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Went in a way that you’d expect.

We had the ball, created the better chances from open play.

They defended well, took a few yellow cards and got their goal from a set piece.

In truth I’m not too annoyed with the performance. We hit the woodwork multiple times, had a couple of big penalty claims and Marcondes really unlucky not to score.

Lapse in concentration cost us big time, that mistake defending the corner was really poor cannot happen again otherwise we will be punished.
 

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We knew what to expect from Brum...with their luck they may win the league by 12 points...
 
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First game back, were the better side, created chances to win the game, should have had a penalty. I'm happy regardless for now

Canos looked so good on the left, think he's going to have a big season this season. So composed on the ball and aware of play around him now

Toney might take a bit to get going but he'll find the net plenty, no reason to be annoyed about today

COYR
 

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Thought we were lacklustre from the off. No tempo to our game allowing them to get players behind the ball. Few times we moved it quickly we created something but once they'd gone 1 up from a dreadful goal it made it much easier for them. Short spell in the second where we should probably have equalised. Blatant pen on Jansson, Canos hits the bar and ball bounces around their goal line but once they'd got over that they looked V comfortable. We looked like we'd given up with 10 minutes to go. Introduction of Forss and Fosu did very little. Our passing was very laboured and we looked quite sorry for ourselves, Mbuemo in particular looking very frustrated and lucky not to get a yellow or worse, even Henry gave away possession and needless corners.

We need a bit of inspiration from somewhere but without Said around or the senior players taking control we look a bit lost. I'd be inclined to go with an almost first choice side against Southampton as we need the practice. This looked like one of our early pre-season games against Borehamwood..

Frank has a lot of work to do..
 

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Very frustrating first half as we were playing at half pace and rushed off the ball by an energetic Brum.
Very frustrating second half as we did step up a gear or two and totally outplayed them only for a combination of poor finishing and piss poor reffing to leave us with nothing.
JDS was my MOM, decent performances from Sergi and Christian, back 4 had little to do, Toney not quite up to pace yet but saw enough to be confident that he will be soon. Marcondes and Mbeumo both poor.
Keep calm and carry on up the table.
 

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At risk of stating the obvious, we looked like what we are....a team without Ollie, Said and Raya.

Pretty turgid stuff imho, and the pace seems to be disappearing from our game. We could have played until tomorrow night and not scored. Its going to be another season where need to re-build but make sure we are in touch after 10-15 games

Agree with previous posters, the novelty of empty stadium football has well and truly worn off
 

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Attitude and quality not good enough, but we deserved a draw. You can forgive a lack of quality if we're awaiting signings or bedding in new players, but we need to get the attitude right as soon as possible. We lacked urgency and focus, and Mbeumo showed there are some unhealthy frustrations bubbling under. Every point counts and needs to be fought for in a motivated and professional manner, and we need to move on from last season.

Hopefully it's a performance we can use in a positive way to ensure it doesn't happen again.
 

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Anyone who doesn't think we deserved at least a point from that, clearly wasn't watching.
Very similar to opening game last year.
You don’t think we deserved a point last year?
 

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Thought we were lacklustre from the off. No tempo to our game allowing them to get players behind the ball. Few times we moved it quickly we created something but once they'd gone 1 up from a dreadful goal it made it much easier for them. Short spell in the second where we should probably have equalised. Blatant pen on Jansson, Canos hits the bar and ball bounces around their goal line but once they'd got over that they looked V comfortable. We looked like we'd given up with 10 minutes to go. Introduction of Forss and Fosu did very little. Our passing was very laboured and we looked quite sorry for ourselves, Mbuemo in particular looking very frustrated and lucky not to get a yellow or worse, even Henry gave away possession and needless corners.

We need a bit of inspiration from somewhere but without Said around or the senior players taking control we look a bit lost. I'd be inclined to go with an almost first choice side against Southampton as we need the practice. This looked like one of our early pre-season games against Borehamwood..

