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Did OK in the first half, attacked well and looked threatening every time we went forward.

Second half was entirely different and we looked dreadful for most of the 45 minutes. Bristol Rovers will consider themselves unlucky not to get at least a point.
 

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Brentford Bob said:
Did OK in the first half, attacked well and looked threatening every time we went forward.

Second half was entirely different and we looked dreadful for most of the 45 minutes. Bristol Rovers will consider themselves unlucky not to get at least a point.
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I don't think we looked dreadful at all
 

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Excellent first half. We were in control and played well. Leon was v good. Second half they came at us and we couldnt cope. Poor clearing, gave it straight back and got attacked again and again. Bristol were unlucky not to get a point.
Forster didnt really say much in the second half, he just watched!
Still doing really well. Much more entertaining than under scott. I remember when we used to play a whole half without a shot at goal. Much rather have what we have got now. KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK BOYS. WEMBLEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEY
 

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Things must be really looking up as this is one of the few times we have beaten a "bottom feeder". BBC reckons Lee saved our bacon (or eggs).:)
 

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Played well in patches in the first half, one faboulous passing move but Myles dallied too long on the cross.

2nd half like Tuesday we wilted and seemed to want to make a huge F up and gift them a goal, can count ourselves lucky to have gained 6 points this week instead of a deserved 2

I thought Myles and Sam were dangerous but we were impotent upfront, no pace no movement, would rather have seen Bignall come on for either of CM or GA and it took me about 2 minutes to realise Byrne won't make it at Spurs.

Still much happier with how we are playing, some lovely passing moves always involving Saunders.

Was pleased to see Legge go off as he worries me bigtime when he isn't simply winning headers and it forces KO to play on the left of the centre.

If only we had a reliable goalscorer
 

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Should have been home and dry at half time after 45 mibs of good passing football but we lack a goal threat.
Second half they raised their game and seemed to have large amount of possession and far more decent chances but also lacked killer instinct. Lee did well on a couple of occasions and they can feel a little hard done by but think they're in big trouble.
All in all good three points, Neilsen looked
good at right back, Sammy looks very good on the ball and Myles flitted in and out.
I'd get Bostock back and play him centre mid and keep lsearching for a forward to play off GA.
I like Hoskins and would be happy to see him here but do glad we didn't consider Howe who was being touted by some on the who would you like to sign thread a while back, looked like he's mover up to super heavy division since last seen at GP.
 

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Good 45 minutes. Poorer 2nd 45. But you cannot complain when we're trying to play football. It's good to watch. Lee for MOM me though :sorted:
 

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First 25 mins we played attacking , passing football. Myles was scaring the life out of their RB. We got the penalty, Alexander blasted it down the middle 1-0. Then for some reason we stopped playing and let them back in. Second half they came out and took control, Rene Howe was getting the better of Karleigh and Legge was having a nightmare. Nicky then made a strange subsistution taking off Beano and bring on O'Connor, IMO it sent out a signal that we don't want to try and score another goal, O'Connor was so far off the pace.....dreadful decision Nicky. However he reedemed him self by taking off Legge and bringing on Pim, showed he's not afraid to make big decisions, well done Nicky.
Overall we were lucky, Rovers deserved a point at least.
Positives:
Robbie Neilson- our best right back
Tourmani - our best centre midfielder
Richard Lee - saved our bacon today

I really think Nicky needs to change the front 2 pairing for Tuesday ???
 

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Brentford did very well to win a very tough game played in strength sapping conditions on a sodden pitch.

They played football when they could, tore Rovers apart for the first 20 minutes then defended well, kept their shape and discipline and held on for 3 crucial points.

Rovers were fighting for their lives and had 3 men booked before the break as they tried to stay in the match.

Weston ran riot early on forcing 2 good saves from the massive Logan in goal and Legge's scrambled goal from a corner was disallowed before Alexander's perfect through ball sent Weston careering through on his own before he was felled by the keeper.

There was no argument about who took the penalty and Alexander put his foot through the ball which whizzed in.

Rovers had chances with Lee foiling Hoskins and the dangerous striker volleying just over but Alexander should have given us a 2 goal breathing space just before the break when his close range header from a wonderful Weston cross was brilliantly saved.

