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Forster out etc.
 
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We would have beaten them against 11 men. Against 10 we had far too much time and space which led to their gift of a goal.
It ended up one of the most one sided games you will see all year but in reality we only have ourselves to blame for dropping two points having deservedly got our selves into a winning position with the penalty decision.
They are a horrible dirty side as you would expect with Ince's side.
Frustrating would sum up the night.
 

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Just back. I thought we played some excellent football tonight. Felt sorry for Neilson. He had an excellent game at centre back but dropped a bo**ock to gift them the lead after they had been chasing shadows through the first half. Second half more of the same. We didn't let desperation push us into the long ball game and continued to play well. Got a deserved equaliser and should have won it in the end. Poor Simmo. Nothing seems to be going for him at the mo. Good substitutions by Fozzy too. Still think we need a change with the front two. Charlie worked hard but wasn't a threat. Only change I'd make is someone in for Charlie.
As for County. What can I say. They will be happy with a point in the circs but they are crap. Rubbish side [ at least we made them look that way which is indicative of the progress we are making].Not sure where tonight leaves Pim. Neilson in at centre back must have been a blow but Neilson played very well apart from one costly error.
Happy with that.:)
 

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The game should have been abandoned due to excess red cards. They are a DISGRACE to the game.
 

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Frustrating wouldn't come close to describing that. Two errors lead to us not winning that (their goal and the penalty miss), but I've been very impressed by the ability and attitude of the two perpetrators since they've been with the club - so I don't think it's necessarily fair to point the finger at anyone.

Forster made sensible substitutions which saw us not having a look in, to go to within a whisper of victory. Wash a shame to see myles go off, but he sometimes seems to struggle on that type of sodden/scuffed pitch. Thought Dave had another great game tonight, didn't put a foot wrong.

Overall it's encouraging to see us unbeaten in six (?), I just hope we don't go on a run and then miss out on the play-off's by one point!!
 

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Just back. I thought we played some excellent football tonight. Felt sorry for Neilson. He had an excellent game at centre back but dropped a bo**ock to gift them the lead after they had been chasing shadows through the first half. Second half more of the same. We didn't let desperation push us into the long ball game and continued to play well. Got a deserved equaliser and should have won it in the end. Poor Simmo. Nothing seems to be going for him at the mo. Good substitutions by Fozzy too. Still think we need a change with the front two. Charlie worked hard but wasn't a threat. Only change I'd make is someone in for Charlie.
As for County. What can I say. They will be happy with a point in the circs but they are crap. Rubbish side [ at least we made them look that way which is indicative of the progress we are making].Not sure where tonight leaves Pim. Neilson in at centre back must have been a blow but Neilson played very well apart from one costly error.
Happy with that.:)

completely agree with NONE of that.
 

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Woodman is in need of a rest, Neilson was woeful as was bean.. Charlie looks like his heart is not in it since Scott went... We were nit good at all but what an absolute disgrace notts county are.. We seem to always have trouble on the pitch with them.. Horrible team
 

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How anyone who went can say we didn't play well amazes me...can't say Neilson was fantastic tbh, Dave and Saunders were class, however.
 
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agree Woodman looks very tired the last few games, dont blame him at all hes still putting in good shifts, hes played every second this season, so fair play!
Ince and Rae are a disgrace to football. Bully tactics, cheating, screaming to the lino many times, shouting and clapping sarcasticly at the ref, etc!
Easily a sending off the first one, two professional fouls and that bald headed jock crying to the ref about it!
Worst footballing team ive seen, that wound me up the most this evening.
We still lack up top!
Didnt think we would get a draw so im not to gutted but so unlucky Simpson hit the post :(
Oh well i see it has still un defeated and we play better football.
The sending off didnt help because we had way too much time on the ball, we would have beaten them 11vs11!
 

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Two points dropped. When they went down to 10 men we had lots of possession but didn't look at all threatening. We had four defenders dealing with one striker and I couldn't believe we didn't bring one off for a winger or striker at half time and push Saunders in behind the front two to make use if the possession.

