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My first away game of the season and thankful for my mates in the Midlands I was in the luxury of a box. Weather conditions was truly awful.

As for the game a really good point. We started slowly and the first 15 minutes it all was Brum. They scored after hitting the post in the first 5 mins and I thought it was going to be a long afternoon. Then from our first corner we scored. Great to see us scoring from another set piece.

Thereafter I didn’t want the half to end as we finished it strongly. Great ball by Marcondes and their keeper made a good save from Watkins. Second half it was pretty evening and thought they may have had a penalty but we had a couple of good opportunities. A draw was the fair result.

Pinnock my MoM and my player of the year. Baptiste slotted in well and didn’t look out of place in the Championship and Fosu offered something different from the bench we didn’t previously have. Both will be great signings.

I said after the Hull game if we can get 5 points from our next 3 it would be a good return. We all would love to play well each game and win but the last two games are well earned points. These are the points we may well look back on come end of the season. 4 points is nothing to claw back with 13 games to go.


Big game next week - and if we can win will put pressure on other teams later in the day.

Staying in Brum tonight and heading for some drinks and a curry. Safe travels back to the those heading home.
 

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....really proud of our lads today....battled for everything.....we were stronger than them....not often the word Camp determines a game of football...he saved them today....'she fell over' was the funniest thing I've seen at a game of football for a long time....what a plank.
 

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....really proud of our lads today....battled for everything.....we were stronger than them....not often the word Camp determines a game of football...he saved them today....'she fell over' was the funniest thing I've seen at a game of football for a long time....what a plank.
Why was he ejected so violently? He was giving it the big ‘un way more than he should, but did he do anything obviously wrong? Or was he essentially just drunk and disorderly?
 

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My first away game of the season and thankful for my mates in the Midlands I was in the luxury of a box. Weather conditions was truly awful.

As for the game a really good point. We started slowly and the first 15 minutes it all was Brum. They scored after hitting the post in the first 5 mins and I thought it was going to be a long afternoon. Then from our first corner we scored. Great to see us scoring from another set piece.

Thereafter I didn’t want the half to end as we finished it strongly. Great ball by Marcondes and their keeper made a good save from Watkins. Second half it was pretty evening and thought they may have had a penalty but we had a couple of good opportunities. A draw was the fair result.

Pinnock my MoM and my player of the year. Baptiste slotted in well and didn’t look out of place in the Championship and Fosu offered something different from the bench we didn’t previously have. Both will be great signings.

I said after the Hull game if we can get 5 points from our next 3 it would be a good return. We all would love to play well each game and win but the last two games are well earned points. These are the points we may well look back on come end of the season. 4 points is nothing to claw back with 13 games to go.


Big game next week - and if we can win will put pressure on other teams later in the day.

Staying in Brum tonight and heading for some drinks and a curry. Safe travels back to the those heading home.
Thankyou for a sense of the game. Have a fun evening
 

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Why was he ejected so violently? He was giving it the big ‘un way more than he should, but did he do anything obviously wrong? Or was he essentially just drunk and disorderly?
...just a daft boy in a retro green trackie top looking to make a name for himself....Brum OB needed some easy meat...#gameover.
 

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Well done all. Interested in mom and how the newer lads did
Baptiste looks a class act, major up grade on Kamo. Energy, skill, puts his foot in.

Needs a f ew games to settle in but could be a major acquisition.
 

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Thanks for the positivity on here tonight. Was feeling a bit ambivalent about a point today, but the ‘virtual’ kick up the ar5e being dished out to those in the 2 points dropped camp has made me reevaluate the result - and, it is on reflection, a good point earned. Sadly, I can’t be there for next weekend’s game, so someone else is going to have to take my place at GP. Last time I missed a home game we won – so same again please lads!
 

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That was my 8th visit to St Andrews, and it's the first time I've not seen Birmingham win! Would have taken a point before the game, so more than happy with a point given the conditions. Can't wait for next week, early KO get the points on the board, and put the pressure on the rest of them.
 