Saunders forced a save early in the second half with a deflected shot but Rovers dominated for long spells and Lee saved twice from Hoskins, once brilliantly and the forward somehow missed a cross with the goal gaping.

We kept our shape with the back four working hard and sticking to their task and Saunders always gave us an outlet when we regained possession.

NF got it totally right today.

KO'C replaced Bean when we were under the cosh and did his normal efficient job in front of the back 4. Legge was surprisingly replaced by Pim halfway through the 2nd half. Howe was troubling him and Pim looked solid and strong.

Nathan Byrne came on for his debut with 15 minutes to go replacing a tiring Weston and looked a real player. Small with a low centre of gravity he went wide right, gave the ball away a couple of times in dangerous positions but looked dangerous going forward and nearly marked his debut with a late goal when Logan just fell on his shot after a mazy dribble.

He is really one to watch and reminds me of the young lad from Manchester United on loan at Bury (name forgotten) who has greatly impressed.

This was a good 3 points after a real test from a big side that bullied us whenever they could.

It seems strange to say this about Brentford but we are really changing our spots.

Some of the football today was excellent, one or two touches and accurate short passing.

It was great to win but I also would not have been too disappointed if we had drawn as we tried to play in the right way ie football when ever possible, tight organisation and everybody playing for the team when the ball is lost.

We pressed the ball very well and our ball retention is improving.

We are a work in progress but believe me we are becoming a team worth watching again.

The announced attendance was just under 6,000, even giving 900 or so from Bristol, perhaps the message is slowly getting out there that ther is some entertainment on offer at Griffin park again.
 
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The pitch isn't helping IMO. The players looked knackered, even Charlie which is very rare. Tues gonna be a toughy, guess thats why we have a large squad.
Great battling preformance tho, a few scary moments but the 3pts is what matters.
The worrying part now, while the team spirit is looking on the up what is happening to the supporters spirits. Again 1 up and no atmosphere? Very strange and such ashame. GP used to be rocking and away teams used to not enjoy playing at our place.
 

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Well what do you make of a game like that. Probably best place to start is the League table which shows us with 3 more points and now closer to the play-off places than the relegation places ! 10 points behind MK Dons (who we played off the park a couple of weeks ago with 3 games in hand ). So it is game on for the rest of the season.. If only. We have no chance of reaching the play offs if we play like that tbh. I can't understand NLB saying we weren't dreadful. Must have seen a different game to me. Second half at least.

First 20/25 minutes we were exceptional. Probably one of the best spells of football I've seen at home this year. We exploited gaps down the left wing in particular and Myles looked as though he was going to have a field day. Capped off by the penalty which whilst deserved on the run of play looked to me like it might have been a harsh one - will have to check the replay.

Last 20 mins of the first half though what happened. I'm not sure if we started swapping wingers or what but Rovers suddenly came alive and were by far the better team in that period. We could still have gone 2-0 up before the break though with Gary A missing what seemed a decent chance from an excellent Weston cross. Good save by the keeper to be fair and he did take the penalty very well. He was up front on his own as well as Charlie was totally anonymous in the first half.

Second half, I hoped we might come out and start as we had the first half. It was not to be and we were battered for the whole 45 minutes. So many players in our team hid that it was untrue. I really don't know how Charlie Mac stayed on for 90 minutes. That was arguably the most unproductive display by a Brentford striker I have ever seen. (OK OK not Murray Jones style but still dreadful) The defender marking him must have thought it was his day off. Pretty surprised at Forster with that to be honest. The Legge/Pim sub was also strange. Maybe an injury but otherwise although the defence was under the cosh it was more due to the inept play in front of them that the ball kept coming back. Of the two I would have said Karleigh was having the bigger mare.

In centre midfield Bean was well off the pace today and arguably deserved to be taken off but KOC as replacement didn't improve things. He showed us why he has been part of the problem this year rather than part of the solution with a succession of negative back passes often putting others into trouble. Very disappointed to see him reintroduced into midfield and I hope it is a one off. Dave was also not good today and Saunders maybe wandered about too much without creating much.
I thought the introduction of Byrne for Weston was wrong. True, Myles was having a poor game by that stage - he had gone from worldbeater to spectator in the space of half an hour earlier but it was Charlie that was crying out to be replaced with Grabban or Bignall or Simpson. The introduction of Byrne was not appropriate at the time and his first two contributions were to lose the ball in bad areas. He later showed a bit of attacking flair without any associated end product. Didn't look first team material to me.

