Aldershot reports and reaction

[Glenisterbee]

I agree with the above too. Scotty reignited my passion for the bees and in our promotion season i was going to places like Chester and Grimsby for evening away games because i sensed that it was our year. Last season was a tough one in a very strong league and we did very well to finish ninth. This season however has been a disappointment especially when you consider the level of investment that Mr Benham has provided. Some of our displays have been little short of woeful and to be honest i would rather we were challenging strongly in the league than having a cup run. We are a team that has no devine right to success and in fairness the reaction to virtually all the signings in the summer was very positive. The style of the football seems to be the bugbear for most fans and i am no different. We will never knock it around like the gunners but yesterdays policy of knocking it long and high to our two small frontmen made for poor viewing. We havent really gelled and our central midfield is so poor at the moment. Having got so much backing Scotty needs to start delivering and fast. I met a pal at Exeter last week who asked for a prediction and i said absolutely no idea. We may lose 3-0 or we may win 3-0 and it was a very strange game. We seem to be making very little progress and that is the frustration.

 

[hairman]

We'll be too good for your lot on tuesday night.

He's only repeating what you said :shrug:

 

[Nurse Betty]

Yes we had chances & so did they & I thought they were going to nick it.

Thought it was right to bring on KOC as Dave had lost his way completely. Where is the Dave from last season? Thought Simpson played well & looked our most dangerous player.

Having said that, the worst thing for me was that I just didn't enjoy today at all. I stayed to the end but I couldn't get out fast enough. Insipid, lacklustre, uninspired, turgid, boring, predictable. Take your pick. All these words sum up today for me

I'll take turgid, thank you.

 

[Nurse Betty]

I don't have a personal dislike of Andy Scott, I don't know the man, but I can't escape the gut feeling that he is not the right man anymore. I suspect we are actually in one of those in-between periods of pretty much treading water. So, a few good results/performances are followed by some dodgy ones. Both pro and anti AS groups have evidence to support their positions, whilst the reality is that we are just a mid-table Divison One side. Last season, though we eventually finished 9th (not scoring many goals, lot of draws) we never at any time threatened to become a play-off side. I don't expect we will this season either. AS will do enough to keep his job and keep some of us thinking we are progressing, but I reckon we are standing still, and doing so playing some unattractive football.

I agree with you completely.

What I have felt for quite a while now is that we need a big injection of money into the side if Matthew Benham is serious about us getting out of League One. I know other managers may be able to do better with our present budget; I know the playing budget went up a chunk this season. What I think we need, though, is at least 2 very good forwards who are scoring goals right now. Players we have to buy. Players who will cost us serious money because other clubs want them as well. Notplayers who are at the end of their career, not tall enough, at an age when they are almost permanently injured and who are on frees or costing us (in footballing terms) not very much. I don't want to see any more players with potential. I want to see the finished article, in their prime. Someone who we could keep if we were promoted. In other words, Championship level players.

We also need the same in midfield and they both better be creative and forward running so the midfield can do the job of protecting the defence and supplying the front line.

I'm not an advocate of trying to buy our way out of trouble. I'd rather we played our way out. I just don't know if the players we have at the moment are of sufficient quality or not or whether the problem is they aren't being used properly on the pitch. But potential is not going to get us out of this League.

Fed up.

 

[readingbee]

I agree with you completely.

What I have felt for quite a while now is that we need a big injection of money into the side if Matthew Benham is serious about us getting out of League One. I know other managers may be able to do better with our present budget; I know the playing budget went up a chunk this season. What I think we need, though, is at least 2 very good forwards who are scoring goals right now. Players we have to buy. Players who will cost us serious money because other clubs want them as well. Notplayers who are at the end of their career, not tall enough, at an age when they are almost permanently injured and who are on frees or costing us (in footballing terms) not very much. I don't want to see any more players with potential. I want to see the finished article, in their prime. Someone who we could keep if we were promoted. In other words, Championship level players.

We also need the same in midfield and they both better be creative and forward running so the midfield can do the job of protecting the defence and supplying the front line.

I'm not an advocate of trying to buy our way out of trouble. I'd rather we played our way out. I just don't know if the players we have at the moment are of sufficient quality or not or whether the problem is they aren't being used properly on the pitch. But potential is not going to get us out of this League.

