Griffin Park (and individual stands) capacity

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Griffin Park (and individual stands) capacity

I was just wondering what Griffin Park's official capacity is. The figure I often see quoted everywhere is 12,763 but I'm sure I read somewhere that it has increased to over 13,000 with the addition of the Ealing Road end roof.

Also, I would be interested to know the capacity of each individual stand.

If, for whatever reason, Lionel Road doesn't happen, would the back up plan of increasing GP to a 17,000 capacity still go ahead? And if so, which areas would/could possibly be redeveloped?

Cheers if anyone can answer my questions :)
 

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Ask the club. ;)
 

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From the licensing doc it's 12,762. The capacity of Ealing Rd wasn't changed by putting a roof on, but it was increased in time for the Sunderland game when the architects drawing up the roof measured some of the escape widths and noticed they were wider than those quoted in the safety certificate.

Stand by stand it's:

Braemar Rd: 4,297
New Rd: 3,888
Ealing Rd: 2,656
Brook Rd terrace: 1,285
Brook Rd seats: 636

However AFAIK the Braemar Rd figure includes the benches, and by my reckoning there may be anything up to 100 less seats for which we can sell tickets than that capacity figure.
 

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Matty D said:
From the licensing doc it's 12,762. The capacity of Ealing Rd wasn't changed by putting a roof on, but it was increased in time for the Sunderland game when the architects drawing up the roof measured some of the escape widths and noticed they were wider than those quoted in the safety certificate.

Stand by stand it's:

Braemar Rd: 4,297
New Rd: 3,888
Ealing Rd: 2,656
Brook Rd terrace: 1,285
Brook Rd seats: 636

However AFAIK the Braemar Rd figure includes the benches, and by my reckoning there may be anything up to 100 less seats for which we can sell tickets than that capacity figure.
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From what I understood those figures from the document pre-dated the increase in terrace capacity on Ealing Road in early 2006.
 

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brook road terrace is more than that mate, its about 1,800 - when i briefly was a steward in that end we'd (allegedly) cram 2,500 or so birmingham, west brom etc fans in the brook road terrace. ssshhh. :dj:
 

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He was talking about the capacity if the Lincoln fat kid is in attendence.
 

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markbfc said:
From what I understood those figures from the document pre-dated the increase in terrace capacity on Ealing Road in early 2006.
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I see what you mean, AFAIK the whole document hasn't been re-issued since. The Ealing Rd figure in the certificate is 2,216 - an extra 440 was negotiated in Jan 06.
 

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Matty D said:
From the licensing doc it's 12,762. The capacity of Ealing Rd wasn't changed by putting a roof on, but it was increased in time for the Sunderland game when the architects drawing up the roof measured some of the escape widths and noticed they were wider than those quoted in the safety certificate.

Stand by stand it's:

Braemar Rd: 4,297
New Rd: 3,888
Ealing Rd: 2,656
Brook Rd terrace: 1,285
Brook Rd seats: 636

However AFAIK the Braemar Rd figure includes the benches, and by my reckoning there may be anything up to 100 less seats for which we can sell tickets than that capacity figure.
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Cheers for that :sorted:
 

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Whats happening with the extension of New Road.
Thought with the FL fund they were adding boxes and doing work at the back to make it enclosed i.e like Reading / Swansea
 

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Brentford_till_die said:
Whats happening with the extension of New Road.
Thought with the FL fund they were adding boxes and doing work at the back to make it enclosed i.e like Reading / Swansea
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Write a letter of complaint to the club.
 

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Brentford_till_die said:
Whats happening with the extension of New Road.
Thought with the FL fund they were adding boxes and doing work at the back to make it enclosed i.e like Reading / Swansea
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As I recall the business case for the development didn't stack up particularly with Lionel Road back on the map.
 

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38,000 wow must of been roughly---
ealing rd 5,000
new rd 10,000
breamer 7,000
royal oak 16,000:eek:
 

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Gutted to have not been alive when we had the Royal Oak :(. Ealing Rd might be nothing by comparison but at least I can say I've stood at Brentford. Not like the poor sods in 30 years or so who only know all seaters (unless the government see some bloody sense!).

The days of 38,000 and playing in the First Division must have been amazing. Contending with Arsenal for the title of best team in London :sorted: yes please..
 