Frank has a lot of work to do..
Cheer up! It’s not that bad FFS. Played quite well, did enough to win
 

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Causes for concern for me is losing the ball at the back when received from our keeper. Jenson lost it 3 times in the first 5 mins and Christian also at fault as well. We are pedestrian and predictable and take time building up an attack playing into Brums hands. We do need a probing player that can take opponents on an create some openings. That’s the negatives out of the way , how the feck did we lose that game? That animal Clayton up to his usual scummy self, ****ed off with the ref for missing a stonewall penalty and he was right there, very poor ref that is.we played ok but need to be more aggresive and lose our soft underbelly I hope when we sign a new player i hope it is someone with some strength . No panics yet but we cannot afford to keep losing matches which we could and should have at least got a point ala last season.
 

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Attitude and quality not good enough, but we deserved a draw. You can forgive a lack of quality if we're awaiting signings or bedding in new players, but we need to get the attitude right as soon as possible. We lacked urgency and focus, and Mbeumo showed there are some unhealthy frustrations bubbling under. Every point counts and needs to be fought for in a motivated and professional manner, and we need to move on from last season.

Hopefully it's a performance we can use in a positive way to ensure it doesn't happen again.
Totally disagree. Team really wanted it. On another day we would have won comfortably. Silly goal to concede. All will be well.
 

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Anyone who thinks we we're going to carry our form from last season into this is living in cuckoo land. Not only have we lost leading scorer but we've lost the second highest scorer as well. Hopefully we can get a winning run going but I think it's not going to happen overnight. I suspect Bryan is missing his BW and not quite sure what his role is now. May have been a different outcome had Jensen not gone off as don't see Marcondes as a battler in these sorts of games. Be interesting to see who stays and who replaces them ?
 

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Attitude and quality not good enough, but we deserved a draw. You can forgive a lack of quality if we're awaiting signings or bedding in new players, but we need to get the attitude right as soon as possible. We lacked urgency and focus, and Mbeumo showed there are some unhealthy frustrations bubbling under. Every point counts and needs to be fought for in a motivated and professional manner, and we need to move on from last season.

Hopefully it's a performance we can use in a positive way to ensure it doesn't happen again.
I don’t think bedding in players should be an excuse when teams like Birmingham have far more new players to bed in.
 

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Team/Squad isn't good enough. I'm not saying that some of those players can't have "great moments" but neither Canos or Marcondes are consistent enough. They aren't bad players but just not good enough for first 11 football for a team that wants promotion. I love Bryan and think he is a wonderful talent but in that front three I'm not sure he will be able to handle the pressure/expectation, I'm sure a more experienced player would've taken at least one of those chances.
The championship has got a lot of poor teams in it this season and with a couple of decent signings we could walk this league but if that is going to be our squad then I think playoffs will be our best outcome if we get a bit lucky. I know it's only game one but it was no different than quite a few matches last season and without Watkins & Benrahma we currently have a weaker team.
 

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Causes for concern for me is losing the ball at the back when received from our keeper. Jenson lost it 3 times in the first 5 mins and Christian also at fault as well. We are pedestrian and predictable and take time building up an attack playing into Brums hands. We do need a probing player that can take opponents on an create some openings. That’s the negatives out of the way , how the feck did we lose that game? That animal Clayton up to his usual scummy self, ****ed off with the ref for missing a stonewall penalty and he was right there, very poor ref that is.we played ok but need to be more aggresive and lose our soft underbelly I hope when we sign a new player i hope it is someone with some strength . No panics yet but we cannot afford to keep losing matches which we could and should have at least got a point ala last season.
Add Emiliano to your list. Insisted on waiting for the ball to arrive at his feet instead of going to meet it when necessary. Consequently had the ball stolen off his toes a number of times. But yes, I also counted Jensen getting dispossessed three times very early on. In fact, on the third occasion he managed to injure himself by standing on his own foot.
 

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Deja vu first day of the season and I absolutely hated it at least last season I was still on holiday so missed it :)

We had the chances to take the points but didn't take them and let in a poor goal going the other way.

Wanted to see us go out and make a statement but we don't seem to be able to do that, what's that? 1 win in the last 7 opening day matches?

