AZ Alkmaar walk off against Ajax, match abandoned

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..........the clashing yellow tops of the keeper and ref.......at first thought it was the ref lashing out!!!........
 

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I dont think the keeper had much option as he was attacked himself.Crazy situation that you dont wish to see.
Remember Paul Roberts getting a slap at Millwall one year when a fan jumped over the hoardings during a 2-1 win.
 

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Crazy situation, but the goalie wasn't defending himself at the point that his assailant was lying prone on the ground, was he? The ref was correct in showing him the red card for that. If the AZ manager was taking his team off in protest at the card, then he and the club are in trouble. But if he claims that he was talking his players off because he was concerned for their safety, then he has a case ... although I think it's stretching it on the basis of a sole, now apprehended, pitch-invader.

Big fines for both clubs, replay behind closed-doors?
 

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The goalie was a little braver than those Huddersfield and Cambridge chaps at ours lol
 

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Crazy situation, but the goalie wasn't defending himself at the point that his assailant was lying prone on the ground, was he?

he wasnt really prone though was he? he was clearly trying to get back up and the keeper made sure he didnt, as i suspect 99.99% of people would if some nutjob tried to assault them, be it in the street or on a football pitch. keepers got no idea how quick security will be to stop the idiot so he's got every right to defend himself as needs be, its the old cliche but he doesnt know if he's carrying a knife etc. fair play to him.
 
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Once the keeper went beyond defending himself and showed massive aggression then he was doomed and the ref was correct in law to do so. Hard to take given the provocation but the keeper went too far
 
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Ref should have taken the teams off the pitch, explained the situation to the AZ manager and keeper in private and why he had to send him off. Yes he has to go by the letter of the law, but surely he's got scope to use discretion too.
 

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The keeper is a headcase who deserved the card.Hopefully AZ are thrown out of the competition
 
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The keeper is a headcase who deserved the card.Hopefully AZ are thrown out of the competition

I'd say the fan is the headcase, the keeper has over-reacted....actually not even sure if he's over-reacted, just reacted!
 

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Crazy situation, but the goalie wasn't defending himself at the point that his assailant was lying prone on the ground, was he?

lol matey was not prone on the ground and the keeper had every right to make sure the little **** stayed down, ridiculous decision
 

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Once the keeper went beyond defending himself and showed massive aggression then he was doomed and the ref was correct in law to do so. Hard to take given the provocation but the keeper went too far

wtf? have another look, he was trying to get back up and kicking as well, the correct decision for the referee would have been stoving the fans head in with a paving slab, some of you need to brush up on the rules here :nono:
 

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The keeper is a headcase who deserved the card.

Jesus ****ing christ, the guy ran at him and took a flying kick, the keeper showed incredible restraint by just kicking him in the body.

You're all weird, i'm going home
 

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can't wait to see this :D

but from the descriptions.... what's to stop us hiring some nutter for every time we are losing, he can charge on and provoke an opposition player into getting wound up and sent off, then his team will walk off in protest and we'll be awarded the game :cool:

it'd probably start looking suspicious if we did this weekly, i grant you...
 

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The keeper is a headcase who deserved the card.Hopefully AZ are thrown out of the competition

presumably if next season we are in the fa cup semi final and while we are 3 goals up, some clown runs on to attack richard lee, richard knocks him over and kicks him, we should be disqualified from the competition and that would be fine?
 

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can't wait to see this :D

but from the descriptions.... what's to stop us hiring some nutter for every time we are losing, he can charge on and provoke an opposition player into getting wound up and sent off, then his team will walk off in protest and we'll be awarded the game :cool:

it'd probably start looking suspicious if we did this weekly, i grant you...

We tried it against Hartlepool 2 years ago, but it seems the 'nutter' was unable to do it, so asked his son, who made valiant attempts at provocation, but got put off the pitch without Flinders having to resort to significant violence
 

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I can sympathise with the GK and hope he doesn't get any further repercussions, but the ref was probably right. As soon as he continued to kick the fan while on the floor he crossed the line to what is probably not acceptablle.
 

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Every sympathy with the keeper, should not have been sent off for defending himself. The bloke could have stabbed him for all he knew. It has happened in tennis.

Rather than send off the keeper, the ref should have taken all the players off until the stewards that let him through were replaced.
 

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The fan should be banned for life for his dress sense. FFS he makes VFTB look modern lol
 

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Jesus ****ing christ, the guy ran at him and took a flying kick, the keeper showed incredible restraint by just kicking him in the body.You're all weird, i'm going home

I agree. Can understand why we was sent off. The ref doesnt have a choice but the keeper had every right to kick the fck out of him IMO.
 
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it is a bit like using reasonable force to defend your property, if after you have subdued the intruder you proceed to kick the sh*t out of him you will get prosecuted too.

The pitch invader will get everything that he deserves but the keeper kicked him just a few times too many IMO
 

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it is a bit like using reasonable force to defend your property, if after you have subdued the intruder you proceed to kick the sh*t out of him you will get prosecuted too.

I agree, my plan is to tie him up and burn him in the garden, I think that's the way forward.
 
