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He was asymptomatic so wouldn't have had any affects.
Is that right though? I know if you are asymptomatic you will not display symptoms but you can still spread the disease. You are not immune and so the disease could still have long term effects on things like the lungs?
 

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He was asymptomatic so wouldn't have had any affects.
Hmmm. Not my understanding of how the virus can still have effects even if there appear to be no symptoms. Energy level required at this level is huge and even a small reduction can affect performance. but l'm no doctor.
 

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Is that right though? I know if you are asymptomatic you will not display symptoms but you can still spread the disease. You are not immune and so the disease could still have long term effects on things like the lungs?
Asymptomatic means no symptoms, no symptoms = no affects of the disease long or short term. I think we are safe to assume he has no ongoing issues from covid.
 

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Hmmm. Not my understanding of how the virus can still have effects even if there appear to be no symptoms. Energy level required at this level is huge and even a small reduction can affect performance. but l'm no doctor.
Until they change the definition of asymptomatic.

"Knowing that a condition is asymptomatic is important because it is not required that a person undergo treatment and it does not cause later medical problems"
 

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There is also this though:

Scientists warn that asymptomatic people can have lasting effects. Researchers are beginning to study what happens to the body when it contracts Covid-19 but doesn’t develop any symptoms. In a recent research review published in the Annals of Internal Medicine, chest scans of asymptomatic people with Covid-19 have revealed the presence of some “lung abnormalities” — abnormalities that also turn up among symptomatic patients. That’s one example, and scientists are trying to understand if there are others.
 

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Could certainly have subtle effects undetectable during normal living, but still affecting an extreme level of performance, but far from guaranteed. These should show as a detectable decline in his level of fitness during training evaluation. There are also the potential psychological effects on attention and concentration eg which are not so easy to evaluate. There is also the potential of a false positive result (specificity of testing is not 100%, although well in the 90"s for specificity ie low chance of false positive, but possible). He is young, exceedingly fit, robust and well-motivated, so hopefully, no lasting ill effects if any.
Hmmm. Not my understanding of how the virus can still have effects even if there appear to be no symptoms. Energy level required at this level is huge and even a small reduction can affect performance. but l'm no doctor.
 

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He tested positive for coronavirus in one test of a continuous series – players are tested at least twice weekly. If he showed no symptoms that he had developed Covid-19, then he was asymptomatic. If he had developed Covid-19, then he would not have recovered from it within 5 days. The club may even have commissioned antibody tests to establish whether the positive test was correct.

Given that the club medical staff were happy for him to return to training in late June, the fitness and conditioning staff will have monitored him closely and that FFF were happy for him to be selected for the U-21 Squad last week, I think speculating about any effects of that single positive test are a bit pointless.
 

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He will have a big target on his back after today, time for some very good man management/arm around the shoulder to get him channelling his frustration in a more productive way.
 

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Thought he started the game really well then those misses obviously got to him and he needs to calm down. Was lucky not to get sent off.. Sure Frank will sit him down and have a word..
 

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Silly boy. If he gets a rep that he's easy to wind up , then the oppo will do just that.
 

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Gotta be his season this one. 😊
 

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Not living in the shadow of the other 2 players now.....You Reds...:)
 

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Not quite at 100% Mmmmmmbeumo yet ...... but getting there! :)
 

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One thing I've noticed, and I'm sure a few others have too....

You know when he is involved in the squad for a game when he posts a "matchday" picture.
If someone as simple as me can spot it, then surely others can work that out too...
 

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Nobody else seems to have picked this up, but if you look at the spell of heavy Preston pressure that undid us yesterday, Bryan made several really key errors in possession. From at least one of those, Preston scored when he took too long on the ball as we committed players to a counter and then found ourselves back-pedalling while Preston broke at our exposed defence.

Bryan is a great player with so much potential, but he can be incredibly naive and wasteful in possession at times and loses the ball in very frustrating areas. Yesterday was one of those times...
 

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Nobody else seems to have picked this up, but if you look at the spell of heavy Preston pressure that undid us yesterday, Bryan made several really key errors in possession. From at least one of those, Preston scored when he took too long on the ball as we committed players to a counter and then found ourselves back-pedalling while Preston broke at our exposed defence.

Bryan is a great player with so much potential, but he can be incredibly naive and wasteful in possession at times and loses the ball in very frustrating areas. Yesterday was one of those times...
It was noticed by me and it’s definitely not the first time. Overall he’s been poor since the return after lockdown despite some important goals and assists.

He doesn’t deserve abuse but it’s interesting to see which players Brentford fans choose to slate when the players have been equally as poor as each other.
 

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Feel he was one of the worst players on the pitch today. Yes he set up one of the goals, but other than that he made no contribution going forward, was wasteful with the ball, and a liability defensively. Was really top quality through most of last season, but hasn't been nearly the same player since the restart in June.
 