Fed up.

With you 100% on the above, the problem is AS seems intent on playing one particular style. I am getting pissed of with it, it's so one dimensional. Even if we bring in better players than we have now. I can't see how it's going to help. The players we have are better than we had before but are not producing the goods.........you have to wonder why. I for one am just about a couple of games away from saying enough is enough, unless something changes. After 32 years of watching the Bees I don't think I have been so bored at a game and wanted the shots to win to end the misery.

 

[NorthamptonBee]

My 16 year old son reckons it's been boring for a while now, he just said that even when we are winning you see the other manager change formations, switch wingers, put one more up front etc etc, they try anything whereas we do nothing. I nicknamed the management as the drifters a few months ago and nothing has changed, nothing will change.

 

[detours]

My 16 year old son reckons it's been boring for a while now, he just said that even when we are winning you see the other manager change formations, switch wingers, put one more up front etc etc, they try anything whereas we do nothing. I nicknamed the management as the drifters a few months ago and nothing has changed, nothing will change.

With Alexander having a knock and Grabban being cup tied, we didnt really have any attacking options on the bench, or at least not as many as we would have had in a league game. I dont even think Hudson touched the ball did he?

I do think that AS can be stubborn in his team selection though, Weston gets played every game even if he is having a nightmare.

 

[Bill Benn]

With Alexander having a knock and Grabban being cup tied, we didnt really have any attacking options on the bench, or at least not as many as we would have had in a league game. I dont even think Hudson touched the ball did he?

I do think that AS can be stubborn in his team selection though, Weston gets played every game even if he is having a nightmare.

Seems that your starting to turnlol

 

[Brain-dead Bee]

Over the 90 minutes, I thought it wasn't a bad performance - not a very good one, but there were more positives than v Bournemouth.

For 55-60 minutes (roughly from the Aldershot goal to the middle of the 2nd half) we looked decent and could have scored 3 or 4. Then we lost it completely and once Simpson tired, we offered little threat, and had no-one on the bench to change it. That was very poor, as were the first 10 minutes or so.

Parts of the crowd were getting on Weston's back, but I thought he had an adequate performance: Diagouraga, Forster and Bean were all worse.

If Alexander's injury is going to keep him out for a while (and Cort is out of contention) then we need to try to loan a striker with some physical presence

 

[Guildford Bee]

I dont even think Hudson touched the ball did he?

I don't think Hudson has touched the ball for us full stop.

 

[2826 claire]

I for one am just about a couple of games away from saying enough is enough.

I am sad to say I am already there. £12.50 = 3 pints so I decided to stay in the Griffin and watch the rugby instead.

5, 10, 15, 20 years ago I would have been disgusted at the mere thought of that. Now, having listened to people after the game and the God awful display against Bournemouth, I think I made the right decision and will be doing exactly the same for the replay

 

[condorman]

I am sad to say I am already there. £12.50 = 3 pints so I decided to stay in the Griffin and watch the rugby instead.

5, 10, 15, 20 years ago I would have been disgusted at the mere thought of that. Now, having listened to people after the game and the God awful display against Bournemouth, I think I made the right decision and will be doing exactly the same for the replay

Wow. International rugby on a Tuesday night. Whatever next.

 

[condorman]

I don't think Hudson has touched the ball for us full stop.

He definately kicked one over the bar somewhere.

 

[2826 claire]

Wow. International rugby on a Tuesday night. Whatever next.

 

[Low End Bee]

It was just like an old 23 Skidoo album I've got. Just aimless rubbish for the most part with the odd good bit thrown in.
Not good enough for me to want to play it again.

 

[BoroBee]

I agree with you completely.

What I have felt for quite a while now is that we need a big injection of money into the side if Matthew Benham is serious about us getting out of League One. I know other managers may be able to do better with our present budget; I know the playing budget went up a chunk this season. What I think we need, though, is at least 2 very good forwards who are scoring goals right now. Players we have to buy. Players who will cost us serious money because other clubs want them as well. Notplayers who are at the end of their career, not tall enough, at an age when they are almost permanently injured and who are on frees or costing us (in footballing terms) not very much. I don't want to see any more players with potential. I want to see the finished article, in their prime. Someone who we could keep if we were promoted. In other words, Championship level players.