It was clear as the second half went on that nothing was going to change and I was surprised it took until the 60th minute to make the substitutions. Simpson made a difference and Byrne made things happen, they were sh*t scared of him. From that point we looked more likely to score and without Mac and SGA we had another dimension going forward. Should have won it with the pen and maybe Kev or Saunders should have had it but in fairness I thought Simpson would do the job.

The most worrying thing about tonight was moving Neilson from RB to accommodate Kev! I thought he had a great game there on Saturday contributing both at the back and going forward and Kev, for me, offered less in both departments. This was while we had two CBs on the bench!!! It was a decision too reminiscent of the previous regime for my liking..... Kev does not have a divine right to a place in the team!!!!

Lastly... Dave and Saunders were very good again, Bean, Weston, SGA and Mac werent great, the latter two look stale and need a rest.
 

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Woodman is in need of a rest, Neilson was woeful as was bean.. Charlie looks like his heart is not in it since Scott went... We were nit good at all but what an absolute disgrace notts county are.. We seem to always have trouble on the pitch with them.. Horrible team

Don't get the Neilson woeful bit. Sure he made one bad mistake but he held his position well and his passing from the back was excellent IMO.
 

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Really dissapointing tonight. We played some really nice football at times but allowed our desire to keep possession get the better of us at times (highlighted in their goal). However I'd take us playing attractive "keep ball" football and make the odd mistake any time ahead of Scott's hoofball.

County were a total disgrace - players diving, cheating and fouling all over the place. Ince must hold his head in shame; to think he was once a Premiership manager!

Woodman definitely needs a rest - looked tired tonight and played some lazy balls.

Nielson showed exactly what he is - a Championship player on loan. Really calm and accompished at times then he'd do something really daft.

Worried about the stiker situation - with Cort gone and Forster otherwise engaged we look light up front. Alexander looked tired, Charlie struggled and I'm not sure we've got the class to come off the bench.

Other than that though good to see us actually try and entertain the fans.
 

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Aaaaarghhhhhh ..... with loads of "you **** Ince" .......... and then some "yesssssssss at last" ............. followed by some "come on, oh nooooooooooo" ..........and finally fuccccccckkkkkkkkk.


Thought we played well at times but the forwards were rubbish tonight. :( Charlie ....... hmm, not good.
 

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The actions of paul Ince and his assistant in berating the officials were a disgrace to the game. Their team were a bunch of yobs, constant vindictive fouls that should have been treated as violent conduct if considered within their own right. ridiculous

We were poor with a number of players putting in very poor games. Woodman and Bean were very very bad and macdonald looked tired and was not really involved. We had a huge amount of possesion but couldnt make it count, gave away a foolish goal from Nielson getting in a mess who should not have been playing CB with pim on the bench. Karleigh got a good goal but so gutted that we didnt put the penalty away and beat them, they dont deserve to get anything playing that kind of game. Paul Ince had the same kind of team at MK last year but Rae should have been sent to the stands for how he treated the officilas and arguing with the brentford staff. utter disgrace
 

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Two points dropped. When they went down to 10 men we had lots of possession but didn't look at all threatening. We had four defenders dealing with one striker and I couldn't believe we didn't bring one off for a winger or striker at half time and push Saunders in behind the front two to make use if the possession.

It was clear as the second half went on that nothing was going to change and I was surprised it took until the 60th minute to make the substitutions. Simpson made a difference and Byrne made things happen, they were sh*t scared of him. From that point we looked more likely to score and without Mac and SGA we had another dimension going forward. Should have won it with the pen and maybe Kev or Saunders should have had it but in fairness I thought Simpson would do the job.

The most worrying thing about tonight was moving Neilson from RB to accommodate Kev! I thought he had a great game there on Saturday contributing both at the back and going forward and Kev, for me, offered less in both departments. This was while we had two CBs on the bench!!! It was a decision too reminiscent of the previous regime for my liking..... Kev does not have a divine right to a place in the team!!!!

Lastly... Dave and Saunders were very good again, Bean, Weston, SGA and Mac werent great, the latter two look stale and need a rest.

Agree with that completely.. Good post. Get that man a drink
 

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I'm still flying.Ince and Notts must be the biggest disgrace in the football league at the moment.The ref didn't help and Ince had the bloody cheek to delay the start of the second half by wondering on like he owned the place,i could go on and on.I will def be at the away game praying i can get in ear shot of Ince.
We should have had the 3 points, our tactics where just not right for playing against a 10 men Incy team.I felt for Simpson at the end.
 

