Bradford City Disaster - 11.5.1985 - RIP

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Yesterday 29 years ago, 56 people never came home from Bradford’s game against Lincoln City. Shame it doesn't get the same coverage as other tragedies... It's no less important..
 
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It does in W. Yorks as I have family up there.

I was very young but do remember it as my Dad was a Fireman.

On the same day he took my brother to a Spurs match at WHL which had a similar wooden stand. Not knowing what was going on a Valley Parade, he looked around, saw piles of rubbish under the stand and said to my brother "This place is a death trap, if it catches fire we will not make it out alive"

After the match they went back to the car and switched on the radio and heard what was happening at VP. None of us were ever allowed to go to a ground with a wooden stand from then on.

RIP to those who lost their lives.
 

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This picture shows the intensity of the fire.

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Truly horrific. RIP. didn't Brentford play there a couple of weeks before.
 

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It's remembered appropriately in Bradford.

They know what happened. They know why it happened. They know the aftermath was handled appropriately. They got "closure" to as good a point as is possible.

While I don't doubt the pain is still there for those who survived and those who lost loved ones there were no attempts to wrongly blame, smear or hide the truth.

They're also quite tolerant to a chant of "is there a fire drill" as long as you stop it on quick realisation.

There's an unedited eight minute film of the fire on YouTube. I saw it for the first time a few years ago. It's one of the most horrifying things I've ever seen. I've not put the link in because I think you should only actively seek it out if you are interested and prepared.
 

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I was stunned that day to see it all happening on the news, RIP
 

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There's an unedited eight minute film of the fire on YouTube. I saw it for the first time a few years ago. It's one of the most horrifying things I've ever seen. I've not put the link in because I think you should only actively seek it out if you are interested and prepared.

Coincidentally, I've just watched that video. It is utterly terrifying how quickly the fire engulfs the stand. Truly harrowing.
 

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Yesterday 29 years ago, 56 people never came home from Bradford’s game against Lincoln City. Shame it doesn't get the same coverage as other tragedies... It's no less important..

I would imagine (and hope and expect) that the thirtieth anniversary of the tragedy will be commemorated nationally.
 

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It's remembered appropriately in Bradford.

They know what happened. They know why it happened. They know the aftermath was handled appropriately. They got "closure" to as good a point as is possible.

While I don't doubt the pain is still there for those who survived and those who lost loved ones there were no attempts to wrongly blame, smear or hide the truth.

They're also quite tolerant to a chant of "is there a fire drill" as long as you stop it on quick realisation.

There's an unedited eight minute film of the fire on YouTube. I saw it for the first time a few years ago. It's one of the most horrifying things I've ever seen. I've not put the link in because I think you should only actively seek it out if you are interested and prepared.

Yes, I remember watching it on the TV at the time. Absolutely horrific scenes. Unimaginable.
RIP those 54 Bradford and 2 Lincoln fans.
 

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We had Hull City at home that day and will always remember going into the bar after the game and seeing the news and that stand ablaze.
Truly horrific and a terrible day for Bradford City and Lincoln City.

A few days later and we had Heysel and our jolly boys outings with BFC came to an end.
No more trains no more drinking only dry coaches to take us wherever. Was not the same.
 

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They use that film on training courses I have attended as an office fire warden - amazing that no one thought to ring the fire brigade when it started - those were the days of no mobile phones - the lesson learnt was if you see a fire raise the alarm - but that fire was so quick I doubt if it would have mattered - tragic day
 

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I watched that YouTube video a few weeks back. I'm pretty thick skinned but I felt sick watching it, the speed in which the fire spreads. The image of a man walking out of the stand in flames was horrific. One thing I hadn't realised until recently was the amazing job the police and stewards did to help save as many as they did.

I also believe the stand was due to be demolished the following week.
 

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I remember coming home from GP that day and my family saying they had heard it on the radio and thought it had said Brentford!! Awful afternoon.
 

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the braemer going up in flames in 1983 must have been similar? very lucky no one was in there at the time.

I think i asked on an old thread on here how surreal following football must have been in 1985 - the Bradford fire, Heysal, the ridiculous amount of fighting (was it 85 when a Brum fan died at a match against Leeds?) at games especially the Luton Millwall cup game - didnt get many responses but to me it just seems incredible how things had changed by the time i remember starting to go to GP in the early 90s.
 

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Yes, I remember watching it on the TV at the time. Absolutely horrific scenes. Unimaginable.
RIP those 54 Bradford and 2 Lincoln fans.

I don't think I knew that two if the fans that died were Lincoln supporters, not that it matters who they support.
 
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We had Hull City at home that day and will always remember going into the bar after the game and seeing the news and that stand ablaze.
Truly horrific and a terrible day for Bradford City and Lincoln City.

A few days later and we had Heysel and our jolly boys outings with BFC came to an end.
No more trains no more drinking only dry coaches to take us wherever. Was not the same.

We were at the Brentford game there a couple of weeks beforehand. Can't remember whether it was the Keith Cassells game when he scored and ran down the side stand with us in it, high fiving everyone.
 

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I watched that YouTube video a few weeks back. I'm pretty thick skinned but I felt sick watching it, the speed in which the fire spreads. The image of a man walking out of the stand in flames was horrific. One thing I hadn't realised until recently was the amazing job the police and stewards did to help save as many as they did.

I also believe the stand was due to be demolished the following week.
i agree the police were magnificent that day taking great risks and I think all should be remembered bradford heysal and hillsborough.
 

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Reading those names and seeing that several members of the same families died. Fathers and sons (and daughters) going to a football match and never coming home.