We also need the same in midfield and they both better be creative and forward running so the midfield can do the job of protecting the defence and supplying the front line.

I'm not an advocate of trying to buy our way out of trouble. I'd rather we played our way out. I just don't know if the players we have at the moment are of sufficient quality or not or whether the problem is they aren't being used properly on the pitch. But potential is not going to get us out of this League.

Fed up.

Hasn't that always been the Brentford way though?
We muddle along and occasionally we "find" a rare gem in non-league or someone who is at the end of their career and has a couple of great games left in them. Apart from that, we "make-do-and-mend" season after season and then we are surprised when dreams and ambitions come to nothing.
From time to time we get someone who sets the club alight - like DJ for example - and we are disappointed when that doesn't lift the club on a permanent basis and then we sell the "star" and fail to invest the money wisely.

The heart of the problem at the moment IMHO is that our manager doesn't have the creativity to see when there's a problem and what to do about it. We get the occasional excellent performance, but they're always "gutsy" performances rather than exciting creative ones.

I agree that we really need to spend some serious money on some quality players to raise the game - we're never going to get any better with "journeymen". Why do we always get beaten by the bigger clubs to the quality players that we go for?

I know Benham has put a lot of money into the club, but it takes a whole heap more to become "better" rather than just "still in business".

Just my opinion - feel free to disagree... :shrug:

 

[nick logan]

Another afternoon of zero entertainment at Griffin Park. Have we been entertained at home at all this season? Maybe the 6 out of 10 performances against Sheff Weds and Charlton.

Aldershot were by far the better FOOTBALL team. We were average at huff and puff, with hoffball mixed in.

You're boring us all Scotty.

6 out of 10 haha ,you are hard to please.

 

[blunstone]

Hasn't that always been the Brentford way though?
We muddle along and occasionally we "find" a rare gem in non-league or someone who is at the end of their career and has a couple of great games left in them. Apart from that, we "make-do-and-mend" season after season and then we are surprised when dreams and ambitions come to nothing.
From time to time we get someone who sets the club alight - like DJ for example - and we are disappointed when that doesn't lift the club on a permanent basis and then we sell the "star" and fail to invest the money wisely.

The heart of the problem at the moment IMHO is that our manager doesn't have the creativity to see when there's a problem and what to do about it. We get the occasional excellent performance, but they're always "gutsy" performances rather than exciting creative ones.

I agree that we really need to spend some serious money on some quality players to raise the game - we're never going to get any better with "journeymen". Why do we always get beaten by the bigger clubs to the quality players that we go for?

I know Benham has put a lot of money into the club, but it takes a whole heap more to become "better" rather than just "still in business".

Just my opinion - feel free to disagree... :shrug:

every fan everywhere wants money chucking at his or her team.

what we need is to unearth gems from non-league or premiership academy cast-offs rather than pay hefty (by our standards) wages, signing on fees, agents etc etc on older journeymen.

 

[Inappropriate Smilies Bee]

miles better performance than on tuesday. good cup tie. should have won it. quality header from charlie (even though he looked 17 to 18 inches offside). simpson hit the post, would have been superb goal, then that one that the keeper dragged back from nearly over the line, could have had 3 in 5 minutes. was he a cartoon character that keeper by the way, one of The Incredibles maybe? good chance in the replay and good draw too. great chance of another cup run. :computer:

 

[wayfarer172]

Would you all like to know what i fink the trouble is?
I am typing this slowly because I know you lot cant read very fast.

 

[nick logan]

Would you all like to know what i fink the trouble is?

No thanks

 

[maddogging]

No thanks

lol

 

[scruff puppy pup]

No thanks

Wayfarer, you did set yourself up for that one.

 

[scruff puppy pup]

Hasn't that always been the Brentford way though?

Cambridge United, Wrexham aren't even in the league any longer and they have spent more seasons in the Championship than us over the past forty years. It honestly wouldn't surprise me if within the next five seasons, AFC Wimbledon came back into the league, and passed us, just like the first time. Bury, Stockport, Scunny, Blackpool, not big teams who can get into the Championship and stay there at least for more than one season without even splashing the cash.