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It was a decision too reminiscent of the previous regime for my liking..... Kev does not have a divine right to a place in the team!!!!

I'm sure Nicky agrees with you but he would not pick him if he thought the team was gonna be made weaker. I'm agree the team didn't need changing.
 

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We did well second half against a packed defence,and another game unbeaten.

I have seen several people post about how good Nielson is,well its all about opinions but not to my eye.

Brings absolutely nothing to the team...has Pim regressed so badly that we need to play this joker at CB?!
 

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Apart from the goal Nelson didnt have a save to make? We didnt play 'very well', we had a lot of possession but did very little with it.

We should have made the extra man count, but we had no cutting edge. Notts County were animals, but that doesnt excuse the performance. We were woeful against 10 men, and that was a sloppy goal to give away. Our front 2 were both poor and got muscled out of the game all night.

We didnt deserve to win, but County deserved to lose. They were a vile, vile team. Shame Simpson missed the penalty, but why was he taking it in the first place?
 

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Frustrating night but... we deserved a point on Saturday and got three so can't really object to the reverse happening tonight.

Firstly, the positives - brilliant to see football on the floor: patience, passing - they're using the outside of the boot for God's sake! I think Lee must've rolled the ball out more times in the second half tonight than we've seen from a keeper in the last two years. This is a style of play I'm happy to watch and delighted Nicky Forster has been rewarded with a contract until the end of the season. Also pleased for Karleigh getting the goal - he looked more comfortable tonight (not that they were doing much attacking).

However, I'm not so sure I agree with everything Forster did tonight. I couldn't understand the defence - Neilson has been quality at right back, we had two decent centre backs on the bench and Kev is just so SLOW in thought, movement... everything. I love Kev but he should be on the bench at present. In the second half, Neilson was both centre back AND overlapping full back - doing Kev's job! I know he made an Arsenal-style error for their goal but he has class and that 60 yard ball he sprayed over to Saunders was top quality.

Likewise, it's hard to see the front two cutting it in a team that passes the ball. Charlie has been great and gives everything but what is he offering us at present? The lack of pace up top is killing us and we were crying out for Bignall or Grabban a hell of a lot earlier than the 86th minute. I like the look of Byrne but why for Weston? It left us with as much pace as we had before - i.e. one player out of eleven.

But even after that minor moaning (it's been a long day!) it is SUCH a pleasure to watch a team pass, pass, pass and wait for the chance. It feels like our opponents have been outpassing us all season but last 3 games we've been up against rubbish hoofball while we play the football, long may it continue!

And what can you say about Notts County? Seven yellows, two reds - and they didn't even get any bookings for timewasting! The first man off should've gone 5 minutes earlier when he hauled down Weston. I would be ashamed to support them, it's as simple as that.

Congratulations Nicky Forster - richly deserved contract for the results so far, learn from nights like tonight and you'll make yourself a top manager.
 

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Gutted. Feels like a defeat. Bishop man of the match, done everything necessary to earn Notts C a point, legal or otherwise. Mug.
 

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So angry about the penalty......why did Simpson take the ball of off Saunders, just because he won the penalty doesn't give him the divine right to take it either.

Captain should have pulled rank and nominated the taker..........which should have been Sam as he's our best dead ball specialist.

Horrible team, horrible manager

Why did it take so long to haul off GA and Mac both were very poor.........

Fozzy needs to show a bit more balls in that department.........
 

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Gutted not to win against the cloggers. Didnt think we built enough pressure or played with enough urgency until very late. Still did enough to win though. No idea why Weston trudged slowly off while the clock ran down. Mac very quiet, worst I've seen Woodman in terms of wasted passes and I'm fairly certain another manager got pilloried for playing players out of position (Neilson tonight) to accomodate Kev. Shame about the pen, I actually thought Simmo made a difference when he came on - was on his toes and kept the ball ticking over nicely. Very intelligent runner off the ball.

Our goal whilst very enjoyable was also very surreal - what on earth was Nelson doing ? !