Hopefully Raya is back for Huddersfield and we can pick up our tempo and have another week of training with our first XI all together.

Frustrated to see another 1-0 defeat on our records but on to the next!
 

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Poor finishing (16 shots) wasn’t the only reason for the loss. Brum worked harder and were organised.
 

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Anyone who thinks we we're going to carry our form from last season into this is living in cuckoo land. Not only have we lost leading scorer but we've lost the second highest scorer as well. Hopefully we can get a winning run going but I think it's not going to happen overnight. I suspect Bryan is missing his BW and not quite sure what his role is now. May have been a different outcome had Jensen not gone off as don't see Marcondes as a battler in these sorts of games. Be interesting to see who stays and who replaces them ?
I think Marcondes actually did fine and kept at his main role of being the fulcrum of our attacking moves. Jensen had clearly been instructed to take the agricultural approach back at Brum but was no Clayton (fine rugby tackle at the end from him, the all round sportsman) and ended up injuring himself trying and made us look chaotic in midfield because he metaphorically trod on the toes of Norgaard’s role. Ironically this was probably a game for Zamburek as since he’s bulked up he looks more like he can mix it in midfield while still picking the passes.
 

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Anyone who thinks we we're going to carry our form from last season into this is living in cuckoo land. Not only have we lost leading scorer but we've lost the second highest scorer as well. Hopefully we can get a winning run going but I think it's not going to happen overnight. I suspect Bryan is missing his BW and not quite sure what his role is now. May have been a different outcome had Jensen not gone off as don't see Marcondes as a battler in these sorts of games. Be interesting to see who stays and who replaces them ?
Yep, going to be difficult to replicate that scintillating form of 4 losses from 5 at the end of last season. We played better today than we did against Barnsley, Stoke, and Fulham (Swansea maybe, but we had 10 men).

Mbuemo played the same role as he did last season today, so not sure why he would be unsure of his role.

We should have had 2 pens and missed 5 or 6 sitters against a Karanka side, a manager whose team conceded only 31 goals in a season once. It was an okay away performance we just didn’t have the luck on the day.

We won’t win the league (I wasn’t expecting top 2 anyway), but we will push for the play offs and lose at Wembley again 😎
 

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A team feeling sorry for themselves who think they should win on talent alone. We could’ve easily won or drawn but it was a poor performance.
 

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I also counted Jensen getting dispossessed three times very early on. In fact, on the third occasion he managed to injure himself by standing on his own foot.
Possibly the worst five minute spell of any Brentford player, ever. 😂

I’m normally glass half full but despite the chances we created, we were powder puff in midfield and lacking firepower up front. Norgaard looked tired and even more so after being virtually decapitated by Harlem.
Toney will get chances and score loads, but its going to take a while for things to gel in the final third. We need another option in midfield as Marcondes isn’t quite good enough.

We’ve gone from eight wins in a row, to one win in six. 🙄
 

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Disappointing, and clearly a blow to supporters' morale, but a sense of proportion is called for: after a so-so first half in which we hit the woodwork and conceded from a corner, we largely dominated the second half, hit the woodwork a second time and lcreated several chances which somehow failed to failed to go in. Their header from a corner went in, ours from a corner - Janssen's towards the end, into the ground and over the crossbar - didn't. That was the difference in a game which on another day we could and should have won. So it's last year's start all over again. 45 more games to go and we're only three points behind top spot.

I can't agree with those who say how dire our play was. True, we weren't as quick off the mark as Brum players in the first half but a 0-0 half-time score would have been a fair reflection of the state of play. And we had much the better of things in the second half, somehow failing to find the net despite creating several chances. There'll be no finger-pointing from me, and I'd pick exactly the same side for the game against Huddersfield, injuries permitting, along with many of the core players in the team against Southampton.
 
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Always felt it was going to be more of a warm glass of Watney's Red barrel rather than a chilled glass of Bollinger's for this match after the disappointments of last season, hey ho onwards and upwards, the Fulham result has cheered me up no end!
 

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Nothing to really add on what was said, very disjointed game.. few good spells from us.. probably should've had a draw.. gave away a free goal.. usual failures from match officials.. a very Brentford performance.
 