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Caught about 60 minutes of the match on a stream so missed both goals but for most of that time we were by far the better side. (apparently Birmingham had been all over us first 15 but there wasn't much evidence of that by this point). Conditions (and pitch) looked awful? Sure those who were there will confirm but it looked really difficult to control the ball or move it quickly. Birmingham looked to go long at every opportunity and we seemed to fall into the trap of doing the same but the few times we kept the ball up front and passed it we got behind them with ease. First half Marcondes was wide right with Benhrama and Baptiste seemingly swapping and Yearwood up and down the pitch. He got himself into some great positions at times but also out of position defensively and picked up a booking after getting caught up the pitch which prob led to his substitution in the second half (he always looked likely to mistime another one but had been pretty industrious and showed some good touches). Marcondes was playing well and worked well with Watkins to give him prob the best chance of the half which Camp did well to save. Benhrama was struggling a little as was Ollie but we looked pretty solid at the back with both Jeanvier and Pinnock solid and passing neatly out from the back at times.

Second half and weather seemed to worsen. We didn't start that well but then Birmingham seemed to run out of steam especially once Hogan got injured and went off. The substitution of Yearwood for Fosu saw Marcondes going central and Fosu wide and suddenly we looked more like Brentford, passing quickly and creating. Fosu looked very direct and skillful and was unlucky not to score. Marcondes went really close with a fantastic first time shot which Camp did v well to save. Pinball in the box and Fosu hit the post from close in. Was too busy celebrating the goal to react to the ball coming straight back at him and really should have put it in.. Baptiste had been fairly anonymous first half but really came into his own second half especially once paired with Marcondes with Fosu wide. Really looked the part with a bit of space, dictating the play. Looks like a player!! Norgaard was v lucky with a dreadful challenge late on which earned him a yellow and gave Birmingham a boost but the best they really had was a long throw in and a fairly lame shout for hand ball when the ball bounced onto Pinnock's arm.

Would normally say 2 points dropped but given the changes we had to make and the weather and Birmingham's form I think it's a really good point. Was very worried we'd lose this as it was clear a lot of players were tired. Benhrama wasn't his usual self and the gamble to start with Jensen backfired when he limped off early on, JDS having retired from the bench even before the game started. Major positives from this though was that we CAN rely on the squad to slot in. Marcondes, Baptiste and Fosu all did extremely well and will certainly give Frank something to think about next week and the next time we play three in a week. Yes, Leeds won but we've kept up our 2 points a game average in Feb and we've shown we can rotate and not be too affected. Much happier with this performance than the midweek submission to Leeds. Bring on the Blackburn!
 

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I asked my Birmingham friend if it was a fair result :

“I'd say so, we came flying out the traps in the first 15 but then allowed you back in too easily after scoring. Second half waned because of the conditions, we should have had a pen but you had couple of good chances during a strong spell. Bellingham ran the show for us until he tired and number 17 looked excellent for you. Was an enjoyable game.”
 

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I asked my Birmingham friend if it was a fair result :

“I'd say so, we came flying out the traps in the first 15 but then allowed you back in too easily after scoring. Second half waned because of the conditions, we should have had a pen but you had couple of good chances during a strong spell. Bellingham ran the show for us until he tired and number 17 looked excellent for you. Was an enjoyable game.”
Bellingham is absolutely amazing for a 16 year old. Playing men's football at that age should be a hard, hard challenge - let alone playing in the Championship. What a star. SIGN HIM UP!!!!!
 

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I asked my Birmingham friend if it was a fair result :

“I'd say so, we came flying out the traps in the first 15 but then allowed you back in too easily after scoring. Second half waned because of the conditions, we should have had a pen but you had couple of good chances during a strong spell. Bellingham ran the show for us until he tired and number 17 looked excellent for you. Was an enjoyable game.”
who's that no. 17??? :scratch:
 
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These are the sort of games we’d historically lose. We’ve never been great at grinding results out and I feel we have done well to get 5 points out of the last 3 games. Again I didn’t think we were at our best today but we will improve. Very encouraged by Baptiste and (hopefully) the big man will be back soon. Great day out and thoroughly enjoyed the Old Crown. Onwards and upwards..
 

