Bees v Huddersfield match report

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Fair result. HT fit, strong, organised, and pressing high. Ever since we have been playing the beautiful game I have said that I would play this way against Brentford if I were the coach of the opposition. In fairness, they did nothing different to the way they usually play. The ref didn't help - he was naïve rather than utterly crap - but he wasn't why we lost the game... we need to learn to play against an aggressive opponent which hunts the ball down as a pack. Not easy, but we have the players with the ball control and brains to be able to do this.

For me, it starts with matching the energy of the opposition, and must involve getting men around the ball (in close proximity) to provide options for the player in possession. We have the personnel to move the ball swiftly, in triangles, in tight corners when under pressure, and from this point we can then switch the play and spring an attack. Today we didn't do this and players were frequently left isolated when receiving the ball, only to be confronted by two or three terriers right in their faces, and nowhere to go.

Town hit the post twice, so it could have been more than one. All this said, though, Harlee and John were really solid at the back, Rico and Maxi look like the business on the flanks (so impressed with Rico, having seen him for the first time today), and Ryan was magnificent. And if the chance mid second half had fallen to the correct left foot all would have been different.
 

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Beaten by the better side today. Their work rate surpassed any other team I've seen this season. They were absolutely relentless. It looked like 12th vs 3rd.

It's very clear where we need to improve to be real playoff contenders, a tall hairy arsed tough DM would be a good start.

I'm actually more gutted that putney won and look like they'll make the playoffs.
 

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That game today was crying out for an atacking midfielder Sergi Canos. going out know might post later. ONe thing I will say, we have a very young inexperienced squad. Dont panic.
 

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I don't think they were cloggers just cynical and happy to hit the deck, play for the foul every time and time waste but they look a side equipped to do well in the play offs.
They are after Putney the strongest side to visit GP this season and continued to press high for 90 minutes which says a lot for their fitness.
my view also the two sides I have been impressed with this season that I have seen are the putney lot and Huddersfield today - irony the 2 of my most hated sides.
 

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I haven't noticed anyone from the opposition take as much of an obvious interest in our warm up as their assistant head coach did today.

He was stood in the centre circle for the majority of the time that we were out there and didn't seem to miss a trick. No subtlety about it.

Could it be that they're so impressed with what we're doing that they're looking to take some marginal gains from what we do? It wouldn't surprise me because Wagner seems to be a very decent coach who doesn't leave many stones unturned
 

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........expected goalfest became a borefest......potential cracker became damp squib....one team fighting for something the other nothing to fight for......we were'nt at it at all......as dull and unentertaining a game as i can remember at GP.........move on...........looking forward to smashing the yam yams under lights......we cant possibly play as lifeless two games in a row......no point blaming individual players.....nobody,other than possibly Egan, can hold up their head tonight and say 'i put in a shift'.
You must have missed the NYE game against Norwich.
 

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Having a look at their forum, they have a huge deal of respect for us and are chuffed and surprised they managed to come away with 3 points and a clean sheet. Good to see we are taken seriously and almost sounds like we are seen as a scalp. Shame we couldn't justify their fears but they're up there for a reason.
 

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I thought they looked a really good side, and the right sided player Smith caused us problems all first half! It just shows at this level that if you hunt in two's on the man who has the ball, and can get it off him and spring a quick counter attack you're going to win more game that you lose.

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Just seen the foul on Canos right at the end on championship show. Could easily have been given as a pen. Fine margins again.
 

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Huddersfield did a job on us today, we were out muscled and bullied when it was required. They are a reflection of their manager, win at all costs. They reminded me of Boro last season and were cynical, physical and basically stopped us from playing. They know how to get results. The Vibe miss and the refs performance just added to an afternoon where we were not going to get the draw I think we deserved. I would not want to watch that style of play every week but for us to get promotion we need to toughen up and be able to deal with this type of opposition. Unfortunately today we largely were unable to find answers to their in the face style, lessons to be learned and we need to bring in 1 or 2 players who are able to provide a more physical approach. Roll on Tuesday, beat Wolves and get the show back on the road, COYB
 
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Hi, I've not been at the game, been working today.