And I'm not suggesting we just throw money at the problem.

 

[Wise old Bee]

what we need is to unearth gems from non-league or premiership academy cast-offs rather than pay hefty (by our standards) wages, signing on fees, agents etc etc on older journeymen.

Quite right. Apart from when we spent decent money on the likes of Deano, Bliss, Ratcliffe etc. in the Lange period this has always been our most fruitful means of recruitment.

Saturday was poor. Lumping the ball up to two small forwards

 

[sonofabee]

Hasn't that always been the Brentford way though?
We muddle along and occasionally we "find" a rare gem in non-league or someone who is at the end of their career and has a couple of great games left in them. Apart from that, we "make-do-and-mend" season after season and then we are surprised when dreams and ambitions come to nothing.
From time to time we get someone who sets the club alight - like DJ for example - and we are disappointed when that doesn't lift the club on a permanent basis and then we sell the "star" and fail to invest the money wisely.

The heart of the problem at the moment IMHO is that our manager doesn't have the creativity to see when there's a problem and what to do about it. We get the occasional excellent performance, but they're always "gutsy" performances rather than exciting creative ones.

I agree that we really need to spend some serious money on some quality players to raise the game - we're never going to get any better with "journeymen". Why do we always get beaten by the bigger clubs to the quality players that we go for?

I know Benham has put a lot of money into the club, but it takes a whole heap more to become "better" rather than just "still in business".

Just my opinion - feel free to disagree... :shrug:

I think a mixture of investment, evolution and improvement as well as patience is required if we are to get promoted and remain in the 2nd division.

Regarding signing of quality proven players, the problem is supply and demand with quality proven goalscorers and ball playing midfielders able to demand better remuneration and length of contract with bigger(wealthier) clubs. Add to that you can get a lot bigger and better properties outside of London so we're not agreat attraction.

Having said that if we can play the "right" type of football, I'm sure we'll become a club that local prem clubs will be happy to loan their young stars out to, not sure if AS has burnt his bridges with Tottenham but I'd like to see the likes of Bostock learning his trade here as long as he is played where he is best.

I'm not turning on AS as believe that his record so far results wise to date is just about OK but improving, however I would like to see a better brand of football being played and trust that he is looking to address with the addition of at least a quality centre midfield and a mobile big man up front.

 

[mattbee85]

I thought we played it on the ground to good effect in the first half and created a few chances. I am not trying to pick holes but it seems this may have been discouraged at half time and we came out with a different style of football. I have been up and down with Scott but Kev for Toumani on 75 minutes felt like a punch in the stomach.

I have been a loyal fan for over 20 years and I feel little enthusiam about watching us at the moment, even when we win it is usualy through a pretty painful game plan. Today appeared to be a good opportunity to give Saunders, Hunt, Hudson a run but not to be. I am not a huge Saunders fan but with Weston struggling again I would have given Saunders or Wood a run.

Trying to take the positives.... Lee gets better and better, he didnt have a great deal to do today but looks very assured now. Great to see KO as captain. Pim looked solid and played some fantastic passes. Simpson gaining fitness and looking the threat he was before the injury. Forster forced us to play differently but maybe should have done better with a couple of chances. Both goals were good to watch.

The bit about Pim playing fantastic passes is superb!!! Do you ever hear anyone say this about LL???? No!!!! Pim has to play with KO as if LL plays this suggests that all AS is looking to do is play hoofball!!!!!!

 

[wayfarer172]

The bit about Pim playing fantastic passes is superb!!! Do you ever hear anyone say this about LL???? No!!!! Pim has to play with KO as if LL plays this suggests that all AS is looking to do is play hoofball!!!!!!

Which means LL is AS's first choice.

 

[wayfarer172]

No thanks

Ok then. Fine. Whatever.

 

[stoney04]

at times we were good at times we were poor especially in midfield and still frustrating watching the hoof too two short players.

what did piss me off was people slagging off simmo and weston... get real they are class players playing with players below there par.... and aslo it would help if mcdonald, forster, weston simmo had an understanding!