I shall be interested to see Nick Forsters post match analysis of today. So far he has had little to do other than pat his team verbally on the back "the boys done well". Today was different and I would say things need to be shaken up a bit in midfield (Reed?) and up front (dropping Charlie) if we are going to genuinely try for that play off place.

Neilson man of the match for me. He stuck to his task well and was an attacking threat as well as sound defensively, although will no doubt have to make way for King Kev now he is fit.
 

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1st half was good, we dominated the game (especially first 30 mins) and probably should've been more than 1 up, although the penalty looked very soft after Myles F**ked up a one-on-one.

2nd half we were put under a lot of pressure, but still looked dangerous going forward. Our defensive line kept dropping but we kept them out, only just though!

Starting from the back;

Lee had a very good game and commanded the area very well, made 1 or 2 very very good saves, contender for MOM.

Neilson had a much better game today and he looks very solid and a good tackler. Also has a long throw which is quite helpul. Another contender for MOM

Osborne didn't have his best today, although was put under a lot of pressure by Legge. Their striker had him in his pocket for large parts though.

Legge had a super first half, but he never really excelled in the second half. Surprised he was taken off though and he didn't look over the moon about it.

Woodman was very good today and attacked more than usual. Solid at the back, and back to his best after his shoddy performance on Tuesday.

Saunders was again our talisman. He creates so much for the side and despite his shot that went very high and wide at the BR end, he had a very good game. Different player under Forster.

Dave was my MOM. Bossed the midfield, especially in the first half and he was spreading play very nicely.

Bean was again good in the first half but never looked the same after the break, right decision to take him off.

Weston took on his man a couple of times but wasn't anywhere near his best. Final ball was dreadful and seemed to lack a bit of pace. Won a soft penalty after he messed up his one-on-one. Was rightly taken off in the second half.

Alexander won a lot of balls and took a very confident penalty and could've had another in the second half. In the last 20 minutes he could hardly run though!

Macdonald worked as hard as ever but the underlining factor is that he lacks pace and height and doesn't really score enough goals. Not bad though.

Overall, some would say a lucky 3 points, but the amount of times we have come away with the situation the other way round, I think we deserve that :sorted:

SB :)
 

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We wern't great after the first 25 mins but i'll take the three points all day.
Were trying to do the right things and play the right way and i for one believe it is a work in progress and much better that the sh*te Scott was serving up.
In patches we play some great stuff and i believe it will only get better.
One thing though i do hope O'connor doesn't get a place back in midfield just not good enough in the middle of the park.
 

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Looked like a wonder save from Alexander's header to keep it 1-0 at HT. 3 more points and on we go, Rovers fought like mad and unlucky but there you go.
More of the same on Tuesday please.
 
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Well what do you make of a game like that. Probably best place to start is the League table which shows us with 3 more points and now closer to the play-off places than the relegation places ! 10 points behind MK Dons (who we played off the park a couple of weeks ago with 3 games in hand ). So it is game on for the rest of the season.. If only. We have no chance of reaching the play offs if we play like that tbh. I can't understand NLB saying we weren't dreadful. Must have seen a different game to me. Second half at least.

First 20/25 minutes we were exceptional. Probably one of the best spells of football I've seen at home this year. We exploited gaps down the left wing in particular and Myles looked as though he was going to have a field day. Capped off by the penalty which whilst deserved on the run of play looked to me like it might have been a harsh one - will have to check the replay.

Last 20 mins of the first half though what happened. I'm not sure if we started swapping wingers or what but Rovers suddenly came alive and were by far the better team in that period. We could still have gone 2-0 up before the break though with Gary A missing what seemed a decent chance from an excellent Weston cross. Good save by the keeper to be fair and he did take the penalty very well. He was up front on his own as well as Charlie was totally anonymous in the first half.

