Final Score Brentford 1 (Toney) Manchester United 3 Att 17,094

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Ladies and gentlemen......introducing Myles Peart-Harris:


behave, if he was any good he’d be in the squad by now
 

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Finally managed to bring myself to watch the highlights. You have to credit De Gea for reading Jensen's intentions in the one on one's but jeezus put your foot through it lad.

Fantastic awareness and running to get in those positions, (obviously a discussed a brilliantly worked tactic) and boy he put in a shift last night but ultimately so frustrating. If one or both those chances go in you're really looking at United possibly crumbling, the mental fragility was their for all to see in the first half.

Looking at the goals conceded no fault attached to Lössl for the first it was an outstanding bit of skill from Elanga. Norgaard just couldn't live with Fernandes run for the second leaving PJ exposed and it was almost a re-run for the third with a lack of pace and driving run from the excellent McTominay again exposing the Danish duo in the centre.

We can only take the positives from the performance -and their were many- but ultimately a failure to take very good chances is costing us time and time again at this level as the opposition invariably have the quality not to miss there opportunities.
 

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Interesting shots stats, total/on target:
Jensen 5/3
Toney 4/2
Pinnock 3/2
Janelt 3/1

interesting, Mbeumo 0/0. I think we needed to him in there and that may've made the difference.
The above made me do a comparison, last night the "on target" to "goals ratio" were Man Utd 3 from 5 - Leicester 2 from 4 - Spurs 3 from10 - the night before Brighton 1 from 2 - Chelsea 1 from 3 - ours last night was 1 from 8, In the Prem you need to take the chances when the opportunity arises or in a split second you could be a goal down & a mountain to climb. Admittedly DeGea saved a few but creating the chances is'nt the problem, confidence apart from Toney maybe is, but he's feeding on scraps.
 

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Lots of posters saying the first half was the best 45 in ages, I agree with them. Not much more you can do when you dont take your chances and the oppo do really
Agree
 

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Good noise coming from the West Stand tonight, but so quiet around my seat on North Stand halfway line! We saw from the Bournemouth and Arsenal games what a difference our crowd can make, so it's a shame more people aren't getting involved. But at least the relative silence was better than the reported East Stand "support".
I’m in N123 and sounded like a voice in the wilderness last night. Very few around me ever join in with vocal support. Frustrating.
 

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I’m in N123 and sounded like a voice in the wilderness last night. Very few around me ever join in with vocal support. Frustrating.
Ditto me in the East Stand :(

Must say I was impressed with the continuous chant from them right through the game.
Consequently heard very little from the West Stand.
 

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I've watched the highlights now.

1st goal - Mads Roerslev shouldn't have let Elanga get in front of him.
2nd goal - Might have been a bit harsh on Pontus, as it can be argued that Norgaard hadn't picked up Fernandes' burst forward, and lacked the pace to catch him up. However, had Pontus held his line and backed off 20 yards, it would have forced Ronaldo to either take the ball on his chest and then play forward (but Fernandes had the run on Norgaard) or Ronaldo would have travelled that 20 yards, in which case we had a chance to defend our goal, or Ronaldo would have chested the ball to Fernandes but Pontus would have been able to defend it. It's all about the decision-making at the time. In hindsight, Pontus should have held the line and reacted to what Ronaldo did. He stood no chance of winning the ball from Ronaldo's chest to Fernandes.
3rd goal - Had Pontus not committed, MBS would not have been dragged inside to cover Pontus, leaving Rashford the freedom to go forward. So Pontus was definitely at fault in this case.

It's frustrating, because two of Man U's goals were highly preventable. It's frustrating because we had played so well up to this point and we really could have won the game.
We do need to be more clinical in front of goal, but we have to tighten up our defence. I've said before that I really think Pontus has to cut out some of the positional mistakes that he makes. It's not such a problem that I wouldn't pick him, and I believe his leadership skills are important, but he must reduce the mistakes or he might start to become a liability.
 

