Final Score Bees 1 (Toney p) Everton 0 Att 16,957

[rebus]

Here is your Sunday night Fact Check courtesy of Untouchable (‘Return of the Facts’ edition):

1. Win 1-0 at home to Everton
2. First win in 6 games
3. First clean sheet in 8 games
4. Forget all this nonsense about Everton’s form and injuries, they’re a massive team and we’ve beaten them. Their team today includes the England goalkeeper; Seamus Coleman (300 PL appearances and 60 international caps); Ben Godfrey (signed for £25m); Andros Townsend (250 PL appearances); Doucoure (signed for £20m); Iwobi (signed for £28m and 50 international caps)
5. First league win v Everton since October 1953
6. Fernandez is getting better each game. Made an excellent save just after our goal. Handling and distribution much improved too.
7. Charlie Goode had a rock solid first PL start. I’m not interested in hearing from the haters - he’s come into a depleted team and done his job well. Keep it up Charlie
8. There is no better penalty taker than Ivan Toney right now. Watched Pickford shift his weight slightly to his left and then bang, ball is in the opposite corner. He’s all over the pitch too. Immense and irreplaceable
9. Wissa’s back! Only on the pitch for a handful of minutes but caused chaos. He’s going to score a hatful when he’s reestablished in the team
10. For anyone still thinking about complaining about the performance, 13 years ago we lost 2-1 away to Barrow in the 2nd Round of the FA Cup. Today, we’ve beaten Everton (9 times Champions of England and 5 times FA Cup winners) in the PL. Perspective please
11. Up to 12th in the PL
12. GD back up to 0
13. After 13 games, we’re only 2 (TWO) points behind Manchester United. Every BFC fan is taking that at the start of the season
14. We’re as close to the Champions League places as we are to the drop zone
15. 10 points clear of Newcastle and 7 points clear of Norwich and Burnley
16. For those keeping count, last season it took Fulham until match week 23 to reach 16 points; WBA until match week 26 and Sheffield United until match week 33
17. A special mention to the sun for blinding the Everton fans and shielding them from their teams abject performance
18. Spurs next. We haven’t played them in the league since 1949 and haven’t beaten them in the league since 1948. Our record against them is appalling. But they were embarrassed by NS Mura in their last game and Conte said the ‘situation is not simple’. I fancy Spurs are getting smashed

With apologies for the recent lack of post match Fact Checks. Mrs Untouchable is very poorly and recent news means her life limiting conditions have become a bit more troubling. Although I’ve continued to post on the GPG, it simply hasn’t felt as important.

THE VOICE OF REASON!

I wish we had more of you. Some of the comments on this thread are unbelievable! I am having the time of my life watching this club - I still look at the league table and shake my head in disbelief. Is it really us?!

We’ve got major players out and some not match fit in the squad and we’re 12th in the premier league. Yes, the premier league.

My striker is taking a penalty against the England goalkeeper and I had absolutely no doubt he’d score. The geezer is on the front cover of the pannini album! I got excited when we had one tatty sticker on page 45378!

Drink in every win, every goal because it doesn’t last forever!

 

[Garybaldbee]

Similarly, much opprobrium for Frank when Rico was subbed, despite the fact he'd got clattered by Sergi earlier on when those w*nkers wouldn't put the ball out.

To be fair some of us in the South Stand were completely oblivious to that incident. Mind you, it was obvious that Rico must have been injured because he clearly wouldn't have been subbed off otherwise.

 

[mhead bee]

Yes, the number of times I heard moans and groans about passing backwards (have these guys not watched us over the past few years, we’ve long had a strategy of going back or sideways if there’s nothing on?!) and being too slow while grumbling when an ambitious quick pass gets intercepted (we’re playing Everton, not Wycombe!) was annoying. If we were faster and more unerringly accurate with players making the perfect runs we’d be challenging top 4! Give them a chance and accept it’ll take more than 13 PL games to get up to that level!