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fencer/bee said:
38,000 wow must of been roughly---
ealing rd 5,000
new rd 10,000
breamer 7,000
royal oak 16,000:eek:
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Only a guess, but I would say that New Road had a larger capacity than Royal Oak, bearing in mind that it ran along the whole length of the pitch and the first few rows of terracing were below pitch level.The bottom half of Braemar was of course all standing.I would hazard a guess and say

Ealing Road 4,500
Braemar 7,500
Oak 11,500
New Road 14,500 I was at GP as a young 'un on Good Friday 1952 with 36,000 packed in to see the Bees take on Sheffield Wednesday.
 

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Am I right in thinking New Road used to go further back too? With the old structure still there?

I remember standing in New Road, on old milk crates from the local shop, standing on them in the front.
Adults behind us throwing chomps onto the pitch and the ONE (instead of the 4-5 now) safety steward collecting them off the edge of the pitch and giving them to the kids (including myself :D) at the front.

Good ol' times they were.
 

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Jockbee said:
Used to bee 38,000...one time....YOU REDS....:sorted:
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When I first supported the Bees...in the old Div2 ..1949...the average attendance was about 18/21,000...never saw the old place full...YOU REDS...:sorted:
 

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when did new road go to seating?
 

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BEE4EVER i beg to differ, the royal oak went back further than the NEW RD, plus you could get 1000 around the base of the flood light :sorted:
 

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Jockbee said:
When I first supported the Bees...in the old Div2 ..1949...the average attendance was about 18/21,000...never saw the old place full...YOU REDS...:sorted:
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I'm sure there were over 30,000 for the cup match with Burnley in the early 60's. It was a tight squeeze in the New Rd - (3rd round 1965)
 
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brooks said:
I'm sure there were over 30,000 for the cup match with Burnley in the early 60's. It was a tight squeeze in the New Rd - (3rd round 1965)
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Think you are right...we lost ...2-0..I think..I was in B block somewhere...lol
 

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Bee4ever said:
bit tricky though when the floodlights were on the roof of the New and Braemar Road stands roflroflrofl
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oohhhh i dont go back as far as you sir, but in the early 70's we use to sit on the big concrete base and watch the game :sorted:
 

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brooks said:
I'm sure there were over 30,000 for the cup match with Burnley in the early 60's. It was a tight squeeze in the New Rd - (3rd round 1965)
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Spot on sir, I went to GP straight from work arriving at 6pm for a 7.30 kick off, when I got there the queues were already stretching round the ground.It certainly was tight in New Road. Jock bee is right, Bees did lose 2-0
 

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Bee4ever said:
bit tricky though when the floodlights were on the roof of the New and Braemar Road stands roflroflrofl
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I can recall those lights, and remember thinking at the time that they were unusual because other grounds already had towers. I was too young to go to midweek games, so only saw them come on for Saturday matches.

I don't remember any problems as a spectator, but they must have been quite distracting to the players when the ball went over head height. Maybe we didn't play a long-ball game then. Or perhaps they were so dim it didn't matter (the lights not the players).
 

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They are death traps if not managed correctly. People stand in their thousands at football all over the world. And in Britain, standing is allowed in all football below the top 2 divisions, rugby, massive concerts. This is an issue I am passionate about and I am all for safe standing terraces at all levels of football.

Look at the South Stand in Dortmund. 25,000 capacity single tiered terrace. Every domestic game, people can stand with little to no problems. But for the ridiculous UEFA and FIFA laws, the terrace can be easily converted into an all-seater stand.

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Ambrose_1889 said:
They are death traps if not managed correctly. People stand in their thousands at football all over the world. And in Britain, standing is allowed in all football below the top 2 divisions, rugby, massive concerts. This is an issue I am passionate about and I am all for safe standing terraces at all levels of football.

Look at the South Stand in Dortmund. 25,000 capacity single tiered terrace. Every domestic game, people can stand with little to no problems. But for the ridiculous UEFA and FIFA laws, the terrace can be easily converted into an all-seater stand.

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Football grounds should all have a section for people who WISH to stand
 

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The New Road stand used to go back above the 'concourse' but was wooden so had to go after the Taylor report. In the late 60's early 70's we used to go in the Royal Oak end, my dad left me and my mates at the front and he would walk round and stand on the half way line of the New Road. Where he used to stand is now the back of the stand - Oh happy days. The Oak was a brilliant stand and the feeling as you walked up the steps and out into the middle of the stand was unbelivable
 

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Ambrose_1889 said:
They are death traps if not managed correctly. People stand in their thousands at football all over the world. And in Britain, standing is allowed in all football below the top 2 divisions, rugby, massive concerts. This is an issue I am passionate about and I am all for safe standing terraces at all levels of football.