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Feel he was one of the worst players on the pitch today. Yes he set up one of the goals, but other than that he made no contribution going forward, was wasteful with the ball, and a liability defensively. Was really top quality through most of last season, but hasn't been nearly the same player since the restart in June.
But in the first half the ball was almost never passed out to him -- nobody could have made a contribution with that lack of service. Gradually he came more and more towards his own goal and that's when mistakes crept in. In the previous couple of games he was good. He's the least of our problems in my opinion. Injuries in the positions where we have the least good cover have exposed our deficiencies,
 

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Nobody else seems to have picked this up, but if you look at the spell of heavy Preston pressure that undid us yesterday, Bryan made several really key errors in possession. From at least one of those, Preston scored when he took too long on the ball as we committed players to a counter and then found ourselves back-pedalling while Preston broke at our exposed defence.

Bryan is a great player with so much potential, but he can be incredibly naive and wasteful in possession at times and loses the ball in very frustrating areas. Yesterday was one of those times...
Agree, I just said as much on the Sergi thread.
 

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Doesn't seem like anyone is really? Hangover from end of last season? Short pre-season/holiday? Whatever it is we need to snap out of it fast..
Yep, I was wondering whether it might be this, though with Bryan, he has not really been up-to-speed since the return after lockdown.
 

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An in form Bryan would have caused them real problems. A great assist, even if off form.
 

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Bryan Mbwembo according to that prat of a match analyst on SSN.
Am I correct in thinking it's "Em-bo-mo", with the emphasis on the middle syllable? I thought I heard someone say that when he signed.

Anyhow, I think Thomas may soon be thinking it's time he took him out of the team for a game or two (to get his mojo back), since the present strategy of letting him "play his way back into form" hasn't really worked just yet.

(No criticism of manager or player, btw)
 

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still looks like hes somewhere else.......needs to sort himself out and soon......defo has potential but needs to prove it in the next few games
 

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A good sign that he is still getting good stats, even though he hasn't hit the heights of last season, yet.

A couple of times today he broke but ended up losing the ball, whereas last season he may well of gone on to create something, could, of course put this down to good defending.
 

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Think he’s playing okay tbh. Wouldn’t think about dropping him at all.
Don't think anyone is talking of dropping him.
 

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He looks alright to me. I don't ever remember him being especially involved in general play, his skill is in and around the box. Never stops running, too.
 

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And once he starts playing well... ;)

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Thank you for illustrating what the rest of us are seeing (well some of us). This is an understated player. Where Saïd was flash, Bryan was his antithesis. Simple and undemonstrative. Less is sometimes more, as Marcus said earlier. Some of the best players don't look the best players! Etc.
 

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His running drags us up the pitch, he’s not quite getting the ball our from his feet at the moment but he’s done it before and he will do it again. I’m pleased we own him
 

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Don't think anyone is talking of dropping him.
Hand up l think we need to rest him. He has been delivering very average performances and we have options to put in as wide players.I get the stats but the eyes have it. I recall MacEachran fans using stats to big him up.l still feel he hasn't been the same since testing positive. Maybe a case of long covid?
 

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He had a stunning first season - never played that many league games in his life before in one season.
Adapting to a new life overseas. 16 goals wasn’t it ?
The final goal from a Brentford player at Griffin Park summed up everything about him, talented and explosive on his day.
Like Raya, the opposition look at our team sheet and if he’s not playing, would prefer it.
We are fortunate to have players that blow ‘hot and cold’ but fundamentally are so talented that the rest of the division would buy them tomorrow if they could.
 

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Hand up l think we need to rest him. He has been delivering very average performances and we have options to put in as wide players.I get the stats but the eyes have it. I recall MacEachran fans using stats to big him up.l still feel he hasn't been the same since testing positive. Maybe a case of long covid?
Even with his current dip in form I’d play him ahead of either Canos or Fosu, much more end product.. he’s young and prob finding it difficult with the pressure to repeat last season whilst his compatriots have all moved on.. not sure dropping him will send the right message. He just needs a bit of confidence I feel..
 
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He had a stunning first season - never played that many league games in his life before in one season.
Adapting to a new life overseas. 16 goals wasn’t it ?
The final goal from a Brentford player at Griffin Park summed up everything about him, talented and explosive on his day.
Like Raya, the opposition look at our team sheet and if he’s not playing, would prefer it.
We are fortunate to have players that blow ‘hot and cold’ but fundamentally are so talented that the rest of the division would buy them tomorrow if they could.
Leaving aside fatigue and the effects of COVID he’s still so young. Correct me if I’m wrong but aren’t there B team players older then him?
 

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He will come good again. Even not playing well, he is still involved in setting up goals like yesterday. Hopefully, he will help us to the PL, but if he doesn't, he'll be the next £20-£30m footballer we have.
PS - Insulting comparing him to McCeachran.
 

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Hand up l think we need to rest him. He has been delivering very average performances and we have options to put in as wide players.I get the stats but the eyes have it. I recall MacEachran fans using stats to big him up.l still feel he hasn't been the same since testing positive
Your point about what your eyes “see” is a good one. On one level, Bryan doesn’t “look” like the earth-shatteringly good player pre-CoVid, but his stats aren’t obscure “touches within 3 metres of the semi-circle” or such nonsense, but actual assists and goals. And if that’s what he’s producing when he’s not quite at his best, all the more kudos. Bryan or Sergi or Tariqe? Bryan all day long :owusu:
 

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Think should follow the stats here. Unseen work obviously. He's a superb player. Even superb players make mistakes.
 

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