Brentford FC sign Paul Hayes from Charlton

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Welcome to the club Paul, good competition for places up front.

It was noted from other posts (GABS and maybe construed from Bill Benn) that this was a "smoke screen" and there would be another signing, is this correct or shall we just be happy with Pauls arrival and leave it at that

No smokescreen Uwe expects to sign another player this week.
 

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Its kew gardens wot won it for us :sorted:

Not sure of too many Royal Botanical Gardens Mrs Hayes couldve gone to in the Medway area of Kent.
 

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Welcome Paul. Really cannot wait for tomorrow night, let's hope this isn't the last piece of news to come today.
 

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Our blooming strikers

Welcome to Brentford, Paul !
It wont always be as fragrant as Kew Gardens, but we hope you, Clayton and Farid blossom into a fruitful striking force !:sorted:
 

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At last a forward who has proved himself in L1 that can be paired with one of our present two; quick young loan, now, please. Decent piece of business by the management team.
 

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I know absolutely nothing about this guy, but would you say he's comparable to say, Charlie McDonald or is he more of a Nicky Forster type or neither?!!!!!
 

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I think the 3 strikers all bring something a bit different, something good.

I have heard Hayes has pace - so him and Donaldson would scare a lot of players. Hayes it appears likes to be a target man who gets the ball and feeds the partner rather than be the regular scorer himself. And if Hayes is partnered with Donaldson then defenders would probably defend deeper. With El-Alagui too, who seems to be more a penalty box striker who likes to stick his head in, take a punt of the chance of a spill from the keeper/lapse from defence, thats 3 very different attacking options.

The way I see it - the combinations be like....

Hayes/El-Alagui - Hayes is target man to receive ball, and looks to probably have longer range shots such as edge of area etc and any spills to be picked up by Farid. Will occasionally, look to feed Farid too rather than shoot.
Hayes/Donaldson - both being quite similar upfront, but not a massive problem. With the two having great pace that will terrorise the defence, both can shoot from distance and worry the keeper, and Hayes could also feed Donaldson which in turn could boost his confidence somewhat.
Donaldson/El-Alagui - what I'm writing seems identical to Hayes/Farid situation with Donaldson playing slightly behind Farid, using his pace to burst through the defence and shoot on sight, with spills etc falling to Farid, or crossing to Farid to head home. Well, we don't have wingers after all doing the crossing instead ;)

With Forshaw/Forrester/Saunders playing behind a front two - we should have now a good attack. With defenders focusing on the above situations, It should leave Forshaw to shoot from distance (Was it Forshaw I saw shoot outside the box on FL show from our game on Saturday?), or Forrester to look to play the killer ball for probably Hayes/Donaldson partnership.. and Saunders likes to have a crack too, and can whip a ball in to Farids head.

All decent combinations.
 
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I think the 3 strikers all bring something a bit different, something good.

I have heard Hayes has pace - so him and Donaldson would scare a lot of players. Hayes it appears likes to be a target man who gets the ball and feeds the partner rather than be the regular scorer himself. And if Hayes is partnered with Donaldson then defenders would probably defend deeper. With El-Alagui too, who seems to be more a penalty box striker who likes to stick his head in, take a punt of the chance of a spill from the keeper/lapse from defence, thats 3 very different attacking options.

The way I see it - the combinations be like....

Hayes/El-Alagui - Hayes is target man to receive ball, and looks to probably have longer range shots such as edge of area etc and any spills to be picked up by Farid. Will occasionally, look to feed Farid too rather than shoot.
Hayes/Donaldson - both being quite similar upfront, but not a massive problem. With the two having great pace that will terrorise the defence, both can shoot from distance and worry the keeper, and Hayes could also feed Donaldson which in turn could boost his confidence somewhat.
Donaldson/El-Alagui - what I'm writing seems identical to Hayes/Farid situation with Donaldson playing slightly behind Farid, using his pace to burst through the defence and shoot on sight, with spills etc falling to Farid, or crossing to Farid to head home. Well, we don't have wingers after all doing the crossing instead ;)

With Forshaw/Forrester/Saunders playing behind a front two - we should have now a good attack. With defenders focusing on the above situations, It should leave Forshaw to shoot from distance (Was it Forshaw I saw shoot outside the box on FL show from our game on Saturday?), or Forrester to look to play the killer ball for probably Hayes/Donaldson partnership.. and Saunders likes to have a crack too, and can whip a ball in to Farids head.