I have. Lot of respect for Brentford, and expected a draw, a hard fought win or a narrow loss.

Reading the feedback on here and the Town forum, it seems Huddersfield played how i suggested they would. It is kind of rentlentless grind of good passing football that's wears the opposition down and leads to a goal. We (Town) have not scored lots of goals this week and generally win 1-0 or 2-1, something like that.

All the best and I really rate your manager, style and your club in general.
 

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........expected goalfest became a borefest......potential cracker became damp squib....one team fighting for something the other nothing to fight for......we were'nt at it at all......as dull and unentertaining a game as i can remember at GP.........move on...........looking forward to smashing the yam yams under lights......we cant possibly play as lifeless two games in a row......no point blaming individual players.....nobody,other than possibly Egan, can hold up their head tonight and say 'i put in a shift'.
Wouldn't describe it as a damp squib at all.

Huddersfield were excellent and are 3rd on merit imho, we were pretty good but just lack in a couple of key areas which i think we all agree on. An upgrade in 2 or 3 positions and next season could be extrenely interesting for us.

Woods was my M0M by some way, love his attitude and never shirks a 50/50 like one or two of our players frustratingly do. If we could add goals to his game he'd be the full package and he has them it in him if we could tinker with his mindset a bit imho
 

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....nothing....Egan played well....solid as a rock.....the post and bad finishing stopped them scoring another 2 goals...not our defence....they got behind us wide......anyway it was still a pish game.....we were poor all over the park.........that was my point.
We watched a different game, Dean looked far better defensively and distribution wise than John E. Both Maxi and Rico had very good games and Woodsy done fine.
They were better than us and concede we had a few off colour today but we weren't pish your egg chasers were.
 

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Thought we looked impressive for first fifteen minutes but then started standing off them a bit and they muscled themselves into a very advantageous space. They'd identfied Henry as being a bit ioslated and launched repeated attacks down his flank, we looked disjointed and passes kept going astray. Woods was tremendous again, thankfully, he held the centre ground to some degree, but the balls weren't sticking upfront andt then Danny Bentley somehow twisted a shot into the net and that was that. Just didn't seem to click tody, but that's how it happens sometimes. If Vibe had taken the chance then we might have seen something bit different but wasn't to be. Jota quiet, think Canos should have been on at the start, but otherwise, just one of them days. Nice time in the pub after with a couple of blokes over from Hanover and a couple down from Far Town.
 

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Score reflected the game and all credit to Town for a highly professional 3 points.

Don't buy into all the niggles and cheating that they have been accused of, yes a couple dived but by and large they did very little wrong in my opinion. They were well organised, had pace in abundance and incredible stamina as evidenced by their hunting in packs all over the pitch for all the match.

In contrast we had a day when a number were off colour, our inspirational players failed to inspire and in a lot of cases some of our team did not relish the physical aspect of the game.

I have criticised Woods in the past but felt that probably he, Harlee Egan and Henry can look back on the game and say they gave everything

The intensity of the game was probably due to Town having something to play for whereas we haven't and if our fast passing game doesn't work we are not a team capable of fighting toe to toe.

Not worried, we played a decent side that could well get promoted, their game is not so easy on the eye but is highly effective with everyone knowing their job. They will be tough to beat in the playoffs
 

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Some usual cliches on here of northern cloggers etc but lets be honest that was a terrific away performance against difficult opponents on a good run of form.
They gave us far more problems than Newcastle or Brighton in that their work rate and high tempo never gave us the opportunity to get any momentum they also kept the ball pretty well too.
At times it felt like they had 12 players on the pitch and the simple truth was we were not able to counter it consistently with quick movement and passing and when we did unfortunately Lasse missed the chance. A really good reality check for our young team who are only going to get better and won't come up against opponents who play like this too often.
The race for promotion / playoff places is really opening up now and Huddersfield are right in the thick of it after today you wouldn't right them off for top 2 if they play like this every week.
 