Oh and Neil Bishop is rapidly becoming my least favourite players. Playacting, timewasting, bellyaching cheat.
 

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PS I thought the referee wasted more time than anyone on the pitch. Really irritating
 

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So angry about the penalty......why did Simpson take the ball of off Saunders, just because he won the penalty doesn't give him the divine right to take it either.

Captain should have pulled rank and nominated the taker..........which should have been Sam as he's our best dead ball specialist.
Fozzy needs to show a bit more balls in that department.........

Fairly certain it was Simmo who should have taken the one that Myles missed at Exeter earlier in the season. It's a merry go round of missed penalties.
 

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Typical Paul Ince side very much the same with mk dons last year at home except last year they had none sent off. Dirty ****s.
feel sorry for simmo deserved a goal. played some nice stuff it seems like all are goals in last couple games have all come from saunders crosses.
Point gained rather than 2 points dropped in my view never easy to break down 10 men.
 

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Not sure we needed a back 4 against 1 forward for 70mins? They offered nothing going forward and surely a more attack minded player on for Kev or Woodman could have helped.

After they got the goal I thought it would be one of those nights where we have lots of ball but create nothing. People on here going crazy about Saunders, I thought he did ok but nothing more tonight. Weston went missing. Again.

Dave looks better every game. Front two aren't great, Charlie contributed nothing all night, same for Alexander.

While its great to pass it around I think we need to learn to do it in the right areas of the pitch - didn't we all learn at school that you don't pass across your own goal on a wet bobbly pitch?

Shame about the pen miss, you should never really miss a freebie, but think we used up a fair bit of luck against Tranny and Rovers so this was one too far.
 

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I can't believe the game some people see??

I thought in most parts we were poor, lacking in conviction, nothing up front and the first managerial blunder in setting up since Forster took over.

Notts County were simply the worst side that I have seen for ages, yet they hit the bar, scored against the run of play, played the majority of the game with ten men, went down to nine and still we couldn't break them down.

I wasn't there on Saturday but I heard that Neilson played well at right back so why change it to bring Kev back?
Neilson doesn't look like a centre back and we had Pim and Legge on the bench???
Kevin hardly looked fit which is being kind because he was poor tonight, first touch awful.

Woodman had the worst game I've seen him play and Bean? Well I just can't see how the bloke gets in the side...

We are playing with more freedom and heart but I just worry that any manager that comes in will only have the same squad to play with as most of the players are on 2/3 year contracts, the reason for the worry is that it is not good enough to challenge for promotion, simple as...

Saunders I thought had a good first half and looked lively although after having an altercation with the Paddock at half time, lost it in the second period.
Myles wasn't at the races and needs to hug the line and give us proper width like the Spurs kid did when he came on.

Nelson hardly had a save to make and how many more penalties are we going to miss????

We are playing with more freedom and trying to knock the ball around but the new manager that comes in will only have the same players to play as most are on 2/3 year contracts... the plain fact is, they are not good enough....
 
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Simpson just tweeted it's the first career pen he's missed - even more gutted now! Hit it so well but you have to get it on target from 12 yards.

Just have to keep telling myself I'd have taken seven points out of nine 8 days ago and move on.
 

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I can't believe the game some people see??

I thought in most parts we were poor, lacking in conviction, nothing up front and the first managerial blunder in setting up since Forster took over.

Notts County were simply the worst side that I have seen for ages, yet they hit the bar, scored against the run of play, played the majority of the game with ten men, went down to nine and still we couldn't break them down.

I wasn't there on Saturday but I heard that Neilson played well at right back so why change it to bring Kev back?
Neilson doesn't look like a centre back and we had Pim and Legge on the bench???
Kevin hardly looked fit which is being kind because he was poor tonight, first touch awful.

Woodman had the worst game I've seen him play and Bean? Well I just can't see how the bloke gets in the side...

Saunders I thought hada good first half and looked lively although after having an altercation with the Paddock at half time, lost it in the second period.
Myles wasn't at the races and needs to hug the line and give us proper width like the Spurs kid did when he came on.

Nelson hardly had a save to make and how many more penalties are we going to miss????

:imwith:
 

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Aaaaarghhhhhh ..... with loads of "you **** Ince" .......... and then some "yesssssssss at last" ............. followed by some "come on, oh nooooooooooo" ..........and finally fuccccccckkkkkkkkk.