All decent combinations.

very good analysis and yes it was Forshaw who shot from 20yards Saturday
 

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Sounds an interesting signing, seems more like a GA replacement to me and the kinda forward you need in this division.

See he's Martin Hayes' (much) younger brother..... which is sort of interesting as well.
 

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I think the 3 strikers all bring something a bit different, something good.

I have heard Hayes has pace - so him and Donaldson would scare a lot of players. Hayes it appears likes to be a target man who gets the ball and feeds the partner rather than be the regular scorer himself. And if Hayes is partnered with Donaldson then defenders would probably defend deeper. With El-Alagui too, who seems to be more a penalty box striker who likes to stick his head in, take a punt of the chance of a spill from the keeper/lapse from defence, thats 3 very different attacking options.

The way I see it - the combinations be like....

Hayes/El-Alagui - Hayes is target man to receive ball, and looks to probably have longer range shots such as edge of area etc and any spills to be picked up by Farid. Will occasionally, look to feed Farid too rather than shoot.
Hayes/Donaldson - both being quite similar upfront, but not a massive problem. With the two having great pace that will terrorise the defence, both can shoot from distance and worry the keeper, and Hayes could also feed Donaldson which in turn could boost his confidence somewhat.
Donaldson/El-Alagui - what I'm writing seems identical to Hayes/Farid situation with Donaldson playing slightly behind Farid, using his pace to burst through the defence and shoot on sight, with spills etc falling to Farid, or crossing to Farid to head home. Well, we don't have wingers after all doing the crossing instead ;)

With Forshaw/Forrester/Saunders playing behind a front two - we should have now a good attack. With defenders focusing on the above situations, It should leave Forshaw to shoot from distance (Was it Forshaw I saw shoot outside the box on FL show from our game on Saturday?), or Forrester to look to play the killer ball for probably Hayes/Donaldson partnership.. and Saunders likes to have a crack too, and can whip a ball in to Farids head.

All decent combinations.

According to several of my Charlton mates the one thing Hayes doesn't have is pace, and he's at his best when he's paired with someone who does. Hopefully he could complement Clayton nicely. As you say, we're looking to have soem decent combinations now...
 

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I know absolutely nothing about this guy, but would you say he's comparable to say, Charlie McDonald or is he more of a Nicky Forster type or neither?!!!!!

Neither. He's more of a link man - in his best season he made all the goals for Gary Hooper. The only small worry is that we still won't have someone to get on the end of the good work he (and Donaldson) can do.
 

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So does it sound like our two leading strikers (assuming all three are fit) are Hayes and El Alagui? With Donaldson coming off the bench?
Or....
Or....
 

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Having looked at his scoring record it doesn't make great reading. However when you look at assists as well, he makes or scores every other game on average. When Scunthorpe got promoted in 08/09 he scored 20 and assised 11, and the season after he scored (13) and assisted (10) 23 goals altogether and that was in the Championship! It's clear from his career his best seasons have been the last 4, and given that he is a player that doesn't rely on pace, I think his best days may still be to come. Seems like a great signing and a real coup, he is the type of player who should fit into Uwe's system perfectly.
 

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I hope not
Paul Hayes may take a game or three to be fully match fit but I fully expect him to be number one striker. If El Alagui can turn on the style, then it will be Donaldson warming the bench.
 

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would love it if we got a speedy youngster on loan to complete the set. Or maybe German will step up?
 