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I have to say I think a lot of people are over-rating Hudderflied. For starters they are not a patch on Warbuttons' Bees of 2 years ago. OK that is ancient history. They are the best side I have seen this season WITHOUT the ball, i.e. their Kloppite manager's high energy pressing tactics worked well. But on the ball they were pretty average. Technically the Bees are better. They won because of a freak goal. A draw would have been the right result.
 

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Back to the 4-3-3 please now with Josh holding.

Harlee and Egan were brilliant. Woods did well, battled really hard but felt him and Sawyers slowed our game down hugely.

Imo Huddersfield won tactically more that player superiority.

It's funny but we still haven't developed a consistent style of our own yet. Early days though..
 

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I have to say I think a lot of people are over-rating Hudderflied. For starters they are not a patch on Warbuttons' Bees of 2 years ago. OK that is ancient history. They are the best side I have seen this season WITHOUT the ball, i.e. their Kloppite manager's high energy pressing tactics worked well. But on the ball they were pretty average. Technically the Bees are better. They won because of a freak goal. A draw would have been the right result.
They also hit the post twice. I do not remember their keeper making a save. I know what you are saying, but sometimes success is built on organisation, method and work-rate, unfortunately!
 

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We watched a different game, Dean looked far better defensively and distribution wise than John E. Both Maxi and Rico had very good games and Woodsy done fine.
They were better than us and concede we had a few off colour today but we weren't pish your egg chasers were.
.....cant argue with comments about the big lad and colin.....still think in time we wont see henry play left back....as for rugby...cant stand the game....but you're right i am a sweaty..........so what.
 

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Wouldn't describe it as a damp squib at all.

Huddersfield were excellent and are 3rd on merit imho, we were pretty good but just lack in a couple of key areas which i think we all agree on. An upgrade in 2 or 3 positions and next season could be extrenely interesting for us.

Woods was my M0M by some way, love his attitude and never shirks a 50/50 like one or two of our players frustratingly do. If we could add goals to his game he'd be the full package and he has them it in him if we could tinker with his mindset a bit imho
....not the best team at GP this season....excellent wont be enough to see them promoted........they done a job on us today........they wanted it.......bullied us rotten.....even Harlee got beaten up.....we were like little kids playing against the 'BIG' kids in the playground.....lessons to be learned from today for future promotion pushes....always something to be gained in adversity.....no big deal.
 
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....nothing....Egan played well....solid as a rock.....the post and bad finishing stopped them scoring another 2 goals...not our defence....they got behind us wide......anyway it was still a pish game.....we were poor all over the park.........that was my point.
Far too harsh, HD was immense today, the one that hit the post came from an interception which would have been a certain goal had he not got in there first. Woods was the best midfielder on the pitch.

The reality is that we don't have a game plan against a big physical game stopping team and haven't had for many years. Our flare players were snuffed out and Sawyers was pedestrian and we didn't change it until too late.

On decent chances created it was at a minimum from both sides and we missed an open goal and they fluked a deflection in, other than that a draw would have been a fair result from one team trying to play a bit and another one trying to stop a game of football breaking out.
 

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Fair result. HT fit, strong, organised, and pressing high. Ever since we have been playing the beautiful game I have said that I would play this way against Brentford if I were the coach of the opposition. In fairness, they did nothing different to the way they usually play. The ref didn't help - he was naïve rather than utterly crap - but he wasn't why we lost the game... we need to learn to play against an aggressive opponent which hunts the ball down as a pack. Not easy, but we have the players with the ball control and brains to be able to do this.

For me, it starts with matching the energy of the opposition, and must involve getting men around the ball (in close proximity) to provide options for the player in possession. We have the personnel to move the ball swiftly, in triangles, in tight corners when under pressure, and from this point we can then switch the play and spring an attack. Today we didn't do this and players were frequently left isolated when receiving the ball, only to be confronted by two or three terriers right in their faces, and nowhere to go.

Town hit the post twice, so it could have been more than one. All this said, though, Harlee and John were really solid at the back, Rico and Maxi look like the business on the flanks (so impressed with Rico, having seen him for the first time today), and Ryan was magnificent. And if the chance mid second half had fallen to the correct left foot all would have been different.
Exactly the way I saw it
 

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They also hit the post twice. I do not remember their keeper making a save. I know what you are saying, but sometimes success is built on organisation, method and work-rate, unfortunately!
Not at GP, but their keeper saved from Jota (early on??) looking at highlights.......plus he was well beaten by Vibe's deflected shot that clipped the bar.....
 