Thought we played well at times but the forwards were rubbish tonight. :( Charlie ....... hmm, not good.

Can't disagree with any of that obviously.

A really frustrating night that should have come good at the end but didn't.

Paul Ince is a disgrace to the game that gave him his fortune. Two seasons running now he has brought a team of thugs to Griffin Park to play like a team of scumbags. it is quite clear he sets them up to play in his own image. I hope he continues to be as unsuccessful in the management game as he has always been and I assume that those that own Notts County will sooner or later be embarrassed enough by what he puts out on the pitch to get rid of him.

As for us, well we didn't exactly play badly but there was no cutting edge, Nelson wasn't tested at all and MacDonald had yet another night off. I can't personally say I agreed with the substitutions. I would have had MacDonald off for Grabban at half time and I really don't see the point of playing a boy in a mans game which is what Nathan Byrne apears to be. Headless chicken as far as I can see. I felt a bit sorry for Neilson who other than a horrendous blunder played reasonably well at CB but you just can't do that sort of thing and get away with it.
We are trying to play football the right way and it is more interesting to watch than the previous regime gave us but we are seriously short on quality.
Changes needed up front asap please.
 

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gutted too.......we deserved the 3 points......played some good football against a team which reminded me of argentina v england in '66 (animals)......giveaway goal but neillson played well after.....karleigh and saunders outstanding........charlie and alexander really poor tonight........gutted for simpson but short run ups for pens are a defo no no......just hammer the b'stad ;) disappointing but the lads are really trying to play the right way and id rather watch that, than the rubbish we were watching 2 months ago..........oh and well done nf on getting the job permanently :)
 

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Can't disagree with any of that obviously.

A really frustrating night that should have come good at the end but didn't.

Paul Ince is a disgrace to the game that gave him his fortune. Two seasons running now he has brought a team of thugs to Griffin Park to play like a team of scumbags. it is quite clear he sets them up to play in his own image. I hope he continues to be as unsuccessful in the management game as he has always been and I assume that those that own Notts County will sooner or later be embarrassed enough by what he puts out on the pitch to get rid of him.

As for us, well we didn't exactly play badly but there was no cutting edge, Nelson wasn't tested at all and MacDonald had yet another night off. I can't personally say I agreed with the substitutions. I would have had MacDonald off for Grabban at half time and I really don't see the point of playing a boy in a mans game which is what Nathan Byrne apears to be. Headless chicken as far as I can see. I felt a bit sorry for Neilson who other than a horrendous blunder played reasonably well at CB but you just can't do that sort of thing and get away with it.
We are trying to play football the right way and it is more interesting to watch than the previous regime gave us but we are seriously short on quality.
Changes needed up front asap please.

Did you seriously not think Byrne had an impact when he came on, everytime he got the ball their defence retreated 10 yards which opened up the space we then attacked into!!!
 

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Apart from the goal Nelson didnt have a save to make? We didnt play 'very well', we had a lot of possession but did very little with it.

We should have made the extra man count, but we had no cutting edge. Notts County were animals, but that doesnt excuse the performance. We were woeful against 10 men, and that was a sloppy goal to give away. Our front 2 were both poor and got muscled out of the game all night.

We didnt deserve to win, but County deserved to lose. They were a vile, vile team. Shame Simpson missed the penalty, but why was he taking it in the first place?
:imwith:

Our first shot on goal in the second half came in the 74th min (our goal)..

Passing sideways might be nice on the eye but as i've said before there needs to be some kind of end product, bringing on Byrne did the trick though as he really took on the defence and looked a hell of a lot better than at the Bristol Rovers match. But before that we didn't do anything to show we could win .

We didn't deserve anything more than a point and a draw was a fair result even though they were down to 9 men.

A frustrating game (shall probably add more tomorrow)
 

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Can't remember leaving a bees game feeling so frustrated :mad1:

We so should have won that game, and comfortably. Facing 10 men for 70 minutes then 9 for the last five minutes, how we didn't win I don't know. Even with 11 men I thought County were an average side who were there for the taking who played like a typical Paul Ince side, niggly fouls, red cards and time wasting, a disgrace to the league.

