I think the answer to your question has to be a resounding “NO” unless the 3 corner routine where the first 2 hit the first defender & the 3rd one is fired into the side netting is practiced !?Does this guy work with said or just the guys in the box? Said’s set pieces are awful
...............only a month ago...............oh dear.................Well, I think he's brilliant and that Man City have employed the wrong bloke. Superb impact.
..............from a week ago!!!!!!!..................Surely our best goal return for many years from set pieces??
If Said fails to clear the first man or drills it into the side netting that is nothing to do with the set piece coach and everything to do with poor/lazy delivery by Said. Simple as that.Does this guy work with said or just the guys in the box? Said’s set pieces are awful
Spot on mate.If Said fails to clear the first man or drills it into the side netting that is nothing to do with the set piece coach and everything to do with poor/lazy delivery by Said. Simple as that.
Yep, i wonder what he does it training when he stays behind - what he should be doing is taking corners and free kicks - not how many kick ups can i do whilst holding an egg and reciting shakespear. (not a guarantee).If Said fails to clear the first man or drills it into the side netting that is nothing to do with the set piece coach and everything to do with poor/lazy delivery by Said. Simple as that.
Yep.Spot on mate.
Maybe more people might start to realise how important Matty Jensen is to us now.
We very nearly scored from one at the death though? Pinnock with a free header off the line.Not surprised to see this thread opened after that, I was quite shocked at how poor set pieces were last night. You have one job Andreas! lol
presumably it's to draw players out from the box to cover if we go short?Just to change subject away from last night....Don't think I'll ever be a footy coach but question why....going back to the Blackburn game, when we had a corner, said didn't take them, but stood very nearby only few feet in from side touchline...... Why position there and be so far out from the action . If he is the wizard we admire so much, why is he not moving around, just inside the box ,where he would be a menace and occupying The minds of probably two defenders, and possibly creating a penalty...why are the main attackers invariably jostling around the keeper..... it's all so predictable....apparently the stats on goals from corners is low.so why persist with orthodox style hoof into box......just asking you experts, how would you do corners.
He can make the most intelligent and thought out routines in the world, he cant account for one of the most talented players in the league hitting the first man time and time againNot surprised to see this thread opened after that, I was quite shocked at how poor set pieces were last night. You have one job Andreas! lol
Surely our best goal return for many years from set pieces??
You suggesting this isn't true then??!!..............from a week ago!!!!!!!..................
Careful. I just got told off for using the word "experts".......just asking you experts, how would you do corners.
Otherwise known as ‘going back across’ or, ‘putting it back in the mid’. 1 x goal and 3 x assists according to the BBC.Yes there has been some poor delivery from corners and free kicks but it is clear that some of our new routines are working. Ethan Pinnock as an obvious example often backs away from goal at back post and achieves an attempt on goal. This is new and successful in achieving a strong attempt in goal regularly. He has had several well saved or blocked on line.
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He's hardly been here five minutes and barely overlapped with Inaki Cana. I'm sure there are more and more set piece coaches knocking about.Going to Arsenal? I'm putting 2+2 and making 10. But Arsenal are negotiating a set ball specialist coach. Recommended by our ex keeper coach?
It does seem like "spin Pinnock out to the back post" is kind of the plan. You'd think that opposition scouting folk might have cottoned onto it too by now.Our set pieces have been appalling lately. A massive improvement hoped for on Wednesday please.
I've long said that the difference between promotion and not could come down to a set piece, particularly a direct free kick. Ours are poor. Compare it with the Fulham lad who has scored this way in 3 consecutive games. Benrahma (it's normally him) barely hits the target once, let alone 3 times, let alone 3 goals that way.Our set pieces have been appalling lately. A massive improvement hoped for on Wednesday please.
I’m sure I saw a stat that said we had the best record in the division from set pieces. They’ve certainly not been great in recent matches and I agree with others who’ve said Marcondes should be preferred over Benrahma for free kicks.I've long said that the difference between promotion and not could come down to a set piece, particularly a direct free kick. Ours are poor. Compare it with the Fulham lad who has scored this way in 3 consecutive games. Benrahma (it's normally him) barely hits the target once, let alone 3 times, let alone 3 goals that way.
We weren't in the top 5 for goals scored from set pieces in general. Cardiff were top but we didn't feature. Maybe different from corners as we are more direct than other set piecesI’m sure I saw a stat that said we had the best record in the division from set pieces. They’ve certainly not been great in recent matches and I agree with others who’ve said Marcondes should be preferred over Benrahma for free kicks.
Other clubs' analysts quickly work them out, so more are needed.Has anyone else noticed that since all the papers starting waxing lyrical about now dangerous we were at set pieces we basically stopped looking like scoring from them? Corners and free kicks. So many awful decisions and pieces of technique in recent games, can't remember a shot on target from them.
The delivery from set pieces has been awful recently, with free kicks, and corners going straight out of play, even when they do come off teams have worked out our strategy from them.Has anyone else noticed that since all the papers starting waxing lyrical about now dangerous we were at set pieces we basically stopped looking like scoring from them? Corners and free kicks. So many awful decisions and pieces of technique in recent games, can't remember a shot on target from them.
Its like the NFL. Teams will review opponents actions from specific formations and try to counter it.Other clubs' analysts quickly work them out, so more are needed.
We probably have more corners than most as well because we tend to dominate games, and we have a lot of good headers in the team now and several who are supposed to be dead ball specialists. We should definitely do better.14 goals from set pieces when you have 200 corners a season and god knows how many free kicks isn't all that imo
I bet Opta or someone has a measure on the ratio of goals scored from set pieces as a percentage of set pieces. Be interesting to see where we are compared to others14 goals from set pieces when you have 200 corners a season and god knows how many free kicks isn't all that imo
Really seems like Jensen is the only one who can deliver a targeted ball.The delivery from set pieces has been awful recently, with free kicks, and corners going straight out of play, even when they do come off teams have worked out our strategy from them.
Mbuemo, emiliano and said all had free kicks from decent positions last night... All of them were terrible. Wheres sammy saunders when you need himAs great a player as Said is, free kicks are not his forte. If Marcondes is on the pitch, he should take them.
2nd best behind Birmingham. So clearly most clubs are poor at it also. Set piece coach presumably isn’t just taking them but also defending them, which we’ve massively improved upon.14 goals from set pieces when you have 200 corners a season and god knows how many free kicks isn't all that imo
Not sure, I remember the last set piece coach was just in charge of the attacking side. I think Brian handles defensive set pieces but I could be wrong. Whoever it is better tell Raya to stand closer to the goal next season.2nd best behind Birmingham. So clearly most clubs are poor at it also. Set piece coach presumably isn’t just taking them but also defending them, which we’ve massively improved upon.
Pontus shoutingHow about doing the Pinnock corner using someone else. Dalsgaard?
I dislike the corner where everybody has to be able to touch their goalie, that idea should be replaced with a short corner and more of a Runaround (Mike Reid style)
Jackie GrahamThe "argument free kick" dates back to either Jackie Graham or John Docherty. Can't remember which.