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Having looked at his scoring record it doesn't make great reading. However when you look at assists as well, he makes or scores every other game on average. When Scunthorpe got promoted in 08/09 he scored 20 and assised 11, and the season after he scored (13) and assisted (10) 23 goals altogether and that was in the Championship! It's clear from his career his best seasons have been the last 4, and given that he is a player that doesn't rely on pace, I think his best days may still be to come. Seems like a great signing and a real coup, he is the type of player who should fit into Uwe's system perfectly.

The Teddy Sherringham of the lower leagues!
 

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Described by Wycombe and Charlton fans as brave, technically good and dedicated. Sounds good to me
 

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You know I obviously listened to his interview, you know on the OS, obviously you know on the Bees Player obviously, you know he sounds like he obviously made the right decision you know for obviously himself and you know for his family obviously as well you know.
 

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From what has been said it appears to me that a Paul Hayes, in years gone by, would have been considered to be an inside forward.Someone who would make but also score a reasonable number of goals.
Comes over as being positive during his interview with Bees Player and hope it all goes well for him and our Club!
 

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Seems a lot hangs on Al Farid now. Is he going to be injured? Can he step up to this level?
Surely, if we signed another foward, Al Farid would take that as a snub, but I could see Uwe getting in a youngster on loan to play up front.
 

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Definitely a quality move by us. Well done Brentford Football Club, an addition who adds a certain quality to the side and gives us a more accomplished striker who we aren't usually used to.
 

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You know I obviously listened to his interview, you know on the OS, obviously you know on the Bees Player obviously, you know he sounds like he obviously made the right decision you know for obviously himself and you know for his family obviously as well you know.

obviously you know ;)
 

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I think the 3 strikers all bring something a bit different, something good.

I have heard Hayes has pace - so him and Donaldson would scare a lot of players. Hayes it appears likes to be a target man who gets the ball and feeds the partner rather than be the regular scorer himself. And if Hayes is partnered with Donaldson then defenders would probably defend deeper. With El-Alagui too, who seems to be more a penalty box striker who likes to stick his head in, take a punt of the chance of a spill from the keeper/lapse from defence, thats 3 very different attacking options.

The way I see it - the combinations be like....

Hayes/El-Alagui - Hayes is target man to receive ball, and looks to probably have longer range shots such as edge of area etc and any spills to be picked up by Farid. Will occasionally, look to feed Farid too rather than shoot.
Hayes/Donaldson - both being quite similar upfront, but not a massive problem. With the two having great pace that will terrorise the defence, both can shoot from distance and worry the keeper, and Hayes could also feed Donaldson which in turn could boost his confidence somewhat.
Donaldson/El-Alagui - what I'm writing seems identical to Hayes/Farid situation with Donaldson playing slightly behind Farid, using his pace to burst through the defence and shoot on sight, with spills etc falling to Farid, or crossing to Farid to head home. Well, we don't have wingers after all doing the crossing instead ;)

With Forshaw/Forrester/Saunders playing behind a front two - we should have now a good attack. With defenders focusing on the above situations, It should leave Forshaw to shoot from distance (Was it Forshaw I saw shoot outside the box on FL show from our game on Saturday?), or Forrester to look to play the killer ball for probably Hayes/Donaldson partnership.. and Saunders likes to have a crack too, and can whip a ball in to Farids head.

All decent combinations.


its all very well setting up chances for Donaldson ,but he misses most of them . We need a natural finisher ,Mr Harry Bunn sounds ideal imho
 

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we arent going to create much with a midfield of Kev, Douglas and Toumani thats for sure
 

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its all very well setting up chances for Donaldson ,but he misses most of them . We need a natural finisher ,Mr Harry Bunn sounds ideal imho
.Farid appears to be a finisher though mainly with his head .Plus he's unproven out of the Scottish Isles Crofters League

edit - just got Bees Player to work for the interview with Paul .Behind him is a very impressive performance by our new in ground pitch sprinklers .Worth the watch alone rather than the normal bland new player arrival interview
 
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