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It had zero impact on the result and no bitterness at all but I thought the refereeing performance was a little poor.

Tried to play clever advantages but often made a hash of it. Seemed to miss deflections and also see ones that weren’t there. Gave harsh yellow cards and then seemed to let more cynical things go.
 

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It had zero impact on the result and no bitterness at all but I thought the refereeing performance was a little poor.

Tried to play clever advantages but often made a hash of it. Seemed to miss deflections and also see ones that weren’t there. Gave harsh yellow cards and then seemed to let more cynical things go.

How did they get a corner when it went about 8 yards wide with no deflection?.
 

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If we're honest we struggled, effort and committent was quality but we didn't cause Brighton too many problems. Overall we're doing well but lets be realistic, 40 points is a long way off.
 

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It had zero impact on the result and no bitterness at all but I thought the refereeing performance was a little poor.

Tried to play clever advantages but often made a hash of it. Seemed to miss deflections and also see ones that weren’t there. Gave harsh yellow cards and then seemed to let more cynical things go.
Pretty fair assumption.
 

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I was surprised he didn't get a red, a forearm smash.
Well if the card happy ref had seen that I'm sure he would have obliged. It was right in front of me & real time it looked like two players contesting the ball with Cucerella collapsing as if shot by a sniper.
 

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Today was a classic case of fine margins which it will always will be when we play sides that we are matched with ability wise.

It was about who took the chance, Brighton took there’s.


You can see in our pack of teams in the premier league it’s about being set up not to lose first. So when we play the likes of Norwich and Watford this is the type of game we will get.

Baptiste was fantastic, and Toney is a centre forward and so much more! Immense and everywhere.
 

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What was the Canos/Roerslev sub all about?

Felt it made us weaker. If Sergi was flagging so early then that is a concern moving forwards?
 

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If we're honest we struggled, effort and committent was quality but we didn't cause Brighton too many problems. Overall we're doing well but lets be realistic, 40 points is a long way off.
I counted we caused Brighton at least 5 "problems" in the first half, and reckoned they caused us one.
Second half was more even, and ultimately we didn't have an answer to one of the (few) problems they caused us.
Agree though that getting to 40 points will take a lot of effort.
 

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XG of 0.69 but Bryan should have scored 3 in the first half apparently. Some people really just don't understand football
To be fair, barely anyone has said he should have scored 3. Plenty have said he should have made more of his chances, which is bang on. Hit the target and force a save at least. The chance he created, stepping inside and curling past the post, be really should have scored there.

The ballooning over the bar effort was very similar to a missed chance in the PO final. He needs to do better and Frank alluded to the same in his interview.
 

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The only difference between us and them -
They clinically took their goal scoring chance, we didn’t take ours!

More courage needed from us to keep shooting on sight, quicker crosses/passes into the box, and brace ourselves for the last 15 minutes of any game.

Apart from that goal, we did enough to build on and learn from, and I know we can do that to be there somewhere in the middle of the pack at the end.

Come on you 🐝🐝🐝!
 

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If we're honest we struggled, effort and committent was quality but we didn't cause Brighton too many problems. Overall we're doing well but lets be realistic, 40 points is a long way off.

oh no; what a surprise, 40 points in the PL not wrapped up by MD4 !
 

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It had zero impact on the result and no bitterness at all but I thought the refereeing performance was a little poor.

Tried to play clever advantages but often made a hash of it. Seemed to miss deflections and also see ones that weren’t there. Gave harsh yellow cards and then seemed to let more cynical things go.
The ridiculous and unnecessary 7th minute yellow to Sergei influenced the sub decisioning and probably influenced the outcome. The refs poor decisions and their antics also disrupted the flow of the game, which with two good footballing sides negated the entertainment value of the game. I was surprised and disappointed to see such a poor referee.
 

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To be fair, barely anyone has said he should have scored 3. Plenty have said he should have made more of his chances, which is bang on. Hit the target and force a save at least. The chance he created, stepping inside and curling past the post, be really should have scored there.

The ballooning over the bar effort was very similar to a missed chance in the PO final. He needs to do better and Frank alluded to the same in his interview.
A few individuals, not the whole of the GPG!

Don't really disagree with your comments, but I would just say I think Bryan has hit those to score rather than simply get them on target. His best chance missed by a foot. If he'd hit it a foot inside the post, the keeper would have made a decent save and we'd all be saying he was unlucky not to score...ultimately it's the same outcome.
 