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Cheer up! It’s not that bad FFS. Played quite well, did enough to win
you can’t be happy with that first half? We were so lacklustre, Jensen dawdling on the ball and getting dispossessed in the first couple of minutes set the tone. We were second to every ball, we gave the ball away, there was zero movement off the ball. We’ve got the talent in this squad to do well but if you don’t put in the work off the ball then it’s pointless. Literally..
 

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Frustrating and annoying really sums it up for me. Our last 3 away games (Stoke, Swansea and now Brum) has ended 1-0. Lesson from last season was to turn these 1-0 defeats into draws. So hugely disappointed we lost by the same scoreline again.

Thought we started slowly and the first 15 minutes gave me all the indication that I knew it be a frustrating game. The international games really didn't help our preparations.

Brum really are nothing special but we somehow lost a game that we deserved at least a point. Bryan when he blazed over was the biggest chance for me, not sure why he wanted to blast it should have just placed it. We go 1-0 up we win that game. No one really stood out for me today, plenty of 5 and 6 out of 10 performances.

There is more to come from this team and my only worry is that I didn't see any big leaders out there. Must be addressed.
 

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Early days obviously, but we’ve not yet cracked our Achilles heel - losing to inferior, but organised and hardworking, teams.

For me the midfield is key. Norgaard needs help and someone else in there that can be combative when needed.

It’s no wonder he takes a kicking every match and gets regular yellow cards as he is the only one regularly giving some stick back to the opponents.

Neither Marcondes or Jensen do enough on a regular basis. Good footballers, leagues above what we’ve been served up during darker years, but for me not sufficiently well rounded if we’re a team aiming for top 2 in this league.
 

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Look. Brum have strengthened and added and in Karanka we know they’ll be a very well organised, defensive unit. They’ll be an effective top 10 champ team. They were so up for this. New season, new manager, fresh impetus. Almost the worst team to face on day one.

Set against that backdrop, no matter how much we want this not to be the case, given the exertions and changes of the last few weeks, it’s going to take a Herculean effort to get in the right frame of mind and body for the task ahead. Brum are all excited and the likes or M’Buemo want to join Ollie In the Prem.

All that aside, I predict we’ll hit our straps in about 5 - 7 games in (rather than 11 like last season).

there were enough bits of positive play in the second half to know that we’ll be in the mixer again come the end of the season but we deffo need a couple of quality ins to add to the overall strength.
 

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Done more than enough to win today but need to be a lot better to make top six especially against better teams than these.Had we won still would have thought the same we are still far too nice need more muscle in mid field can’t just rely on Norguaard.Sure the management know what’s needed and have the resources to sort it out.
 

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An awful lot of 1-0 wins this weekend - six out of the 12 Championship games. Plus a nil-nil draw. That's 14 teams out of 24 failing to find the net.

Perhaps because new attacking formations are still finding their feet.
 

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Deserved a point but didn't get it. Which is what we need to do in those types of games if we want to be top 2 this year. Played ok so no need to over-react
 

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All that happened is that Brum started with intensity and didn’t hang about, we did. Perhaps Jensen exemplified that but it was all over the pitch for most of the first half.
We pulled our socks up and in the second half, often dominated a team that kept its shape well.
Last year at home we dominated for the ninety and still lost. Maybe I’m getting hardened to disappointment, but we should have had two penalties, certainly the Jannson incident, in clear view of the red. I’m thinking that the ref was mindful that he gave us two softies against Luton last season. Brian needs to be less emotional, or he’ll get targeted for provocation. We can’t give any team chances to win the second ball this season. They’ll all fancy it. That was our strength for most of last year
 
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Bryan should have got one of his chances on target. We also hit the post twice and the crossbar once. Dean should have seen yellow for the chop tackle attempt on Canos before his assault on Norgaard. Two penalty shouts turned down, one was stonewall with the awful Ref looking straight at it and awarding handball against us. We can and will improve. At least a couple more signings on the way, Toney will be scoring for fun when match fit. Onwards and upwards! COYBs!
 