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Ditto me in the East Stand :(

Must say I was impressed with the continuous chant from them right through the game.
Consequently heard very little from the West Stand.
TBF I was in the west and it was fairly loud, but from where I was I didn't think United were as loud/continuous as everyone is saying...
 

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Jensen should bury both chances but maybe he doesn't want to "put his foot through it" incase he blazes it over the bar and has 17000 calling for his head like he does if he takes one bad step. If Norgaard loses possession its "oh unlucky good idea", when Jensen loses possession its "booo he's awful get him off". After having that for the last few weeks/months I'd imagine his confidence is not where it once was. Support the players all the same and it might have more of a positive effect not only on the individual, but the team too. We were unreal first half and probably should've been 2/3-0 and I think the game would've been wrapped up. Punished for not taking our chances yet again
 

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I’m in N123 and sounded like a voice in the wilderness last night. Very few around me ever join in with vocal support. Frustrating.
Cant wait to get back to my ST seat on Saturday.
I was about 13 rows up from where I normally sit in W231, and apart from a couple around me, most just sat on their hands, not even joining in with Hey Jude.
 

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I actually wished Jensen had slipped it to Bryan for a tap in with that chance on the break in the first half (as Fernandes did for Greenwood). He could've tried to play Bryan back in for the chance in the second as well. But might have beens ain't gonna get us anywhere. Plenty of others should have done better with chances too. On to Saturday, and 3 points please. :sorted:
 

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After allowing some time to evaluate our performance, I have to say I’m very proud yet perhaps equally frustrated. Not because of the result. In the end, it is a game of taking chances after all.

But more because,it highlights what we can do. We can more than compete, we can maintain pressure for lengthier periods( as we’ve seen earlier in season). So it makes some of the performances against lowerplaced teams even more confusing. Its almost remarkable that this is the same team that played Southampton. And my only concern is that inconsistency may reappear in upcoming games in which we need to put points on the board.

Really proud of them yesterday, but please don’t rest on it. TF was right, at times we smashed them, so let’s smash Norwich and Burnley perhaps?
 

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Quality on the ball is still way off. Every pass is under hit, or over hit, or making the recipient stretch to the point of losing control, or it’s at their throat. The ball is never under control.

2nd goal was a prime example. Pinnock plays a simple ball to Bryan….but it’s lively and waist high with a defender breathing down his neck. What’s he supposed to do with that? The ball is turned over, they break and score.

We’ve been a good passing team the last few years but the step up in standard is finding lots of our better players struggling.
 

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Quality on the ball is still way off. Every pass is under hit, or over hit, or making the recipient stretch to the point of losing control, or it’s at their throat. The ball is never under control.

2nd goal was a prime example. Pinnock plays a simple ball to Bryan….but it’s lively and waist high with a defender breathing down his neck. What’s he supposed to do with that? The ball is turned over, they break and score.

We’ve been a good passing team the last few years but the step up in standard is finding lots of our better players struggling.
I think this is caused, in general, by the speed of thought required in the Premier League. Players need to make the decision and execute the action considerably faster, thus the ball is less under control and errors are made. It's going to be a learning experience for all our players and some may not get to the point where the rating of the game and the instinctive reaction come to them.

There's so many time when the 'default' play out from the back is 'keeper>Jansson>Ayer/Pinnock>Roerslev by which time there's the opposition LB and Midfielder on him, so the only option he has is to rewind and it goes all the way back. It's noticeable that experienced teams play the same action by missing out a player each time, so 'keeper>Ayer/Pinnock>Mbeumo, so the ball is moved quickly to an attacking position and the intermediate defenders can focus on defending a turnover.
 

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As a neutral must say the speech by the Brentford manager after the game was cringeworthy and lacked any class at all.
If as he said Brentford hammered United how come the score was 1-3?
And to call out United spending £72 million on Sancho and he's not playing (he was at a family funeral) is buffoonery of the highest class.
If the kind Jansen could finish he would have had a hat trick but last night we saw the difference in "class" and United finally got going and it was all over.
 