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Well if the card happy ref had seen that I'm sure he would have obliged. It was right in front of me & real time it looked like two players contesting the ball with Cucerella collapsing as if shot by a sniper.
I'm in the North Stand slightly towards the East halfway up. Had a very clear view. Appeared that Sergi punched him in the face. I'd say he was very lucky not to get a straight red. I guess it's all about the view and angles etc though.
 

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XG of 0.69 but Bryan should have scored 3 in the first half apparently. Some people really just don't understand football
It was the BBC Radio Sussex commentary team that included Warren Aspinall that said we should have been 3up at HT. Having since seen Bryan’s chances none were clearcut, and I don’t think he was wasteful.

I do feel in the latter stages we were dropping too deep our midfield 3 sitting on top of our back 5. Only Ivan as an outlet meant the ball couldn’t be effectively cleared as even Bryan dropped deeper too
 

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XG of 0.69 but Bryan should have scored 3 in the first half apparently. Some people really just don't understand football

Many have said he had three decent opportunities which is different to saying he ‘should’ have scored three.
Not sure I’d use XG to make a case that anyone doesn’t really understand football.
Why not reply directly to the post or posts that upset you rather than making sweeping generalisations.
 

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I'm in the North Stand slightly towards the East halfway up. Had a very clear view. Appeared that Sergi punched him in the face. I'd say he was very lucky not to get a straight red. I guess it's all about the view and angles etc though.
Didn't look too clever from where I was in West Stand either......
If it had been other way round, I'm sure we'd have all been demanding a Red......
(Must admit I've lost track, but would Sergi's challenge have been checked by VAR?)
 

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I'm in the North Stand slightly towards the East halfway up. Had a very clear view. Appeared that Sergi punched him in the face. I'd say he was very lucky not to get a straight red. I guess it's all about the view and angles etc though.
Yeah I was worried he was off when it happened, however I’m sat in the east stand so difficult to properly judge. Given VAR was in play I assume it wasn’t as bad as it looked to me and that a yellow was fair.
 

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I'm in the North Stand slightly towards the East halfway up. Had a very clear view. Appeared that Sergi punched him in the face. I'd say he was very lucky not to get a straight red. I guess it's all about the view and angles etc though.

Just watched it back, it was a collision, hand in face and by no means intentional. Yellow.
 

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I'm quite surprised by a lot of negativity on here. I might have been at a different match but thought we were excellent first half. Could have been at least three up at half time and feel that was the difference. We had to take one of them. Brighton are a good team and I felt we were all over them at times. Brighton came into it more towards the end as we tired and took their one chance through an outstanding finish. That was the difference. We are in the Premier League and teams do have greater quality . Glib statements that I've seen on Tw@trer saying Mbuemo was sh*te and we should have bought a better striker really don't help us. We have got a really good squad and I'm loving watching us. I was so sad when they scored yesterday as we definitely deserved at least a point. Even Potter alluded to the same thing. Yes I think it will be very difficult to get to 40 points but I am convinced we'll keep improving and will give it everything. If it's not enough then so be it.
on another matter I thought the crowd was good again yesterday- not as good as the Arsenal game as that was a special night. West Stand was very loud whatever others say and I really only heard Brighton when they scored. I didn't hear much from our other sides of the ground apart from a short chant from the East stand at one point in the second half.
Anyway- let's keep our fingers crossed for something at Wolves before having a go at Liverpool! That match celebrates my fifty years of supporting this wonderful club. What a moment.
Perspective and hope is needed this season as well as total support!!!! You Beeeeeesssss!!!!
 

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Many have said he had three decent opportunities which is different to saying he ‘should’ have scored three.
Not sure I’d use XG to make a case that anyone doesn’t really understand football.
Why not reply directly to the post or posts that upset you rather than making sweeping generalisations.
Tbf I was trying to avoid picking a fight with anyone! Hadn't meant to cause widespread offence..
 

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Just watched it back, it was a collision, hand in face and by no means intentional. Yellow.
Was this on highlights/recorded whole game?
Is there a link, or are they on iFollow (or whatever it's called now)?
 

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Of the Mbeumo three, the first was very difficult, the second should have hit the target, the third was mainly his own work. Would have been some hat trick! If I was him, I would be most disappointed with the second and would probably consider that the big chance.
 

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Think we need to get a new “Official Partner”, maybe a Sniper who could have their advert played every time an oppo player goes down looking as though he will never get up, only to get up again and run around like a spring chicken. Potter is regaled in some places as a coach of the future, I’d like to know if the rolling around is coached, or whether he is as embarrassed about it as he should be.
 