 

[The Pipe]

Was not impressed snd felt it was because Aldershot was not nearly as good as Bournemouth that we looked a better team.

Once agian minimal passing instead we kick long and hope to pick up pieces, I have now had enough of this rubbish so my Saturdays are now free for the forsseable future so thats over 50 years support down the tubes.

Thanks

 

[shouldbee]

Was not impressed snd felt it was because Aldershot was not nearly as good as Bournemouth that we looked a better team.

Once agian minimal passing instead we kick long and hope to pick up pieces, I have now had enough of this rubbish so my Saturdays are now free for the forsseable future so thats over 50 years support down the tubes.

Thanks

you are not alone :sad:

 

[badgerbee]

Funny how people see games differently..........

Report from Shots fan on 606:

Surprisingly Aldershot started the better, playing some neat football.
With Brentford's first serious attack on 10 minutes Nicky Foster had two shots on goal within one minute, the second brilliantly saved by Jamie Young, diving low to his left tipping the ball out from what looked like a certain goal.
The first scoring chance for Aldershot came on 11 minutes with McGlasham's shot being pushed out for a corner.
A minute later a long diagonal ball from the left to the right by Luke Gutteridge opened up the Brentford defence, resulting in a neat pass to Wade Small who slotted the ball low into the right hand corner of the goal. 0-1
The goal seemed to wake Brentford up,they kept Aldershot penned in their own half, the incessant pressure was reward on 20 minutes by a superb looped header by Charlie McDonald over the reach of the advancing Young. 1-1
2 minutes later Robbie Simpson hit a low shot from the edge of the area that hit the upright and rebounded out and was cleared.
It wasn't till the 25th minute that a breakaway by Jermaine McGlasham frightened the Brentford defence with a shot that hit the side netting.
As the half time whistle approached Robbie Simpson had two good shots on goal save by Young, who was having the game of his life.
The second half started with Brentford carrying on where they left off in the first half, but Aldershot kept solid keeping them limited to very few shots on goal.
Suddenly with 15minutes left Brentford started to tire from all their effort and Aldershot started to threat their goal more and more.
On 76 minutes the fresh legs of Connor came on for Diagouraga.
78 minutes Gutteridge hits the bar.
85 minutes McGlasham misses left of goal and Kirk Hudson comes on for Simpson.
88 minutes Danny Hylton comes on for Wade Small.
Both sides are now running down the clock.
The final whistle blows, the Aldershot supporters have got what they came for, a return match at Aldershot.
Brentford I'm sure must feel disappointed that they didn't put away just one more of the many chances they created.
Summing up Aldershot did what they've done a few times this season, held fast with their backs to the wall, with a depleated squad, I chose Morris mainly for the fact that wherever he is asked to play he puts in a 100% effort for the team.
On another day Simpson with a bit more luck could have had a hatful, he ran himself into the ground.

 

[Les Beeavinu]

Funny how people see games differently..........

Report from Shots fan on 606:

Surprisingly Aldershot started the better, playing some neat football.
With Brentford's first serious attack on 10 minutes Nicky Foster had two shots on goal within one minute, the second brilliantly saved by Jamie Young, diving low to his left tipping the ball out from what looked like a certain goal.
The first scoring chance for Aldershot came on 11 minutes with McGlasham's shot being pushed out for a corner.
A minute later a long diagonal ball from the left to the right by Luke Gutteridge opened up the Brentford defence, resulting in a neat pass to Wade Small who slotted the ball low into the right hand corner of the goal. 0-1
The goal seemed to wake Brentford up,they kept Aldershot penned in their own half, the incessant pressure was reward on 20 minutes by a superb looped header by Charlie McDonald over the reach of the advancing Young. 1-1
2 minutes later Robbie Simpson hit a low shot from the edge of the area that hit the upright and rebounded out and was cleared.
It wasn't till the 25th minute that a breakaway by Jermaine McGlasham frightened the Brentford defence with a shot that hit the side netting.
As the half time whistle approached Robbie Simpson had two good shots on goal save by Young, who was having the game of his life.
The second half started with Brentford carrying on where they left off in the first half, but Aldershot kept solid keeping them limited to very few shots on goal.
Suddenly with 15minutes left Brentford started to tire from all their effort and Aldershot started to threat their goal more and more.
On 76 minutes the fresh legs of Connor came on for Diagouraga.
78 minutes Gutteridge hits the bar.
85 minutes McGlasham misses left of goal and Kirk Hudson comes on for Simpson.
88 minutes Danny Hylton comes on for Wade Small.
Both sides are now running down the clock.
The final whistle blows, the Aldershot supporters have got what they came for, a return match at Aldershot.
Brentford I'm sure must feel disappointed that they didn't put away just one more of the many chances they created.
Summing up Aldershot did what they've done a few times this season, held fast with their backs to the wall, with a depleated squad, I chose Morris mainly for the fact that wherever he is asked to play he puts in a 100% effort for the team.
On another day Simpson with a bit more luck could have had a hatful, he ran himself into the ground.