Look at the South Stand in Dortmund. 25,000 capacity single tiered terrace. Every domestic game, people can stand with little to no problems. But for the ridiculous UEFA and FIFA laws, the terrace can be easily converted into an all-seater stand.
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It's not just about standing, but the condition of most stadiums, including Griffin Park was simply unacceptably dangerous. There were no disasters at GP, but only through luck and perhaps the fact that in the 1970s and 1980s we never had a large enough attendance to seriously test it out.
 

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Shirley Bee said:
I can recall those lights, and remember thinking at the time that they were unusual because other grounds already had towers. I was too young to go to midweek games, so only saw them come on for Saturday matches.

I don't remember any problems as a spectator, but they must have been quite distracting to the players when the ball went over head height. Maybe we didn't play a long-ball game then. Or perhaps they were so dim it didn't matter (the lights not the players).
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The roof lights were really quite poor.My Grandad took me to see the "switch on" of those lights, a friendly game v Chelsea in 1954,he had been a regular supporter for over 50 years then,but never went to another game where lights were used as he said he couldn't see the game properly (mind you,the FA did not permit the use of floodlights for league games until 1956)
 

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brooks said:
I'm sure there were over 30,000 for the cup match with Burnley in the early 60's. It was a tight squeeze in the New Rd - (3rd round 1965)
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34000 I believe it was a replay as we had drawn 1-1 up there and Burnley were like top 2/3 in the old Div 1

I was squeezed in the Royal Oak
 

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Bee4ever said:
Only a guess, but I would say that New Road had a larger capacity than Royal Oak, bearing in mind that it ran along the whole length of the pitch and the first few rows of terracing were below pitch level.The bottom half of Braemar was of course all standing.I would hazard a guess and say

Ealing Road 4,500
Braemar 7,500
Oak 11,500
New Road 14,500 I was at GP as a young 'un on Good Friday 1952 with 36,000 packed in to see the Bees take on Sheffield Wednesday.
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Would agree in general with this you can near enough work it out if it takes 3.888 sitting double that for standing near enough 8 000 it used to go right back to where the steelwork is so you can add on another 3/4000 making roughly 12k, then of course the steps were not so steep plus another 2k say.

Then of course there was the grand entrance/exit way in the corner with Brook Rdwhere easily another 2000 could stand.
 

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Edmundo said:
It's not just about standing, but the condition of most stadiums, including Griffin Park was simply unacceptably dangerous. There were no disasters at GP, but only through luck and perhaps the fact that in the 1970s and 1980s we never had a large enough attendance to seriously test it out.
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Last week I went to the Maksimir Stadium in Croatia to see Dinamo Zagreb play Sparta Prague in the UEFA Cup. The stadium is the one where England beat Croatia a couple of weeks back. There was a crowd of 15,000 on the night I was there in a stadium with a capacity in excess of 35,000 and I just can't imagine what it must be like with a full capacity in attendance. The condition of the exits from the stand I was in are a million miles from what we see in this country and although the main stand for the home fans is all-seater, no-one sits down and the crowd 'bounce' throughout the game.

It does make you wonder just how any standards of consistency are applied across Europe?
 

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Edmundo said:
It's not just about standing, but the condition of most stadiums, including Griffin Park was simply unacceptably dangerous. There were no disasters at GP, but only through luck and perhaps the fact that in the 1970s and 1980s we never had a large enough attendance to seriously test it out.
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GP was pretty well tested in the 30s/40s when we had 30k plus attendances. Of course there were much larger exit routes through the Ealing Rd and Brook Road.

I don't believe standing terraces have anything to do with safety problems, Hillsborough, Bradford and Glasgow Rangers disasters were mainly about the exits..or lack of them.
 

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Recall going to some reserve games on a sat. afternoon when the first XI played away...at HT they would announce the score at the away game for us...recall one very well.. it went ..Spurs 1 Brentford 1..in fact I think that was the final score as well.....YOU REDS....:sorted:
 

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gashbee said:
I think it was 1996-97 season. :computer:
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I was obviously very engrossed in the on the pitch action then, having gone for 2 seasons before that and having absolutely no recollection of standing other than the 2 ends... :eek: :nono: lol
 

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Edmundo said:
I think the various stadium disasters like Valley Parade and Hillsborough forced the authorities to realise that football stadia were death traps.
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Spot on Ed,although we did have our own fire in the Braemer road stand. Thank goodness the ground was empty at the time.
 
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