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Done more than enough to win today but need to be a lot better to make top six especially against better teams than these.Had we won still would have thought the same we are still far too nice need more muscle in mid field can’t just rely on Norguaard.Sure the management know what’s needed and have the resources to sort it out.
I agree 100%. We badly lack a competitive midfielder.I am afraid both Marcondes and Jensen don’t offer enough to fulfill this role. We don’t win enough second balls and are not dynamic enough in the middle of the park .
A couple of additions are definitely required .
 

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We didn't dominate the second half - how many clear cut chances did we actually create from open play? They played for a 1-0 win, went 1 up and defended their lead. All teams will play this way against us this season and we need to work it out. Gonna be a slow start and we may kick on later in the season hopefully it's not too late. 4 weeks of another window where we won't see Benrahma and can't buy his replacement until we know he is going. Handicaps us for the next 4 weeks due to uncertainty. Still it's a bloody long season. Up the Bees
 

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Add Emiliano to your list. Insisted on waiting for the ball to arrive at his feet instead of going to meet it when necessary. Consequently had the ball stolen off his toes a number of times. But yes, I also counted Jensen getting dispossessed three times very early on. In fact, on the third occasion he managed to injure himself by standing on his own foot.
Could be wrong as i havent watched it back but I thought he kicked their player who got to the ball first... He did seem way off the pace and ended up injured because of it.
I do think we need someone better in the middle of the park as we have been found wanting in these types of games far too often imo.
Having said that we were the better team.
 

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you can’t be happy with that first half? We were so lacklustre, Jensen dawdling on the ball and getting dispossessed in the first couple of minutes set the tone. We were second to every ball, we gave the ball away, there was zero movement off the ball. We’ve got the talent in this squad to do well but if you don’t put in the work off the ball then it’s pointless. Literally..
So for 45 minutes of the first game of the season after 1 days work together and a number of players playing emotionally draining internationals mid week we look a bit slow out of the traps. Wow who could have imagined. Yes I think over the 90 we looked very good. Of course I am not happy we lost but I am trying to keep some perspective.
 

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This is no different to last season, cannot knock anything that has been done at the club. In fact we have been spoilt. But we do have weaknesses that need to be addressed, we do need a guvnor running the midfield, teams are now defending pretty comfortable against us, and we are talking standard championship teams. Really find it hard to understand why we let t go on.
 

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I dont post that often on here so I'm not going to pretend to be some footballing tactical expert saying how we should play 4-4-2 or 4-3-3 with a holding midfielder or so and so at left back right back etc, because thats for the forum experts. Ive been watching us for over 20 years and have been to nearly every sinkhole in the north watching us. I love this club, but today was the first day much to my mrs joy (so she thought) that I said I dont want to watch us on the telly because Ive been getting too upset recently. What did I do? Watched it.... ruined another day.

I have grown up watching 2 teams. Brentford and the All Blacks (because my dad is a sheep befriender from those parts). It is painfully obvious to see that we have as of late a loser attitude. This whole notion of oh well we did really well, we played ok, should have got a point etc just does not cut it. We are just too nice and everyone I speak to can see after 10 minutes which Brentford has turned up. Truly succesfull teams when they lose they make no excuses, and they come up with a solution quickly to fix it. Back in the league 1 2 days we'd have a bad game and say yeah you know what we were crap, and I would much rather that when we lose it's not the same tiresome 1-0 we've been found out by everybody but never mind chaps we played well. A thicko like me whos only ever played oval ball sports and watched round ball can see it so why cant those in charge?!

I know I'l get slated for this but I really don't care. Frank is just too Mr Nice guy, and his statistics and Einstein analysis dont cut it when the bleeding obvious is staring us in the face. This constant when we lose going on about how unlucky we were is the wrong attitude. It is reflected in games where we get bullied and dont appeal enough etc etc. What happened at the end of last season does not give us this devine right to go up this season. I would even go as far to say blowing it the way we did is unforgiveable and Frank needs to go. Who cares if we came third wheres the trophy we had 3 games to reach the promised land. Yeah it's a sore spot and I tried to put it behind me before todays game, but lo and behold same old same old and I'm fuming.