By far our poorest display under Forster, although to his and the players defence the pitch is terrible at the moment which must be taken into consideration. We at least tried to play football but it was a scrappy, niggly game where we never quite hit our straps.

First ten minutes we were actually ok, some dangerous crosses causing havoc and when Harley gave away two poor fouls inside a few minutes they were down to ten men. I really thought it was one of those games where if we'd scored just after the sending off the floodgates would have opened. But we didn't. As the saying goes it is often harder to play against ten men than eleven and that showed tonight. We probably would have won against eleven but the sending off allowed county to play with two banks of four and a lone striker making them hard to break down. Then we go and concede, madness. Neilson was a surprise choice as centre back and it was a horror goal to concede. He wasn't helped by being given the ball in the first place but took a poor touch on a bobbly surface allowing Westcarr the chance to pounce, winning the tackle, and after his initial shot was saved he touched in the rebound into an empty net. Head in hands stuff.

Second half we must have had 80% posession but rarely tested Nelson which was the biggest dissapointment. Credit to Forster, his subs worked. Simpson gives us a different option and Byrne although looking like a midget weighing about six stone certainly has talent and quik feet but looks far too light weight for lower league football. Saunders whipped in a great free kick and Osborne was unmarked to head home with County appealing for offside.

I thought we'd go on and win it especially when their centre back, the same cheating one who got Elder sent off a couple of years ago, collected his second yellow of the night. We were piling everyone forward in the five additional minutes (thanks mainly to County's time wasting) and when Woodman drove in a ball, Simpson looked certain to head in meaning their defender had no option to haul him down to the ground, an act of desperation and a clear penalty. My first reaction was give it to saunders who has great technique, but I remembered Andy Scott saying that when they practiced in training Simpson had the best record. The first thing I noticed was the very short run up, something I don't like for a penalty. He dragged his penalty wide and off the outisde of the post. And that was that.

I know we're not going up and we're not going down but those two points dropped would have given us a big lift going in to some very tough fixtures ahead. I guess we were lucky to win against Tranmere and against Bristol Rovers and unlucky tonight. Maybe it does even itself out.

Lots of concerns though despite the improved football. Alexander and MacDonald just don't have that spark to lift us, there's no pace, no sharpness about the partnership and it was all a bit predictable. I agree with Perry who said that MacDonald hasn't quite looked himself since Scott left and i'd say these three home games have been arguably three of his poorest all in a bees shirt. Woodman had a poor game but is still a top player and we don't really have any other left backs with Blake being out on loan. Didn't understand Neilson at centre back with Pim on the bench. He didn't really have much to do but stuffed up for the goal and he does seem to be a slightly error prone player. Saunders still gave great delivery but can drift in and out and myles frustrated and was perhaps too eager to prove a point to an old club.

A long old trip on saturday then some tough home games coming up. I'd like to see us make use of our squad as some players look in need of a break.

I've calmed down a little but that was a crazy and frustrating game. We should have won. Also, the crowd. Under 4k for a league game in march. I know it was a cold night with chelsea vs man utd on tv but what a poor turnout. It is great that we can sell 17k for Wembley but that is a month away and we still have 14 league games to go and lots of points to play for. I just hope some fans haven't given up on the season already and are just waiting for wembley to happen.

Anyway, we move on, safe journey to all those heading up to Hartlepool, hopefully we'll have a bit more luck than we did tonight.
 

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Our first shot on goal in the second half came in the 74th min (our goal)..

Passing sideways might be nice on the eye but as i've said before there needs to be some kind of end product, bringing on Byrne did the trick though as he really took on the defence and looked a hell of a lot better than at the Bristol Rovers match. But before that we didn't do anything to show we could win .

We didn't deserve anything more than a point and a draw was a fair result even though they were down to 9 men.

A frustrating game (shall probably add more tomorrow)

I blame the forwards for forcing us to pass sideways most of the time - so few options in the box for anyone, no movement, out battled and very little running from midfield to support.
 