Second half, I hoped we might come out and start as we had the first half. It was not to be and we were battered for the whole 45 minutes. So many players in our team hid that it was untrue. I really don't know how Charlie Mac stayed on for 90 minutes. That was arguably the most unproductive display by a Brentford striker I have ever seen. (OK OK not Murray Jones style but still dreadful) The defender marking him must have thought it was his day off. Pretty surprised at Forster with that to be honest. The Legge/Pim sub was also strange. Maybe an injury but otherwise although the defence was under the cosh it was more due to the inept play in front of them that the ball kept coming back. Of the two I would have said Karleigh was having the bigger mare.

In centre midfield Bean was well off the pace today and arguably deserved to be taken off but KOC as replacement didn't improve things. He showed us why he has been part of the problem this year rather than part of the solution with a succession of negative back passes often putting others into trouble. Very disappointed to see him reintroduced into midfield and I hope it is a one off. Dave was also not good today and Saunders maybe wandered about too much without creating much.
I thought the introduction of Byrne for Weston was wrong. True, Myles was having a poor game by that stage - he had gone from worldbeater to spectator in the space of half an hour earlier but it was Charlie that was crying out to be replaced with Grabban or Bignall or Simpson. The introduction of Byrne was not appropriate at the time and his first two contributions were to lose the ball in bad areas. He later showed a bit of attacking flair without any associated end product. Didn't look first team material to me.

I shall be interested to see Nick Forsters post match analysis of today. So far he has had little to do other than pat his team verbally on the back "the boys done well". Today was different and I would say things need to be shaken up a bit in midfield (Reed?) and up front (dropping Charlie) if we are going to genuinely try for that play off place.

Neilson man of the match for me. He stuck to his task well and was an attacking threat as well as sound defensively, although will no doubt have to make way for King Kev now he is fit.
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I think you and several others have been very harsh about today.

Why should we dominate teams for 90 minutes, we have no divine right and we came up against a team fighting for its life who really put in a good shift for their manager and supporters.

We asre changing the way we play and approach games and I don't think we could have done anything more than we have since NF took over.

We cannot become world beaters overnight but what I love is that we try and play more football, we try and keep hold of the ball better and longer, we are not afraid to play the ball short and to feet and we have stopped giving away daft, unspeakable goals like we were doing throughout January.

Saunders, Diagouraga and Weston have looked like men who have had the shackles removed, Neilson is a player and I thought Byrne looked promising - can you imagine a titch like him who makes jockeys look like giants getting a look in under the previous regime? I can't.

Yes there is much to do and I am not looking through rose tinted glasses. We are a central midfielder light and we need 2 new strikers who will cost real money.

But you know what I am a damn sight happier now than I was a month ago and I think the squad and NF deserve to be cut a little slack given what they have accomplished to date - 4 wins and a draw and a pleasing style of football without forgetting the basics of organisation, pressing and good solid defending.
 

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i cant understand how some on here still continually criticise the team and once again THEYVE WON.......and yes they won trying to PLAY FOOTBALL.....yes we give the ball away a bit too much but they are trying to play the right way and theyre getting the results.....some on here really should just enjoy the result and the fact that we're nearer the play offs than relagation ;) ibleedin wingers on here....jesus wept :(

anyway for the record, thought it was decent game and rovers were a much better side in the 2nd half.......they deserved at least a point but we're finally getting that bit of luck.........still could have finished it off in the last 10mins....Lee MOM today but also impressed with neillson......got a bit of class about him ;)

onwards and upwards :)
 

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I'm happy to cut them slack and I fully agree it is better now. It is no good however papering over the cracks and things like the guaranteed place that KOC has irritate me tbh. I fully expect him to be reintroduced into the starting 11 on Tuesday (either at Right back at the expense of arguably our MOM today) or in midfield a position where his style of play inhibits our tempo.

I suppose it depends on whether we are happy to sit in mid table of go for it. I still think there is an outside chance of 6th place for any team down as far as us who puts a decent run in.

I'm not devastated by todays display but I thought we were poor for 70 minutes and good for 20 which isn't the right balance IMHO.

If the players are as honest as they were after tuesday they will give themselves 4 and a half out of 10.
 

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Agree with JT of BFC post. I think Nicky needs to draw breath now and have a close look at team selection for Tuesday night. We have a squad, let's use some of them.

