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Firstly before I say how well we played lets put it into perspective and say this was a very poor staines side today who offered very little, however we did a professional job and could have had 10. Disappointed we took the foot off the gas the last 20 minutes and seemed content to play 1-2's with the keeper rather than go forward but it was very comfortable.

All round nobody had a bad game, people like mccormack, JD, CD, saville and Harris were so much better than them it was hard for them not to have exceptional games. Trotta put in anothe good shift, a great touch to set up reeves for a very good goal from a good move, Harris' goal was an absolute gem and will be watched over and over, Trotta's header a collectors item but to be fair I think I would have tipped it over and then CD back heeling in late on.

Just a couple of things that are worthy of note.

-We are playing possibly the weakest team we have faced including pre season friendlies in several years and Jake Reeves really looked poor first 25 mins, after his goal you saw the confidence flood back and he started to look like the player who was bursting through from the reserves last season and it was good to see.

-The really disappointing part of the day was how utterly dreadful Nugent was He must have passed the ball out of defence into the feet of a staines player 15 times today and when he went longer it went straight off the pitch. I would just say thanks to cardiff and send him back because this chap can not play against a league 1 team as it would be suicide.

- Why not give fillo a run out? We haven't see the fella play this season, he is only on loan so not exactly "one for the future" so give him 20 minutes or send him back.

- I really want it to work out for Grigg and I like what I have seen at times but todays last half hour cameo will be meat and drink for his anti-fans. Very weak and never once looked like he was ever going to get past that full back, he looked like the non league player today not the pro.

- Mccormack is a quality full back. I have consistently said get logan in and put him CM butr with JD back bossing the CM maybe this could be a masterstroke, we will see.

- Final points....get Harris for the season asap. Get Saville on a permanent a la forshaw asap.

Enjoyable aftenoon, its been many years since I have felt the game was won by half time so makes a pleasant change.
 

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What Mhead wrote but Grigg not as bad and was playing left wing . Sav and Kadeem oozed class, Staines were more like a Sunday league team though.
Good to see Marcus and he got a very good reception from The New Road.
 

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After a dreadfully sloppy start to the game where we gave the ball away time and time again with a few players looking like they were going to coast their way through the match, we finally pulled ourselves together and started to play some decent football. After Staines' resistance was broken with the penalty, we were completely dominant and scored two more (fantastic) goals before half-time to kill the game off. The first, a great team move with Reeves finishing well after a great flick by Trotta and the second, an absolute blockbuster from Harris who was again impressive.

We started the second half in much the same vein as we'd finished the first and added some gloss to the scoreline with a fantastic header ( :eek:) from Trotta over the keeper from a great cross. We coasted the last 20 minutes and kept Staines at bay for the most part until Clayton's back heel gave us a final cheer at the death. A professional performance all round and a good afternoon's entertainment.

A couple of observations:-

Defensively, I thought Nugent did very well but as noted about, his distribution will kill us against better opposition.

I don't understand Marcello at all. How can a player have such a deft touch inside the box, yet trap it further than I can kick it when he's receiving the ball elsewhere on the pitch ? How can he produce such an excellent header for the goal when he barely heads the ball anywhere else on the park ? He delights and frustrates in equal measure, but you can't get away from the fact he scores goals and he sets them up - essentially exactly what you want a forward to do.

Very disappointed to see Grigg stuck out on the left hand side when he came on. The lad spent all of last season playing centrally and asking a player whose confidence has taken a knock to play in an unfamiliar position just seems to have limited value to me. Irrespective of Trotta's performance today, I'd like to have seen Grigg play in his place to give him the chance to perform against lower league opposition and hopefully stake a claim.
 

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A good result for the Bees today i thought our best players were George Saville and Kadeem Harris.

Good to see Jake Reeves get on the score sheet.

Also thought ex Bees player Lewis Ferrell did well for Staines Town today.

UP THE BBBBBBBEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!
 

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It's a hard game to take a lot of satisfaction from.

Had the air of a pre season friendly really.