Sounds a good game - wish I'd gone!

 

[Low End Bee]

Sounds a good game - wish I'd gone!

You need to lower your expectations to an Aldersnot fans level first

It was their cup final.

 

[detours]

It was definately a good game to watch, if we had scored when we had our sustained pressure in the second half the floodgates would have opened and we might have gotten several goals.

As it was, we took our foot of the gas and let Aldershot finish the stronger. A draw was probably fair on balance. The negativity on here is ott.

 

[nick logan]

It was definately a good game to watch, if we had scored when we had our sustained pressure in the second half the floodgates would have opened and we might have gotten several goals.

As it was, we took our foot of the gas and let Aldershot finish the stronger. A draw was probably fair on balance. The negativity on here is ott.

i didn't think it was that bad a game or performance.

 

[Inappropriate Smilies Bee]

The negativity on here is ott.

thank god i only read my own posts. is everyone saying we were terrible on saturday on this website then??? will the last one left on the gpg please turn out the lights.

 

[wayfarer172]

Was not impressed snd felt it was because Aldershot was not nearly as good as Bournemouth that we looked a better team.

Once agian minimal passing instead we kick long and hope to pick up pieces, I have now had enough of this rubbish so my Saturdays are now free for the forsseable future so thats over 50 years support down the tubes.

Thanks

Unfortunatly Mr Pipe you veiws seem to be rampant at the moment.The thing is, what do we do about it. If I were able to attend matches nothing would stop me going to Griffin Park come what may.In saying that I can see where you are coming from. It just seems strange to me that our best performances this season have been against quality sides (Hull,Everton,Sheff Wed,& Charlton) etc, where the Bees played a passing game.One poster on hear said that they heard AS screaming at RL to hoof the ball to MW.This all smacks of kick and rush. Could someone remind me of the teams AS played in? Perhaps he was bought up with kick and rush tactics and those tactics are the only thing he knows or understands.There are several on here now who are saying ''enough is enough'' and that is worrying.I dont want to keep on about AS, I'm pissed off with listening to myself moaning about him now, but at the end of the day it is his team. He bought the players in so the responsibility is down to him. These tactics were probably fine in Division 2. I mean half the sides still use there coats as goal posts. Even listening to the commentry is hard work now. Thank heaven for MarkyBee and his team.Even last Saturday I could here the Aldershot fans outsinging the bees fans. You would have thought we were playing away. And yet when the team turn on the quality there is nothing like the Griffin Park roar.In future I am going to lay off AS. There is an old saying,Give him enough rope and he will hang himself.

 

[BoroBee]

every fan everywhere wants money chucking at his or her team.

what we need is to unearth gems from non-league or premiership academy cast-offs rather than pay hefty (by our standards) wages, signing on fees, agents etc etc on older journeymen.

True, but there aren't many clubs who have got themselves in stronger positions than us without spending money on it.
The boring management cliche says: If you do what you've always done; you get what you've always got.

It's been an awfully long time since we were anything other than a lower division / mid-table stalwart.

 

[blunstone]

True, but there aren't many clubs who have got themselves in stronger positions than us without spending money on it.
The boring management cliche says: If you do what you've always done; you get what you've always got.

It's been an awfully long time since we were anything other than a lower division / mid-table stalwart.

i agree to some extent however i would rather we splashed what cash we have on up and coming players - possibly from non-league - rather than signing journeymen over 30 years of age looking for their last club?