Pim in for legge
Grabban in for Charlie
and Beano back with Dave, they showed what they can do against Tranmere
and keeps today's man on the match Robbie Neilson at RB
 

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I was a bit miffed by no Grabban action today, enjoyable game with football being played by both sides, the young kid looked like a young kid...
There was more than enough entertainment to keep most of us happy today, wasn't there?
 

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There was more than enough entertainment to keep most of us happy today, wasn't there?
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It would seem not. :grey:

I enjoyed the game, got a bit hairy a few times in the second half - Rovers threw a lot of men forward - but we stuck at it and had a few chances of our own.

I particularly enjoyed Alexander's pass to put Myles through on goal, which led to the penalty, and another Alexander pass over his shoulder out to the right wing.

Neilson was much more impressive today, Saunders was good again, good performances from Lee and Osborne and Woodman, Legge had a few 'wobbles' but made some vital blocks. Myles was alright but the pitch wasn't suited to his game (or Byrne's), Dave and Bean did well but were forced back in the second half with Bean getting a bit lost before he was subbed. O'Connor did a good job when he came on. Alexander and Charlie worked very hard as usual - can't fault their efforts.................. ref was a weirdo. :thetruth:
 
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A very hard fought three points today. Like others have said, we started brilliantly and on another day could've been three goals to the good with all three points all but safe by mid way through the first half. Rovers started to get a foothold in the game towards the end of the first half and this continued in the second, with Hoskins especially very impressive and proving difficult to deal with.

Although there were a couple of nervy moments at the back and Lee make a couple of smart stops, I thought for the most part we defended extremely well. The biggest problem was that Charlie and Gary tired badly and Dave again went off the boil meaning that we struggled to retain possession further up the field. On an energy sapping pitch, Saunders and Myles also wilted somewhat and with Rovers playing five or six up front at times, the defense faced one of the toughest tests they've had recently.

I wasn't totally convinced that Nicky's substitutions helped us today. Albeit Pim for Legge was fine, I thought it was Dave and not Marcus who should've been replaced and whilst Kev did pretty well when he came on, he looked a little rusty after his enforced absence. Likewise, with Charlie and Gary becoming less effective as the game wore on, I'd liked to have seen either Bignall or Grabban brought on for either one to give Rovers, who'd effectively gone to a back three, something to keep them occupied and to allow us to take some of the pressure off the defense.

I don't agree at all with the suggestion by some that either or both of Charlie and Gary are not good enough. They're both fine IMO and their respective goal returns thus far this season are not to be sniffed at. We're not able to shop in the same market as you'd find the Jordan Rhodes and Mackail-Smiths of this world and I think that some forget that 20+ goals a season strikers fall into this category. The biggest problem IMO is that both are spending too many minutes on the pitch and not being replaced when fatigue sets in. The introduction of either Grabban or Bignall would've given us fresh impetus and with it having also been a criticism of Scott, I'd like to see Nicky more pro-active in this respect.

Other than that, no complaints at all. Rovers played like a team that belied their League position and it's another important three points to leave us ever closer to the magic 50 points mark. Still plenty of room for improvement but the side is evolving and we're playing some lovely football in parts. We've also got our resilience back and we'll be a difficult side for anyone to beat at the moment.
 

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Happy to take an Ugly 1 0. Started well but as the game went on we sat far too deep and invited them on too much. That would have been fine 2 or 3 up but was always worried second half. Great penalty by alexander and it was a pleasure to see all the worzels getting so worked up by it. GOOD TIMES!!!!!!!
 

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I was a bit miffed by no Grabban action today, enjoyable game with football being played by both sides, the young kid looked like a young kid...
There was more than enough entertainment to keep most of us happy today, wasn't there?
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I thought it was so much better than the Yeovil game in terms of entertainment. There were periods of decent passing football and here's hoping that whoever the new Manager may be he sets out teams to play in the same style.
football and we try to play football the right way
 

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Played very very well first half and deserved the lead, Legge carried KO in the first half he looked half asleep, Woodman solid as always and Neilson looked very good.
Toumani very good again. Saunders and Weston caused them problems but i do question there right back are you sure hes a proffessional player?
Alexander held and battled well, CM didn't have his best game.
Why did we sit back in the second half?