I hope for their sake that Staines froze on the day, as genuinely, I have played for better organised Sunday league teams. Did they have a mid field?

Nice to see us win well, but a hollow victory with a fair bit of glory hunting for the last 25 minutes.
 

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It's a hard game to take a lot of satisfaction from.

Had the air of a pre season friendly really.

I hope for their sake that Staines froze on the day, as genuinely, I have played for better organised Sunday
league teams. Did they have a mid field?

Nice to see us win well, but a hollow victory with a fair bit of glory hunting for the last 25 minutes.

They were poor but you can only beat what's in front of you and we did well once we scored the pen and kept a clean sheet. Job done efficiently and potential banana skin avoided.
 
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After a dreadfully sloppy start to the game where we gave the ball away time and time again with a few players looking like they were going to coast their way through the match, we finally pulled ourselves together and started to play some decent football. After Staines' resistance was broken with the penalty, we were completely dominant and scored two more (fantastic) goals before half-time to kill the game off. The first, a great team move with Reeves finishing well after a great flick by Trotta and the second, an absolute blockbuster from Harris who was again impressive.

We started the second half in much the same vein as we'd finished the first and added some gloss to the scoreline with a fantastic header ( :eek:) from Trotta over the keeper from a great cross. We coasted the last 20 minutes and kept Staines at bay for the most part until Clayton's back heel gave us a final cheer at the death. A professional performance all round and a good afternoon's entertainment.

A couple of observations:-

Defensively, I thought Nugent did very well but as noted about, his distribution will kill us against better opposition.

I don't understand Marcello at all. How can a player have such a deft touch inside the box, yet trap it further than I can kick it when he's receiving the ball elsewhere on the pitch ? How can he produce such an excellent header for the goal when he barely heads the ball anywhere else on the park ? He delights and frustrates in equal measure, but you can't get away from the fact he scores goals and he sets them up - essentially exactly what you want a forward to do.

Very disappointed to see Grigg stuck out on the left hand side when he came on. The lad spent all of last season playing centrally and asking a player whose confidence has taken a knock to play in an unfamiliar position just seems to have limited value to me. Irrespective of Trotta's performance today, I'd like to have seen Grigg play in his place to give him the chance to perform against lower league opposition and hopefully stake a claim.

Good summary OB :sorted:
 

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Professional win, job done, pleased to progress, in the bag, banana skin avoided, all the usual cliches you'd expect from this type if result and performance against a non league side.

The key in these type of games is getting an early goal and as soon as we went ahead the result was never in doubt. Staines started with intensity and high pressing as you'd expect but as always with non league sides, fitness is always a big sous and they were never going to keep up the intensity for long. A needless handball from a corner have us a penalty, McCormack was the surprise taker in the absence of Forshaw and Grigg and he tucked it away nicely into the corner. Harris and Bidwell began to cause more problems down the left and Reeves was able to double the lead after some lovely short touch passing between him and Trotta and Reeves squirmed his shot under the body of the keeper. The game was all over just a couple of minutes later with a world class strike from Harris cutting in from the left after receiving the ball with his back to goal and firing an unstoppable right footed drive that flew past their keeper before he could move. Reminded me a lot of Forrester's against Sheffield Utd last season.

The two goals in quick succession effectively ended the tie as a contest and the second half was played out in a rather calm and uncompetitive style, allowing us to make changes and give players some much needed game time. Trotta scored an excellent header, getting in between the centre backs and looping a header over the keeper who perhaps might have done better. Felt we became a little complacent after that, Saville was guilty of greediness on a couple of occasions trying to score when an easier pass was on and two or three times we broke clear against a tiring side but couldn't find the finish, Reeves firing just wide with the best chance. The game rather petered out with Button only having to make regulation saves as Staines looked for a consolation. Donaldson made it give in stoppage time with a clever flick after a goal mouth scramble and we were into the 2nd round with a very comfortable win.