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With Greenholme and Detours on this, great possession poor performance. Gave them a goal and a gift.
We were woeful in their final third, barely an attempt on target. Late and uninspired subs.
Still not better then league 1 mid table up front.
I felt KOC looked off the pace and couldn't understand the switch for Neilson.
First real hiccup for Forster, whoever takes over has their hands tied with a destinctly low scoring team.
At home against a team below us missing their best striker, against 10 men for 70 mins, against 9 for 6 mins, awarded a penalty in the last minute and we still can't win.
I hope all this insane play off talk dies down and we concentrate on the silver lining of the jpt.
 

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We didn't deserve anything more than a point and a draw was a fair result even though they were down to 9 men.

A draw was not a fair result in my eyes. If you would be happy with our side going around the country kicking seven bells out of the oposition to get a point fine but I'm not interested.
 

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A draw was not a fair result in my eyes. If you would be happy with our side going around the country kicking seven bells out of the oposition to get a point fine but I'm not interested.

I agree, I would hate to watch that sh*t week in week out, Mr Benham wants football to be played and that has to be the way forward.
 

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Late and uninspired subs.

I hope all this insane play off talk dies down.

a) Please let us all know when and who you might have brought on/taken off?

b) How dare anyone talk about success at Brentford when failure is far more achievable. Do me a ****ing favour, I always get :fishing:
 

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Gutted tongiht but would like to say that altough charlie and ga were poor tonight the only service they are getting is balls played to them from 30, 40 yards which they can only really hold up and knock off. I just wish the centre mids would try and make forward runs with the ball and look to fed them through balls from time to time. I would also like to add how bloody negative the majority of fans are on the left side of ealing road. Start playing tippy tappy and they moan, play direct and they moan ffs :banghead:
 
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So angry about the penalty......why did Simpson take the ball of off Saunders, just because he won the penalty doesn't give him the divine right to take it either...

Not for the first time this season either - who can forget the sight of Myles Weston wrestling the ball away from someone to take the second penalty at Exeter? And why is it players who do that always seem to miss? I can't believe that a team who have proved so deadly from 12 yards in penalty shoot outs don't have a set in stone 'order of preference' for penalties in normal play.
 

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Can't add much to what has already been said. Did Nelson actually make one save from a Brentford player's on-target goal attempt? I don't think so. Alexander and MacDonald were very, very poor and so slow that even a crisp packet in the wind blew past them. Simpson is slow but he looked like roadrunner when he came on and Byrne seemed to be the only player who actually wanted to take the ball into the box. If we had applied pressure like that before Byrne came on, then Nottingham Cloggers would have had even more players off. I also though the ref was poor but he's probably not had to officiate in a match of such desperate tactics before.

Everyone in the ground knew what was going to happen as Westcarr bore down on Neilson... except Neilson! Stupid error but I actually though he played well apart from it; there was one moment when he brought an aerial ball under control and passed it forward to a Brentford player where I though all our other centre-backs would have just headed it back.

In the second half we played a sort-of 3-4-3, with O'Connor in midfield and Saunders up and around the forwards but it was crying out for someone with a bit of pace to get in the box and turn a defender. We can't play Gary and Charlie up top again, surely?
 

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I was disappointed to see Nielson playing CB when there were alternatives on the bench. Playing at RB his aggressive forays forward put me in mind of Dickson (without the petulance) before he retired to the seaside.
I think that Forster will chalk this one up as a big point on his learning curve and he needs to have a good hard look at the front two pairing. Charlie does put all his heart into his running but there is nothing at the end and Alexander, for all the goals he has scored, simply flatters to deceive.
If we are going to play an open free flowing style of football then our forwards simply must be more mobile and skilful in their finishing.
 

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7 Days On Last minute proves crucial again....