Oh well 3 points at the end of the day
 

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I was happy with our approach today and I give Brizzle credit too as they made it an entertaining game. I think it's time to introduce a new strike partnership up front as we lack a cutting edge there and our early pressure might have brought another goal with a bit more pace and guile. We lack a threat up front at the mo. I think Charlie needs to be rested and I'd be inclined to pair Simpson with either Grabban or Bignall. I hope that Kev isn't retained in midfield [ nor should he replace Neilson] as I prefer Marcus but I'd like to see Spills in midfield with Dave. No Spills again today. I'm sure something has gone off and maybe he's being disciplined. If that's right, that's the way to deal with it [ quietly and kept inside the club].
 

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The main point is that it was not bad entertainment, we got 3 points against a physical team that were working harder and harder to get something from the game as it progressed. Disappointing that we seemed to let them come at us in the second half, rather than get a second goal that would have surely killed them off - but in the end very happy with that result. I thought that the atmosphere was improved also. Notts County on Tuesday is going to be an interesting one.
 

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In the post-match press conference Nicky Forster said that Legge was carrying an injury, hence him being substituted. Read had incurred another niggling knock, hence him not being in the squad today, and he has gone back to Sunderland for assesment etc. Could be out for 10 days. Byrne had , apparently, been terrific in training, and had also impressed with his enthusiasm, and I guess this played a major part in Nicky's decision to bring him on.
 

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Main question is: do we look like relegation fodder at the moment?
 

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I really enjoyed today, which is more than be said for the majority of home games this season. First twenty was fantastic, and yes we lost our way in the second half and it got a bit scrappy, but we still counter attacked them. Leon was a collossus when they started getting on top of us in the first half, and I'm surprised they didn't have to change the ball earlier the way he was heading them. On the downside, the communication across all the back 4 and Richard Lee was poor and made us look shaky. Also I wish Lee would come and claim a few more crosses and corners; however he does everything else so well, so I'm certainly not going to slag him for it. All in all a good afternoon. String a few more wins together, and the play offs could be within reach. Whatever happens, if we keep trying to play, then at least we can enjoy our football again.
 

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Three points is three points.

Weston scared the sh*t out of them by running at them. When he stopped doing this, around the same time we swapped him to right we lost an outlet.

Neilson and Lee were our best players for me, both CBs had a dodgy game, Mac was quiet too.

Saunders adds some guile but also makes our shape look terrible if we are under pressure. There were times we needed him to stay right today, Nicky needs to look at this and remedy it when we need some shape and stability

New lad Byrne carried the ball well when others looked tired but lost it stupidly at times. But he is here to learn and offered something we don't already have

Saunders adds some
 

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I think if memory serves me that is first win against rovers for 17 years?
 

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Ignore the last half sentence from me, I'm on the mobile and can't delete it. Ah nah
 

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So if we're upwardly mobile/top 10 material, then I am still baffled as to why, with the complete transformation from relegation fodder to where we are now, Forster has not been allowed to take charge of the club until the end of the season. If we are playing better quality football, the confidence is flowing, and the spirit is there to be able to grind out results, then surely any disruption could potentially harm the team? At least, the longer Forster is in the role and we are playing with confidence, then he must remain in the job?
 

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It seems as though Brentford and Bristol Rovers have exchanged their playing styles from what I've been used to over the last few seasons. The pressure game leading to lots of throw-ins, corners and free-kicks has passed to the team from the west country, whilst intelligent pass and move football has begun to take root at Griffin Park. Some fo the football Bees played in the first half was a joy to watch and the penalty justified. The foul by the keeper got the deserved yellow card, yet the custodian did his best to have it upgraded to a red with some ridiculous ranting at the officials. Alexander buried the pen and even if the keeper had got behind it, he'd have ended up in the back of the net with the ball. Brilliant save to deny our new skipper a second yet Rovers long ball game became more of a threat as the game wore on.

Second half saw Rovers up the pace and whilst they had lots of crosses and almost half-chances, never really threaten, with the exception of one super save by Lee to deny a cross-shot by Hoskins. The introduction of O'Connor, though designed the steady the ship, only seemed to invite more pressure with sideways and back passes putting Bees' players under pressure when not necessary. Byrne showed himself to be a threat on the counter attack, but on a couple of occasions gave the ball away when a simple and progressive pass was available, exposing the Bees rear-guard.