You can only beat the opposition in front of you and we all know that these games can be tricky and the proverbial banana skin is always on the cards. Harris was outstanding and has made such a difference since he's been with us, there was an element of Forrester in his play the way he can go either way and makes it so difficult for the full back to pick him up. A season long loan is a must.

Thought Saville was classy and at times way too good but got a bit greedy near the end. Trotta scored again and is improving each game and seems to enjoy playing in that position a lot more.

I really like Reeves and it was great seeing him on the scoresheet. He had a good passing range and can switch play well but part of me thinks he slows us down a little sometimes wanting one or two touches more than needed. He's no Forshaw but if he keeps improving then he's not a bad option to be able to bring into midfield.

McCormack moving to right back has been a masterstroke by Rosler which we must give him credit for, don't think anyone saw that coming but we have looked so much more solid defensively with him playing at right back and today got forward too well.

Nugent is a big lad bland his defending was fine today but his distribution was shocking. Continually giving the ball away and passing to empty space and failed to put Bidwell through when an easy pass was on. Harlee Dean he is not.

5 wins in a row now in all competitions, another against a struggling Crewe side next week would set us up perfectly for Wolves and Peterborough.
 

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Very disappointed to see Grigg stuck out on the left hand side when he came on.
While I agree with your summary, Grigg actually played up top for 20 minutes until El Alagui came on, when he moved out left.
 

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Grigg is so low on confidence. But, I did say that I couldn't see why we had bought him. Not very pacey, not very strong, not a flair player either. We have Clayton who is pacey and direct. We have Farid who is superb in the air. We have Trotta who has the flair. Why did Uwe buy him unless he has a strike partner?

Anyway, we did the job required. Staines were worse than I expected though. Delighted for the team.

Button did what he needed to when required.
McCormack looks to be as good in that position as any.
Craig was his usual assured self.
Nugent is truly appalling. Why defend him? He's abysmal.
Bidwell was his usual self.
Douglas was busy.
Reeves got better as the game went on and also played the pass of the match.
Saville bossed it.
Harris is the kind of left winner that defenders have nightmare about.
Clayton was suitably busy.
Trotta was well up for it.
Grigg was short on confidence.
Dave is limited.
Farid looked lively enough but I can see why Trotta is getting the nod.

Very enjoyable. I'm going to my doghouse though. Dragged my gf to GP even though it's her birthday. Suffering for it by waiting outside shops in Westfield as a result.
 

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Grigg is so low on confidence. But, I did say that I couldn't see why we had bought him. Not very pacey, not very strong, not a flair player either. We have Clayton who is pacey and direct. We have Farid who is superb in the air. We have Trotta who has the flair. Why did Uwe buy him unless he has a strike partner

Anyway, we did the job required. Staines were worse than I expected though. Delighted for the team.

Button did what he needed to when required.
McCormack looks to be as good in that position as any.
Craig was his usual assured self.
Nugent is truly appalling. Why defend him? He's abysmal.
Bidwell was his usual self.
Douglas was busy.
Reeves got better as the game went on and also played the
pass of the match.
Saville bossed it.
Harris is the kind of left winner that defenders have nightmare about.
Clayton was suitably busy.
Trotta was well up for it.
Grigg was short on confidence.
Dave is limited.
Farid looked lively enough but I can see why Trotta is getting the nod.

Very enjoyable. I'm going to my doghouse though. Dragged
my gf to GP even though it's her birthday. Suffering for it by waiting outside shops in Westfield as a result.

Harsh on Toumani (as he has asked to be called or Toums if you can't pronounce) as bar one run when he over ran it he bossed the second half.
 

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Harsh on Toumani (as he has asked to be called or Toums if you can't pronounce) as bar one run when he over ran it he bossed the second half.

Maybe, but I think we've moved on from a player like him. I truly like him but he is limited. He rarely bosses a game. He's great to have our squad but I just don't think he's all that.
 

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Harsh on Toumani (as he has asked to be called or Toums if you can't pronounce) as bar one run when he over ran it he bossed the second half.

And was considerably more effective than Douglas IMO.
 

