they need to provide a response as well as Leroy.
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