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I thought their No.10 Mooy was superb. I lost count of the tackles and interceptions he made. Exactly the player we lack in my opinion. Still, we played alright but their physicality and discipline to the high press told. On to Wolves and Burton which hopefully are games more suited to our style.
He's one of the 3 players from the A-league that I suggested would be good signings for Bees in the transfer forum a few years back...really good player!
 

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They also hit the post twice. I do not remember their keeper making a save. I know what you are saying, but sometimes success is built on organisation, method and work-rate, unfortunately!
We did hit the bar. And their keeper made a smart save from Jota in the first couple of minutes. Take into account Vibe's miss and the possible penalty and we could have nicked a draw.

But they were better than us today.
 

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....not the best team at GP this season....excellent wont be enough to see them promoted........they done a job on us today........they wanted it.......bullied us rotten.....even Harlee got beaten up.....we were like little kids playing against the 'BIG' kids in the playground.....lessons to be learned from today for future promotion pushes....always something to be gained in adversity.....no big deal.
Mate, Harlee got shoved over but he was far from beaten up or bullied. They were better than us and deserved the three points but I thought Harlee and Woodsy were immense today.
 

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Far too harsh, HD was immense today, the one that hit the post came from an interception which would have been a certain goal had he not got in there first. Woods was the best midfielder on the pitch.

The reality is that we don't have a game plan against a big physical game stopping team and haven't had for many years. Our flare players were snuffed out and Sawyers was pedestrian and we didn't change it until too late.

On decent chances created it was at a minimum from both sides and we missed an open goal and they fluked a deflection in, other than that a draw would have been a fair result from one team trying to play a bit and another one trying to stop a game of football breaking out.
Don't agree that Hudds were a team of cloggers.

Felt they played some very good football at times.

Bit too street-wise for us at times, but a decent side and i thought their no.9 in particular was outstanding tbh
 

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Don't agree that Hudds were a team of cloggers.

Felt they played some very good football at times.

Bit too street-wise for us at times, but a decent side and i thought their no.9 in particular was outstanding tbh
same here.
 

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Good comparison with the Middlesbrough team that done a job on us 4 times in one season. I certainly think we are short the couple of physically imposing combative players that most successful teams in this division seem to have, but would such players have a averse effect on our brand of football?
Frustrating that we knew exactly what to expect from Huddersfield today but still didnt cope with it effectively.
 

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Good comparison with the Middlesbrough team that done a job on us 4 times in one season. I certainly think we are short the couple of physically imposing combative players that most successful teams in this division seem to have, but would such players have a averse effect on our brand of football?
Frustrating that we knew exactly what to expect today from Huddersfield today but still didnt cope with it effectively.
Sadly what I predicted last night, I had a bet on 0-0 when others said it would be a goal fest and reminded me of a well organised, strong, cynical Boro side of last couple of years.
 

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I don't think they were cloggers just cynical and happy to hit the deck, play for the foul every time and time waste but they look a side equipped to do well in the play offs.
They are after Putney the strongest side to visit GP this season and continued to press high for 90 minutes which says a lot for their fitness.
Putney better than NUFC and BHA? Really? They caught us during a tough period. Yes we played well and got a result against Rangers the week before but we made them look good and it wasn't our first team.
 

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He's one of the 3 players from the A-league that I suggested would be good signings for Bees in the transfer forum a few years back...really good player!
He is a really good player. Have watched him several times this season, and very impressed. Very aware, very organised, very tidy. Quite combative too. Would definitely have been a good addition.
 

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Vibe and Sawyers are not consistent and not good enough to be effective when they have poor games like today.
TBH I am losing my patience with the lack of any consistency from them.
Bentley with another mistake and the lack of competition for him will do nobody any favours.
Gifting them a goal meant they could sit and not leave space for us.
Jota and Canos looked a bit leggy.
 