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Maybe, but I think we've moved on from a player like him. I truly like him but he is limited. He rarely bosses a game. He's great to have our squad but I just don't think he's all that.

I wouldn't start him in my best 11 but felt your description of him as limited if based on today's performance was harsh.
 

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we score 5, keep a clean sheet and still some muppets find things to moan about, it really beggars belief !
 

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I thought Toumani was excellent. But he was up against an invisible midfield today.

To be fair I am a big fan of his.
 

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Staines were very poor. Decent win from us. Would have liked to see more reserve players selected
 

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we score 5, keep a clean sheet and still some muppets find things to moan about, it really beggars belief !

I think it's more constructive criticism than outright moaning tbh, well, most of it anyway.
 

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I'm not moaning. I have an opinion, and that is I think he's limited. If you think otherwise, then great. Maybe I've missed something. I've changed my opinions on players before. This is a discussion forum after all.
 

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Result was never in doubt. Some good passing moves from Bees (after the first 20 minutes when it was all a bit casual). Good to see us close down the opposition. Staines kept going and attacking, leaving themselves rather open at the back. Some of their play on the ball was quite good but they didn't really see enough of it to worry Bees.
Some classy goals, a sportmanlike game, a better than expected crowd and some good passages of positive play - lots of chances that weren't converted as well. Pleased we're in the hat for Round 2.
 

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It was Nugent's slide pass that set Harris on his way to his wonder goal.
 

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It was Nugent's slide pass that set Harris on his way to his wonder goal.

I'd be interested to see if it was "slide" pass that set him up. If you're implying something from it, then I don't think it turns him into a decent player. If you didn't imply anything from it, then thanks for pointing it out. Nugent still had a shocker.
 
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It was Nugent's slide pass that set Harris on his way to his wonder goal.

Even a blind squirrel will stumble across the occasional acorn. We have got some of the best players in the division and the gulf was evident against Staines today as our players looked top quality without breaking sweat. Unfortunately Nugent was appalling throughout as he has been every time he has played. Not negative moaning, a mere fact that if we get another suspension or injury we need a taylor not a nugent against posh and wolves.
 

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Even a blind squirrel will stumble across the occasional acorn. We have got some of the best players in the division and the gulf was evident against Staines today as our players looked top quality without breaking sweat. Unfortunately Nugent was appalling throughout as he has been every time he has played. Not negative moaning, a mere fact that if we get another suspension or injury we need a taylor not a nugent against posh and wolves.

His distribution was very poor I'll grant you, but I think to label him as appalling throughout suggests that he was defensively deficient as well which is wrong IMO. He was actually very proficient in the way he defended I thought.
 

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Not having been to the last few matches, I was delighted to see what a difference Harris makes, rather like having Harry back in the team again. He also found time to track back, and was ably supported by Bidwell going forward.
 

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Not negative moaning, a mere fact that if we get another suspension or injury we need a taylor not a nugent against posh and wolves.

But cost comes into it. I imagine Taylor's Wednesday salary would make him the best paid player in our squad, whereas Nugent is obviously a great deal cheaper. Nugent's distribution was infuriating today, but defensively he won every header and tackle he went for, plus got an assist. I'd much rather have a physical center back who can't play football, than a ball playing center back who can't defend. Players at League One level will have their limitations, and unless we see an injury or suspension to HD or TC, I very much doubt we'll see Nugent in a starting eleven for a league game.

Regarding the game, it was a fun run out for most of our players. Everyone did a job. Was good to see Button as composed as ever - that cross field pass to Bidwell in the first half was class - Saville was excellent again and Harris had a blinder! 5 in a row with a rubbish Crewe in a weeks time. I'd like to think we could get 3 points out of our two games against P'boro and Wolves, and that could put us in good stead for the run up to Christmas.
 