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These are the sort of games we’d historically lose. We’ve never been great at grinding results out and I feel we have done well to get 5 points out of the last 3 games. Again I didn’t think we were at our best today but we will improve. Very encouraged by Baptiste and (hopefully) the big man will be back soon. Great day out and thoroughly enjoyed the Old Crown. Onwards and upwards..
....the old crown was a gem mate...thanks for the heads up on that on the GPG.
 

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Funny match because Birmingham had tailwind on both halves.

I was, again, wondering what Nørgaard was doing in the 1st half because his "tackling" was totally off at first. Birmingham goal was preceded by one of those "tackles". Fortunately he showed his character when making the tackle right after halfway line on the 84th minute stopping potentially dangerous Birmingham counter. His sixth yellow card of the season but really clever thing to do in that situation.

Really liked how Baptiste played on the 2nd half, especially after Fosu came in. Marcondes was ok, some great passing. Played quite deep which was wise as Bellingham really was a threat especially in the first half.

Raya almost blundered couple of times, especially the header from Colin was like Pedersen's goal on our first match of the season all over again.

One point is ok, hopefully next two matches give us full six. Interesting to see who are playing next week...
 

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Watched on ifollow with a mate who is a Brum season ticket holder in Philippines. After seeing the team and especially the first 10 minutes would have gladly taken a point. Considering conditions it was a decent game and we were the team who looked like winning the most at the end. Great to see the Oxford lads getting game time and doing well. Raya been looking shakey a bit lately but cant blame him too much yesterday with the win. All in all a fair enough result and a good point against a team who have got their s*** together. Nice to see Hogan playing well and hope he is OK. Oh and Bellingham is going to be some player (hes not bad already).
 

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We’ve added another dimension to our game and instead of passing from back to top, yesterday and in particular in the 1st half, we tried the high ball over the top to Watkins. Sometimes it worked, sometimes not so. Whether that was because of the conditions and blustery wind, not sure, but we bypassed the midfield. Saw it to an extent against Leeds too.
Not a one trick pony anymore and trying something different.
How we never scored that chance in the 2nd half ? We grew into the game and got better and better.
To start with I thought Henrik had to much to deal with on his own. Marcondes not covering well enough down that flank ?
They had nothing about them when Hogan went off.
New players did great considering ... everyone did great, considering the conditions
Got a lovely poster off the wall too. Try and share a picture of it later.
Have had a horrendous week for one reason or another, yesterdays game was good and we definitely deserved the point.
 

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We sat high up almost directly behind the goal, which gave a good viewpoint to see the play and tactics.

Once we got a bit of control of the game, after about 30 minutes, we seemed to be playing a back 3, where Jeanvier signalled to Henry to go forward as a wing back, while Dalsgaard stayed back, presumably to face up to Bellingham rather than try to chase him, with Nørgaard covering. This allowed us to play 3 in midfield in front of Christian, which, certainly by the second half, pushed us further forward. Baptiste became freer and started to look much more creative as we morphed between our 4-3-3 and a sort-of 3-1-3-3. Once we reshaped with Fosu-Henry coming on to allow Shandon and Marcondes to play as the "2 tens" again, we pushed Brum deep and created a lot of opportunities. That ability to make the in-game tactical changes, especially with the number of rookie players, I thought was quite impressive.
 

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From the highlights it certainly looked like we created enough chances to win, and I loved how pissed off Henrik was not to have got the three points.

We're bang in the mix at the business end of the season with the best team I've ever known us have. Happy days.
 

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We sat high up almost directly behind the goal, which gave a good viewpoint to see the play and tactics.

Once we got a bit of control of the game, after about 30 minutes, we seemed to be playing a back 3, where Jeanvier signalled to Henry to go forward as a wing back, while Dalsgaard stayed back, presumably to face up to Bellingham rather than try to chase him, with Nørgaard covering. This allowed us to play 3 in midfield in front of Christian, which, certainly by the second half, pushed us further forward. Baptiste became freer and started to look much more creative as we morphed between our 4-3-3 and a sort-of 3-1-3-3. Once we reshaped with Fosu-Henry coming on to allow Shandon and Marcondes to play as the "2 tens" again, we pushed Brum deep and created a lot of opportunities. That ability to make the in-game tactical changes, especially with the number of rookie players, I thought was quite impressive.
Yep, been doing this for a while now. Very noticeable in the Hull game.
 