I have some blokes behind me, back row just to left of the half way in north stand who are going right through me at the moment. All they care about is abusing the opposition fans and players and no support given to us. One bloke singles out a player evety game who will be called at full volue "you Chelsea/`Fulham/Scouse c u next T" over and over and over. This is mixed up with constant booing for that one player, I am not against any of this generally but the booing is in this whiney, skin crawling and fist clenching tone that goes right through you, it is constant for 90 minutes. Add to this he shouts out "time, time., youv'e got time, come on you've got time Brentford" in the same voice evertysingle time we get the ball.

I shouted back yesterday, we are taking time for christ sake, too much of it sometimes.

The bloke and some of his mates are ruining the whole experience for quite a few around that area.

Beumo hasn't had many comments - how did he play guys? (match not on tv here in South Africa).

He was excellent first half, plays of Toney's flicks and passes and causes havoc but can't buy a goal. Hit the post 8 times, he could be on double figures, had one chance yesterday when a pull back found him free on the edge of the area and he side footed it first time tamely to pickford he had time to sweep it onto his left foot and bury it but knowing him he would probably have tried to dink it or something and had it saved.

He needs to stop trying to curl it/place it in the top corner and maybe put his head down and smack in once in a while.

But the main point is he is part of one of the best forward partnerships in the division and is a total menace to defenders.

 

[filmyfan]

Another game won by the poorer xG side...

Take away our penalty (0.8) and it was a poor day for going forwards...

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MOTD had our XG as 2.1 I think....maybe i am wrong

 

[EarleyBee]

I thought the referee was awful. He missed Frank getting a kick to the face, let play go on a number of times when he shouldn't, and lost control completely at one point in the second half with players kicking off at each other.

I had hoped the level of referees would improve this season, but it seems to be much the same as the Chapionship.

 

[Billy Hunt]

Yes some players didn't perform to their ability and I think we all know one in particular who fluffed his lines with more or less every dead ball he took ownership of, but where does all this negativity and hostility come from? Against that, the noise from the stands was awesome listening to it on the TV, really proud how we roared them home and saw a few tweets from toffees saying how good the home support was yesterday.

Tiny, little brains

 

[HaylingBee74]

Another game won by the poorer xG side...

Take away our penalty (0.8) and it was a poor day for going forwards...

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[TW3Bee]

I had hoped the level of referees would improve this season, but it seems to be much the same as the Chapionship.

The first few were good, but the last few have been terrible

 

[SE5Bee]

Who is Willis?

Whatcha talkin bout Willis

 

[Gazza Bee]

Here is your Sunday night Fact Check courtesy of Untouchable (‘Return of the Facts’ edition):

1. Win 1-0 at home to Everton
2. First win in 6 games
3. First clean sheet in 8 games
4. Forget all this nonsense about Everton’s form and injuries, they’re a massive team and we’ve beaten them. Their team today includes the England goalkeeper; Seamus Coleman (300 PL appearances and 60 international caps); Ben Godfrey (signed for £25m); Andros Townsend (250 PL appearances); Doucoure (signed for £20m); Iwobi (signed for £28m and 50 international caps)
5. First league win v Everton since October 1953
6. Fernandez is getting better each game. Made an excellent save just after our goal. Handling and distribution much improved too.
7. Charlie Goode had a rock solid first PL start. I’m not interested in hearing from the haters - he’s come into a depleted team and done his job well. Keep it up Charlie
8. There is no better penalty taker than Ivan Toney right now. Watched Pickford shift his weight slightly to his left and then bang, ball is in the opposite corner. He’s all over the pitch too. Immense and irreplaceable
9. Wissa’s back! Only on the pitch for a handful of minutes but caused chaos. He’s going to score a hatful when he’s reestablished in the team
10. For anyone still thinking about complaining about the performance, 13 years ago we lost 2-1 away to Barrow in the 2nd Round of the FA Cup. Today, we’ve beaten Everton (9 times Champions of England and 5 times FA Cup winners) in the PL. Perspective please
11. Up to 12th in the PL
12. GD back up to 0
13. After 13 games, we’re only 2 (TWO) points behind Manchester United. Every BFC fan is taking that at the start of the season
14. We’re as close to the Champions League places as we are to the drop zone
15. 10 points clear of Newcastle and 7 points clear of Norwich and Burnley
16. For those keeping count, last season it took Fulham until match week 23 to reach 16 points; WBA until match week 26 and Sheffield United until match week 33
17. A special mention to the sun for blinding the Everton fans and shielding them from their teams abject performance
18. Spurs next. We haven’t played them in the league since 1949 and haven’t beaten them in the league since 1948. Our record against them is appalling. But they were embarrassed by NS Mura in their last game and Conte said the ‘situation is not simple’. I fancy Spurs are getting smashed