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Yes, similar thought from me, just like 'Boro. We were weak in the midfield and they over-ran us there, that was the difference. Yennaris battled with little result; Woods doesn't handle being pressed; Sawyers is not the player to battle. Fine margins and certainly better that those performances against 'Boro but still a way off.
That's the second time I have seen Yennaris mentioned positively. Sure, he battled and was busy, but his first touch was woeful at times and his passing was often worse! Don't get me wrong; I am a fan. But he was not great today. I would have taken him off before Sawyers.
 

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Vibe and Sawyers are not consistent and not good enough to be effective when they have poor games like today.
TBH I am losing my patience with the lack of any consistency from them.
Bentley with another mistake and the lack of competition for him will do nobody any favours.
Gifting them a goal meant they could sit and not leave space for us.
Jota and Canos looked a bit leggy.
Bit harsh here mate - especially on Bentley, from the replay it looks like the bees player running across him to the near post causes the issue
 

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Don't agree that Hudds were a team of cloggers.

Felt they played some very good football at times.

Bit too street-wise for us at times, but a decent side and i thought their no.9 in particular was outstanding tbh
Completely agree. Huddersfield looked pretty good on the ball I thought and played some good one touch football and some lovely chipped passes. They were physical too, but not outrageously so - Brighton were similarly strong
 

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That's the second time I have seen Yennaris mentioned positively. Sure, he battled and was busy, but his first touch was woeful at times and his passing was often worse! Don't get me wrong; I am a fan. But he was not great today. I would have taken him off before Sawyers.
In the first half he got across his man to a Jota FK which was blocked. This is because Huddersfield are good. I think against the likes of Forest or Villa this would have been a shot on target and possibly a goal
 

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I haven't noticed anyone from the opposition take as much of an obvious interest in our warm up as their assistant head coach did today.

He was stood in the centre circle for the majority of the time that we were out there and didn't seem to miss a trick. No subtlety about it.

Could it be that they're so impressed with what we're doing that they're looking to take some marginal gains from what we do? It wouldn't surprise me because Wagner seems to be a very decent coach who doesn't leave many stones unturned
Dean Smith did the same - watching their warm up by close to the tunnel. First time I've seen any Brentford manager/head coach do this.
 

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We lost to a good team that is just a little bit better than us, but not by much. I found that encouraging because our baby squad will only get better.
 

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Putney better than NUFC and BHA? Really? They caught us during a tough period. Yes we played well and got a result against Rangers the week before but we made them look good and it wasn't our first team.
Hate to admit but best side I've seen here were the Ruperts, they could have done us more than 2
 

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Not much to add to above although I go with those who felt Huddersfield were more functional than flair, time wasting at 56 minutes says it all. We did OK until they scored and then lost the initiative and gradually became less and less composed against their tactics.

Felt DS was slow to change things again. Subs were right but he pondered far too long before bringing them on when it was obvious we needed to do something different at half time. Bringing on Hoffman with less than 10 minutes to go is just pointless.

Think Josh would have made a big difference in slicing through their pressing game.
 
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Putney better than NUFC and BHA? Really? They caught us during a tough period. Yes we played well and got a result against Rangers the week before but we made them look good and it wasn't our first team.
Sonofabee is correct IMHO. Brighton and Newcastle might be the best in the league this season, as the table shows, but neither were that impressive at Griffin Park, whereas Foolham, to be fair, played us off the park.
 

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Sonofabee is correct IMHO. Brighton and Newcastle might be the best in the league this season, as the table shows, but neither were that impressive at Griffin Park, whereas Foolham, to be fair, played us off the park.
I also reckon Sheff Weds should be in the mix.....murdered us in the 1-1 at the start of the season....
 

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Surprised DS didn't mix things up by taking Sawyers off and but keeping FloJo on and bringing Jota in to a central role.

Would be interesting to see Canos, FloJo and Jota on at the same time. I reckon that would be a good goal chasing 3 behind Vibe.

Also think Jota would draw more fouls just outside the box in a central role by the way he shows and then moves the ball.
 

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