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Well that was one of the worst journeys home after an away game I can remember and so glad we didn't lose to compound my misery!

We were battered for the first 15 minutes as both Bela and Bellingham tore us a new one and I feared a thrashing but once we equalised there was only one team in it.

Impressed with Baptiste but didn't see much of the previous promise from Yearwood from the Cup games - he seemed to not know his position or role and was a frequent bystander as the game went on around him.

Norgaard was excellent and broke up their play and the pace of Rico when covering was frightening - talk about quick. Marcondes was good and our defence strong against Jutkiewicz.

My only disappointment was Benrahma. I really have had enough of the tricks and flicks now. There was a point in the second half when he just needed to release the ball through to Ollie or sideways to Rico and decided to nutmeg Colin. Colin saw it coming, closed his legs and that was that - move over and possession back to Brum. TF speaks of his frustration with Said at times and he maybe needs to be on the bench for a game to get the message across that we're not a one man team and he's not Ronaldo.

All in all a good point against another form team but tinged with regret at Fosu hitting the post and us not gaining points on those above and around us.
 

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If only, if only... but bearing in mind that it was horrible weather just to be outdoors in, let alone try to play football, it was a decent point. Started really slowly, and as they did the opposite it caused us problems; but we always seem to have that ability to get a goal, and I knew it was in as soon as I saw Pinnock waiting for it. I'm really not that keen to see us playing so many long balls, especially as we're no good at it, but eventually we came to life and started playing the Brentford way, and were unlucky not to get the points. They certainly did nothing second half. Rico and Ethan were fantastic, again, and I thought Baptiste did really well. Ollie worked really hard but Said still looks a bit out of sorts - he and Ollie were having a right old 'discussion' early on when Said took a shot instead of passing.

When you look at the respective run-ins, we're still right in there.
 

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If only, if only... but bearing in mind that it was horrible weather just to be outdoors in, let alone try to play football, it was a decent point.
That's a great point. The wind and rain were really starting to get going as we walked into the ground at 230 and the walk back to the station was really difficult! Inbetween we didn't feel it much at all which suggests we were pretty well sheltered in that away end
 

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Gutted as we deserved the win.
 

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We are now +5 points over our first half season. Even if we merely match our first half season results for the remainder of the season we’re well on target for top 6 (eg including doing things like losing at home to Charlton and Blackburn). If we keep on improving on our first result in the return fixtures at a similar rate we’re in with a good shout of top 2.
 

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Even when we went 1-0 down I wasn’t worried , just had that feeling we wouldn’t lose . I think we just about deserved the win but it was a good battling point , we looked strong in the tackle , Norgaard took one for the team in the second half which showed our grit and determination.

2 new lads look good , more gems .

Is it me or is Birmingham just becoming more of a sh*thole every year ?

Went to go into a boozer called The Roost but thought better of it 😁 , Some bloke was having a pee on the green behind the pub , when finished proceeded to put his hands on the grass to kind of wash them , Classy !!!
 

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It was a game we would have lost last season no question.

Forced into changes due to injuries, third game in a week, awful conditions and away to a side unbeaten in their previous nine matches. I’m not really surprised we struggled in the first 15-20 minutes.

We are made of sterner stuff now though, and stayed in the game rather than crumble and concede two or three.

Equaliser showed the importance of being a threat from set-pieces as we hadn’t really been able to get our usual free-flowing game going at that stage. Great ball from Emiliano and header from Pinnock - our two best players in the match I thought.

Once we scored we settled and if I’m being greedy I think we should possibly have won the game after that, we got in behind them numerous times and probably should have shown a bit more cutting edge.

The conditions made it a bit end-to-end at times but their opportunities all seemed to stem from long throws and set pieces - comfortable for Jeanvier and Pinnock. We actually worked openings but our finishing wasn’t quite there.

Some comments on individual performances:

Pinnock - superb - probably first name on the team-sheet at the moment which is crazy given he wasn’t a starter until fairly late on.

Baptiste - took a while to settle but once he got into the groove he looked very comfortable. A Ryan Woods type who might not get too many goals and assists, nor be winning lots of 50/50s in front of the defence, but knits play, dictates the pace and covers a lot of ground to give teammates an option.