With apologies for the recent lack of post match Fact Checks. Mrs Untouchable is very poorly and recent news means her life limiting conditions have become a bit more troubling. Although I’ve continued to post on the GPG, it simply hasn’t felt as important.

Some things are far more important than football as I've learnt recently - hope your wife is OK

 

[Sussex Sage]

THE VOICE OF REASON!

I wish we had more of you. Some of the comments on this thread are unbelievable! I am having the time of my life watching this club - I still look at the league table and shake my head in disbelief. Is it really us?!

We’ve got major players out and some not match fit in the squad and we’re 12th in the premier league. Yes, the premier league.

My striker is taking a penalty against the England goalkeeper and I had absolutely no doubt he’d score. The geezer is on the front cover of the pannini album! I got excited when we had one tatty sticker on page 45378!

Drink in every win, every goal because it doesn’t last forever!

I suspect I was one of the few who watched yesterday's game who also watched our last home league win against Everton - on 5 October 1953 ! That was my first-ever Bees game, aged nine, and the beginning of a 68 year roller-coaster ride that, until the last few years, has seen a lot more lows than highs. I don't remember much about the game other than Billy Dare getting the decisive goal and I don't think yesterday's encounter will live long in the memory either . But all credit to the lads for a battling display that made up for in effort what it lacked in technical quality. We know we can play a lot better as we've shown in unlucky defeats against Chelsea and Leicester. But if we're going to enjoy PL football again next season of the year we just have to 'win ugly' sometimes. I'm throughly enjoying the PL experience and can't understand why some want to whinge or carp if we don't play established PL teams off the park. That isn't blind loyalty - just a recognition of how well we're doing with injuries and a relatively small budget.

 

[RAF_Patto]

If you can't enjoy us grinding out a result again a good team, with an international class manager, after a run of no win in 5 and no clean sheet since September then you sure as hell don't get to enjoy us at our sincilating best.

Some of you must be delusional if you're saying we're out of our depth. That game was about winning and doing it however we needed to.

Sure, some of the passing was questionable, the quality was lacking a little, but what we lacked in those departments we made up for in grit, determination and a steeliness to our game which has been lacking in recent weeks.

We repelled what we had to and took our opportunity when needed, although we could have scored more. Overall, very happy to take the points and move onto Tottenham with renewed confidence and clean sheet to boot.

 

[aawharris]

That'll be Jensen's fault

Surely Ghoddos' fault?

 

[marvelous007]

THE VOICE OF REASON!

I wish we had more of you. Some of the comments on this thread are unbelievable! I am having the time of my life watching this club - I still look at the league table and shake my head in disbelief. Is it really us?!

We’ve got major players out and some not match fit in the squad and we’re 12th in the premier league. Yes, the premier league.

My striker is taking a penalty against the England goalkeeper and I had absolutely no doubt he’d score. The geezer is on the front cover of the pannini album! I got excited when we had one tatty sticker on page 45378!

Drink in every win, every goal because it doesn’t last forever!

I agree with your post but I have something to moan about....

Why is Ivan not picked in the England squad?. (Has he played for Jamica)?. Serouisly, I've been wondering.

 

[JANORAK]

Another game won by the poorer xG side...

Take away our penalty (0.8) and it was a poor day for going forwards...

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Reading the Everton Boards, it would seem that the last thing they expect from Rondon is goals!

 

[red_and_white]

Another game won by the poorer xG side...

Take away our penalty (0.8) and it was a poor day for going forwards...

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Yes, I thought they were marginally better with what they created.