Should be remembered in the same way as Hillsborough.

RIP
 
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Coincidentally, I've just watched that video. It is utterly terrifying how quickly the fire engulfs the stand. Truly harrowing.

.............an awful view.........staggering how quickly it spreads...............
 

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Just terrifying. It does from a block of seats to half the stand in no time
 
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Seen this video numerous times over the years on training courses for work, sends shivers down the spine every time. RIP
 

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Reading those names and seeing that several members of the same families died. Fathers and sons (and daughters) going to a football match and never coming home.

Should be remembered in the same way as Hillsborough.

RIP

Just thinking that.

Very very sad.
 

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.............an awful view.........staggering how quickly it spreads...............

Awful watching the person on fire, and many people running to help them.
 

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To be fare to them they werent to know the serverity of the situation.

I sort of know what you mean but that was so terrible from about a min onwards, common sense would tell you that was not the time to act the fool. Maybe best then to just focus on some of the heroism on display.
 

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I sort of know what you mean but that was so terrible from about a min onwards, common sense would tell you that was not the time to act the fool. Maybe best then to just focus on some of the heroism on display.

I'm glad you took it how it was meant.

I think what the fans were saying is 'We are Bradford City and we'll survive this.'
 

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They use that film on training courses I have attended as an office fire warden - amazing that no one thought to ring the fire brigade when it started - those were the days of no mobile phones - the lesson learnt was if you see a fire raise the alarm - but that fire was so quick I doubt if it would have mattered - tragic day

I went on a training course that showed the film. The tutor said that no phoned the Fire Brigade as everyone thought it was someone else's responsibility to do so. The fire brigade were actually first alerted to the fire when someone turned on the TV to get the half time scores.
 

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I went on a training course that showed the film. The tutor said that no phoned the Fire Brigade as everyone thought it was someone else's responsibility to do so. The fire brigade were actually first alerted to the fire when someone turned on the TV to get the half time scores.

That is shocking.
 

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I went on a training course that showed the film. The tutor said that no phoned the Fire Brigade as everyone thought it was someone else's responsibility to do so. The fire brigade were actually first alerted to the fire when someone turned on the TV to get the half time scores.


According to Wikipedia that isn't the case:

Spectators initially felt their feet becoming warmer; one of them ran to the back of the stand for a fire extinguisher but found none. A police officer shouted to a colleague for an extinguisher. However, his call was misheard and instead the fire brigade were radioed.[10] The call was timed at 3:43 pm.[11] However, the fire escalated rapidly and flames became visible, and so police started to evacuate the stand. The blaze began to spread; the roof and wooden stands were soon on fire.
 

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According to Wikipedia that isn't the case:

Spectators initially felt their feet becoming warmer; one of them ran to the back of the stand for a fire extinguisher but found none. A police officer shouted to a colleague for an extinguisher. However, his call was misheard and instead the fire brigade were radioed.[10] The call was timed at 3:43 pm.[11] However, the fire escalated rapidly and flames became visible, and so police started to evacuate the stand. The blaze began to spread; the roof and wooden stands were soon on fire.

This may well be right, I'm only going by what the tutor said
 

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We were at the Brentford game there a couple of weeks beforehand. Can't remember whether it was the Keith Cassells game when he scored and ran down the side stand with us in it, high fiving everyone.

No mate it was the game that ended 5 4 or something silly like that, we had led 3 0 in the first half. We were sat in that stand and i remember talking to the 2 young girls serving refreshments, i think they both sadly died a few weeks later in this terrible tragedy.
 

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I'm glad you took it how it was meant.

I think what the fans were saying is 'We are Bradford City and we'll survive this.'

Also, and probably what I could relate to more, is that the stand was due to be demolished after the game so at that stage not knowing that human life was involved you didn't really care that your stand was burning down as you probably thought, 'oh well its gonna be knocked down anyway. What a laugh'.

Also sad to see how many pensioners died on the list, horrible images of them being too immobile to escape.
 

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We were at the Brentford game there a couple of weeks beforehand. Can't remember whether it was the Keith Cassells game when he scored and ran down the side stand with us in it, high fiving everyone.

That was the 1-0 win that was cough cough eventful afterwards.We were in their end so.........

83/84??
 

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Well done to the Derby fans for standing as one to applaud in the 56th Minute (ok it was a minute late as they had just scored )


As for the premier league (yes you guessed what they did today for a Football League Club :mad1::mad1:)
 

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Reading those names and seeing that several members of the same families died. Fathers and sons (and daughters) going to a football match and never coming home.

Should be remembered in the same way as Hillsborough.

RIP

I was thinking the same. Awful business and the speed the fire spread is shocking.
 

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As for the premier league (yes you guessed what they did today for a Football League Club :mad1::mad1:)

I'm going to defend the Premier League on this.

Bradford City have already held their own commemorative moment this season. 29 years is not an anniversary for wider official acknowledgement. "Spontaneous" acts at supporter level in grounds and on social media are one thing, but I think it's a bit much to suggest (and I've made a leap here) each football disaster should be commemorated with a minute of silence or applause each year.

Which ones do you exclude? Burnden, Munich, Ibrox, Bradford, Heysel, Hillsborough, Cairo? Even with five that's over 10% of games impacted each season in addition to Armistice Day and the inevitable deaths of great players from the past, great servants of the club and even fans who've passed away during the season.

I'm not advocating forgetting dreadful events from the past. But let's not inadvertently cheapen them by overdoing it. 25 I get. 30 I sort of get. 29? No.
 
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