Marcondes - shone above Benrahma as an attacking threat, played really well.
 

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Caught about 60 minutes of the match on a stream so missed both goals but for most of that time we were by far the better side. (apparently Birmingham had been all over us first 15 but there wasn't much evidence of that by this point). Conditions (and pitch) looked awful? Sure those who were there will confirm but it looked really difficult to control the ball or move it quickly. Birmingham looked to go long at every opportunity and we seemed to fall into the trap of doing the same but the few times we kept the ball up front and passed it we got behind them with ease. First half Marcondes was wide right with Benhrama and Baptiste seemingly swapping and Yearwood up and down the pitch. He got himself into some great positions at times but also out of position defensively and picked up a booking after getting caught up the pitch which prob led to his substitution in the second half (he always looked likely to mistime another one but had been pretty industrious and showed some good touches). Marcondes was playing well and worked well with Watkins to give him prob the best chance of the half which Camp did well to save. Benhrama was struggling a little as was Ollie but we looked pretty solid at the back with both Jeanvier and Pinnock solid and passing neatly out from the back at times.

Second half and weather seemed to worsen. We didn't start that well but then Birmingham seemed to run out of steam especially once Hogan got injured and went off. The substitution of Yearwood for Fosu saw Marcondes going central and Fosu wide and suddenly we looked more like Brentford, passing quickly and creating. Fosu looked very direct and skillful and was unlucky not to score. Marcondes went really close with a fantastic first time shot which Camp did v well to save. Pinball in the box and Fosu hit the post from close in. Was too busy celebrating the goal to react to the ball coming straight back at him and really should have put it in.. Baptiste had been fairly anonymous first half but really came into his own second half especially once paired with Marcondes with Fosu wide. Really looked the part with a bit of space, dictating the play. Looks like a player!! Norgaard was v lucky with a dreadful challenge late on which earned him a yellow and gave Birmingham a boost but the best they really had was a long throw in and a fairly lame shout for hand ball when the ball bounced onto Pinnock's arm.

Would normally say 2 points dropped but given the changes we had to make and the weather and Birmingham's form I think it's a really good point. Was very worried we'd lose this as it was clear a lot of players were tired. Benhrama wasn't his usual self and the gamble to start with Jensen backfired when he limped off early on, JDS having retired from the bench even before the game started. Major positives from this though was that we CAN rely on the squad to slot in. Marcondes, Baptiste and Fosu all did extremely well and will certainly give Frank something to think about next week and the next time we play three in a week. Yes, Leeds won but we've kept up our 2 points a game average in Feb and we've shown we can rotate and not be too affected. Much happier with this performance than the midweek submission to Leeds. Bring on the Blackburn!
Great report considering you weren't there. Thank you
 

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Great report considering you weren't there. Thank you
....Cynical couldnt make the game...but was on videolink to our dressing room at half time a la Klopp....TF later thanked him for his contribution.....great pep talk apparently which obviously had an impact given our second half showing.
 

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Went to go into a boozer called The Roost but thought better of it �� , Some bloke was having a pee on the green behind the pub , when finished proceeded to put his hands on the grass to kind of wash them , Classy !!!
Ah, sounds like you stumbled into their VIP area.
 

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Is it me or is Birmingham just becoming more of a sh*thole every year ?
Small Heath is a dump no doubt but there are lots of decent areas - Moseley, Kings Heath, Kings Norton, Edgbaston, Bourneville and Harborne are all vibrant and pleasant.
 

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watched on ifollow as was out of the country.. officially 'working' but managed to catch most of the game.. !
Cheeky! I was hoping to do that while in Turin a couple of weeks back but effin Hull don't do ifollow!
 

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I asked my Birmingham friend if it was a fair result :

“I'd say so, we came flying out the traps in the first 15 but then allowed you back in too easily after scoring. Second half waned because of the conditions, we should have had a pen but you had couple of good chances during a strong spell. Bellingham ran the show for us until he tired and number 17 looked excellent for you. Was an enjoyable game.”
we should have had a pen when Bellingham ? caught it and ran out of area with it !!
 

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