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Was a bit surprised at how often BHA went “long ball over the top”……presumably a deliberate tactic to expose the lack of pace of our 3 CBS…..
 

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If you try for the very top corner, in effect you have 75% chance of missing the goal completely. I am suggesting adjusting where to target to give more chance of scoring. If you have played golf you will know when aiming for the middle of the green makes more sense, or when to aim more accurately than that to avoid bunkers or lakes around the green

I think there’s a difference between aiming for a spot on a golf green where it is illegal for other players to get in the way of the ball or knock it away and shooting at a football goal where there is a player whose job it is to do that. Shooting for the centre of the goal gives you a nice “on target” stat while also presenting the keeper with an easy save most of the time. Shoot for the corner and while you might miss, if you’re on target you’ll score most of the time. Keep trying that and you will get them on target more often.
 

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Well if the card happy ref had seen that I'm sure he would have obliged. It was right in front of me & real time it looked like two players contesting the ball with Cucerella collapsing as if shot by a sniper.
It was right in front of me as well and all our group (10) thought he was off.
 

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No closed fist or elbow, no eyes on the player, no deliberate or aggressive movement towards the player - it was never a red.
As I said it was a forearm into the face/neck, all of my group thought he was going to get a red, if it had been the other way we would have been
screaming for him to go.
 

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I think there’s a difference between aiming for a spot on a golf green where it is illegal for other players to get in the way of the ball or knock it away and shooting at a football goal where there is a player whose job it is to do that. Shooting for the centre of the goal gives you a nice “on target” stat while also presenting the keeper with an easy save most of the time. Shoot for the corner and while you might miss, if you’re on target you’ll score most of the time. Keep trying that and you will get them on target more often.
Yeah I agree but without aiming for the goalies chest or the postage stamp between the Junction of bar and post. I feel Bryan’s sights are currently for the perfect top bin. I am just hoping a few feet more central would help him
 

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As I said it was a forearm into the face/neck, all of my group thought he was going to get a red, if it had been the other way we would have been
screaming for him to go.
Agreed. It was just a very clumsy challenge for a player who gives his all. No doubt no intent just late and clumsy. But yes on another day it's a red.
 

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Yeah I agree but without aiming for the goalies chest or the postage stamp between the Junction of bar and post. I feel Bryan’s sights are currently for the perfect top bin. I am just hoping a few feet more central would help him
Yes, I agree, I would also advise Bryan to simply aim to score more often.
 

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Well if the card happy ref had seen that I'm sure he would have obliged. It was right in front of me & real time it looked like two players contesting the ball with Cucerella collapsing as if shot by a sniper.
And as soon as the yellow was issued he was up and running about.
 

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Your opinion fair enough, but when a group of 10 people see the same thing I tend to think my first impression was right.
You probably need to look at it again on the video replays LesB is suggesting, maybe as a collective with your 10 mates? You might want to Google "four arm smash" as well, there are bound to be plenty of YouTube clips. Then at least you'd be able to post with some confidence that you knew what you we're talking about.
 

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In a game of few chances we were undone by our inability to take any of ours. We more than matched Brighton for most of the game and probably should have come away with a point, but it's not about what we should have got. This league is proving unforgiven, and Brighton who have been in the premier for a few seasons now showed us how it's done. We probably learned more yesterday than the previous 3 games, and to stay up we need to learn those lessons quickly. We did not play badly but at this level you need to put the ball in the net, possession counts for little.
 

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You want to change the system, then?
Have to come back to you on this. I thought which one of us is pissed. Is it me , got home at half eight and had two bottles of beer, wrote what I thought and know that we need a specialised right back then i get a post about me wanting to change the system. Where did you get that from,we should have replaced Dalsgard sorry spelt wrong. We never and it shows. It’s got nothing to do with changing a system. It’s got something to do with playing a specialised right back, i love Canos he is doing well. But square peg in round hole. You can analyse much as you like, on the pitch its 11against 11 conclusion is i cant spell and its you that’s pissed.
 

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Have to come back to you on this. I thought which one of us is pissed. Is it me , got home at half eight and had two bottles of beer, wrote what I thought and know that we need a specialised right back then i get a post about me wanting to change the system. Where did you get that from,we should have replaced Dalsgard sorry spelt wrong. We never and it shows. It’s got nothing to do with changing a system. It’s got something to do with playing a specialised right back, i love Canos he is doing well. But square peg in round hole. You can analyse much as you like, on the pitch its 11against 11 conclusion is i cant spell and its you that’s pissed.
IMO we lost the game yesterday not because of any tactical failing, or player weakness, we just did not take our chances. Simples.
 
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