We can carry on being nice nice Brentford with nobody really having a bad word about us ending up with a top half finish, or roll our sleeves up and get somebody in with a winning mentality that changes our mindset. The only thing that matters is the result end of. I just dont think Frank has it in him to do it at all costs
 

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A loss was harsh but we weren’t up to standard today

we grew into the game and should have got at least a point but we’ve changed the front three but not changed the tactics

Toney wasn’t great at all but plays a different style to Ollie and we need to get players closer to him

one of those 1-0 defeats that we are so vulnerable to -and we didn’t have Saids box of tricks to unlock them. Yes he is inconsistent but he is going to take some replacing
 

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Same old same old...a team who can only beat us at a set piece and then sits behind the ball and defends for 45 mins....and yet for the fkin 47th time we can’t do anything about it....TF for me really needs to work on a way to sort this problem out as it’s getting fkin boring....sort it fkin out....please.....5 Losses out of 6 Isn’t looking good imho
 

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Bryan should have got one of his chances on target. We also hit the post twice and the crossbar once. Dean should have seen yellow for the chop tackle attempt on Canos before his assault on Norgaard. Two penalty shouts turned down, one was stonewall with the awful Ref looking straight at it and awarding handball against us. We can and will improve. At least a couple more signings on the way, Toney will be scoring for fun when match fit. Onwards and upwards! COYBs!
At least two more signings, seriously where is this from ??
Great if it happens, I’d have thought just one. Unless we’re going to push a couple of the current squad out either on loan or sold.
 

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I dont post that often on here so I'm not going to pretend to be some footballing tactical expert saying how we should play 4-4-2 or 4-3-3 with a holding midfielder or so and so at left back right back etc, because thats for the forum experts. Ive been watching us for over 20 years and have been to nearly every sinkhole in the north watching us. I love this club, but today was the first day much to my mrs joy (so she thought) that I said I dont want to watch us on the telly because Ive been getting too upset recently. What did I do? Watched it.... ruined another day.

I have grown up watching 2 teams. Brentford and the All Blacks (because my dad is a sheep befriender from those parts). It is painfully obvious to see that we have as of late a loser attitude. This whole notion of oh well we did really well, we played ok, should have got a point etc just does not cut it. We are just too nice and everyone I speak to can see after 10 minutes which Brentford has turned up. Truly succesfull teams when they lose they make no excuses, and they come up with a solution quickly to fix it. Back in the league 1 2 days we'd have a bad game and say yeah you know what we were crap, and I would much rather that when we lose it's not the same tiresome 1-0 we've been found out by everybody but never mind chaps we played well. A thicko like me whos only ever played oval ball sports and watched round ball can see it so why cant those in charge?!

I know I'l get slated for this but I really don't care. Frank is just too Mr Nice guy, and his statistics and Einstein analysis dont cut it when the bleeding obvious is staring us in the face. This constant when we lose going on about how unlucky we were is the wrong attitude. It is reflected in games where we get bullied and dont appeal enough etc etc. What happened at the end of last season does not give us this devine right to go up this season. I would even go as far to say blowing it the way we did is unforgiveable and Frank needs to go. Who cares if we came third wheres the trophy we had 3 games to reach the promised land. Yeah it's a sore spot and I tried to put it behind me before todays game, but lo and behold same old same old and I'm fuming.

We can carry on being nice nice Brentford with nobody really having a bad word about us ending up with a top half finish, or roll our sleeves up and get somebody in with a winning mentality that changes our mindset. The only thing that matters is the result end of. I just dont think Frank has it in him to do it at all costs
I agree with elements of this. They had a teenage goalkeeper and we didn’t work him, bully him or really cause him any problems at all

We got bullied in midfield in the first half but then started to outplay them and drew the fouls that kept them honest

but we should be beating Brum and we didn’t
 

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We were poor.

I dont understand why we've resulted to hitting these long cross field balls that just don't work. The squad needs 2-3 new players.
 

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