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we score 5, keep a clean sheet and still some muppets find things to moan about, it really beggars belief !

for probably the only time in my life i actually agree with you ;)

5-0 could have been 12-0 if it werent for their keeper and some poor finishing....you can only beat whats in front of you and once the pen went in it was one way traffic.....we were ok and they were poor but the gulf in class was a chasm and our passing going forward to pretty decent in the main.......grigg was rubbish when he came on and im close to giving up on him completely....just doesnt look that interested and is weak.....thought clayton was superb 2nd half and made up for his poor game last week.....decent crowd and everyone went home happy......nothing to moan about today ;)
 

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Professional job done, into the next round. We did what we needed to do and what is becoming obvious to me is the importance of Harris now to our threat going forward, even against Staines we were not the same team when he went off. Except for Clayton and Jake Reeves thought everyone had decent games, however Clayton looked isolated most of the time, and missed 2/3 glorious chances. Was waiting for JR to impose himself on the game but it never happened really, maybe it did not have to. Difficult to get excited it was almost routine, but it was a job well done.
 

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And was considerably more effective than Douglas IMO.

However, there can be no doubt at all, that we have looked and performed as a better team since his return from injury. For me a fit Douglas would always be the first player on the team sheet every week.
 

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When's the draw?

We played OK. nice to see us score some goals. Third and fourth were quality.

Wasn't Much of a contest.

Into round 2!
 

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I didn't go. The opening comments sum up football fans at BFC ( and beyond). We won 5-0 in the end. Don't be so incisive in your judgements.
5-0?10-0?1-0? Cash banked and we all have a reason to get out of bed and watch the draw on Sunday!
 

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Well, easy pickings. Staines were fortunate to get off so lightly. But for some weak finishing it could have been 8 or 9. Perhaps Staines could have made more of a game of it if they'd pressed a little higher up the pitch. Their back four played so deep that we had acres of space in midfield.

Ratings:

Button 7 - kept his concentration well despite long spells out the game.
MacCormack 7 - very solid; we look a lot sounder on the right side now.
Craig 7 - faultless if somewhat untested.
Nugent 7 - won practically every challenge; distribution patchy but a very dominant performance.
Bidwell 8 - coming back to his best though this was a pretty easy afternoon. Some fabulous crosses.
Reeves 7 - nicely taken goal and some crisp passing.
Douglas 6 - still a bit rusty which is understandable.
Saville 7 - always in the thick of it; an industrious performance.
Harris 8 (MOM) - our biggest threat; pacey and dangerous; fantastic strike.
Trotta 5 - two productive touches (the header and the assist for goal #2) but otherwise clumsy and laboured.
Donaldson 7 - very busy; kept getting into great goal-scoring positions and should have had a hat-trick.

Substitutes: Grigg 6, Disgorger 7, Allergy 5.

Overall, a very professional performance. Without really hitting the heights we slaughtered them.
 

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How anyone give Nugent more than a 4 is beyond me. One of the worst players ever to put on a Brentford shirt after todays performance.
 

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Trotta 5 - two productive touches (the header and the assist for goal #2) but otherwise clumsy and laboured.
Donaldson 7 - very busy; kept getting into great goal-scoring positions and should have had a hat-trick.
Grigg 6.
I think you need to review your scores! You've given the player who made the greatest contribution to the ACTUAL result, making and scoring goals, your lowest; a player who contributed almost nothing your middle and; a player who did nothing much except fail to get close to crosses and knocked in the ball in a goal-mouth mêlée close to the end one of your best! I'm afraid "should have" doesn't win games.
 

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Viewed it from the Wendy House and was able to conclude:

1) You were a right bunch of miserable t*****s for the first 20 mins :wave:
2) The gulf in class was immense (compare us to Gillingham who needed a 97th minute equaliser against Conference North Brackley)
3) Harris can fire us to promotion if Rosler signs him for the season
4) Staines were not as bad as some on here are making out as they tried to play it out from the back at least
5) I love the FA Cup
 

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Thanks for all the reports,not there today but sounds like an accomplished win and that's all we had to do.Was hoping that Grigg would have got a start but no one seems that impressed with his 30 minutes today.I thought that Nugent would have improved from when I saw him play against us for Cardiff when he looked poor but looking on here it seems this hasn't happened.Ah well back to the grindstone next week v Crewe.
 