If you took away the penalty you'd need to add the XG for the Jansson chance straight after the high foot on Onyeka. I don't know if that would have been higher or lower than 0.8 but would still leave us shy of what Everton created (by this model anyway).

 

[sonofabee]

Not the best game of football but we have seen brilliant performances against Arsenal, Liverpool and Chelsea (ok we lost, but how good were we). I wonder if we getting a bit spoilt?.

Really proud of the team today, they had to work hard and yes, we not at our best. However, we have just beaten Everton in the PL. What's there to moan about, if you were there to witness it (or watch on tele) think yourself lucky.

I enjoyed the day out, the entertainment, the win! I also thought they was some class moments off the pitch with the tributes and applause to those that could Not be there.

Take Care out there.

COYB.

I took my daughter into the Dug Out seats with me and she loved it, she was amazed that we have beaten Arsenal, Wolves. West Ham and now Everton already this season.
Talk about coming down to earth with a bump after reading the negativity and criticism on here, you’d have thought we played rubbish and managed a draw against Rochdale !!!!

 

[Beeian]

Here is your Sunday night Fact Check courtesy of Untouchable (‘Return of the Facts’ edition):

1. Win 1-0 at home to Everton
2. First win in 6 games
3. First clean sheet in 8 games
4. Forget all this nonsense about Everton’s form and injuries, they’re a massive team and we’ve beaten them. Their team today includes the England goalkeeper; Seamus Coleman (300 PL appearances and 60 international caps); Ben Godfrey (signed for £25m); Andros Townsend (250 PL appearances); Doucoure (signed for £20m); Iwobi (signed for £28m and 50 international caps)
5. First league win v Everton since October 1953
6. Fernandez is getting better each game. Made an excellent save just after our goal. Handling and distribution much improved too.
7. Charlie Goode had a rock solid first PL start. I’m not interested in hearing from the haters - he’s come into a depleted team and done his job well. Keep it up Charlie
8. There is no better penalty taker than Ivan Toney right now. Watched Pickford shift his weight slightly to his left and then bang, ball is in the opposite corner. He’s all over the pitch too. Immense and irreplaceable
9. Wissa’s back! Only on the pitch for a handful of minutes but caused chaos. He’s going to score a hatful when he’s reestablished in the team
10. For anyone still thinking about complaining about the performance, 13 years ago we lost 2-1 away to Barrow in the 2nd Round of the FA Cup. Today, we’ve beaten Everton (9 times Champions of England and 5 times FA Cup winners) in the PL. Perspective please
11. Up to 12th in the PL
12. GD back up to 0
13. After 13 games, we’re only 2 (TWO) points behind Manchester United. Every BFC fan is taking that at the start of the season
14. We’re as close to the Champions League places as we are to the drop zone
15. 10 points clear of Newcastle and 7 points clear of Norwich and Burnley
16. For those keeping count, last season it took Fulham until match week 23 to reach 16 points; WBA until match week 26 and Sheffield United until match week 33
17. A special mention to the sun for blinding the Everton fans and shielding them from their teams abject performance
18. Spurs next. We haven’t played them in the league since 1949 and haven’t beaten them in the league since 1948. Our record against them is appalling. But they were embarrassed by NS Mura in their last game and Conte said the ‘situation is not simple’. I fancy Spurs are getting smashed

With apologies for the recent lack of post match Fact Checks. Mrs Untouchable is very poorly and recent news means her life limiting conditions have become a bit more troubling. Although I’ve continued to post on the GPG, it simply hasn’t felt as important.

Dear Untouchable, you gave me grief last season for being a bedwetter (which I don't believe I am) and I have posted very little since then, however whatever nothing is more important than your family and I was unaware of your wife being unwell for which I'm truly sorry and I hope that she recovers and gets well soon best wishes to you and your wife

 

[rebus]

I suspect I was one of the few who watched yesterday's game who also watched our last home league win against Everton - on 5 October 1953 ! That was my first-ever Bees game, aged nine, and the beginning of a 68 year roller-coaster ride that, until the last few years, has seen a lot more lows than highs. I don't remember much about the game other than Billy Dare getting the decisive goal and I don't think yesterday's encounter will live long in the memory either . But all credit to the lads for a battling display that made up for in effort what it lacked in technical quality. We know we can play a lot better as we've shown in unlucky defeats against Chelsea and Leicester. But if we're going to enjoy PL football again next season of the year we just have to 'win ugly' sometimes. I'm throughly enjoying the PL experience and can't understand why some want to whinge or carp if we don't play established PL teams off the park. That isn't blind loyalty - just a recognition of how well we're doing with injuries and a relatively small budget.