 

[detours]

i agree to some extent however i would rather we splashed what cash we have on up and coming players - possibly from non-league - rather than signing journeymen over 30 years of age looking for their last club?

Alexander has been a very good signing in my opinion, and I think Wright has looked very solid. We have also signed some good players that are in their prime (Woodman, Lee) or young and good prospects (Legge, Weston, Spillane, Hudson, Diagouraga, Balkestein).

It is unfair to say that older players can't do a job for us, they still have all of the experience. Granted Cort will never be fully fit, and Forster is in perhaps his last season. But we should get a good few more seasons out of Charlie and Alexander.

Young and talented players are hard to find, and for me AS has done a good job in uncovering them in the past. I dont have a problem with signing older players if they can deliver, and it is too early to tell so far.

 

[Bill Benn]

Alexander has been a very good signing in my opinion, and I think Wright has looked very solid. We have also signed some good players that are in their prime (Woodman, Lee) or young and good prospects (Legge, Weston, Spillane, Hudson, Diagouraga, Balkestein).

It is unfair to say that older players can't do a job for us, they still have all of the experience. Granted Cort will never be fully fit, and Forster is in perhaps his last season. But we should get a good few more seasons out of Charlie and Alexander.

Young and talented players are hard to find, and for me AS has done a good job in uncovering them in the past. I dont have a problem with signing older players if they can deliver, and it is too early to tell so far.

Whilst l agree with your take on Simpson and Alexandra Time was something you were not prepared to give Adams

 

[detours]

Whilst l agree with your take on Simpson and Alexandra Time was something you were not prepared to give Adams

I dont know what you are referring to, I always said Adams looked like a very good prospect, apart from his not tracking back, and he is not that much of a loss. Didn't Adams leave because he wanted to move back up north anyway?

Hmmm... don't really know what you're getting at sorry

 

[BoroBee]

i agree to some extent however i would rather we splashed what cash we have on up and coming players - possibly from non-league - rather than signing journeymen over 30 years of age looking for their last club?

I agree completely, but I still think that it's going to take more money pumped into the club to change what we've got used to in recent years. If we are stuck with this situation then young, non-leaguers are going to be the future, but IMHO we are never going to get into the Championship with such players. That was my original point.

 

[Sweepy]

For all those who are criticising the critics of Weston, would anyone like to run it past me why it is acceptable to be outstanding against the big clubs and repeatedly average against the tripe?

 

[eaglebee]

. Even last Saturday I could here the Aldershot fans outsinging the bees fans.

Have you ever wondered if perhaps if you and a few other "armchair" fans get their arses down to GP and put some good strong vocal support behind the players and manager instead of hidding behind your keyboards constantly bestowing vitriolic attacks on them all that it could make a difference to the teams performance, You only had to be at Birmingham (Oh sorry, I forgot, you don't attend any matches!!!!) to witness what getting behind a team does for their moral and team spirit.

 

[Owlsmoor_Bee]

Have you ever wondered if perhaps if you and a few other "armchair" fans get their arses down to GP and put some good strong vocal support behind the players and manager instead of hidding behind your keyboards constantly bestowing vitriolic attacks on them all that it could make a difference to the teams performance, You only had to be at Birmingham (Oh sorry, I forgot, you don't attend any matches!!!!) to witness what getting behind a team does for their moral and team spirit.

To be fair to Wayfarer, I think it's a case of can't rather than won't in this instance.

 

[scruff puppy pup]

Didn't Adams leave because he wanted to move back up north anyway?

No. He did not leave for that reason.

 

[scruff puppy pup]

Have you ever wondered if perhaps if you and a few other "armchair" fans get their arses down to GP and put some good strong vocal support behind the players and manager instead of hidding behind your keyboards constantly bestowing vitriolic attacks on them all that it could make a difference to the teams performance, You only had to be at Birmingham (Oh sorry, I forgot, you don't attend any matches!!!!) to witness what getting behind a team does for their moral and team spirit.

So, if everyone had just shouted louder, we would have beaten Oldham, Rochdale and Walsall?

I can just see Paul Dickov/Keith Hill cowering in the tiny away dugout, overwhelmed by the raucous home vocal support.