For all their aerial and physical assault, Rovers couldn't breach our goal and another 3 points were in the bag. In truth, the visitors could've shared the spoils, but it wasn't to be.

Man of the match? Hmmmmmm, I've not mentioned him in my brief analysis, but Saunders again for pulling the strings and making us play football :sorted:
 

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A very..very.. lucky win...( i guess this is the home equivilent of the exeter away league match)..how we managed to walk away with 3pts i dont know , who cares play-offs here we come :worm: :sorted:

But 1st things 1st, what was wrong with the programme? at halftime i saw quite a few people exchanging theirs with the sellers :confused:

As for the match, we dominated for the first 30 odd mins , lots of nice passing on the floor we looked dangerous (we looked like a team in the top 6!!), Myles probably dived for the penalty (shall have to check the highlights) but whatever happened he seemed to go into his shell after the incident maybe he was feeling guilty who knows, he couldn't get past his man for love nor money.

Alexander forced their keeper into a brilliant save but other than that , we just let Rovers back into the game

Our defence was looking shaky (still kept a clean sheet though!) one day the luck will run out and Lee wont be able to save them , Rovers' tactic was to target Legge making him chase balls played over him /put him under pressure.

Nicky made a very good decision to take him off and bring Pim on, another good subbstitution was taking Bean off who seemed to vanish from the pitch. I like the fact we are now making substitutions early in the match !

The pitch / weather did play it's part in the match, Charlie miss kicking the ball in the penalty area, Byrne getting the ball stuck between his feet stopping him from properly having a go at his man.

I did not enjoy the second half (well my ticker didn't), as it felt Rovers were going to score with nearly every ball put into our box, how many times did the ball go across our goal waiting for a Rovers player to tap it in! Whenever we cleared the ball it nearly always went to a Rovers player to start the attack all over again.

We had a few breakaways towards the end of the match Logan again saving from Byrne, but we did enough to hang on.

Saw lots of new faces in the ground especially kids :sorted: i think they would have liked what they saw.

Overall a good 3pts , not sure if we will get away with doing the same on tuesday..
 

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Has Forster said he won't play anymore then? Why can't he play up front on Tue against Notts County with Alexander or Bignall?

As regards finding 2 new strikers that's unlikely for both financial reasons and Macdonald & Alexander scoring goals and being contracted. I don't think they're that bad in my opinion.
 

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First half did well probably deserved to be 2-0 up, but second half was poor from our perspective and BR unlucky not to get a point. Worst performance from Legge for sometime pulled all over the place by an excellent Hoskins. IMO Saunders and Lee were our best players, Byrne looked promising and Neilson getting better with every game. If we were playing a better team than BR I am sure we would have lost and confirms to me we dont have the players or manager to succeed in this division. We are clearly a mid table team, without consistency, and no goal threat with Charlie especially going absent for long periods. Overall a good game to watch and will obviously take the 3 points, but the luck was on our side today make no mistake. If we are really serious about the Championship the new manager coming in will need to make wholesale changes for as we currently stand we are not good enough for the next level.
 

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BournemouthBee said:
Has Forster said he won't play anymore then? Why can't he play up front on Tue against Notts County with Alexander or Bignall?

As regards finding 2 new strikers that's unlikely for both financial reasons and Macdonald & Alexander scoring goals and being contracted. I don't think they're that bad in my opinion.
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They're playing ok but without enough end product as the goals for column proves. I'd keep GA and try to get someone else to play off him
 

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GEOFFBEE said:
In the post-match press conference Nicky Forster said that Legge was carrying an injury, hence him being substituted. Read had incurred another niggling knock, hence him not being in the squad today, and he has gone back to Sunderland for assesment etc. Could be out for 10 days. Byrne had , apparently, been terrific in training, and had also impressed with his enthusiasm, and I guess this played a major part in Nicky's decision to bring him on.
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If Legge was carrying an injury before the game he should not have started imo, was our worse player and by his standards had a bad game.
 

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North London Bee said:
I think you and several others have been very harsh about today.