How wonderful you’ve seen us come full circle.

 

[marvelous007]

I took my daughter into the Dug Out seats with me and she loved it, she was amazed that we have beaten Arsenal, Wolves. West Ham and now Everton already this season.
Talk about coming down to earth with a bump after reading the negativity and criticism on here, you’d find have thought we played rubbish and managed a draw against Rochdale !!!!

Excellent post. Enjoy Spurs.

If we do win, the goals will be celebrated not just in West London and Hounslow bus stops, but all the way down the M3 and M4 corridors where most of us exiles seem to reside. Plus, our new friends in the Scandinavian Countries (Denmark, Norway and Finland). Potentially loads of support there.

Before I get carried away, I also remember playing Bury ( away lost 1v 0), Oldham and Doncaster (freezing in old ground) and of course Yeovil not soo long away!.

I would Not swap places with any of them.

Enjoy Thursday!.

 

[Banana]

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Yes but...they are not referenced by a person that knows what he is talking about

 

[sonofabee]

Excellent post. Enjoy Spurs.

If we do win, the goals will be celebrated not just in West London and Hounslow bus stops, but all the way down the M3 and M4 corridors where most of us exiles seem to reside. Plus, our new friends in the Scandinavian Countries (Denmark, Norway and Finland). Potentially loads of support there.

Before I get carried away, I also remember playing Bury ( away lost 1v 0), Oldham and Doncaster (freezing in old ground) and of course Yeovil not soo long away!.

I would Not swap places with any of them.

Enjoy Thursday!.

Spot on mate

 

[finsbury_bee]

Didn’t feel like a bigger attendance than Chelsea. Lots of empty seats around, more than the 43 required to get to 17k I’d have thought.

 

[Deanos196]

Anyone else think we “trialled” a pretty defensive shape in view of a difficult Christmas period?
Thought Toney stayed a little bit higher up
Canos,Henry not bomb on as much?
Until later in the game when we bought wissa and baptiste on
Just an observation May of been out of necessity

 

[Stanley]

Anyone else think we “trialled” a pretty defensive shape in view of a difficult Christmas period?
Thought Toney stayed a little bit higher up
Canos,Henry not bomb on as much?
Until later in the game when we bought wissa and baptiste on
Just an observation May of been out of necessity

Not really. I think they just pinned us back in our own half. We were trying to get more possession higher up the pitch but couldn't.

 

[nick logan]

I took my daughter into the Dug Out seats with me and she loved it, she was amazed that we have beaten Arsenal, Wolves. West Ham and now Everton already this season.
Talk about coming down to earth with a bump after reading the negativity and criticism on here, you’d have thought we played rubbish and managed a draw against Rochdale !!!!

makes me angry and sad, love coming on here but some jokers make me want to log off and not come back

 

[heebeegeebee]

makes me angry and sad, love coming on here but some jokers make me want to log off and not come back

If we were in the championship and beat Everton in a fa Cup game with that performance the majority of people would be ecstatic that we've just beaten one of the top ten established clubs in the country, all off a sudden its the worst match some of ever seen and it was a bad performance. A few seasons ago we would be dining out for weeks on that result. Some people are never happy unless they have something to complain about.

 

[sonofabee]

If we were in the championship and beat Everton in a fa Cup game with that performance the majority of people would be ecstatic that we've just beaten one of the top ten established clubs in the country, all off a sudden its the worst match some of ever seen and it was a bad performance. A few seasons ago we would be dining out for weeks on that result. Some people are never happy unless they have something to complain about.

Spot on agree 100%