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As a neutral must say the speech by the Brentford manager after the game was cringeworthy and lacked any class at all.
If as he said Brentford hammered United how come the score was 1-3?
And to call out United spending £72 million on Sancho and he's not playing (he was at a family funeral) is buffoonery of the highest class.
If the kind Jansen could finish he would have had a hat trick but last night we saw the difference in "class" and United finally got going and it was all over.
f*** off
 

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Just reflecting on the game and watching the extended highlights - we really did play well in that first half. Probably our best half of football all season. I forgot about that chance for Norgaard. As for Jensen chances I would say they were good saves rather than bad misses. De Gea time and time again has saved United this and in other seasons.

The stark realities is that we are not taking our chances when presented at the moment. Rashford whom had such a poor game against Villa took his chance superbly.

One can’t fault the efforts of the lads last night. Will be another tough game on Saturday.
 

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So Brentford joined the other lower league teams who play their best game of the season (in effect theor cup final) the fans came to see United but still got walloped. Next game Brentford will be back to normal you see.
 

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As a neutral must say the speech by the Brentford manager after the game was cringeworthy and lacked any class at all.
If as he said Brentford hammered United how come the score was 1-3?
And to call out United spending £72 million on Sancho and he's not playing (he was at a family funeral) is buffoonery of the highest class.
If the kind Jansen could finish he would have had a hat trick but last night we saw the difference in "class" and United finally got going and it was all over.
Clear off - putting it nicely. Others will have their own take. .
 

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So Brentford joined the other lower league teams who play their best game of the season (in effect theor cup final) the fans came to see United but still got walloped. Next game Brentford will be back to normal you see.
Was going to try and give a constructive response unlike others but actually, the others have been succinct enough. Yes, f*** off back into your little hole you maggot
 

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So Brentford joined the other lower league teams who play their best game of the season (in effect theor cup final) the fans came to see United but still got walloped. Next game Brentford will be back to normal you see.
So who do you you support then? In effect their cup final!!! The fans came to see United!! Pollock!
 

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As a neutral must say the speech by the Brentford manager after the game was cringeworthy and lacked any class at all.
If as he said Brentford hammered United how come the score was 1-3?
And to call out United spending £72 million on Sancho and he's not playing (he was at a family funeral) is buffoonery of the highest class.
If the kind Jansen could finish he would have had a hat trick but last night we saw the difference in "class" and United finally got going and it was all over.
F***k off

Back to school tomorrow.
 

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Rashfords goal and jensens first chance were very similar, apart from the finish. Jensen needs to put his foot through it rather than trying to be cute, hes got the technique to strike the ball well, hopefully a lesson learnt
No Rashford chance was much harder as angle acute and he had a lot more to do, the strike was sublime and hit with incredible power, no keeper would have saved it, De Gea included
 

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As a neutral must say the speech by the Brentford manager after the game was cringeworthy and lacked any class at all.
Nope. You’re a Man Utd fan.

Now f*** off you muggy little ****.
 

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As a neutral must say the speech by the Brentford manager after the game was cringeworthy and lacked any class at all.
If as he said Brentford hammered United how come the score was 1-3?
And to call out United spending £72 million on Sancho and he's not playing (he was at a family funeral) is buffoonery of the highest class.
If the kind Jansen could finish he would have had a hat trick but last night we saw the difference in "class" and United finally got going and it was all over.
Sancho has done feck all since being at United 72m my arse. Stick to your armchair fecking clown
 

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charming, truth hurts yeah?
What’s it like supporting Manchester’s second rate team!
Why don’t you just accept that you’re living on past glories, and you’re going to have put up with being second best to City.

You’ll be suffering the Blues, in every sense of the word, for a long time!

There’s some charming truth to hurt for you!

Plus, how many times a season do you actually go to Old Trafford?
 
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