Last Tuesday Leon's towering leap nicks all 3 points, today's Simpson's penalty smacks the outside of the post in the 5th minute of added on time and two points bounce away. Swings and roundabouts of League 1 but Forsters return of 7 points out of 9 in a week will help our red mist settle tomorrow. :banghead:

The game had plenty of drama and was quite enjoyable as it got the blood stirred, Ince and Alex Rae playing the part of panto villans brought their County side to town with the reputation of getting more cards than goals, they didn't let us down! :rolleyes:

KOC came in at r/b whilst Neilson shuffled along to take Leon's/Pim's place (Interesting - wait to hear if this was a Forster form pick or due to injury). rest lined up as Saturday. In truth it was a quiet opening - we looked a little quiet, pass and move, nice and easy but nothing threatening, ex Bee Stuart Nelson returning to GP in goal for County had a flap at a cross, in the 1st half but otherwise just entertained with a couple of goalkicks into touch - five years on, some things don't change! ;)

Harley made two crude fouls in 5 mins before 25mins played, red card, County go 4-4-1 and we pass side to side whilst County regroup. 5 mins till h/t Neilson who looked assurred committed the cardinal sin of getting mugged at centre back, last man back, Westcarr picked his pocket, sidefooted against Lee's outstretched palm who deflected it back for Westcarr to slot the rebound, Nil One h/t :mad1:

Time for Forster to show his colours - 2nd half it started a little pedestrian, but Warburton was keen for a change, Nicky played it by numbers on 60mins replaced a tired Alexander with Simpson and the Budgie-sized Byrne for Weston. Byrne gave us youth, pace and a head of steam. We were pressing a few crosses but nothing too close. One of those nights against 10 men perhaps? :rolleyes:

15 mins left, another free kick given away by County, left hand side 25 yards out, Saunders plays one of those dig it out and up right footed sliding sidefooted curlers into the box, when he hits them, the New Road know and are up, County play offside :confused: Nelson comes for a walkabout, Karleigh heads in to an empty net - 1-1 Game on! :cool:

County spoil, hoof and delay, Edwards takes out Saunders knee high, two yellows, County down to 9 now, no surprise, we all wave cheerio again, :wave: we push on, we are all up for this now, let's show Ince and his muggy thugs, 5 mins into added on time a Woodman crossfield ball, finds Simpson underneath it ready to head goalbound, Simmo gets tripped, definite pen, Simpson shrugs Sam away, Saunders has a sulk, Robbie smacks left and low, ping off the post and Ince and Rae grin, they've got an unlikely point but we gave them a goal and missed a goal so a point we'll have to take.

Performance wise - 4 or 5 players were a little off key tonight, after a great show from Woodman on Sat, he looked jaded tonight, he's entitled to a bad one, Beany all huff and puff but nothing sticking, Gaz looks spent and Charlie is looking the one player who is suffering from pass and move, not a sniff on Saturday and not a shot to speak of tonight. :(

Positives - Dave was good - he's picked up two yards of pace since Forster's taken over and is always involved. Neilson apart from the error is a good footballer, Simpson was clever and involved and won the penalty, despite the miss, Byrne gave us speed and quickened our play and although Sam was quieter than previous games he got the assist and is our spark.

Forster is unlikely to change a non losing side but its time to rest one of the the front pair, give Simpson/Grabban a run out at the Monkeyhangers on Saturday in the North East. We earned the win last Tuesday, shaded Saturday just, but tonight our luck was just the other side of that bloody post! It's the way it goes - we could have been 10th but we are in a lot healthier state on March the 1st than just a month ago at Dagenham on February 1st - so that'll do for now. :sorted:
 

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a) Please let us all know when and who you might have brought on/taken off?

b) How dare anyone talk about success at Brentford when failure is far more achievable. Do me a ****ing favour, I always get :fishing:

a) Alexander and Charlie could've been subbed at half-time to be honest - Charlie lasting until the 86th minute made no sense at all. Tough call for Nicky because I get the impression he's good mates with MacDonald but I just can't see what Charlie brings to this side other than effort. We were crying out for pace up front but it didn't arrive until Bignall came on - way too late.

b) Mixed feelings. Let's get to 53 points first - but even so do you really think this is a squad that can reach the Championship? We were discussing today how many of our players tonight are truly comfortable on the ball i.e. decent first touch (disregarding conditions like tonight). We got to about three - Saunders, Dave, Neilson, maybe Alexander on a good day?

I want us to play the Nicky Forster way - but if given the job longer term he's got some tough decisions to make regarding playing staff in the future.
 

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I would have liked to see Grabban on as he is one of the only strikers we have with any pace. Then again it was a rough game and Grabban has a little more finesse to reserve for cleaner teams than that.

Alexander was just as poor as Macdonald, although he doesnt get as much stick as him.
 
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