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Fair play to both of them. Terrific stuff. A victimless crime. Well done both.
 

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I love that as the keeper aims his second kick at the thicko, the electronic adidas ad in the background says 'the boot just got a brain'.
 

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I love that as the keeper aims his second kick at the thicko, the electronic adidas ad in the background says 'the boot just got a brain'.

Just goes to show what advertisers know.

Should read 'Boot just got a brainless ****'.
 

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if the keeper was attacked then he has every right to give the bloke a slap and a few laces in the gut.If it was a simple pitch invade then no he shouldnt,just like the kid and the Hartlepool keeper,he should have been sent off then
 

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it is a bit like using reasonable force to defend your property, if after you have subdued the intruder you proceed to kick the sh*t out of him you will get prosecuted too.

The pitch invader will get everything that he deserves but the keeper kicked him just a few times too many IMO

Do you think that if someone attacks you and then falls on their arse that they are at that point 'subdued'? 'ah sir, you have bested me, as is the custom i shall lay here until i am processed by her majesty's constabulory'.... While tis oft like that, i have heard tell of drunken mentalistos who have stood back up even after being knocked down :eek: the cads :nono: probably foreign :yes:

I am right here, so is the dutch fa for rescinding, you are wrong. I trust this resolves the matter.
 
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Do you think that if someone attacks you and then falls on their arse that they are at that point 'subdued'? 'ah sir, you have bested me, as is the custom i shall lay here until i am processed by her majesty's constabulory'.... While tis oft like that, i have heard tell of drunken mentalistos who have stood back up even after being knocked down :eek: the cads :nono: probably foreign :yes:

I am right here, so is the dutch fa for rescinding, you are wrong. I trust this resolves the matter.

We will have to agree to disagree on this one!
 

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Once the fan is lying on the ground, the goalie doesn't have to hang around - simply jog away and let the stewards worry about whether or not the fan has a knife. That's why he was no longer defending himself. Mind you, his reaction is completely understandable, but I don't think the red card should have been rescinded. What's the Dutch FA going to do about the match now? Replay behind closed doors?
 

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Once the fan is lying on the ground, the goalie doesn't have to hang around - simply jog away and let the stewards worry about whether or not the fan has a knife. That's why he was no longer defending himself. Mind you, his reaction is completely understandable, but I don't think the red card should have been rescinded. What's the Dutch FA going to do about the match now? Replay behind closed doors?

Have a watch again at his reaction Ed after he's given the thug a little tickle with his size 10's when he's approached from his right - it's a steward but the keeper doesn't know that immediately so I'd suggest that he's possibly in a state of shock at the unprovoked and extraordinary attack and that he did hold back perhaps ? :shrug:

Can't see where the Ajax Manager is coming from with his "I don't know how I would have reacted but I can understand Esteban with his South American temper." comment - if the keeper had pummelled the attacker deservedly in to oblivion then perhaps but ..... :scratch:
 

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Once the fan is lying on the ground, the goalie doesn't have to hang around - simply jog away and let the stewards worry about whether or not the fan has a knife.

The same stewards that allowed him onto the field of play?

Very encouraging.
 

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it's not like he mercilessly beats him - it's over in a second, and the keeper gets just two good kicks on him.

fans should know that if you go on the pitch, the players are allowed to give you a sound kicking.
 

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The keeper kept the man on the floor until the stewards arrived which is the most sensible thing to do and basic self defence. For all he knew the guy had a knife and having already run on the pitch to attack was more than willing to jump up and stab him. By keeping him on the floor he was protecting himself until help arrived. The alternative could have been running around Benny Hill style but who knows how many more could have been hurt in that scenario. Keeper was spot on with this one
 

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it is a bit like using reasonable force to defend your property, if after you have subdued the intruder you proceed to kick the sh*t out of him you will get prosecuted too.

The pitch invader will get everything that he deserves but the keeper kicked him just a few times too many IMO

Agree
 

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but from the descriptions.... what's to stop us hiring some nutter for every time we are losing, he can charge on and provoke an opposition player into getting wound up and sent off, then his team will walk off in protest and we'll be awarded the game :cool:

it'd probably start looking suspicious if we did this weekly, i grant you...

Very very good idea. Make it happen BIAS.

:(
 

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He was 19.

He was drunk.

He knew he shouldn't be doing that.

He's lucky he only got 2 kicks to the body. :wave:

Anyone defending him you're the reason this world is going PC mad.
 
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He was 19.

He was drunk.

He knew he shouldn't be doing that.

He's lucky he only got 2 kicks to the body. :wave:

Anyone defending him you're the reason this world is going PC mad.

I don't think anyone is defending him and his behaviour. He will get what he deserves for his action. I still think the keeper went a kick too far in his response!
 

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He was 19.

He was drunk.

He knew he shouldn't be doing that.

He's lucky he only got 2 kicks to the body. :wave:

Anyone defending him you're the reason this world is going PC mad.

Well summed up. :sorted:

If the stewards had been doing their job, this thread wouldn't exist. he was allowed to get on the field of play and got what he deserved.

The player could have been injured and out for a long time.
 
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