Why should we dominate teams for 90 minutes, we have no divine right and we came up against a team fighting for its life who really put in a good shift for their manager and supporters.

We asre changing the way we play and approach games and I don't think we could have done anything more than we have since NF took over.

We cannot become world beaters overnight but what I love is that we try and play more football, we try and keep hold of the ball better and longer, we are not afraid to play the ball short and to feet and we have stopped giving away daft, unspeakable goals like we were doing throughout January.

Saunders, Diagouraga and Weston have looked like men who have had the shackles removed, Neilson is a player and I thought Byrne looked promising - can you imagine a titch like him who makes jockeys look like giants getting a look in under the previous regime? I can't.

Yes there is much to do and I am not looking through rose tinted glasses. We are a central midfielder light and we need 2 new strikers who will cost real money.

But you know what I am a damn sight happier now than I was a month ago and I think the squad and NF deserve to be cut a little slack given what they have accomplished to date - 4 wins and a draw and a pleasing style of football without forgetting the basics of organisation, pressing and good solid defending.
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Thank God NLB,for a decent report after reading the above I was going to cut my wrists,it really is ruddy depressing reading some of the stuff on here.:mad:
Johnny Rainford once said to me after I critisised one of his teammates."why do you think he plays in the third division,it's because he's prone to mistakes that perhaps a player of higher quality playing in then division one wouldn't make".I don't think he included his best mate Ken Coote but he had a point.:sorted:
So I say we are not Premier but they tried their hardest out there on a rough old bumpy pitch.
A win is a win,3 points,thank you very much.
So,well done lads.:cool:
 

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Newbee said:
A very..very.. lucky win...( i guess this is the home equivilent of the exeter away league match)..how we managed to walk away with 3pts i dont know , who cares play-offs here we come :worm: :sorted:

But 1st things 1st, what was wrong with the programme? at halftime i saw quite a few people exchanging theirs with the sellers :confused:

As for the match, we dominated for the first 30 odd mins , lots of nice passing on the floor we looked dangerous (we looked like a team in the top 6!!), Myles probably dived for the penalty (shall have to check the highlights) but whatever happened he seemed to go into his shell after the incident maybe he was feeling guilty who knows, he couldn't get past his man for love nor money

Alexander forced their keeper into a brilliant save but other than that , we just let Rovers back into the game

Our defence was looking shaky (still kept a clean sheet though!) one day the luck will run out and Lee wont be able to save them , Rovers' tactic was to target Legge making him chase balls played over him /put him under pressure.

Nicky made a very good decision to take him off and bring Pim on, another good subbstitution was taking Bean off who seemed to vanish from the pitch. I like the fact we are now making substitutions early in the match !

The pitch / weather did play it's part in the match, Charlie miss kicking the ball in the penalty area, Byrne getting the ball stuck between his feet stopping him from properly having a go at his man.

I did not enjoy the second half (well my ticker didn't), as it felt Rovers were going to score with nearly every ball put into our box, how many times did the ball go across our goal waiting for a Rovers player to tap it in! Whenever we cleared the ball it nearly always went to a Rovers player to start the attack all over again.

We had a few breakaways towards the end of the match Logan again saving from Byrne, but we did enough to hang on.

Saw lots of new faces in the ground especially kids :sorted: i think they would have liked what they saw.

Overall a good 3pts , not sure if we will get away with doing the same on tuesday..
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Well good for us then, we deserved to beat them by at least 3 when they scraped a lucky draw at home.

I'm not quite sure how Fozzy could be doing a better job for the club than he is.

Making space and time for the board in the best possible way.

Then I see one poster on here saying he has done "nothing" and in the next sentence awarding the MOM to his new signing! FFS.

How much more do they want!


I'm all for him: bright, humble, willing to learn, believes in good football, good man manager, grateful for the chance and will willingly take advice from others.

The total opposite of the man he replaced.
 

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Is Nathan Byrne the shortest Brentford player ever?

If not who was?

Thanks in advance.
 

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marlowbee said:
I think if memory serves me that is first win against rovers for 17 years?
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As I posted on the previews thread, 17 years and 14 games. Rovers were definitely our bogey team of recent times until then. Always thought we had a shocking recent record against Wycombe and Gillingham (until last season), but none compare to Rovers.
 
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