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Viewed it from the Wendy House and was able to conclude:

1) You were a right bunch of miserable t*****s for the first 20 mins :wave:
2) The gulf in class was immense (compare us to Gillingham who needed a 97th minute equaliser against Conference North Brackley)
3) Harris can fire us to promotion if Rosler signs him for the season
4) Staines were not as bad as some on here are making out as they tried to play it out from the back at least
5) I love the FA Cup

Were there many Bees in the WH? Did you openly celebrate
when we scored and if so what was the reaction of the Swans?
 

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Professional job done, into the next round. We did what we needed to do and what is becoming obvious to me is the importance of Harris now to our threat going forward, even against Staines we were not the same team when he went off. Except for Clayton and Jake Reeves thought everyone had decent games, however Clayton looked isolated most of the time, and missed 2/3 glorious chances. Was waiting for JR to impose himself on the game but it never happened really, maybe it did not have to. Difficult to get excited it was almost routine, but it was a job well done.

Have never been a huge Reeves fan but I thought he was excellent today
 

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How anyone give Nugent more than a 4 is beyond me. One of the worst players ever to put on a Brentford shirt after todays performance.

It's all about opinions Greenham.
In mine:
I don't recall Nugent having to make a tackle - thankfully.
He won headers without any pressure from a Staines player- most of which looped upwards rather than to a player or forward.
As reported by others his distribution/passing was woeful - unless it was a back pass to Button.
Basically I'm with you on this one.
 

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we score 5, keep a clean sheet and still some muppets find things to moan about, it really beggars belief !

Think you'll find most of the GPGers are moaning at each other and their varying oinions on players relative merits rather than the performance or scoreline...so who is the Muppet?
 

Balders Bee

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After a dreadfully sloppy start to the game where we gave the ball away time and time again with a few players looking like they were going to coast their way through the match, we finally pulled ourselves together and started to play some decent football. After Staines' resistance was broken with the penalty, we were completely dominant and scored two more (fantastic) goals before half-time to kill the game off. The first, a great team move with Reeves finishing well after a great flick by Trotta and the second, an absolute blockbuster from Harris who was again impressive.

We started the second half in much the same vein as we'd finished the first and added some gloss to the scoreline with a fantastic header ( :eek:) from Trotta over the keeper from a great cross. We coasted the last 20 minutes and kept Staines at bay for the most part until Clayton's back heel gave us a final cheer at the death. A professional performance all round and a good afternoon's entertainment.

A couple of observations:-

Defensively, I thought Nugent did very well but as noted about, his distribution will kill us against better opposition.

I don't understand Marcello at all. How can a player have such a deft touch inside the box, yet trap it further than I can kick it when he's receiving the ball elsewhere on the pitch ? How can he produce such an excellent header for the goal when he barely heads the ball anywhere else on the park ? He delights and frustrates in equal measure, but you can't get away from the fact he scores goals and he sets them up - essentially exactly what you want a forward to do.

Very disappointed to see Grigg stuck out on the left hand side when he came on. The lad spent all of last season playing centrally and asking a player whose confidence has taken a knock to play in an unfamiliar position just seems to have limited value to me. Irrespective of Trotta's performance today, I'd like to have seen Grigg play in his place to give him the chance to perform against lower league opposition and hopefully stake a claim.

Good assessment of the game IMHO. Grigg did have a spell at the central forward position for a good twenty minutes before Faird came on and was relatively quiet in all honesty. Farid charged on like a hyper active child who had drunk too much fizzy for his 20 minute cameo. The latter looked like he really wanted to make an impression whilst poor old Grigg seemed very much playing within himself. Interesting to see Uwe come out early for the second half and spend a few minutes talking to Grigg. Do agree that Grigg should maybe have started as he really needs something to ignite his Bees career.

Harris again showed what a talent he is, worked hard defensively as well today- the lad is improving. Today was as near as you will ever get to a stress free game at GP.
 
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